Platinum Games Possibly Teasing Bayonetta 3

Platinum Games is possibly teasing Bayonetta 3, if some curious new videos are anything to go by.

Following the release of the original Bayonetta on PC (via Steam), the developer has been peeling back the development curtain on how the original game was made.

A couple developer diaries have been uploaded to the official Sega YouTube channel that delve into the game’s origins, however a quintet of videos uploaded to the Platinum Games YouTube have our attention.

All five videos come from this Japanese blog post by the developer, where the studio explains some of Bayonetta’s key English phrases, and what they could be interpreted as by way of an… “adult English lesson” for their Japanese fans.

Here are links to all five videos:

If you watch all five videos, you’ll notice that they have what could be a hidden message – they all loop three times. While this could have just been a mistake, why would it have happened on all five videos? Maybe we’re just desperately clinging to some possibility of the queen returning in her literally-explosive-heels?

Following the Bayonetta Steam release, Sega noted they have plans to “explore PC port options” with their other titles. That game’s release saw noticeably good sales, as Sega even said they were “extremely overwhelmed” by the support the title saw on PC. The publisher also put out a blatant tease for a PC release of Vanquish, yet another game from Platinum.

Could we be seeing a Bayonetta 3 reveal in the near future? It would only make sense, especially considering Platinum Games had one of their less risky endeavors (presumably as it was published+funded by Microsoft) cancelled, in the form of Scalebound.

A third Bayonetta game would not only sell lots of copies, it would do well on multiple platforms. It would be interesting to see the game be multi-platform, however, as Nintendo funded and published the second game, exclusively for the Wii U.

Would you like to see a new Bayonetta game, and on what platform(s)? Sound off in the comments below!



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  1. ThatGuyNamedTre
    April 24, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    Was a big fan of the first one, didn’t play the 2nd one because no Wii. If there’s a 3rd one, obviously I would want it on PS4 because I have one, but put it on every console possible.

  2. BioDevil_Dom
    April 24, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    Could it also be possible for them to be hinting at a potential Bayonetta 2 port to multiple platforms? I ask cause I think it would be possible especially if they took a similar approach to what Team Ninja did with Ninja Gaiden by releasing the Sigma versions for Black and 2.

  3. Brandon Orselli
    Brandon Orselli
    April 24, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    Very true. Those games were supposed to be ironclad exclusives and yet they got re-released with new content, which I always assumed made it “a new game” and therefore not the original game funded+published by Microsoft.

  4. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 24, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    Depends on who’s funding it. Considering Nintendo’s support for the series it may be a Nintendo Switch exclusive.

  5. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 24, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    Honestly, I don’t think so since Nintendo funded Bayonetta 2, hence why it wasn’t ported to other consoles. If I am correct, Nintendo partially owns at least a percentage of Bayonetta 2 due to this fact.

  6. mrwizeass
    April 24, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    Technically, Sega still owns the IP. Nintendo just published 2 so if anything, that one would be exclusive to Nintendo consoles. Unless, of course Sega can convince them to take a money hat to wrangle away distribution rights.

  7. mrwizeass
    April 24, 2017 at 9:56 pm

    Something tells me Kamiya’s block list just got 10 miles longer from everyone asking about Bayonetta 3.

    April 24, 2017 at 10:25 pm

    If that is case then breaking down and tears of Nintendo fans will be glorious to watch

    *ofc I refer to that one choco specifically*

  9. Madbrainbox
    April 24, 2017 at 10:37 pm

    SEGA saw there’s a demand for these games on PC so I doubt that will be the case.

  10. Wheelchair Operator
    Wheelchair Operator
    April 24, 2017 at 10:41 pm

    Nintendo did a bit more than “just publish” 2. What with the funding and co-developing the game to properly optimize it for their hardware and letting Platinum make outfits with a bunch of special effects just for the game. Platinum even commented on how much Nintendo helped them development-wise while talking about porting Bayonetta over to PC.

    That said, Nintendo’s often not TOO restrictive with this stuff, what with them doing the same for most of Rare’s titles on the N64 and that making it over to other systems anyway. The Nintendo content would have to go though.

    SEGA throwing money at Nintendo has absolutely nothing to do with that.

  11. Bitterbear
    April 24, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    It was worth watching the Negaf forum and by proxy the HD Twins fans spit out rivers of bile when Bayonetta 2 was announced for the Wii U. I’m hundreds of miles away from the USA and I could still feel the angry warmth when the members of the PC masta race threw a tantrum at every possible gaming forum that ever existed.

    Then Ubisoft announced that Beyond Good and Evil 2 was going to be a Switch exclusive. They avoided a Second Neckbeard Impact when they whispered away that it was just a timed exclusive.

  12. Mr0303
    April 24, 2017 at 11:05 pm

    It would make sense that they may have started work on Bayonetta 3 with all the buzz around that and now that they don’t have any other major projects to work on. I do think that it will be a Switch exclusive – Nintendo invested too much in the IP to let it go to other platforms.

  13. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 24, 2017 at 11:05 pm

    Nintendo did do a lot, but that doesn’t give them ownership in anyway of the franchise as a whole.

  14. AuraMaster DX (austin9568)
    AuraMaster DX (austin9568)
    April 24, 2017 at 11:17 pm

    And his block list grew three sizes that day

  15. Gabriel Vasconcellos
    Gabriel Vasconcellos
    April 24, 2017 at 11:18 pm

    I wish they could also release Resonance of Fate. Very underrated game, love it :D

  16. OldPalpy
    April 24, 2017 at 11:22 pm

    The only source I can find for that about regarding Beyond Good and Evil 2 is some blue haired let’s play girl, I can’t see Ubisoft doing this after Rayman Legends unless they’re looking for a repeat of that PR mess which would be disastrous for their attempt to relaunch BGE after this years of this sequel foundering in development hell.

  17. OldPalpy
    April 24, 2017 at 11:37 pm

    It does when people want straws to grasp, there being records of similar cases in the history of this industry doesn’t matter because their feeling say they have to win this one absolutely HAVE to because they have no other 3rd party AAA exclusives to cling onto and as we know feelings beat truth. They have to have something to act smugly about, talking about all the salt it’s causing when they aren’t spilling whiny port begging salt over the hundreds of PS4/Xbone/PC games that will continue to ignore the Switch.

  18. SuuLoliBoob
    April 25, 2017 at 12:38 am

    Bayo3 for the switch and only for it. I don’t even own one. I just want to see people get salty from it, just like how i loved people getting salty over bloodborn and Bayo2 when they were announced.

  19. Kyle Mac
    Kyle Mac
    April 25, 2017 at 1:10 am

    It’s just an article for the PC port of Bayonetta. This is fake news.

  20. SevTheBear
    April 25, 2017 at 1:51 am

    We are lucky to have the first Bayonetta (originally released in 2009) game on PC now. Nintendo helped B2 to be made and I bet you are right that B3 will be on Switch.

  21. LG
    April 25, 2017 at 1:53 am

    i would happily play Bayo 3 on PS4. Even if it meant getting bayo 1 and 2 as a means of getting it, BAM! Take my $60 please!

  22. BaronKrause
    April 25, 2017 at 2:56 am

    Dont think it would be the same. The Switch is pretty decent, would be a good reason to get one unlike the Wii U which was just a giant piece of shit that no one on earth actually wanted to buy if it wasn’t for a few decent titles stranded on it.

    April 25, 2017 at 3:57 am

    Nintendo contents should stay in Nintendo for all I care. I don’t grow up with Nintendo.

  24. Chris Evan Jonance Ingeniero
    Chris Evan Jonance Ingeniero
    April 25, 2017 at 4:31 am

    Ownership for the franchise? that would be a hard NO… but Ownership for Bayonetta 2? That would be a hard yes and they can do anything with it because they own Bayonetta 2

  25. catazxy
    April 25, 2017 at 4:48 am

    This pic reminds me of someone

  26. mrwizeass
    April 25, 2017 at 5:03 am

    “What with the funding and co-developing the game to properly”
    And that’s not publishing….how?

  27. DrearierSpider
    April 25, 2017 at 5:04 am

    The series has gotten a lot more popular and well recognized since the first game, and the sequel still managed to break 1 million sales despite being exclusive to one of the lowest selling major consoles of all time. Would only be smart of SEGA to keep that train rolling.

  28. OSad
    April 25, 2017 at 5:55 am

    I read that doujin.

  29. 2501
    April 25, 2017 at 6:30 am

    I feel like Nintendo is the only company that really gives a shit about the Bayonetta franchise. I mean they went all out in helping Platinum Games to make the sequel, they did insane marketing campaigns for Bayo 2 and featured Bayonetta in Smash.

    All Sega has done since Bayo 1 is fuck up Anarchy Reign’s release and drop a PC port. Somehow this makes people think they still care about Bayo.

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  31. Bitterbear
    April 25, 2017 at 9:13 am

    Well, it’s Ubisoft. PR Disaster is their shtick.

  32. Audrius Kliukas
    Audrius Kliukas
    April 25, 2017 at 9:51 am

    I really really hope Nintendo keeps their filthy hands off this one, if it’s happening. Bayonetta deserves better than to be put on Switch.

  33. Audrius Kliukas
    Audrius Kliukas
    April 25, 2017 at 9:54 am

    Would love to see Bayonetta 3 on all the platforms. Here’s hoping consumer support is enough to convince them to make it happen.

  34. TheHolypopeofgaming
    April 25, 2017 at 10:41 am

    maybe this time it’ll be on a console people actually own.

  35. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 11:00 am

    Yet Bayo 1 outsold Bayo 2 by nearly a million. Nintendo doing a lot for Bayo 2 doesn’t mean a thing if the game didn’t sell. If anything, it removes incentives from Nintendo to do the same kind of deal.

  36. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 11:03 am

    Nope. Sega still owns the IP as a whole. I don’t get who you can own 1 game out of a 2 game franchise when you don’t own the IP. I don’t think a lot people people saying Nintendo “Owns” Bayo 2 know how ownership works. No ownership rights were sold. If Sega were to make their own port, there’s nothing Nintendo could do. Nintendo for example couldn’t put Bayo 2 on the Switch without going through Sega.

    It was a deal for the Wii U, not a lifetime ownership deal.

  37. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 11:08 am

    Pretty much. People forget that the Capcom 5 and Operation Rainfall deals failed. Publishing=/= ownership. Otherwise Nintendo magically owns all the characters in Smash Bros because “they published it bruh.

  38. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 11:09 am

    Pretty sure it’ll be. Bayo 2 sold half as much as Bayo 1 due to it being a Wii U exclusive.

  39. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 11:11 am

    Good game but I would not say underrated. It is super repetitive and the story doesn’t start until 4 chapters in.

  40. Phish!
    April 25, 2017 at 11:12 am

    it also depends if Nintendo comes with a big sack of money to let it be exclusive, and with Bayo in Smash and with the love Nintendo sees for Bayo i can imagine they are willing to do just that, atleast timed exclusive, complete exlcusivity is difficult if sega themselves are funding Bayo 3

    April 25, 2017 at 11:39 am

    Nintendo was the company who saved Bayonetta from extinction. Fuck off.

  42. PixelBuff
    April 25, 2017 at 11:48 am

    Quit playing games with my heart.
    I don’t want to get hyped until there is an official announcement. Especially after their little PC port cocktease with 3 bullet shells in the teaser image.

  43. SuuLoliBoob
    April 25, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    But Bayo 1 was also on 2 platforms (Though, let it be that one Port sucked more then the other) unlike Bayo 2 which only was on 1.

  44. 2501
    April 25, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    It doesn’t matter that Bayo 2 didn’t sell as much as the first game, any Bayonetta fan will tell you that Bayonetta 2 is the most superior game of the two. If Nintendo are that salty about the sales then how come they went out of their way to put Bayonetta in Smash and even make an amiibo. It’s pretty obvious to me that they respect the character allot more than Sega did.

  45. InkViper
    April 25, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    So I’m going to take a punt, and suggest the reason why there are two video clips, one from Bayonetta 1 and Bayonetta 2, which repeat three times, is not just because they are teasing Bayonetta 3, but Bayonetta 1 and 2 will be making an appearance on switch first, before the third game is revealed.
    Now the reason why I say it’s going to be on the switch, is Nintendo seems to have a very good personal working relationship with Platinum, with over three games in the bag that were exclusively developed with them. So I think it’s reasonable to assume that if a third Bayonetta game is released it’s going to be funded and published by Nintendo!
    I also want to remind people that Platinum did approach Sony and Microsoft for Bayonetta 2 originally, and both of them rejected the project. And with the recent cancellation of Scale Bound, Platinum might just wish to work with a company that there more comfortable with.

  46. Magus KilIer
    Magus KilIer
    April 25, 2017 at 1:10 pm

    I was just thinking about that game the other day, i rented it and never completed it, and i haven’t seen it since, that’d be great

  47. Audrius Kliukas
    Audrius Kliukas
    April 25, 2017 at 1:17 pm

    There is not a single Nintendo game which was released for any other platform, or at least I’m not aware of any. Why would Bayonetta 3 be different?

  48. Ninjagai
    April 25, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    Just put everything on PC.

  49. perfectsword
    April 25, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    Actually, in the case of Bayonetta 2 the rights *were* sold to Nintendo. Sega had the option of publishing the second game but declined. Nintendo stepped in and Sega agreed to give all publishing and ownership of the second game exlusively to Nintendo. This is why 2 did not (and will not) appear on PC. For a possible third game however, all bets are off. Sega can once again decide to publish and make it multi-platform.

  50. perfectsword
    April 25, 2017 at 1:23 pm

    I wonder how big the 2nd game is? Bayo 1 is somewhere around 12 GB, can that fit on a Switch card? Only asking because I *want* this to happen. The idea of portable Bayonetta is enough to make me need a change of shorts.

  51. perfectsword
    April 25, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    Correct. Nintendo owns, exclusively, both publishing and distribution rights to Bayonetta 2. Kamiya himself confirmed it. When he’s asked if 2 will ever be ported, his response is to ask Nintendo, and also to ask them for Zelda on Playstation while they’re at it. Long story short, Bayo 2 ain’t happening anywhere outside a Nintendo platform without Ninty’s approval.

  52. Audrius Kliukas
    Audrius Kliukas
    April 25, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    Depends what you mean by “saved”. It’s on a platform which sold quite poorly and game itself didn’t sell that well either. A masterpiece which didn’t get the love it deserves because it’s Wii U exclusive. Gee, thanks for that save Nintendo. AFAIC, if it only exists on Wii U, it may very well not exist at all. Your mileage may vary though.

  53. perfectsword
    April 25, 2017 at 1:28 pm


  54. InkViper
    April 25, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    The highest capacity cards at the moment goes to 32 gig, which should be able to house both games.

  55. MusouTensei
    April 25, 2017 at 2:52 pm

    Would be a system seller for me.

  56. MusouTensei
    April 25, 2017 at 2:55 pm

    If that’s not the case I will be mad.

  57. InfectedAI
    April 25, 2017 at 2:56 pm

    Co-developing is a bit further than just publishing.

  58. InfectedAI
    April 25, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    The franchise no, but Bayonetta 2 specifically is very likely.

  59. InfectedAI
    April 25, 2017 at 3:02 pm

    You may not get it but it is indeed how things work. Someone can hold the rights to a specific game even if the developer owns the franchise overall. That’s why developers have had to do workarounds such as releasing an altered version under a different name and why some franchises have 1 or 2 games unavailable for sale digitally when the rest of the franchise is on Steam or GOG.

  60. InfectedAI
    April 25, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    Sega seems to be getting more friendly with PC development. They might realize that with the cheaper distribution and being able to take a bigger chunk of the profit that it’d be worth going after the PC market. After all why limit profit to be made from one platform when you can make a killing selling on every platform? I think if they can fund development themselves they will so they can release on multiple systems and maximize profit.

  61. InfectedAI
    April 25, 2017 at 3:09 pm

    That’s his point. More platforms, more sales.

  62. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 3:56 pm

    “If Nintendo are that salty about the sales then how come they went out of their way to put Bayonetta in Smash and even make an amiibo?”

    Dude… Bayo 2 came out 7 days before Smash Bros. Bayonetta was in Smash Bros before announcement of a new console 3 years later and before Bayo 2’s struggle sales. Nintendo never cared about the character. They just wanted to get the core gamers they chased away with the Wii back, and they picked a niche character to do it with. Bad move.

    Nintendo doesn’t have some love affair with the character like you seem to think it does. They were trying to make money, it was, like a lot of Nintendo’s exclusivity deals (and Xbox’s as well to be frank) a move that didn’t help much. No one was buying a Wii U just for Bayo 2.

    I’m sure respects the character more than Nintendo. We’re talking about this on a Bayo3 article for crying out loud, and it’d be monumentally stupid to have Bayo 3 be a Switch exclusive.

  63. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    That’s my point. Hell, if you take the PS3 sales alone that outsold Bayo 2.

  64. Phish!
    April 25, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    Bayonetta is not a Nintendo IP, but Sega’s, Sega can do with it whatever they want

  65. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    Because Sega owns the franchise and now Nintendo. I don’t know how hard this is to understand. How do you think the PC port of Bayo 1 happened recently? Nintendo has no say outside of Bayo 2, and it Sega does and in-house port of Bayo 2 (like how Sega Europe did with Bayo 1), and remove the Nintendo content, they could very likely port it where they please. I honestly would not be surprised if Bayo 2 is jammed into Bayo 2 like 1 was with 2. Nintendo payed for the upscaled version of Bayo 1 for the Wii U and we just got it on PC.

  66. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    This. People don’t seem to get that.

  67. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    None of those 3 Platinum developed games sold well tough. Like, Star Fox Zero bombed. As did Wonderful 101. And Bayo 2 didn’t even sell as well as the PS3 version of Bayo1 did. I don’t think Nintendo and Platinum have that good of a relationship considering all the games in the deal bombed and Nintendo released a new console 3 years later.

  68. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    A lot of Japanese devs are. The console market in Japan is not what it used to be.

  69. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    Same way Capcom got away with releasing RE:4 on the PS2 8 months after the GC release. They just had a different internal team make the game and added extras.

    The Capcom 5 contract meant nothing.

  70. Phish!
    April 25, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    and since Sega is a company and companies loves money, Nintendo prolly have to come with some money to get atleast a timed exlcusivity deal (as much as i want it) But regarding Bayo 2, Nintendo has more say in that game since they basically funded all of it

  71. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 4:22 pm

    Unless Sega does an in-house port, which they have every right to do. They own the IP, which means the character and world.

    That’s how Capcop got out of their Capcom 5 deal with the Nintendo GC. All the games that flopped via that deal got ported by an internal Capcom team.

  72. InkViper
    April 25, 2017 at 5:27 pm

    Okay do I laugh at you, or set you straight in a few facts, best set you straight!

    1.Your comparing sales figures of the PS3 33+ million install base by October 2009 (the release of the game) to the Will U’s install base of 9.2 million! Of October 2014. Not exactly a fair comparison. And considering Bayo 2 sold 800,000, that’s a great attachment ratio for a supposed console that had zero uses, who weren’t interested in more mature titles!

    2. Every game platinum made for Nintendo, platinum got paid, they didn’t lose out, didn’t have to pay out of their own pocket, and still made money off the sales of their games even if they weren’t at GTA five sales figures! So I don’t see how that could strain the relationship.

    3. Hideki Kamiya is somewhat outspoken, and has even expressed interest in Platinum going second party, if their relationship was so strained as you think. we would’ve heard something from him about now, and as we havent your assumption is baseless!

    4. Hey do you remember what you said about Senran Kagura not coming to switch, and then it was announced for switch, yeah, I don’t think I have to say any more on that!

  73. Audrius Kliukas
    Audrius Kliukas
    April 25, 2017 at 5:36 pm

    Yeah, but if Nintendo funds Bayonetta 3, as they did 2, it’s not coming out on anything else, whether they own the franchise or not.

  74. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 5:40 pm

    They likely won’t. I don’t think Sega wants to lock a franchise down to one console. Especially since so many games have seen such mixed results.

  75. InkViper
    April 25, 2017 at 5:44 pm

    I have no problem for Sega bringing more of their games to the PC, including the platinum’s back catalog! However for Sega to release a game like Vanquish or Bayonetta which they published, probably requires very little input from Platinum, and this is due to them having full access to the game’s assets! As they have control over those particular titles. But I’ve not seen any think that would lead me to believe Sega is interested in continuing their long-standing publishing deal with Platinum in any real meaningful way. And as for a Bayo 3 happening where there funding and publishing who knows, I think when more likely to see them bring Persona 5 two PC before fronting the cash for a third Bayonetta game.

  76. Malcolm_Ecks
    April 25, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    1. Doesn’t matter. Nintendo and Playstation cater to different markets in gaming.

    2. Platinum won by being paid, but Nintendo post money. That’s where the relationship is strained. Is Nintendo prepared to throw more money away? Every game they paid Platinum to make bombed.

    3. You assume the relationship is great based on a deal that failed for Nintendo. Capcom did a lot of with with Nintendo via deals too (Capcom 5, Monster Hunter, Spirit Tracks). Yet do to the poor sales of most Capcom games not called Monster Hunter on Nintendo products, Capcom has been wary of porting stuff to the Switch and have said so openly. They’re not even porting the Disney Afternoon Collection, which features games that were on the NES.

    4. Irrelevant to the conservation and frankly due to Nintendo’s image the Senran Kagura game will likely bomb or not sell well. Nintendo doing big promo for an ecchi game involving teens is likely not going to happen. They barely got away with Allison Rapp.

    I would not be surprised if that Senran Kagura game gets released on other console afterwards.

  77. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 25, 2017 at 6:15 pm

    Yeah, that was kind of what I was saying.
    What I meant was if Sega funds Bayonetta 3 then it could be on whatever system they want but if Nintendo funds Bayonetta 3 like they funded Bayonetta 2 then it will be a Nintendo Switch exclusive.

  78. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 25, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    Of course Bayonetta outsold Bayonetta 2, Bayo1 was released on the two biggest systems of last generation, Bayonetta 2 was released on the Wii U, which by all rights failed. It’s not so much that Bayo2 didn’t sell as it is the Wii U didn’t sell. Had the Wii U sold like the Nintendo Switch is currently then Bayo2 likely would have done just as well if not better then Bayo1.

  79. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 25, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    Actually, since Bayonetta was a DLC character for Smash Bros. that was released last year she was in Smash Bros. AFTER the announcement of the Nintendo Switch (known as the NX when she was announced and released) and after Bayonetta 2’s “struggling” sales..which ignited interest enough to prompt Nintendo to re-release Bayonetta 2 in stores again.

    Considering how well the Nintendo Switch sold I doubt it’d be a ‘monumentally stupid’ move to have Bayo3 be a Switch Exclusive. The Nintendo Switch is selling gangbusters (and is considered not only Nintendo’s best launch sales but even possibly even getting Wii numbers in regards to sales) and Bayonetta interest is at an all-time high due to her inclusion in Super Smash Bros. and her upcoming amiibo figures. While I do think that Bayo3 would likely sell better as a multi-platform release, it wouldn’t sell that much less as a Nintendo Switch exclusive, I feel.

  80. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 25, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    Well…actually, yes, those things CAN happen if you were directly the one funding something. As an example, Nintendo owns the code for GoldenEye 007 on the Nintendo 64 but not the franchise while Rare, now owned by Microsoft, created it..as such, Nintendo can not release it on their Virtual Console but Microsoft also can’t release it on their services.
    In regards to Bayonetta 2, the IP Rights are as follows: Series created by Platinum Games, Intellectual Property owned by Sega, Bayonetta 2 (the game) rights held by Nintendo (this is because THEY funded it)
    Hell, Hideki Kamiya even stated that Platinum Games/Sega CAN NOT port Bayonetta 2 to other systems EVER because of Nintendo being the ones that funded the game.

  81. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 25, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    So you’re saying that you’d have preferred Bayonetta be a one hit wonder with no other games ever and sporadic appearances in other games? That’s pretty salty.
    Fact is that Bayonetta as a series was saved by Nintendo’s intervention and funding Bayonetta 2 and then they increased her overall popularity due to her inclusion in Super Smash Bros for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U.
    Honestly, if Bayonetta 3 is exclusive to Nintendo Switch it will likely sell much better then Bayonetta 2 did due to the aforementioned newfound popularity/publicity of appearing in Super Smash Bros along with the fact that the Nintendo Switch is selling AMAZINGLY, we’re talking Wii levels without the bigger issues that kept 3rd Parties from releasing games on it.

  82. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 25, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    Considering that a Nintendo Switch gamecard can hold the Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, I’d say we don’t have much to worry about when it comes to it holding Bayonetta 1 nor Bayonetta 2.

  83. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 25, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    If the relationship between Nintendo and Platinum Games is strained on Nintendo’s side they wouldn’t have put Bayonetta in Super Smash Bros.

  84. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 25, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    Because the PS3 had almost 30 times the sales of the Wii U. For a niche title on a system that sold poorly I’d say Bayonetta 2 sold pretty well..not to mention Nintendo/Smash Bros. fans voted enough to make her Top 5 in the World and #1 choice in the Smash Bros. poll to get her included into the game.

  85. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 25, 2017 at 6:39 pm

    It will depend. Sega allowed Nintendo to fund Bayonetta 2 because they wouldn’t, nor would Sony nor Microsoft.
    Sega will agree to such a deal again if they don’t want want to fund development of Bayonetta 3 and Nintendo does since they’ll only stand to make money off of something they wouldn’t going to pay to have made otherwise..its one of those Win/Win situations, which they also seen Bayonetta 2 on Wii U as.

  86. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 25, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    Pretty much. I could see ‘Portable Bayonetta’ being a good selling point for a Switch Exclusive/Port.

  87. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 25, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    Don’t forget Bayonetta’s increased popularity and social recognition due to appearing in a little game called Super Smash Bros.

  88. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 25, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    Portable Bayonetta just sounds amazing to me. I want to see Bayo1/2 ported to Switch.

  89. InfectedAI
    April 25, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    Good points, but I still find Persona unlikely. Sega may own Atlus, but that doesn’t mean they want to cause problems with the studio if they have no interest/are against a PC port.

  90. InkViper
    April 25, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    1. Again I have to state this, 1.2 million copies of the first game sold on the hard-core gamers platform with 33+ million uses versus 800,000 copies for the game’s sequel, sold on a supposed non-hard-core platform with less then 10 million users at the time, does not share the same audience or market, REALLY! What drugs are you smoking, so I can avoid them.

    2.There a preferred developer, the name was up there with all the other big devs when the switch was announced. Then there is the recent announcement of Bayonetta 1 amiibo, some think they didn’t have to do but have, you know because they don’t have a strained relationship with Platinum.
    3.And as for the Capcom 5, That was over a decade ago, how much now is really applicable from that deal, especially considering it was still Capcom who was ultimately responsible for selling those games, as developer and publisher!

    4. It is Very relevant, you should be paying attention to what Japanese developers have to say, especially as Kenichiro Takaki had made comments about HD rumble before making any announcements of particular games, as it indicated he might be very interested in bringing his game series to switch. It shows you’re not paying attention, considering that comment was doing the rounds!
    Plus, Senran Kagura started on the 3DS, and as there was little to no blowback for Nintendo, with the game series debuting on their system, you have no argument here.

    Not that she’s relevant to the conversation , or even applicable to your arguments, being that Allison Rapp is a parasite that would of brought the same trouble for what ever company she would’ve worked at, porn companies being the only exception.

  91. InkViper
    April 25, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    Has Atlas ever indicated they were against their titles appearing on PC?

  92. InfectedAI
    April 25, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    They’ve never shown interest in it and until recently most Japanese developers where very against it. If they’re open to it they’ve never indicated it, but I seem to remember previous remarks by them saying they have no interest.

  93. Val Ser
    Val Ser
    April 25, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    I pray all the gods, old and new, for it to be true. I need more bayonetta in my life. Also, it would be nice to see it on PS4/Switch platforms with a PC port later on.
    Also, i would love for them to implement new gameplay mechanics by borrowing ideas and content from the defunct Scalebound, like summoning and controlling directly for a longer time the hair demons (Bayonetta riding Gommorah would be awesome).
    Give it also more multiplayer and co-op (online and local) and add also a versus mode where we can fight one on one with different characters from this universe, we have plenty already :D
    just make it happen PG!!

  94. SevTheBear
    April 26, 2017 at 1:34 am

    One can hope

  95. Audrius Kliukas
    Audrius Kliukas
    April 26, 2017 at 3:00 am

    What I’m saying is that as far as I’m concerned, if it’s not on platform I own, makes no difference to me.

    “if Bayonetta 3 is exclusive to Nintendo Switch it will likely sell much better then Bayonetta 2”

    Maybe, but that’s not a very high bar to jump over. While the Zelda box is selling rather well, PS4/Xbox One/PC already has orders of magnitude bigger installed user base. Let’s be honest here, people buy Switch because of Zelda, not because it’s amazing gaming console. Why would they be interested in Bayonetta?

  96. GameZard
    April 26, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    I doubt Beyond good and evil will be a switch exclusive as that won’t be profitable.

  97. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 26, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    People who like The Legend of Zelda and people who like Bayonetta do have a lot of cross-over, actually, and Nintendo fans in general have a lot of love for Bayonetta, proof of this is found in how she won the Super Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot appearing in the Top 5 for North America and the #1 choice in Europe. Not only that but people who discovered Bayonetta through Super Smash Bros. may be interested in buying and playing the games she came from, as happened with EarthBound due to Ness appearing in Smash 64, Fire Emblem due to Marth & Roy in Melee, and Shulk in the original release of Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U (in fact, it already happened since Nintendo got enough fan demand that they re-released physical copies of Bayonetta 2 for the Wii U and I wouldn’t be surprised if the Wii U versions of Bayo1/2 get Switch ports). Honestly, I feel that, at this point, there may be more Nintendo users with interest in Bayonetta then solely PS4, Xbone, or PC users, but that has no evidence to back it up, just how I feel it may be due to Bayo2 and Bayo in Smash.

    Also, a lot of people actually DO have an interest in the Nintendo Switch because it is an ‘amazing gaming console’, however unlike the PS4 and Xbone the reason people consider the Switch to be amazing is because of its ability to deliver a near-PS4 level gaming experience on a handheld that can also be played on a TV like a typical console.
    You can say that the PS4, XBone, and PC have larger install base but I’ll simply say ‘no duh’ to that since they have been out for a lot longer then the Nintendo Switch has, though it is already catching up to them. If nothing else it sold more in its first month of release then either PS4 or Xbox One did.

  98. John Doe
    John Doe
    April 26, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    SONY cared.

    When SEGA completely fucked up the PS3 port, SONY used their own money to fix it, patch it, and make it run better.

    Platinum didn’t even do a PS3 version, it was SEGA who took their X360 code and did a shit job of porting it.

  99. Fenrir007
    April 26, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    Maybe it could be a Sega-Nintendo operation, where the game would be a Switch timed exclusive, while later coming out on the PC (which is not a direct competitor of the Switch).

    But I’m sure it’s just Sega.

  100. Fenrir007
    April 26, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    “So you’re saying that you’d have preferred Bayonetta be a one hit wonder with no other games ever and sporadic appearances in other games? ”

    If Bayo 2 didn’t exist, Bayo 1 would still be ported to the PC (since Bayo’s 2 shitty sales were certainly not an influence on porting it here) and a proper Bayo 2 would be made as a multiplat also on the PC.

  101. Audrius Kliukas
    Audrius Kliukas
    April 27, 2017 at 3:14 am

    I’m talking about Bayonetta the game, not character. It’s good that you recognize that you have nothing to base all of this on, because it’s just complete speculation. You say Smash Bros generated a lot interested for Bayonetta. Ok, sure, it may very well has done that. However, Super Smash sold millions of copies and B2 sold not even a million 3 years. So numbers doesn’t show this overwhelming support and interest you are talking about here.

    “Also, a lot of people actually DO have an interest in the Nintendo Switch because it is an ‘amazing gaming console’,”

    Is that why 89% of consoles were bought with Zelda game? Out of 1.5 million units, 1.33 millions came with Breath of the Wild. Doesn’t exactly scream “we aren’t buying this specifically for Zelda” to me. Also, specs are much weaker than even Xbox One, so no, it’s not near-PS4 experience. I hear BotW drops well below 30 FPS quite often and it’s not even 1080p. Funnily enough, it runs better un-docked. Abysmal, if you ask me. The only thing it has going for it is this console/handheld gimmick. If you are looking for that, then it’s a perfect fit for you.

    “though it is already catching up to them.”

    Uh, no. Have you looked at numbers? Yes, you are right, Switch just came out, but that doesn’t change the fact that there are fewer of them. Maybe at some point Switch sales will surpass PS4 or Xbox sales, but now it’s nowhere even near that point.

  102. Deva Ashera
    Deva Ashera
    April 27, 2017 at 5:23 am

    Honestly, I’m not so sure. Bayonetta 1 was a great game but it kinda came and went until the announcement of Bayonetta 2. Regardless of its sales, Bayonetta 2 and her inclusion in Super Smash Bros. got people talking about Bayonetta and thus interest in both her and her series was heightened. This interest is likely what prompted Sega to port Bayo1 to PC. If it had just been Bayonetta 1 and then nothing else ever really happened with the character then Sega would likely have never even considered doing a PC port.
    Also, Bayonetta 2, as it is, is ‘proper’. The game itself is great. Whether or not its exclusive or multiplat has nothing to do with whether it is a proper title.

  103. Icer Zerocool
    Icer Zerocool
    April 27, 2017 at 3:32 pm

    Would love this would be a Nintendo Switch exclusive and hey, I have a PS4 too. But personally I felt it should only be on the Switch. Plus, would love to see how Bayonetta’s 3 new hair look like.

  104. Fenrir007
    April 27, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    If Sega ported Valkyria Chronicles even after the series got downgraded to PSP fertilizer twice, it goes to show that it would happen eventually.

    As for the proper thing, I was mostly thinking about framerate and AA. The game itself is great, no doubt.

  105. J_Joestar
    April 29, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    i still have that at home somewhere, loves playing as them in the PXZ games but in actual RoF the combat mechanics completely went over my head.

  106. J_Joestar
    April 29, 2017 at 3:53 pm

    don’t think i’ve ever heard of anyone arguing that a game with a great attach rate meant the console it was on is bad.

    sure it isn’t matching up in raw power, but with a lot of the efficiencies of newer software and stuff, the difference isn’t as wide as the even the Wii/PS360 days.

  107. Audrius Kliukas
    Audrius Kliukas
    May 1, 2017 at 4:25 am

    I have no idea what you are talking about. Also, attach rate? The hell that means?