Quantcast

Mighty No. Nein – #GamerGate Censorship

mightynumber9nichegamer9-22-14

This is a news piece presented with editorial liberties. The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of, and should not be attributed to, Niche Gamer as an organization.

Isn’t it amazing in this world how old issues, long thought irrelevant, always seem to creep back up reminding you why they were an issue to begin with?

For those not in the know, Mighty No. 9 was a kickstarter project that was pitched as kind of an unofficial revival of the beloved Mega Man franchise.  What set this apart from dozens of other similar fan made titles was that this one was being headed by one of the original creators of Mega Man himself, Keiji Inafune.  Things were going along great, people were loving the project, and in the end the project raised over four million dollars.  This however, is when things started to go south for a lot of gamers.

If you have listened to any of our nichegamer podcasts you will know that I am always very skeptical of kickstarter.  Once these people have your money you can’t be sure what they will do with it or if they will even follow through with their project at all.  Once they have that cold hard cash you are effectively no longer a factor in decision making and they can do whatever they please once they have your money.  In the case of Mighty No. 9 it was the decision to hire somebody due to nepotism that would divide the entire community.

Enter Dina Abou Karam, who was hired as the community manager for the project, amid a massive controversy.  I won’t get into it now, but make sure you read up on why this was so controversial as it’s very relevant to today’s topic.

Needless to say, eventually nerves calmed and the fire of the controversy died down and people went back to being excited about the game again.  It seems, however, that the recent #GamerGate scandal was too much for Dina, one of the Social Justice Warrior Cultists, and she just had to get in on the action.

@MightyNo9… wait, what? I’m blocked from following a project I pledged $300 to because I support #Gamergate? Gneiss pic.twitter.com/ABVcjs3ymc

— Forte (@FortesSnC) September 21, 2014

The problem with this is that Mighty No. 9 is a kickstarter project that wouldn’t exist without the good will of the fans who were excited enough to donate to the game.  It also stands that Dina wouldn’t have the job of community manager if those fans weren’t kind enough to donate to the project.  This would be abhorrent behavior for anybody and at first I was just going to publish the story to get the world out without accusing Dina of anything since, although suspected, we had no proof that it was her doing despite being the community manager.

Luck struck though since Dina, like most other SJW’s, can’t keep their mouth shut and she quickly took to twitter bragging about her actions and of course attributing everything that everybody was pissed off about to harassment and misogyny.  It’s almost like these people are ad hominem robots created in a lab somewhere.

My mentions are a Who’s Who-gives-a-fuck of block fodder, for those of you with an itch. <3 — Dina (@PetiteMistress) September 21, 2014

Yes, because who cares if people that attributed to you getting a job are upset over your actions, just silence them.

ByFM-09CEAAPS5h

Classy Dina, classy

.@Soldierofhyrule yes! Courage like yours, oh mighty burner account not using your real name or tweeting abt anything but GG! What a hero! — Dina (@PetiteMistress) September 21, 2014

.@ItsMehWeesnaw dislike me till you’re red in the face for disagreeing with your faux-movement of thinly veiled misogyny. Stop harassing.

— Dina (@PetiteMistress) September 21, 2014

It keeps going on like this and you can check out her twitter account if you are interested, but I did come across this one tweet which possibly explained her actions.

@bobbypaycheque because he kept posting screencaps from the private backer forums which is a rule violation. Which we clearly state.

— Dina (@PetiteMistress) September 21, 2014

The truth of her claim I can not verify as she doesn’t offer any proof and the twitter account for Forte still claims he was blocked for Gamer Gate reasons and doesn’t show any offending images.  If this truly was the reason he was banned, that sounds legitimate, but then that doesn’t explain the non-stop constant snarky remarks against Gamer Gate and people supporting it on your twitter account.  It really makes me question your agenda as this is exactly the thing that makes people upset with you getting hired into the position in the first place.

As it turns out people have organized behind this and are again calling for their donations to be returned

@KachoArinoDesu @spergnado @FortesSnC @No56008 @Pickled_Orange @raiiban @Rupang86 @FauxpasFenril @MightyNo1204 pic.twitter.com/wJtn7u3lPP

— JamusAeons (@JamusAeons) September 22, 2014

That image was from refund requests from earlier this year during the initial Dina controversy, so now they are going directly to the credit card companies to request refunds.  Forcing two instances of mass refund requests doesn’t seem like the actions of a good community manager.

Here is the issue I have with all of this and it all goes back to Dina’s toxic attitude.  She is the community manager, meaning her job is to deal with the community.  Let’s say for a second that what she said was accurate, this entire thing would be dead if she just came out with the truth, apologized to #GamerGate supporters for getting the wrong idea and confirmed that #GamerGate supporters were welcome in the community as long as they didn’t harass or break any rules.

Instead she perpetuates this culture by spending an entire day harassing supporters of #GamerGate and playing the victim looking for pity.  If she would have taken the correct steps and managed her community properly, there wouldn’t be people rushing to get their money back since they feel they are supporting a toxic soulless project.  In their eyes she has killed any excitement people had for this project and she really has nobody to blame but herself.

No matter the reason, she just isn’t managing the community properly, proving that she wasn’t qualified for the position in the first place.  Now she is actually hurting the project, giving it bad press, and forcing people to request refunds through any means possible.

mightynumber9nichegamer29-22-14

However, as we have seen with these SJW types all along, they just can’t help themselves.

,

112 comments
  1. Optimus Deadpool
    Optimus Deadpool
    September 22, 2014 at 10:31 am

    She carried her beliefs over to her work and used it to block people who paid to get this game made and are entitled to certain perks because of that, that right there is grounds for dismissal in any job environment I have ever been in.

  2. Brad Donald
    Brad Donald
    September 22, 2014 at 10:33 am

    You should have seen the crap she pulled on the backer forums a year ago. And how she stretched and abused that posting screen caps thing to ban people without proof. They kept changing the rules when ever she got caught violating them herself. And blocking people for months at a time for disagreeing with her. They she staked with moderation team with SJW supporters. And it got worse. This is no surprise. Comcept is could care less about the backers.

  3. yusupov
    yusupov
    September 22, 2014 at 10:44 am

    further evidence of how ruthlessly diabolical the enemy is here folks — the victim is accused of a crime that cannot possibly be proven without committing the same crime! this is no coincidence. these people are bullies. intelligence bullies. i read an article about it.

  4. Tyrannikos
    Tyrannikos
    September 22, 2014 at 10:47 am

    It’s unsettling how badly SJWs want to play the victim. They want to play that role so badly that they proceed to victimize others with the kind of emotional abuse you see from literal sociopaths.

    Dina shouldn’t have any sort of power over another human being. She’s abused it time and again. The fact that Comcept stands behind her is almost disgusting.

  5. Ace
    Ace
    September 22, 2014 at 10:47 am

    It’s ironic how Inafune was shitting all over Japanese developers the past 5 years, and the moment he gets to work with western devs, shit like this happens. It also doesn’t help that the game looks half-decent at best.

  6. Agent Cat
    Agent Cat
    September 22, 2014 at 10:49 am

    I was super excited for this project, but now it’s tainted. A single person who only got the job because she’s sleeping with someone within the company is pathetic. Even more so to spread personal ideals on a company Twitter. Inafune’s reputation from fans will continue the sink the longer this toxic poison is allowed to be CM.

  7. OfficerJeffrey
    OfficerJeffrey
    September 22, 2014 at 10:53 am

    The hypocrisy juice must taste real good for her to keep pushing on like she’s in the right.

  8. JackDandy
    JackDandy
    September 22, 2014 at 11:05 am

    I backed a bunch of KS projects, and was very satisfied with the results.

    …but DAMN, I really dodged a bullet with this one.

  9. Daniel Pang
    Daniel Pang
    September 22, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Pedantic editor report!

    There is a period missing at the end of your last sentence!

    Quick! Someone get me pictures! Pictures of Spider-Man!

  10. bf313
    bf313
    September 22, 2014 at 11:13 am

    Seeing this shit is just painful, those responses are beyond cringe worthy and reek of tumblr. Typical tumblr logic, can’t debate so you throw nonsense at people talking to you rationally. Regardless of whether or not a person brakes a community rule that isn’t the way you respond and interact with people in a professional manner. Shit like this is why I don’t have a Twitter, nothing ever good comes from Twitter.

  11. Jack Ripper
    Jack Ripper
    September 22, 2014 at 11:26 am

    People are blinded by Inafune being a creator of Megaman.

    But reality is he hasn’t made a decent game in a decade and has been butchering prominent series by “westernizing” (or outsourcing). He has a hard on for Spark Unlimited which also doesn’t help much for games that are being developed.

  12. Jack Ripper
    Jack Ripper
    September 22, 2014 at 11:28 am

    This is professional employee at its best.

    It’s funny how companies like to keep people like this in the community and still expect things to work out well. Well I’m done supporting Comcept.

  13. LurkerJK
    LurkerJK
    September 22, 2014 at 11:30 am

    Sadly i don’t think there is much to be done here, getting a refund seems like a long shot (isn’t it too late to do it though the credit card company ?)

    She didnt get fired the first time, so i doubt they will change their stance

  14. Guest
    Guest
    September 22, 2014 at 11:34 am

    I never thought I would say this but I would rather spend my money on buying Mega Man games for the fifth time on the eShop.

  15. Joseph Guzman
    Joseph Guzman
    September 22, 2014 at 11:34 am

    I never thought I would say this but I would rather spend my money on buying Mega Man games for the fifth time on the eShop..

  16. Akumanoid
    Akumanoid
    September 22, 2014 at 11:36 am

    They should have kept 8-4 ltd. on the job. They did such a great job running the campaign that they could have easily kept the hype train going strong until now. Instead they got a radfem loony that alienates anyone with a different point of view. I don’t regret backing the project. I just wish they excercised better judgement with who they put in charge of relaying community feedback to the developers. I’d bet money that she filters out opinions she sees as unwanted to them.

    Too bad I wouldn’t know how to complain in Japanese.

  17. RandomDev
    RandomDev
    September 22, 2014 at 11:44 am

    This is why we fight for the #gamergate side, these people need to go away once and for all.

  18. Daniel
    Daniel
    September 22, 2014 at 12:18 pm

    I don’t know what to think of this.
    Either we don’t support the game ,and they won’t make a sequel.
    Or we support it, and odds are they won’t realize she’s a problem.

  19. handsomejack47
    handsomejack47
    September 22, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    For people who are supposedly standing up for victims, SJWs sure do enjoy being the victim themselves.

  20. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    Dina being a genuinely horrible person asidem. Her concept for that gayass trans version of Beck just looks hideous.

    This is why I backed Shantae instead. She is a fantastic character and I don’t see Wayforward fucking anyone over. They already told one hypersensitive flower to sit in the corner when they complained about her mermaid form being sexist.

  21. 33
    33
    September 22, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    To be honest, even without Dina the English version of the game would be worthless due to 8-4. I keep hearing how awful their localisation of Gunvault was, inserting their own politics like non-he/she pronouns for a character, and generally not well done. I can’t wait to see how bad this one turns out.

    http://media.tumblr.com/d75c17521ee8daff9c6f22ccb4a34fed/tumblr_inline_nb4jbdsVqH1r5xxmk.jpg

    They’re a group of rather unprofessional people and I’m not surprised that they’ve come up in this whole controversy.

  22. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    If that’ true, then that shit is being shoved down our throat. I mean for fuck sake. We know what that shit means replacing one word does nothing. I don’t get this shit. I hope it’s poor translation rather than Dina inserting her unique blend of batshit into it.

    It seems they are cherry picking feedback and presenting this stuff to the devs and writers. Just like IA said. I am not buying this or Mighty No.9 and after I share this, I know an entire forum that will lose their shit and do the same. That’s just one of the many forums I’m relaying constant information too.

    What does “Xem” even mean? I haven’t caught up on my “pointless pronunciation”

  23. Weesnaw
    Weesnaw
    September 22, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    Ugh, when will she realize her job is to be NEUTRAL and not screw around, insulting customers, and ruining the company(if it wasn’t already tarnished by the censorship)’s reputation.

  24. Hydroninja9
    Hydroninja9
    September 22, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Im thinking about asking for a refund. I backed this project and right now , im absolutely disgusted. It was bad enough with the forums when Dina first joined but now this … Then what am i gonna do with that might gunvolt code , perhaps ill burn it or something lol

  25. Brandon Orselli
    Brandon Orselli
    September 22, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Sorry about that – I updated it.

  26. LurkerJK
    LurkerJK
    September 22, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    Several years ago there was a push to remove “he” and “him” as a generic pronouns in books when you are not aware of someone’s sex

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-specific_and_gender-neutral_pronouns

    so they came up with Xe and Xem (and like another hundred variations that sound even worse), they all sounded stupid and it was obvious the public wouldnt accept them, many ignored it, but many seem to have just changed “He” and “Him” to “She” and “Her” to shut them up

    Have you read a Dungeons & Dragons book since 3rd edition ? they use She and Her as a generic pronouns, ive been seeing it more often lately.

    this is the first time ive ever seen Xe and Xem (or any of the other ones) used in an actual product tho

  27. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    I don’t mind Him, Her and She. Those are still gender binary.

    Xe and Xem are fucking retarded. No matter what people say.

  28. EvilPundit
    EvilPundit
    September 22, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    If people are being denied perks that they paid for, isn’t that a breach of contract? Or even fraud?

    It would be interesting to see what a lawyer has to say (I am not one).

  29. LurkerJK
    LurkerJK
    September 22, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    it could also be Jer, or Thon or Zhe or Hu or whatever (look at that table in the wiki link, it sounds like some kind of klingon dictionary)

  30. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    The more I read, the dumber I feel I become. It’s horseshit. People do not want this kind of shit in their games. Dina needs to go.

    This is a games media site, I wonder if they can get ahold of Inafune.

  31. E-Bon
    E-Bon
    September 22, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    Well, there goes a lot of my interest in this game, how disappointing.

  32. nonscpo
    nonscpo
    September 22, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    OMFG seriously Dina? I’m so glad I didn’t back this Kickstarter, and if she keeps up her unprofesional behavior she’ll just give me a reason to boycott the game. My gaming backlog is already pretty big so it doesn’t take much these days for me to skip a titles!

  33. Trigger
    Trigger
    September 22, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    His reputation is in a precarious position at the moment. Either he acknowledges the fan backlash and fires Dina’s ass, in which case he brings down the wrath of the SJWs upon him and his company, or he lets Dina keep her position, in which case he loses his fans. He’s gonna take a hit either way. This is what happens when you let nepotism take root.

  34. TheSharpeful
    TheSharpeful
    September 22, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    Wow… the hatred is strong with this one.
    This person needs to lose her job.

  35. Trigger
    Trigger
    September 22, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    That is a fucking shame, especially since Gunvolt’s gameplay is masterful. Wish I’d heard of this nonsense before buying. Certainly won’t be buying any sequels if this is going to be the norm.

  36. epy
    epy
    September 22, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    This extremely saddening to me as I was really looking forward to this game. Acting like a professional seems to be alien in this industry scoail media.

  37. 33
    33
    September 22, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    “Several years ago there was a push to remove “he” and “him” as a generic
    pronouns in books when you are not aware of someone’s sex”

    “He or she” (and the singular “they” for convenience) works perfectly fine, but for the example I used it wasn’t a matter of being unaware of the character’s sex. It was a unique pronoun for a special person.

    http://media.tumblr.com/84607bc5738fddd359f4e9511ca18ad4/tumblr_inline_nb4j9zNuo11r5xxmk.jpg

  38. epy
    epy
    September 22, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Wait.. is that a real image? Like non photoshop realsies? Oh my…

  39. nikoniko
    nikoniko
    September 22, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    a lot of gamergate results owe itself to twitter, since twitter was, at one time, almost the only place you could talk about it. and still is one of the only places you can talk about it.

  40. nikoniko
    nikoniko
    September 22, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    damn now i want to get shantae. never cares for it before just now haha

  41. 33
    33
    September 22, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    “I hope it’s poor translation rather than Dina inserting her unique blend of batshit into it.”

    As far as I’m aware, Dina is just a community manage for Mn9. All I meant is that she’s not the only one within that group that is unprofessional and pushing an agenda by forcing their political opinions in places where it shouldn’t be.

    If somebody wants to make a game with a person like that: fine, but people shouldn’t edit somebody else’s work to push an opinion.

    They’re in my blacklist group with NISA now for awful localisations (and publishing as well in NISA’s case).

  42. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    You mean NISA’s Europe store? That’s a fucking sad joke.

    Other than that, what’s NISA done? I mean I can understand the bathing scene in Mugen Souls.

    Also, if someone can get a hold of the Japanese version of Gunvolt and compare the pronouns, we have some real ammo.

  43. tyren02
    tyren02
    September 22, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    The updates promised to backers are delivered through Kickstarter emails. I don’t think the company Twitter account counts. Still a pretty scuzzy move though.

  44. nikoniko
    nikoniko
    September 22, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    lol ‘humanist’ hu.
    fuck that.

    HU GAVE HUMSELF A NICE HUMMER
    fuck this stupid shit.

  45. blimble
    blimble
    September 22, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    I thought the initial controversy was stupid, these forums are always fascist and “we want your feedback” is shorthand for “whine about stuff here if you really want to.” People praised idiots like heavy who made the most winding posts to say well nothing has happened yet but she may possible could RUIN EVERYTHING, and then there were people lying about refunds

    but now, this is very unprofessional. There are mno9 fans of many different groups and line of thoughts. If she blocks them for not being hers then she should not be in that position. Though as someone who did back and has been tweeting about gg while following mno9, I haven’t been blocked so what did these do to be blocked?

  46. 33
    33
    September 22, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    ” (isn’t it too late to do it though the credit card company ?)”

    It depends on your credit/debit card company and where you’re from, but 120 from the day the buyer discovered the problem (e.g. an item arrived broken) but I have heard of times that stretch a very long time.

    Today’s a good day to say you’re unsatisfied with it.

  47. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    Just wait. You haven’t come across her vision yet. Look at her tweets and how dismissive they are. She has no idea what a community is, it seems like she’s more interested in making an echo chamber.

  48. Ritchet
    Ritchet
    September 22, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    And that’s why I like to think Comcept is dead and the true Megaman Spiritual Successor is called Shovel Knight.

  49. blimble
    blimble
    September 22, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    Not really. The demos that have come out are fantastic

    I’m sick of people shitting over the developers hard work cause of a bad community manager

  50. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    Seriously try out the original and the second one on DS one, they are fantastic. The third on is on the way followed by the forth.

    Hell the third is coming to Wii U in HD.

  51. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    Fucking, A.

  52. blimble
    blimble
    September 22, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    Do you really think she is searching through every backers tweets?

    the only way she would know is tweeting at her about it, which wasn’t need. I’d have said ignore her but now she has acted unprofessionally and wrongly dragged the game into this spotlight

  53. 33
    33
    September 22, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    “Other than that, what’s NISA done?” Poor translations (typos, untranslated text, changing dialogue completely), removing content (mini-games, CGs, DLC characters), adding glitches and bugs that weren’t in the original game, making free DLC paid DLC, loads of censorship and changing “Etsy Erhart” to “Etsy Dee” because naming a character “STD” is apparently hilarious.

    http://www.siliconera.com/2008/10/14/falling-flat-encountering-rhapsodys-ds-glitches/
    http://www.siliconera.com/2008/10/13/bonus-content-cut-from-rhapsody-ds/

  54. EvilPundit
    EvilPundit
    September 22, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    As I understand it, if people paid money on the agreement that they would receive specific benefits, then denying those benefits is legally actionable. It’s about the contract, not the website on which the contract is meant to be fulfilled.

    Basically, you can’t just sell something and then refuse to deliver it after your customer has paid – unless the customer has breached the agreement in some way. And I doubt that posting on a specific hashtag was part of the contract.

  55. abola2121
    abola2121
    September 22, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    Is there anyway to get in touch with Keiji Inafune without having to go through Dina?

  56. ruleofthebrave
    ruleofthebrave
    September 22, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    From what I heard, it is very difficult. Since any and every one of us is part of the “community”, it all goes through her first. Probably the reason why she is so confident she can go around bullying people and talking smack without repercussion.

  57. atheistconservative
    atheistconservative
    September 22, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    So here’s the thing … we need action items. There has to be some point of contact other than Dina. You can’t just take everyone’s money then start banning them because you’re brain damaged.

    Surely she reports to someone other than Inafune. Let’s get them involved.

  58. Trigger
    Trigger
    September 22, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    I loved the gameplay of the MN9 demo and am confused as hell by all the rage I’ve heard going around about how it was apparently lackluster, but I would withdraw my support from the project immediately were it not far too late to get a chargeback at this point.

    What you put up with is what you stand for. I refuse to put up with “social justice” bullying on my video game playground.

  59. Trigger
    Trigger
    September 22, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Because the target’s gender was of special importance to the mission at hand. Yep, being bigender presents a clear and present threat to the hero and definitely warrants a mention in the briefing.

    Fuuuuuuuck thiiiiiiiiiis.

  60. Akumanoid
    Akumanoid
    September 22, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    … They fucking Tumblr’d this game?

    Come on 8-4.

  61. blimble
    blimble
    September 22, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    A lot of the complaints I see are obvious trolls, like the game needs work still, especially on animations, but I see people complaining about stuff like “why isn’t this game more vertical as it has a 4 way dash?” (to people who have not played it only has 3) and “why is there a combo meter? mega man has never had that”

    I would understand wanting a refund if it were a dev saying that but Dina really hasn’t done anything, like she said she was designing robots but I have seen nothing she has apparently done (she probably meant gets told exactly what to draw and has 0 choice in the mater of what it looks like). With someone like Burch who really effects the game I see why you would not buy/refund but not with Dina, you are better complaining by email to them. If enough get sent something has to happen

  62. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    I know. It’s bullshit. These people have no teeth, no bite and apparently no balls.

  63. Brotagonist
    Brotagonist
    September 22, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    Dealing with this crap constantly through old projects and work related things, I had to learn to accept that you will sometimes disagree with people in power above you. However this is just out of control. Not only is she being disgusting in general, she’s personally attacking and insulting the consumers. I can’t possibly think of a single other business where this type of person would not only lose their job, but probably be barred from working at any other similar sort of establishment. People completely seem to forget that once you are at the head of something, even your “personal” twitter becomes associated with the product that you work for.

  64. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    That free to paid DLC thing is bullshit. But as long as Koei exists, nothing will compare to their shit DLC practice.

    But I need the rest to sink in to see how I feel about it.

  65. Siveon
    Siveon
    September 22, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    I’m really, REALLY glad I went for Shantae instead of Might No. 9.

  66. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    Amen.

  67. Akko
    Akko
    September 22, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    Keep wasting your money on such projects on people who have no ethics or sense… good job!

  68. MusouTensei
    MusouTensei
    September 22, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    Dina should be fired or at least put in another, lesser payed, position where she can’t cause much harm. Her behaviour is hightly unprofessional and in most other jobs she would get fired, she is also harming her employer by losing potential customers and giving a bad rep to the company itself

  69. tyren02
    tyren02
    September 22, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    What I’m saying is that doesn’t apply. None of the Kickstarter rewards lists “access to our Twitter account” as a benefit, and you don’t have to be a backer to follow their Twitter. Unless she’s removing people from the backer list so they don’t get their rewards/update emails (I’d be surprised if she could even do this), there’s no fraud/breach of contract involved.

    Edit: I actually see a post below that shows the same person posted images that suggest he tried to bring up GamerGate discussions on the forum and his thread was deleted and he was banned for it. Assuming the backer forum doesn’t have stupidly restrictive rules in place already that he could be said to have broken, THAT could be breach of contract, because forum access was a backer reward.

  70. Kiujazi
    Kiujazi
    September 22, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    I need to pick up Risky’s Revenge since it’s on Steam. I played a bit on the DS and it’s so good, so I’m a fan.

  71. AMRA
    AMRA
    September 22, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    Say you want her fired or a full refund. Say that if you dont get your money back you are taking the issue up with the payment solutions provider they use.

  72. AnarKreig
    AnarKreig
    September 22, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    I can’t help but laugh at the suckers who funded it. They’ve only themselves to blame and people should stop focusing on the developers and community managers, however horrible they may be. It’s a free market, after all.

  73. RiseOfDivergents
    RiseOfDivergents
    September 22, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    This is what happens when you let SJW especially the ones with feminist agenda enter anything good, they bully, misinform and intimidate, and if you point that out they play victim, eventually they poison everything. I did not donate in this project but this is a good reminder to me that I will not support anything that has people with feminist views in it.

  74. RiseOfDivergents
    RiseOfDivergents
    September 22, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    Sure, next time some one does anything bad to you we will laugh at you because it is your mistake, right

    People with good intention supported something good that they are excited about and then got bullied, threatened and then cut off, obviously people are at fault, no body should support anything then.

  75. Carl B.
    Carl B.
    September 22, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Privileged white girl (Don’t give me her heritage, she’s still white) pouts, whines and bitches about idiotic stuff and acts like a spoiled princess. Typical.

    What a piece of work. She thinks everything she craps out is gold and she got her position by way of skill or talent. It’s almost depressing to see what a poorly functioning, mentally stunted human being she is.

    Frankly, I’m shocked Inafune puts up with this. If I was him, I’d tell this spoiled little gaijin twit to go back to the upper middle class condo she was spawned in and take the first train back to clueless town.

  76. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    You owe it to yourself.

  77. Topgeartony
    Topgeartony
    September 22, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    I’m pretty sure Inafune has no idea what’s going on. Someone needs to explain what’s going on to him without spilling their spaghetti.

    I bet if you get the English and Japanese version of Gunvolt side by side, the Japanse version won’t have pronouns or any of that bullshit.

  78. Horse
    Horse
    September 22, 2014 at 11:40 pm

    Whats next she will block anyone that dosnt vote for a politician she likes? or votes a certain way she dosnt like? She is clearly incompetent as a CM you can not let your personal politics and feelings effect your job. If you backed this company i feel very sorry for you.

  79. Nutcase
    Nutcase
    September 23, 2014 at 12:18 am

    Okay, I’m not going to defend the localization of Gunvolt (removing the in-battle dialogue is BS), and I could be wrong (I haven’t seen the Japanese script for GV), but chances are this one’s just a minor thing. A lot of the time Japanese text can use either completely neutral pronouns or no pronouns at all when talking in third person, which makes a literal translation awkward at best.

    Example: In Kara no Kyoukai, unless I’m completely misremembering (been awhile), the reader doesn’t even find out the main character is a girl until the end of part 1. Whereas in the official translation (sadly, part 1’s all that got translated), it uses she and spoils the surprise within the first few pages.

    The most likely cause for this is that the original text didn’t use a pronoun, and since English generally works a lot worse without them, the team decided to try and use a gender-neutral one to avoid pissing off the obsessive people. I don’t necessarily agree with the decision, but it’s technically within the margin of error for a translation (and yes, there is a margin of error; languages are not 1:1).

    That said, the localization does have issues. I’m just not sure this is the best example.

  80. Nutcase
    Nutcase
    September 23, 2014 at 12:21 am

    Well, Japanese can often get away without using any pronouns (they do have them, though), so you’re probably right. That said, it’s quite possible that the line didn’t translate and the team had to add something to make it work in English (you can still disagree with the specific choice, though). I agree with the point about Inafune, however. He probably doesn’t know about the controversy.

  81. GDI
    GDI
    September 23, 2014 at 12:24 am

    Now this person should be fired, and probably the only person in anti-GG team that can be legitimately fired. You may ask, what about all the other people in Kotaku, Gamasutra, etc.? They write hit pieces shitting on people, but guess what, those bring in the clicks and ad revenue, so technically speaking they’re damn good at their job. Just like the owner of Sankakucomplex* is good at his job alternating between posting tits or posting articles of Chinese things exploding. Yep, that’s how far gone my opinion of journalism has become.

    Whereas pro-GG people are doing things in their free time out of the
    love of their hobby, and so when they get attacked they get fired from
    their real jobs like the creator of #notyourshield. The only way to really affect majority of anti-GG people is to simply not engage with their hit pieces. It is hoped that eventually enough of the mainstream will start to wonder why they have so many one-sided vitriol pieces and what the other side has really done to deserve all that flak, and then they will find out that there really is more than what it seems. And so far they have come from atheist and libertarian communities.

    *Disclaimer: I actually love Sankakucomplex, but I find it highly suspicious that they have no mention of GamerGate whereas they were one of the most vocal defenders of the JP industry during the Rapelay fiasco attacking “Feminazis” during that time. So why the silence now? But definitely being a 2D porn site, it’s generally not a site where non-otaku supporters of GG would like to be associated with, nor even moderate female anime fans for that matter (e.g. harassment and misogyny can be inferred between the lines in any post in any topic denouncing Free bishounens). And really, even as a supporter of GG, while I can defend the right of Illusionsoft to exist (since they make the best waifu simulators around), I would not volunteer to be the counsel to defend the particular product of Rapelay… it’s gonna be hard.

    I doubt the Japanese (maybe not this one, but others) aren’t aware of
    what’s going on. I’d wager they are aware. In fact they faced western
    disdain and ridicule of their products for countless years. It’s only
    recently that there have been crossover East-West development
    collaborations and many of them were not so successful… in fact,
    hardcore players would caution JP companies to just develop for a JP
    market mindset and just be sure to localize honestly. So this issue — the fact that there could be a problematic person on the western end — will
    be a consideration going forward.

    One source I read a while back tallied female participation in Japanese ACG (anime, comic, game) industries at 55%, which is the reason why so many of their products are so wondrously genuinely feminine and escapist, a main reason I got attracted to JRPGs and the like in the first place. And that’s within a patriarchal structure that practically enforces an 8AM-4AM workday for the average salaryman. I always wanted more feminine games (not pink, sparkly games mind you) in the west, but they only seem to come from the French-speaking game development regions (e.g. Child of Light)

    So while from a casual observer this big battle only seems to be about “LOL tits” in games, the brushes being used to paint the other side are so broad there’s going to be a lot of collateral damage, with Japanese games the most common innocent bystander. JP companies always have to go through a translator — who may or may not translate everything to their best interests. Add to that one side that says “I’ll boycott you for caving in to censorship” and the other that says “I’ll boycott you because of depictions of women, colored and LGBT people”, and yet another that says “I’ll boycott you for being too loose and liberal with your translation language”. So in summary I won’t be surprised at all if they’re reading this through a machine translation and they’re fed up with all the toxic language being fed to them.

  82. 2501
    2501
    September 23, 2014 at 4:43 am

    This is horrible, l was already suspicious of MN9 but now l just don’t want to support it. I hope enough people get in contact with the higher-ups and get this person fired.

    It’s like she has no idea how a CM is suppose to act.

  83. Optimus Deadpool
    Optimus Deadpool
    September 23, 2014 at 5:35 am

    Well to that point, she is the community manager, and all the emails pretty much go through her. so she can and has stifled that. which is why I feel someone needs to somehow get word to the devs directly.

  84. Chris Wedge
    Chris Wedge
    September 23, 2014 at 6:36 am

    No.
    These people funded this game before that feminist arsehole came on board. They funded it as a spiritual successor to the classic Mega Man games. And it was looking good.

    Until she got on board and started wrecking shit. Please, lend me your crystal ball so I can see this coming in future, ‘kay?

  85. Chris Wedge
    Chris Wedge
    September 23, 2014 at 6:37 am

    Shovelry.
    You know, like chivalry but without the white-knighting.

  86. CogInTheWheel
    CogInTheWheel
    September 23, 2014 at 6:40 am

    Yeesh, the one kickstarter I regret backing right here. Not only has the beta felt more like an alpha with worse animations than Armillo and a dash mechanic that feels almost exactly like the tag-mechanic from Azure Striker. But now all this stupidity from a community manager that’s only there because of a friggin’ hook-up.

    Just like in my workplace, favoritism hires another absolutely craaaap employee.

    And that Mighty No.2 design…..christ that looks bad. Extremely over-designed to the point of looking like a faucet Martha Stewart would make for children.

    Luckily I only backed this with a small amount of money, or I’d be feeling even more burned. It’s definitely safe to say that Keiji wasnt the reason the MM games were good, seeing as that horrible ninja gaiden z game sucked chunks and Gunvolt is mediocre at best. I learned my lesson and never again.

  87. Rosalina
    Rosalina
    September 23, 2014 at 8:12 am

    How the hell did someone like her become a community manager? I’m glad I never backed the project up if some poser is running the pr.

  88. Connla Lyons
    Connla Lyons
    September 23, 2014 at 8:58 am

    Also why is there a picture of a tweet that has nothing to do with this issue in the middle of this article? The tweet to @Deadliterally has nothing to do with the issue in the article and was posted almost 10 days before Forte tweeted he got banned from following might no 9. The original tweet from deadliterally has been deleted so I dont know what he was posting to her or any of it’s context, it seems rather disingenuous to have it in the centre of this article.

  89. blimble
    blimble
    September 23, 2014 at 9:48 am

    Before this I’d have said it was silly and there was no evidence it would effect her work. Now there is evidence there is a point she will

    Now that is not to say she is tainting everything, in fact she likely has mostly been okay in telling as it isn’t like mno9 crosses any social issues, but we now have evidence some things will make her act unprofessionally

  90. Some furf
    Some furf
    September 23, 2014 at 10:28 am

    There’s a site out there that offers a blacklisting service for Twitter. A person can populate a list of people they consider block-worthy and publish it, then anyone else can subscribe to it and have everyone on it added to their own block list. Naturally, there’s one for people who have been tweeting about Gamergate and it’s quite possible that Dina may have signed the MN9 Twitter account up for it.

    I admit, this is merely conjecture, but it is possible that someone who’s never attempted to speak to her before could find themselves blocked already.

  91. Trigger
    Trigger
    September 23, 2014 at 10:47 am

    How about, instead of emphasizing the target’s gender status off the bat and using made-up pronouns to refer to them, we leave out all mention of gender (because it’s truly immaterial to a fucking mission briefing) and use the already-existent “they/them” instead?

  92. Nutcase
    Nutcase
    September 23, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Hey, I never said I agreed with their choice (Quote: “I don’t necessarily agree with the decision”), I’m just trying to point out that it’s fairly minor and within an acceptable range for translations. I actually agree “they” would be better.

    As for mentioning the character being transgender at all, I’ve been told that part’s in the original Japanese, so blaming the localization company isn’t exactly fair.

    Also, considering the mission was basically: find this person, the gender, while not important, is not pointless. After all, if you’re being told to find someone, it’s generally helpful to know if they’re a guy or a girl so you have at least a vague idea of what you’re looking for (the main character hadn’t even seen the person he’s looking for yet). It just happened to be bad timing with the character they chose. I have the feeling if the character was a normal guy or girl, no one would be complaining about mentioning their gender. I still agree that “they” would have cut this down to being even less relevant than it is.

    Please don’t misread that I’m disagreeing with the sentiment (I’m not). I just think blowing up about something this minor feeds the anti-gamer stereotypes, which we really don’t need. It’s less than ten words from a single briefing from the game, and the entire rest of the game doesn’t have anything along these lines. If you want to dislike the localization (I do), fine. But this is not a good example, and the reaction for this is overkill.

  93. Trigger
    Trigger
    September 23, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    I was just pointing out that there were perfectly acceptable ways to handle this that are well within the bounds of already-established English usage. Using made-up pronouns that are simply not part of the language at this time is inexcusable, especially when they’re associated with a push for a particular agenda. Wasn’t meant to be an attack on you — sorry for the misunderstanding.

  94. Nutcase
    Nutcase
    September 23, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    Ah, fair enough. I’m sorry as well. I tend to get annoyed with certain things related to translation complaints, so I misunderstood the reply.

    Yeah, I can see your point. They used an unnecessary solution to a simple issue, and it can be frustrating when this happens. That’s a reasonable complaint.

  95. Brad Donald
    Brad Donald
    September 23, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    So they denied my refund request yet again. Im going with the fact that amazon accepts the argument that gamers are just misogynist. Even with all the evidence we present. Amazon is on my bullcrap list now.

  96. GH56734
    GH56734
    September 23, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    In case anyone didn’t already know, they gutted down most of the in-game dialogue for the English version. To savr costs or release it early or some bullshit (game is 65MB smaller than the JP version!).
    Seems like they managed to screw over what little text they translated

  97. GH56734
    GH56734
    September 23, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    Ehhh no.
    Them/they or referring to the subject with is name/description is the way to go about it in English, grammatically speaking.
    The xe/e solution isn’t even grammatically correct – it’s a ridiculous neologism fueled with a gender-phobic agenda

  98. GH56734
    GH56734
    September 23, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    You could learn (and possibly understand the vastly superior jp version) – DO IT. NOW. がんばれ! :)
    Sina apparently slept with a guy from 8-4. And she’s now located in Comcept’s Osaka office. You should try contacting Inafune himself. In Japanese.

  99. Nutcase
    Nutcase
    September 23, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    Once again, as I just said: “you can still disagree with the specific choice, though”. I never said I agreed with it. My point was that choosing pronouns that aren’t in the source material is within the margin of error for a translation, since Japanese can get away with using them a lot less than English. That was the point I was answering, since comparing Japanese to English was brought up. The specific pronouns you choose to insert is a completely separate issue.

    I’d appreciate it if you didn’t put words in my mouth. That doesn’t help anyone.

  100. Duskman0
    Duskman0
    September 23, 2014 at 11:12 pm

    This is far from what I signed up for, I don’t want to fund a project in which its employees openly mock its supporters and ban people to further political agendas. Regardless of my opinion on #gamergate I just wanted to play MegaMan and all the simple fun that the Legends 3 development forum seemed to be. I didn’t sign up to join a community that bans people for opinions alone. What steps do I go through to request a refund? Because I’m sick of this, I don’t want to support Comcept anymore.

  101. GH56734
    GH56734
    September 24, 2014 at 8:48 am

    Apologies then, I missed your earlier reply.

  102. Nutcase
    Nutcase
    September 24, 2014 at 10:17 am

    Ah, no harm done. Sorry if I sounded harsh.

  103. courier69
    courier69
    September 27, 2014 at 5:02 am

    I KNEW I shoulda out my $80 toward Shantae ;_;. I can’t even get a refund for it now. I will judge the final game by its content, but I am done with comcept if there is no proper apology for this.

  104. Lord Zeon
    Lord Zeon
    September 28, 2014 at 1:33 am

    Well, you can’t win ’em all. I was going to back the project but got sidelined by a less-funded one and thought, with my gaming budget, I could support one of the two, and the millionaire company didn’t appear to need it as much.

    Clearly they did, they could have used the cash to pay me to send out a training PR email as a Master of Business and Marketing, VERY high-level stuff, a really complicated lesson: “Don’t vilify your clients”. For just a few thousand more, I could do a follow-up lecture: “Most of your PR comes from your clients. Seriously; don’t compare them to terrorists”. (The difference between fancy professional and internet commentator is the semicolon’s proper use.)

  105. Dawn Blast
    Dawn Blast
    September 30, 2014 at 11:44 am

    Really am hoping Might No. 9 gets cancelled. I’d rather have megaman, even a spiritual successor of Megaman, shrivel up and Die than let people Like Her taint it.

  106. silverwings
    silverwings
    October 1, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    It’s obvious, she blew her way into that job.

  107. Job Jon
    Job Jon
    October 1, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    He isn’t the father of megaman, it’s a case of the yuji nakas with him

  108. dsadsada
    dsadsada
    November 11, 2014 at 2:23 am

    I know I’m 2 months late for the discussion but did she seriously, without a hint of irony, made that thing in the header?

    I thought that thing was like those political caricatures made to insult other people by being as unflattering while still somewhat recognizable as possible.

  109. BottledWater
    BottledWater
    November 12, 2014 at 12:29 am

    Great editorial. Subscribed.

  110. Tiago Becerra Paolini
    Tiago Becerra Paolini
    November 16, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    The community managers are official representatives of the company. If Comcept does not do a thing about Dina, it is either because they are being incompetent employers or because they support such bad behavior. Either way, they don’t deserve to be trusted.

  111. DarthXaos
    DarthXaos
    February 18, 2015 at 7:32 pm

    Just do a chargeback on your credit card.