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Final Fantasy VII Remake a “Multi-Part Series,” CyberConnect2 Collaborating on Development

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Square Enix debut the first gameplay for the Final Fantasy VII Remake and with it, they sent out the official press release for the trailer.

Within the presser was a very interesting note, saying the game was the first in a “multi-part series.”

Here’s the blurb in question:

During this past weekend’s PlayStation Experience in San Francisco, Square Enix debuted a new trailer for Final Fantasy VII Remake, the full remake of the award-winning role-playing game, Final Fantasy VII. The new trailer features the first CG scenes as well as gameplay footage. Final Fantasy VII Remake will be told across a multi-part series, with each entry providing its own unique experience.

This is further explained in the latest issue of Dengeki Online, who interviewed both Yoshinori Kitase and Tetsuya Nomura.

“The concept of Final Fantasy VII being remade not fitting into a single game was there since we began development,” said Kitase. “We still can’t talk more about the multiple releases, but please stay tuned.”

“If we put all of our time into making a single release, parts of the game would be truncated,” said Nomura. “We’d have to cut things, while there would be very few extra parts. Instead of making the game as one release, we opted to do multiple ones.”

“If you watch the trailer, you’ll notice we showed Sector 1 and Sector 8, but even within those areas, I think you’ll notice a lot of detail,” said Kitase. “When you’re remaking the entire game in that level of quality, it’s not possible to fit it all into a single game.”

The latest Famitsu has some other tidbits, including the fact that development on the game is actually being assisted by other companies, like CyberConnect2. Despite this, CyberConnect2 is very different in terms of production style to Square Enix, so Nomura wasn’t happy with the direction of the gameplay trailer – so he changed it to be closer to their own style. Coming from this, they’re both working closely together.

Final Fantasy VII Remake is in development for PlayStation 4.

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116 comments
  1. AnarKreig
    AnarKreig
    December 7, 2015 at 7:31 am

    What I got from this: “We need money, so we’ll be charging you multiple times for the same game!”

  2. Heavily Augmented
    Heavily Augmented
    December 7, 2015 at 7:32 am

    [Insert Tidus laugh]

  3. DarkChaplain
    DarkChaplain
    December 7, 2015 at 7:32 am

    Looking forward to paying 60-70 bucks per piece, every year or two, for a reimagined FFVII that gives Barret sunglasses for no good reason and tries to be a third person action game…

  4. Meinos Kaen
    Meinos Kaen
    December 7, 2015 at 7:33 am

    The thing about it being too big for a single game -at least one that has a human amount of development time- is true. We don’t know all the details yet… So, my thoughts are as follow.

    If the FFVIIRemake is episodic AND download only and split into a dozens of episodes? Fuck it. I’ll wait until all of it comes out, because that’s a clear sign that they just want granola.

    If it’s still disc based and split into a reasonable amount of games, like 3 or 4? Then okay, I’ll buy them. I mean, they could release it all on multiple disks all at once, but can you imagine THE PRICE of that thing?! And the development time it’d need?!

  5. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    December 7, 2015 at 7:34 am

    Be prepared for FFVII,FFVII X-2,FFVII X-3.And then FF fanboys say we bash the ip when SE keep doing retarded things.

  6. Sergio Nacher Fernández
    Sergio Nacher Fernández
    December 7, 2015 at 7:35 am

    I don’t care about this thing, Squeenix. Bring FF6 to Steam already!

  7. Kamen Rider Mike
    Kamen Rider Mike
    December 7, 2015 at 7:38 am

    This guy^

  8. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    December 7, 2015 at 7:39 am

    Must be a SE PR guy.

  9. Richard
    Richard
    December 7, 2015 at 7:50 am

    Why Squenix, Why… (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡╯︵ ┻━┻

  10. Meinos Kaen
    Meinos Kaen
    December 7, 2015 at 7:51 am

    Nah. I was a guy who thankfully lives in a timezone that allowed me to process this before everyone else. lol

  11. AzureNova
    AzureNova
    December 7, 2015 at 7:58 am

    So essentially we could be paying over $200 for this multi part bullshit depending on how many “Titles” there are. That’s what this practically is if they decide to price each “Title” at $60.

    So to everyone thinking that these are different games, they aren’t, and you’re wrong. The original FFVII was expanded over three disks that we paid only ONE price for. These aren’t three totally separate and different games like XIII was. This is literally just making us pay for physical media. Welp, everyone wanted a FFVII Remake, and here it is lol -_-

  12. Kamen Rider Mike
    Kamen Rider Mike
    December 7, 2015 at 7:58 am

    Indeed xDDD

  13. Meinos Kaen
    Meinos Kaen
    December 7, 2015 at 8:00 am

    Well, actually, if they’re collaborating with CyberConnect2… *looks at the Hack series*

  14. kate bate mate
    kate bate mate
    December 7, 2015 at 8:01 am

    …if it’s just episodic, I’m actually okay with it?

    If it’s chopped up and DLC-ized that’ll be some hot bullshit.

    But I don’t know, I could be into it being in Episodes, or Disks or whatever.

  15. EdgyDude
    EdgyDude
    December 7, 2015 at 8:15 am

    If this thing is episodic I’ll wait for the disc release. If there isn’t one, well, fuck’em.

  16. landlock
    landlock
    December 7, 2015 at 8:22 am

    I don’t mind. that should mean we get our hands on the first part sooner which is good. If the whole game is the same quality as the trailer then it’s going to be a hell of a great ride.

  17. Arenegeth
    Arenegeth
    December 7, 2015 at 8:36 am

    Bollocks.

    They just want to sell you the game multiple times, either because of greed or incompetence. Oh and they want to guilt you if you care to complain about it, by claiming the game is too big (apparently SE never heard of XCX) and they’d have to cut it in order to release it in one package, because expanding development time for a year or two, so you can release the whole thing (assuming each release will be a year or less apart), is an unfathomable concept.

    Welcome to the episodic JRPG experience everybody! Leave your money and childhood memories at the door!

  18. PenguinPlayer
    PenguinPlayer
    December 7, 2015 at 8:39 am

    Maybe it will be okay if it’s as massive as they say. Maybe it would be cool if the separated it in three parts like the original game. Maybe I would have bought into it.

    But honestly after that gameplay video and the combat having nothing to do with the original, I am not feeling it. At all.

  19. PenguinPlayer
    PenguinPlayer
    December 7, 2015 at 8:41 am

    Barret with sunglasses and that dialog makes me worried. Him and Cid are my favorite FFVII characters and I just know Squeenix will fuck them up.

  20. MusouTensei
    MusouTensei
    December 7, 2015 at 8:47 am

    I have to see how it actually works out, sounds like a FFXIII situation but the line that each will be its own experience bothers me.
    If it’s download only though they can go fuck themself to death.

  21. vonSanneck
    vonSanneck
    December 7, 2015 at 8:49 am

    Jim Sterling called it. He did.

  22. uncle_alfred
    uncle_alfred
    December 7, 2015 at 9:03 am

    Game development is hard, please understand and buy our game(s).

  23. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 9:05 am

    Honestly I suspect they’re killing a few birds with one stone with this. For one they may have been batting this idea back and forth then started to sweat when people began whining that FF7s dated battle system was getting the boot. It is entirely likely that they will publish episode 1 as a test to see how many people will actually buy an FF7 remake in the first place considering the unbridled tidal wave of bitching that ensued from people after the gameplay trailer. I will be buying the first episode in the hopes that others will do the same to avoid the remake being shit canned before it’s finished. Second, yes ultimately this will be more profitable than releasing as a single game, I don’t like it but I understand it with how much it costs to make a triple A game these days, especially with how long they’ve spent developing ff15 and whatnot. And finally third for all the bitching this is bound to cause, it does get the game in our hands faster than it would be there otherwise.

  24. uncle_alfred
    uncle_alfred
    December 7, 2015 at 9:11 am

    It gets you PART of the game faster.

    And i always shake my head in confusion as to why people defend corporations that only want to squeeze more money out of people, “please understand they are doing it because it is more profitable, and development is hard”, meaning “we can squeeze more money out of you you suckers!”.

  25. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 9:14 am

    eh, to be fair, episodic gaming is nothing new, at least not in japan. The first Episodic JRPGs released date back to the famicom, they just never came state side because of the lack of an american internet peripheral and initial skepticism about the american reception of JRPGs. And while admittedly this may not be to your taste, it’s actually a much more involved process to create a triple A JRPG than it ever was in the past, not doing it this way would mean we’d get it half a decade from now after everyone’s already decided it was just vaporware.

  26. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 9:15 am

    you know they’d just release the ugly as sin IoS version.

  27. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 9:17 am

    Because everyone else is being a little bitch, as a programmer and game developer, I understand that you’re all being little bitches. So I back the people who are not being little bitches.

  28. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    December 7, 2015 at 9:23 am

    I don’t think the episodic format can work for a RPG. Do you limit the story? How about the levelling – can you level up until you are overleveled for the next episode or is there a level limit?

    This is one of the strangest decisions I’ve seen in the gaming industry.

  29. uncle_alfred
    uncle_alfred
    December 7, 2015 at 9:28 am

    Yeah, those damn little bitches that don’t want to pay for a product that was released ONCE almost two decades ago, and FF VII was enormously huge game for its times too, and they didn’t had to release it in parts.
    So yeah, if i am little bitch only because i don’t want to be taken advantage of, then yeah, call people that as many times as you need, just because some don’t want to kneel before money grubbing overlords.

  30. Arenegeth
    Arenegeth
    December 7, 2015 at 9:35 am

    Well we also got games like Trails in the Sky and the .hack series which one could call episodic, though the format is debatable.

    Thing is, neither of those apply to a remake of an existing RPG that you could play right now, and always could since 1997.

    Though you probably right, that the whole game would take too long to complete like it was the case with Versus XIII, but you know what? Why SE keeps announcing games too early and then makes us wait years or it? Are they mentally deficient? Wait until the game is a year away from release and then start hyping it like everybody else does.

  31. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 9:37 am

    Yes, they are mentally deficient, Nomura is retarded, but we try not to talk about it.

  32. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 9:41 am

    as someone who’s played a few episodic games, typically there is a levelling cap if there’s carry over, but it’s really not so bad, just sorta makes you hype for the next episode.

  33. Sergio Nacher Fernández
    Sergio Nacher Fernández
    December 7, 2015 at 9:44 am

    That would be depressing as fuck. I mean, seriously, putting more attention on an average, yet overrated and overhyped game rather than an actually stellar one? What kind of logic is that?

  34. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 9:45 am

    eh, I dunno, I think it would be cool if they used the tech demo from back in the day as a basis for a remake. But FF7 is the money maker here, that’s just kind of how it is.

  35. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 9:53 am

    yeah, you are, now that we’ve established that, let me tell you why, do you remember when FF Agito 13 was announced? It’s still not out yet, it’s going to be fairly large but I guarantee you it still won’t be as big as FF7 was simply because of the additional time that has to be put into world building, detailing environments, and otherwise fleshing out the world. Not only that they have no basis to work with for most of the models because the entirety of the environment of the original was done in prerendered images. Essentially they have a workload exponentially larger than they did with the original and if they don’t do it this way you won’t see this game for at least half a decade because games do not magically shit out of the computer when you type what you want into it. Development times for a triple A quality title have multiplied, not just increased since FF7 was originally released and it was still 4 years in development back then. You are essentially complaining about them having to live up to the expectations of millions of fans and doing their best, but acknowledging that the task before them is massive even by modern standards, because you cannot get it through your thick skull that it actually takes fucking time to make a video game and if they don’t capitalize on the hype they have now in some way they’re going to lose more money than they stand to make.

  36. John Smith
    John Smith
    December 7, 2015 at 10:00 am

    I’m just waiting for the inevitable new and social justice approved Tifa to be revealed

  37. landlock
    landlock
    December 7, 2015 at 10:08 am

    Considering some of the costumes you could wear in Lightning Returns I doubt it.

  38. landlock
    landlock
    December 7, 2015 at 10:09 am

    You can pretty much over level with any RPG even if it’s not episodic if you grind. I think it’ll be multiple games rather then multiple episodes.

  39. landlock
    landlock
    December 7, 2015 at 10:10 am

    Or you could just wait until there all out a buy the retail edition like EVERY other episodic game if they do it that way.

  40. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 10:11 am

    if everyone did that do you think they’d release an episode 2?

  41. landlock
    landlock
    December 7, 2015 at 10:12 am

    everybody won’t do that will they because the majority of people are fine with downloadable games nowadays.

  42. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 10:13 am

    well yeah, I’m just saying, I’ll be buying it before the entire release anyway, because chances are we’re looking at a huge amount of time before the entire thing is released, the original took 4 years in development, the dev time of triple A games has increased exponentially since then so I don’t think we’ll be getting a collection any time soon.

  43. landlock
    landlock
    December 7, 2015 at 10:15 am

    Personally I reckon they’ll be multiple retail games anyway FFVII, FFVII-2 etc rather then digital anyway.

  44. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    December 7, 2015 at 10:16 am

    My point was that after clearing that episode you can do nothing but grind and may ruin your experience for the next episode. They can be smart and adopt the difficulty of the next episode based on level.

    Multiple games might make a bit more sense, but the episodic format seems immersion breaking to me. Especially for a remaster where the story is known.

  45. uncle_alfred
    uncle_alfred
    December 7, 2015 at 10:28 am

    I though you could smack your hammer on keyboard to make games, thanks for explanation dude! Real eye opener.
    And i don’t remember anything about agito, isn’t that mobile game? And wasn’t XIII agito renamed into type 0 now that i googled it?
    And all that wall of text, as far as i see, is wall of excuses and what you earlier called bitching. If it takes a long time to develop games, then develop it for as long as it takes, i am simple consumer, not their friend, why should i care about whether their work is hard or not, i don’t give a fuck, the end game is they want my money, and i want products i am interested in. If something is not to my liking, like chopping up a remake of a classic game multiple times to sell it, devs can squeal in agony while having to code in fucking volcano for all i care, the end game is that i see their product as something not valuable, and not worth buying. And maybe if video games budgets in triple ayy business were not so overblown on marketing, maybe then we could have the game faster, were that money spend on some staff that actually, you know, makes games, eh?
    But yeah i know, you are gonna reply that they would not sell as many copies.
    To which i could only reply, i don’t care, i just want good games, and hopefully in an environment where i don’t fell being ripped of every damn second.

  46. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 10:28 am

    sorry, I meant Versus 13 which is now 15, also, without marketing you might as well not even make the game because no one will buy it if they haven’t heard about it. Selling on word of mouth can only take you so far.

  47. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    December 7, 2015 at 10:29 am

    “It gets a part of the game in your hands faster” actually it gets all of it in our hands faster. It’d be enough harder, more time consuming and more expensive to make as one big project that it would come out WAY later than the last part of an episodic release as they’d have to make everything fit, reduce quality and rely on profits from other projects to fund the whole thing

    And there’s a difference between “this is literally the only way this is financially viable” and “lol we gonna rip u off EA style”. It’s obvious they’re planning to make this game absolutely enormous, filled with tons of details and things to do, etc. It’s really not as if they could afford to just make it outright with the long development cycles of a lot of their games and the fact that FF15 still isn’t out. Where’s the money gonna come from?

  48. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 10:30 am

    Anyway, in closing, your attitude is why you actually are better off not buying it, you don’t deserve it, because you’re a spoiled brat who doesn’t give a shit about what actually goes into making your toys you just want them now regardless of how dumb that sounds.

  49. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    December 7, 2015 at 10:31 am

    90% of this site is like that, though for different reasons. I’d just learn to ignore it if I were you

  50. uncle_alfred
    uncle_alfred
    December 7, 2015 at 10:36 am

    I don’t want them now, hell, i don’t care if they release it now, in 2016, or in damn 2018.
    I just think that chopping up a remake of a damn classic that people whined for, for years, is nothing more than simple cash grabbing. May they develop it for as long as they can, just release it proper, to hell with their pre order hype culture, and to hell with that “we are gonna sell you one game multiple times” attitude.

  51. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    December 7, 2015 at 10:38 am

    I’m gonna put this more bluntly because the other guy is skirting around it for some reason. If they didn’t do it this way the game would probably simply never come out, or be a crappy, graphically updated but otherwise exactly the same port of the original version

    Square aren’t Microsoft they can’t magically pull billions of dollars out of an endless bank account in their ass to fund enormous, expensive development projects alongside their main games just for the sake of pleasing angry fanboys

  52. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 10:42 am

    well that’s the thing, they risk the game being mistaken for vaporware if they don’t handle it this way because they announced it way too fucking early, sad fact is this is their best option given how ridiculously long they take developing a new title. Part of this is because their fan base expects each new entry to be mind blowing. I can’t say that’s an inherently bad thing but it can make business decisions tough when you have a reputation for pushing the envelope and a game that basically made your brand name in it’s heyday to remake. There’s so much riding on this that they have to take their time and make it as good as it can be so it’s less like “can we get this done in 3 years” and more like “can we get something in people’s hands to avoid a lynch mob now that we’ve announced this.” Otherwise I’d say the most conservative estimate of a project this scope by todays triple a development times and the number of people on the team is easily close to a decade. And that’s entering the territory of making or breaking your release.

  53. OSad
    OSad
    December 7, 2015 at 10:45 am

    I don’t enjoy the idea of CyberConnect2 working on it because they’ve really seem to have given up on the .hack franchise. But the game being episodic is understandable enough as long as they keep the number of episodes down to something reasonable. I guess it all depends on how much they’ll charge for each episode and how good they’ll be quality-wise.

    I mean, the devs themselves said in one of the first interviews for this game that they feel like they’re getting too old to keep doing this, so there’s no way there’ll be an onslaught of releases on this title.

  54. Jack Ripper
    Jack Ripper
    December 7, 2015 at 10:54 am

    What happened to the good ol’ days of just producing multiple discs? 3 Disc story for the win.

    Fuck this multiple title crap model. It’s just more penny pinching from the developers.

  55. uncle_alfred
    uncle_alfred
    December 7, 2015 at 10:57 am

    If it were any other developer maybe i could understand it, and even then, it’s not like SE is some small studio, are not they biggest publisher/developer or whatever in japan after BANDAI?
    How long has FF 15 been in development? From where i stand, SE is just terrible at managing their projects, and if they are too big for them, it’s their problem that they are trying to bite more than they can chew.
    For all i care, let them release it in episodes, i just won’t buy it, classic FF7 is still gonna exist, but other people certainly will, and then lets just hope that the whole episodic release thing won’t become a norm later on, and not because project was just too complex or too expensive to fund, but because some publisher decided to be even more greedy.

  56. Brimfyre
    Brimfyre
    December 7, 2015 at 11:00 am

    This should give CC2 a lot of money, which they can put back into .hack development.

    I’ll be really surprised if we don’t see a PS VR .hack game at some point.

  57. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    December 7, 2015 at 11:01 am

    Classic FF7 is also episodic, hilariously enough. It’s literally on 3 separate discs. They just came in the same box together. Proving that even back then, Square could in fact not develop FF7 as one big game

    So if they release a full version and you still won’t buy it, then i’ll be questioning your reasoning. Not wanting to buy it in chunks is fine but no reason to complain, the reasons for it are pretty clear even if you don’t like it

  58. Jumanji Joe
    Jumanji Joe
    December 7, 2015 at 11:07 am

    Programming must be your side job seeing as corporate apologist is your main career.

  59. Jumanji Joe
    Jumanji Joe
    December 7, 2015 at 11:10 am

    FF7 had one long development time. The limited space on ps1 disc was the reason the game was split on three discs. That doesn’t count as episodic.

  60. uncle_alfred
    uncle_alfred
    December 7, 2015 at 11:13 am

    Then i guess i should have bought my copy of GTA 5 for 420 dollars(no pun intended) since it came on seven discs. Lucky ps3 and ps4 users, they had their ones on only one Blu ray disc, so they would get it cheaper, huh.
    It’s on 3 discs only because CD-ROM discs shockingly have limited space while the game was huge, and third disc was literally just final dungeon and some overworld as far as i remember. Baldurs gate, diablo 2 and lot of other games were also on multiple cds, does it mean that dev actually packed up multiple games in there?
    You know what other media have story chopped up in chapters/episodes, yet their don’t try to charge for each one but sell you the whole package.
    Books.

  61. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 11:13 am

    Being realistic about the development time of a triple A game and how quickly the tide can turn against a game that takes way too long to finish isn’t being an apologist, it’s just common sense.

  62. Vampok
    Vampok
    December 7, 2015 at 11:18 am

    Everyone should just chill out until we know the specifics. We have no idea how many parts it will be, where the divisions will be, how much each part will cost, whether each part will get a physical release or how much time will be between releases. There’s no sense jumping to conclusions; for all we know it’ll be 2 $30 physical discs, split into the original disc 1 and disc 2+3, which would be fine.

  63. uncle_alfred
    uncle_alfred
    December 7, 2015 at 11:20 am

    I wish i could have been this optimistic.

  64. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    December 7, 2015 at 11:25 am

    Really? Books? Those things where series come out in several different books and you have to buy all of them to experience the whole story? That was your example? C’mon

  65. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    December 7, 2015 at 11:26 am

    Oh but it does because my point was that the game has ALWAYS been broken into smaller parts. Thus meaning that complaining about that isn’t valid. Complaints become valid if and only if they never releases a collected version of the remake. If they do, it becomes basically exactly the same as the original version, with the smaller chunks just being for impatient people and funding the development

  66. koreawut
    koreawut
    December 7, 2015 at 11:28 am

    Yeah but .hack was a horrible, atrocious and egregious affair, one that provided very limited content. I don’t play to 100% but most games of this nature took, and still take me around 20-40+ hours to play. I’m currently 10 hours into Final Fantasy Type 0 and I have only just completed the second mission.

    .hack? I beat the first game in less than 10 hours. On the IGN boards I called out the reviewer and then I was lambasted with the idea that .hack “isn’t a game for carebear retards”.

    Has CyberConnect2 done anything worthwhile, or is it all just a waste of money?

  67. uncle_alfred
    uncle_alfred
    December 7, 2015 at 11:33 am

    Yet most of them are self contained in itself, and sequel does comes out as another story, unless it is a trash written for teenagers or housewives. LoTR excluded.
    But i guess you really could compare the aaa gaming right now to the likes of the hunger games or twilight.

  68. koreawut
    koreawut
    December 7, 2015 at 11:34 am

    Or…

    A Song of Ice and Fire (AKA Game of Thrones)
    Shannara series
    The Wheel of Time
    Mistborn

    Or pretty much a hefty portion of the fantasy market these days. Can you be less stupid? It will be easier for you to forget this nonsense in the future.

  69. koreawut
    koreawut
    December 7, 2015 at 11:38 am

    Tifa? Her biggest change might be some kind of comment that they are real, they hurt her back and aren’t for men to stare at…

  70. TiamatNM
    TiamatNM
    December 7, 2015 at 11:41 am

    Nice pic of Cloud’s scrawny arm

  71. Meinos Kaen
    Meinos Kaen
    December 7, 2015 at 11:41 am

    Well, you’re not a carebear retard but you’re very much in the minority of not liking .Hack. I loved that series, and hearing you only got 10 hours out of it while I got around 40 (if not more, been a few years) out of just Infection is very strange to me. And no matter your feelings on the game, it was objectively very good.

    CyberConnect2 has also done pretty much all the Naruto fighting games, plenty of which are very solid, and has the licence for the Jojo Games. They did All Star Battle and are now releasing Eyes of Heaven. Also, they developed Asura’s Wrath, if you ever played that. Also a good game.

    But anyway, CyberConnect2 is only going to help in regards to the making FF7 a multirelease thing. You don’t have to worry about content because… It’s already there? You know, remake. And Nomura also said that they’re going to add more in this version. So that’s not exactly a worry as long as you liked Final Fantasy 7 to begin with.

  72. uncle_alfred
    uncle_alfred
    December 7, 2015 at 11:42 am

    To be honest, most of fantasy book market is not worth a damn. But when something is written properly, it’s damn good.
    I will agree though, that analogy to books was a poor one, as i meant that they don’t charge you multiple times for one book just because it has chapters or could have multiple stories in it.
    But yeah, it has terrible series that milk itself with many iterations of itself, just like video game market has terrible games which are trying to milk itself similarly, such coincidence.

  73. koreawut
    koreawut
    December 7, 2015 at 11:48 am

    I recall the argument of the 100%ers was that some of the game’s awards come from random drops of something like 1% on the highest level enemy. How could I possibly have played through the game to the fullest if I hadn’t killed the same enemy a few thousand times? Well, I say poo to that. That isn’t content and it’s not interesting.

    At any rate, if the remake ends up being extended (even if KOTR is shortened or skippable), then I imagine I’ll be both fine with an eventual complete release and irate over the price for chopping it into pieces. If they can find a decent stopping point, though, that will lessen my annoyance.

    Oh yes, I will buy it and play it. I will also, likely, buy any special edition available in the Asian region (or US region for that matter, both options are typically available where I live). I mean, loads of people will probably buy Surge or Crystal Pepsi if it returns for a limited time, right?

  74. epy
    epy
    December 7, 2015 at 11:52 am

    So now its not only taking away game content and sell as dlc, they’re splitting a game into multiple games and then selling content they took away and sell it as dlc as well. The future!

  75. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    December 7, 2015 at 11:53 am

    Will the special edition have lube included?

  76. deadeye
    deadeye
    December 7, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    Yeah, something as major as a pair of sunglasses just completely ruins a character.

    Even if they kept his personality and character intact, those sunglasses just ruin everything.

    Pre-order cancelled, boycotting Square for life

  77. deadeye
    deadeye
    December 7, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    I’m gonna wait until I know how big each part is and how much they cost before I go on a cynical and completely baseless rant and condemning Square for saying there’s going to be more than one game.

    This could be good. This could be bad. We have no idea.

    I love how the FF7 remake has brought back my favorite internet past time of people talking shit about a game as if they have played it and are experts on it, when in reality, we know extremely little.

  78. Rumble Red
    Rumble Red
    December 7, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    I guess they used the name “Compilation of Final Fantasy VII” too soon.

  79. Sakurai
    Sakurai
    December 7, 2015 at 12:10 pm

    >CC2 is helping with development

    Ah, so this explains why there are multiple parts :^)

  80. deadeye
    deadeye
    December 7, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    If it’s “we’re chopping the game up because fuck you” then that’s obviously bad. But nothing they really said gave me that impression. Yeah, you can say people lie, but then you might as well not trust any statement at all from anyone ever.

    If it’s them wanting to flesh out the story, perhaps flesh out secondary characters, and they need multiple games to accomplish this, then fine. If each part is like a 20-30 hour game that has a satisfying beginning and ending, then I have no qualms with that.

    I look at the Trails in the Sky games, and it has a story spread across multiple games, but each one is satisfying in it’s own right.

    Square knows this is their fans most beloved game, and I would think they wouldn’t go the “we’re gonna chop the game up” route.

  81. Cy
    Cy
    December 7, 2015 at 12:22 pm

    Because this worked so well for Star Craft 2.

  82. Mighty No. 56008
    Mighty No. 56008
    December 7, 2015 at 12:33 pm

    I’m sorry that’s the way you see it, but as a consumer I rarely care what happens behind the scenes. The money we pay for the games you make? That’s supposed to compensate for all the work that’s involved. So I’m sorry if I don’t have empathy when devs or publishers talk about “how hard it is to make a game”, and then go fill our game with microtransactions or unnecessary DLCs.

    Also I find it ironic you calling people “little bitches” with that attitude of yours, but whatever.

    With that said though, episodic releases aren’t necessarily bad. There are a lot of merits for doing it as others have already mentioned, and as long as the price is right I don’t see a real issue with it. But if there is any price gouging, I’ll be picking up my pitchfork and joining the mob.

  83. Dewey Defeats Truman
    Dewey Defeats Truman
    December 7, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    It’s amazing how the more I hear about this remake the less I want to play it. And I’m not even a big RPG guy so I wasn’t exactly personally invested in it to begin with.

  84. deadeye
    deadeye
    December 7, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    They also haven’t said it’s “episodic”, they’ve just said there’s going to be multiple games.

    We really don’t know what this means exactly, so any speculation is meaningless.

    It’s also worth noting that not all games have microtransactions and overpriced, unnecessary DLC.

  85. John Tesh
    John Tesh
    December 7, 2015 at 12:44 pm

    Everybody chill out until it’s too late and they’re asking people to pay $180 to complete the remake of ONE game.

  86. deadeye
    deadeye
    December 7, 2015 at 12:51 pm

    Oh, you know this for a fact?

  87. John Tesh
    John Tesh
    December 7, 2015 at 12:52 pm

    How’s Fez 2 coming along?

  88. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    December 7, 2015 at 12:53 pm

    This abomination just keeps getting worse and worse. I’m ready for the world map to be butchered or outright removed. People that want this will be lucky if it’s less than $100 total.

  89. deadeye
    deadeye
    December 7, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    They could be doing it like FFXII or XV where it’s just one continuous world and no “overworld”. Which would be better.

    I dunno, I haven’t heard any bad news about this game so far. This bit of news is basically meaningless without any accompanying statement of how many games there will be, what will be in each of them, and how much they’ll cost.

    People are immediately assuming they’re just hacking FF7 up into pieces and charging full price for each, but nothing was said that supports that.

    It’s pretty clear this is not a 1:1 remake of FF7, and as such, they could very well be expanding on the game and fleshing out certain story elements and characters.

  90. Mighty No. 56008
    Mighty No. 56008
    December 7, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    Well yeah, exactly. It’s just like with the battle system, we gotta wait and see before we can fully judge.

    And of course not all games are filled with silly “extras” you need to pay for. Just like how not all programmers and game developers are jerks ;)

  91. Mighty No. 56008
    Mighty No. 56008
    December 7, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    It’s a pretty weak argument though.

    As uncle_alfred mentioned, there are other examples of games that have been released onto multiple dics due to technical limitations.

    And of course the game was “broken into smaller parts” in order for a smoother transition between discs. Also having twists and cliffhangers in a middle of a story? Not exactly uncommon for storytelling.

    Point is that “multiple discs” doesn’t automatically equate to “episodic”.

  92. John Tesh
    John Tesh
    December 7, 2015 at 1:07 pm

    Unlike most people, I don’t mind episodic games, but a remake of a classic turned episodic(or even split in 2) is just asking for scrutiny and skepticism.

    This is the same company that considered the Tomb Raider reboot a failure for selling a million copies. They also juggled 2 needless XIII sequels while developing 15 and KH3. They’ll probably have spent well over 200 million on game development for unreleased games before FF15 comes out. Then you factor in all the preorder/deluxe/day1DLC $100-150 editions for AAA that’s the current trend and can you really blame people for being skeptical?

    This is a story that people will want to re-play and see the story to the end, and it seems like they’re banking on that to rake in more than $60 per person. End of story.

  93. John Tesh
    John Tesh
    December 7, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    I know it’s a good possibility.

  94. deadeye
    deadeye
    December 7, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    There’s just as much possibility of it not happening.

    When was the last time a developer remade a game, chopped it up into pieces, and sold each for $60? If that has happened before, I’m unaware of it.

    Also, how do you know there will be 3 parts? Just because FF7 has 3 disks? It could be two parts. It could be four parts. No one knows. I very much doubt this is a 1:1 remake (as already shown by the battle system), so I think it’s a good possibility that they are expanding on the story, and could be fleshing out certain characters.

    Even if they did charge $60 for each one, if each is a full featured 20-30 hour game with a satisfying story, then I don’t see how that wouldn’t be fair.

  95. John Tesh
    John Tesh
    December 7, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    “Even if they did…” – so you were always going to defend this, no matter what. In fact, it sounds like what you want. You want everything dragged out and additional sidequests so you can play Final Fantasy 7 until the sun burns out – and you’ll pay a premium for it.

  96. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    December 7, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    I’m not assuming they’re charging full price for each, I’m assuming the game will be more than $60 total for every combined piece. This entire segmented game news screams cash grab.

  97. deadeye
    deadeye
    December 7, 2015 at 2:07 pm

    We’ll just have to see. You’re assuming they’re just transposing FF7’s story verbatim and hacking it apart. In all likelihood, they’re expanding and fleshing things out.

  98. Jumanji Joe
    Jumanji Joe
    December 7, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    A ps1 era game having to be put on multiple discs because of limited space doesn’t make it episodic. FF7 was a single large game developed all at once and released as one game. Taking the remake and braking it down in to chunks to sell individually at full price doesn’t even compare to the original release. Stop trying to justify greedy corporate decisions with your mental gymnastics.

  99. Jumanji Joe
    Jumanji Joe
    December 7, 2015 at 2:17 pm

    “Being realistic about the development time” Stop pretending you have any idea what’s going with the games development.

  100. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    December 7, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    And as I explained in my other comments, it isn’t greed. Like it or not, the game isn’t happening any other way without making a much worse game to account for budget limitations (Square aren’t exactly raking in CoD numbers and their games take forever to make). Spending a decade or so making this into one whole game simply isn’t going to be viable unless FF15 somehow rakes in enough money to fund this game’s development and leave them enough for every other project they need to work on in the long amount of time it’ll take to make

    You people aren’t thinking because you’re so blinded by fear of anything other than the traditional business model. There’s a reason they haven’t decided to remake FF7 sooner. They pretty much needed a different business model for it to be even remotely financially viable to make the game they want to make instead of just making the crappy, dated old version nice and shiny so nostalgia fanboys can be happy

  101. inquisitormcsagington
    inquisitormcsagington
    December 7, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    Wow-I didn’t know Don Matrick got a job at Square….

  102. Mighty No. 56008
    Mighty No. 56008
    December 7, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    “You people aren’t thinking because you’re so blinded by fear of anything
    other than the traditional business model. There’s a reason they
    haven’t decided to remake FF7 sooner. They pretty much needed a
    different business model for it to be even remotely financially viable
    to make the game they want to make instead of just making the crappy,
    dated old version nice and shiny so nostalgia fanboys can be happy”

    Again, I think most of us don’t care about “business models” or what goes into a game. You can try and justify what’s happening now by pointing it out, but in the end of the day a cash grab is still a cash grab. With that said though, we still don’t know all of the details (even with the latest update) so it’s far too early to go around with that accusation.

    “And you’re completing misinterpreting my point about the old version.
    The point is that whining about the mere fact that it’s split up is
    invalid because it always was. Therefore all that’s left is whining
    about the business model. Which is a complaint that’s been pretty well
    dismantled by me and the other commenter”

    And you’re completely missing the point that the game was split up for different reasons (technical limitations). The fact you even point out that they’ll probably split it up for “business reasons” just enforces that fact.

  103. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    December 7, 2015 at 3:47 pm

    You’re missing the point again. The point of the comparison was ONLY to highlight the fact that the mere act of breaking FF7 up into pieces isn’t in any way shape or form a problem (since some comments seem to suggest that it is) since it was always broken up into parts. That’s it. The reason doesn’t matter. Do you get it now?

    And it’s not a cash grab if it’s necessary for the game to actually be made. Personally i’d rather pay more for a good game than pay less for a shiny looking version of a horribly aged old one. If all you want is a better looking FF7 play the Steam or PS4 ports of the PSX version

  104. Para-Medic
    Para-Medic
    December 7, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    heh.

  105. Mighty No. 56008
    Mighty No. 56008
    December 7, 2015 at 4:34 pm

    And you’re missing my point again. Yeah sure, the mere act of “breaking up FF7” isn’t an issue, but you could really say that with a lot of games. You could technically split Mario up into “worlds” for all I care. But you seem to just ignore the fact that the game was still left together in a single package, as a single game. There was no reason to split the game up, only for techincal limitations.

    As for the merits of releasing the game in chunks, I get it and do think some game benefit from doing it that way, so that’s not really what I’m pointing out. It’s just the fact that you’re trying to back up your points with such a faulty argument.

  106. DarkChaplain
    DarkChaplain
    December 7, 2015 at 4:35 pm

    The odd thing is they gave Barret the tattoos from Advent Children, when he didn’t have those initially. The tattoo he DID have was different and mostly on his shoulder. They added more for AC.
    Funnily enough, he is missing the tattoos in the G-Bike spinoff.

    I’m really worried they’ll turn Barret into a stereotypical cool black dude, when really he was always kinda goofy and chatty.

  107. Amhran
    Amhran
    December 7, 2015 at 5:08 pm

    I don’t see how a world map will work in a multi part game.

  108. Jumanji Joe
    Jumanji Joe
    December 7, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    “it isn’t greed”
    Implying you actually know that

    “The point is that whining about the mere fact that it’s split up is invalid because it always was.”
    FF7 was so big it had to do put on multiple discs. This remake is being split up and sold separately in parts because of greed. You can’t be this dense.

  109. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    December 7, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    There’s literally another article right on the first page saying each part will be the size of a full game. You can’t be this disingenuous. You think they’re selling it in 6 hour CoD size segments of corridors? C’mon

  110. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    I know enough to know that it’s going to take a damned long time to create the game to anything close to the scope of the original, that is enough, and at least it’s better than knowing nothing about anything like you.

  111. Dr.Weird
    Dr.Weird
    December 7, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    Fez 2 was indie shit, it’s development time should have been a year or less given it’s reliance on the same engine, you’re comparing good games to shit games, stop.

  112. Jumanji Joe
    Jumanji Joe
    December 7, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    “There’s literally another article right on the first page saying each part will be the size of a full game. You can’t be this disingenuous.”

    Holy hell, do you believe everything you read? That was a PR spin to counter the backlash from the game being split up. Jesus…..

  113. Jumanji Joe
    Jumanji Joe
    December 7, 2015 at 10:19 pm

    “I know enough”
    You like to say you know things, but you provide no evidence to back your claims.

    “knowing nothing about anything like you.”
    Ebin burn m80 :^]

  114. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    December 8, 2015 at 12:18 am

    Well I mean if they’re lying there’ll be a much bigger backlash so yknow

    Of course I don’t believe everything I read. I think everything you type is utter bullshit so that should be evident

    I’m just choosing to be optimistic. It’s likely that there are valid reasons for FF7’s business model, and everyone screaming “ANYTHING BESIDES A FULL GAME FOR $60 IS CASHGRAB” is simply not thinking because they’re entitled and want everything their own way regardless of whether or not it’s actually financially viable for the people making the game (because like it or not game development is a business and has to make a profit)

  115. Jumanji Joe
    Jumanji Joe
    December 8, 2015 at 9:44 am

    “I think everything you type is utter bullshit”
    You seem to lack common sense seeing as many people in the comments can identify this cash grab for what it is.

    “ANYTHING BESIDES A FULL GAME FOR $60 IS CASHGRAB”
    Nice strawman, scarecrow

    “because like it or not game development is a business and has to make a profit”
    What a good little corporate cheerleader you are.

  116. Danekas89
    Danekas89
    December 8, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    It’s safe to say the VII remake is not a remake but a re-imagining. The only way this can be worthwhile to the consumer is if LOTS of quality extra content (gameplay or story) fills in for the lack whatever they cut, and this will naturally piss off anyone who just wanted an updated version of VII.

    I’m not a FF fan, but I loved Starcraft: Brood War, and I REALLY hated Starcraft 2’s campaigns coming out separately, and that was in a much more fitting genre to do it with while telling an original story. Cutting up a retelling into chunks sounds like a nostalgia scam.