Persona 5 Review – Stealing Your Heart

Persona is a series that can really be a hit or miss with RPG fans. The series is often looked at as either an over hyped dating sim with Pokemon elements by it detractors, or as meaningful and epic sets of stories that dive into the hearts and minds of those experience what it means to grow up in a world constantly spinning out of control. With that said, will this entry into series embolden its detractors or justify its champions?

Persona 5
Publisher: Atlus
Developer: Atlus
Platform: PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4
Release Date: April 4, 2017
Players: 1
Price: $59.99 (Review Copy Received)

This is a review coupled with a supplemental video review. You can watch the video review above, or read the full review of the game below.

Persona 5 has to be the best visual experience I have had in video games, period. It’s almost unreal just how well this game is presented to the player. Even after 160 hours of play time, the game’s visuals are still refreshing and brilliant.

Every aspect of the game from character and Persona design, menu layouts, animations, Metaverse and Palace styles, compositions, color pallet, and overall themes are so tightly tuned and crafted, it would be nearly impossible to find a game that does it better.

One of the best examples of this is how a typical battle is laid out for the player, visually. Animations, character and enemy models, battle menu layout and design dance around each other until the final blow is dealt. You can also get bonus points if you manage to pull off one of the hyper-stylized “All Out Attacks” to end the fight.

If you are looking for visual flaws, this game doesn’t really have them, which is astonishing considering how much time I spent playing the game. Even in large and populated areas, the game smartly fades in character models from shadows, to save processing power. It’s not only a nice trick but it works well with the overall art style.

What really serves to push the visual experience forward, as well as all other aspects of the game, is the overall personality. This serves as the foundation to the game, and the team behind Persona 5 knew exactly what they wanted to make. Any deviation from its core personality, via a poor localization or change in contextual content could have ruined the experience. Luckily, those two things did not happen.

One of the most daunting aspects of the Persona series is the gameplay, and all the paths you can take in it. Persona 5 does a lot to make this massive game more accessible by those who are Persona virgins while not taking anything away from hardcore fans. This mostly comes down to how the game presents information, stats, actions, and equipment. It does so much right in this aspect, it makes the overall gameplay feel like a continuous flowing river you control, rather than some rapids you are being thrown down.

Persona 5 splits the players time between daily activities in the physical world and sprawling adventure in the cognitive one, dubbed the Metaverse. Most of the time, players will be spending much of their time exploring the physical world, learning story details, meeting and building bonds with people you meet in Tokyo as well as your team, and preparing to pull off grand heists within the heart of the Metaverse. During this time, you will also be slowly gaining points toward 5 social stat areas that will help you interact with those around you: kindness, knowledge, guts, charm, and proficiency.

Building bonds not only helps build up story elements, but provides your team with invaluable skills and buffs that you are going to need to complete the game. This process gives meaning to every action you take on multiple levels. Considering you have a limited amount of actions you can take throughout the course of the game, the choices you make are that much more meaningful. Persona 5 is one of the only games that really builds on the story via gameplay and vice versa, which it does impeccably well.

One of the funnest things about the Persona series is building up your own personal army of bad ass Personas via fusions and negotiations. There is nothing like building up that perfect Persona to match your play style, only to then go out and dominate the Metaverse. If you’re more of a collectaholic you can take as much time as you want in the Metaverse collecting and crafting Personas to fill out your compendium. With the visual and style edge that Persona 5 has over other games of this nature, it will be a rewarding experience for new and old fan alike to collect them all.

Combat in general is an extremely gratifying and rewarding experience, bringing a mix of style and substance to the table that most other RPGs can’t even hold a candle to. While very classic and simple in nature, the ability to juggle your opponents, preventing them from even landing a hit on the player by utilizing your team effectively with Personas you crafted is amazingly satisfying.

For those who want even more, you can activate a new game plus option to restart the game, while also giving you access to gear you farmed, money, your Persona list, Social Stats, and a number of other spoiler type things you earned in your first playthrough.

The interlacing style and substance of Persona 5 even coils around and encompasses its soundtrack, which is hands down the catchiest soundtrack of 2017. I’ll go out on a limb and say it’s most likely the catchiest of the last seven years. The sound design in general is equally as good, bringing to life the Metaverse as well as Tokyo.

Voice acting in both English and Japanese is excellent, and well cast for the most part, outside of one instance of a little girl in a Social Link cutscene that made me bust up laughing because of how odd a particular line was. Without going into spoilers, it even plays into the story in a way that threw me for a loop, making it all that more rewarding for savvy players who pay attention to all the details of the game.

Now it’s time to take on the monumental task of telling you how amazing the story of Persona 5 is, without spoiling anything about it. To set the bar, this game single handedly pulled me out of a gaming slump after having to review this and last years “slightly above serviceable” AAA games that no one will care about this same time next year.

The long and short of it is that you are a good Samaritan high schooler who gets wrongfully convicted of assault after you stop an attempted rape. This leads you to be thrown into probation and removed from your city, leaving you in less than ideal position.

Those who have played previous games in the series might be shocked at the contrast of Persona 5’s beginnings versus other games in the series. Persona 5 also breaks the massive game and story into manageable bits as if you are tackling a series that lasts 6 seasons. This provides a nice balance of tension and relief, making the story more rewarding over the course of the game, rather than a consistent sprint to the top.

There is so much detail in every aspect of the story that keen eyed players may pick up on future events, causing them to prepare accordingly. However, there is still enough left to the imagination that players will be twisting and turning along with the story as it progresses, giving a nice blend of the known and unknown.

Every character feels fleshed out to a T, making them not only interesting but human, which is a rare feat for any story. A lot of this has to do with just how well the game is paced in not only the main story, but side stories involving your Social Links and how well crafted the narrative for those are.

This is compounded when you realize that Social Links tie in heavily with major points of the story. Some characters which you might hate at the start of the game can become your favorites by the end, with the feeling like they have really grown through the game. This gives an added sense of accomplishment knowing you were the catalyst that helped make that happen.

Persona 5 is hands down game of the year. Every aspect of the game is not only well designed but well integrated to the point of perfection. I have yet to see a game in my lifetime that does it as well as Persona 5. We almost always see the story as a boat to float the gameplay, or the gameplay as the vehicle in which to drive the story forward in video games, neither of which are the case here.

Persona 5 opts to be a spaceship where every member of the crew is highly skilled and pulls their own weight in order to take the player to another world. Beautiful and masterfully executed, it’s not a question weather you should buy the game, it’s a question of why haven’t you bought the game yet. You will not get a better RPG or gaming experience for quite some time, so do yourself a favor and pick this one up.

Persona 5 was reviewed on PlayStation 4 using a review copy provided by Atlus. You can find additional information about Niche Gamer’s review/ethics policy here.

The Verdict: 10

The Good

  • Amazing personality in every aspect.
  • Beautifully stylized and designed.
  • Well crafted storytelling.
  • Masterful Soundtrack
  • Great localization.
  • Highly detailed characters.
  • Easily 100 plus hours of amazing gameplay.
  • Voice acting is pretty good.

The Bad

  • “Shouldn’t you be going to sleep?”

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  • Chocolate ISISCream

    Another amazing PS4 exclusive that’ll never see the light of day on PC.

  • Personaknight

    Played ps3 version and enjoyed the life sim aspects. Still waiting for one of these sequels to build on Persona 2’s battle gameplay.

  • Fear Me I Am Free

    I agree with this review. It’s one of the best RPGs I’ve played in years.

  • Mr0303

    That good, huh? I’m not a fan of JRPGs, but even I’m tempted to get the game due to its immense stylishness. Right now I don’t have time for a 100+ hour game, but eventually I may add it to my collection.

  • SuuLoliBoob

    What, why didn’t you make another PSA Jordan? Obviously this HAS to be a very controversial opinion, no?

  • Eleven Fold

    Hifumi is the best, fight me

  • Sylveria Shini

    I started getting sick of the combat song after I got in to NG+, thankfully the costume DLC lets you change it to the music of the respective costume you’re wearing, so I did most of my NG+ run with the super catchy Persona 3 combat music.

  • sanic

    Persona games have this weird connection with phases of my life, time to start applying to graduate school and get a decent job instead of being a person in a cage, that’s all for today journal.

  • Syndromic

    Give it a rest already. Geez.

    I have been watching the gameplay footage, I’m not really sold on it honestly. I guess I’m just not into Persona overall.

  • Taylor York

    Makoto best girl. Fight me if you disagree.

  • DGib

    Persona 5 is an amazing game

    But this is one of the shittiest, poorly written reviews that’s ever been written about anything. I hope nobody paid you money for that because god damn man

  • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

    If it’s a PS4 exclusive how come I can play it on a PS3~?

  • BoreOfTheMorning

    ISISCream never shuts up about that. PC ports have puckered that anus harder then any HIV positive inmate.

    As for your comments its all good, I love P5 but the turn based/anime aesthetic isnt for everyone

  • Syndromic

    Nah, I guess I’m just biased. I was introduced to mainline series first, I tend to prefer the grittier series. I hope Atlus really considers developing Shin Megami Tensei into full 3d someday.

  • Fear Me I Am Free

    I didn’t think I would, but I really liked Ann for some reason.

  • Malcolm_Ecks

    BTOW isn’t a 10/10 game. Give it a rest.

  • Ya well eat a dick.

  • RichardGristle

    Finally someone with the proper taste.

  • PSA about localization might happen now to spit you.

  • Tubsiwub

    You gave this a 10? Seriously? This?

    …I agree.

  • DrearierSpider

    I think /pol/ needs to call in an air strike on another ISIS base.

  • DrearierSpider

    My only minor gripes after ~15 hours are the somewhat floaty controls/cover system in palaces.

  • DrearierSpider

    It’s so goddamn refreshing to finally get another top notch turn based jRPG, seemed like most of them died out for a while there.

  • Taiga Gao

    I actually don’t agree with a 10/10.

    Yes, P5 is an amazing game, but sadly it shares the same flaws as all the previous Personas (or well, P3 and P4)

    -A way too long “tutorial”. It’s not until around the 15 hours mark where the game actually opens for you, lets you do whatever you want and stops bringing up tutorials. This, even as a Persona fan is already tiring and annoying, and a borderline nightmare for newcomers.

    -Same battle music for everything except bosses. YOU’LL NEVER SEE IT COMMIIIIIIIIING, I was already vomiting the theme after a few hours and just plain turned the music off after a few more and only turned it back on for bosses. Yes, i know you can technically change the music if you buy the costumes DLC, but still, you basically have to spend more money to solve the problem, and it shouldn’t be like that.

    -Same battle lines for all the characters. Just as with the music, after a few hours you just want to mute the game because it’s just WOAH LOOKING GOOD JOKER! WOAH LOOKING GOOD JOKER! WOAH LOOKING GOOD JOKER! every 2 fucking secs.

    These were easy to forgive back in P3 and even P4, but not for P5. 10 Years later and still dragging the same flaws on is something I can’t look past anymore.

    The game is a 8/10 for me, which is still a great score, but I just can’t honestly give it a 10/10.
    These flaws can look small, but when you notice it’s a 100+ hours game you can tell why listening to the same music and same lines from min 1 to hour 100 is an issue.

  • SuuLoliBoob

    ? Why do i give a shit about that? It’s a 2/10 for all i care since i don’t even 1. own it 2. haven’t played it yet.

    I just don’t like Jordan, or his shitty PSAs

  • DGib

    Scathing.

    Also, the more I read your review the more I know how insufferable you must be to have a real life conversation with. Like, is English your second language? If so then I guess you’re doing pretty good. If not, then I feel sorry for every person who had to have a daily interaction with you.

    Please stop communicating with people on earth, you are not good at it.

  • Taiga Gao

    Did Jordan raped your mom or something?

    Jesus, man.

  • Tubsiwub

    Good thing I like the music then.

  • she’s criminally underrated for sure.
    But the best? She’s a pretty good second-best, tying with Makoto in my book.
    First-best definitely Sadayo tho tbh

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6a5cb019f0f8c8d97747a5cc66d948e68ed0ab28382a9d453bd913e882e23755.png

  • Dago

    The fact that he posted this pretty much guarantees a PC port now.
    I mean, look at all those other times he posted the same and turned out to be wrong, lol.

  • Kiryu

    Like many before him he created an account just to say how shit Nichegamer/MJ is,better to be ignored.

  • Kiryu

    Not a fan of jrpg’s,man you’re missing out on something.

  • catazxy

    Then it’s fine, I wasn’t that big in long turnbased jrpgs either, the repetition of the combat and the lack of story always got to me most of the time, but that’s why Persona games are that popular, they switch between combat and story often enough to keep you engaged, and don’t worry about it being 90-100hours, pretend it’s more like ~50 hours, because you’ll be going so hard on it that you’ll feel like you’ve finished it sooner then most 20-40 hours rpgs.

    My advise is: just try one, don’t think about it that much. It’s a trip you’ll be glad you’ve made.

  • Mr0303

    I know, but they are not a genre I enjoy for various reasons. The story spanning 100+ hours makes me lose interest. Just to be clear RPGs in general are not the sort of games I enjoy.

  • Mr0303

    I’ve played games that may be considered JRPGs (Digimon Cyber Sleuth comes to mind), but most of the time I do not enjoy them. Same goes for regular RPGs – interacting with characters is not what I play games for. I guess my general anti-social nature is manifesting in the choice of games I play.

  • Donwel

    Now I’m the opposite. I tend to enjoy longer games, the majority of my library and backlog consists of RPGs. JRPGs, mainly.

  • Mr0303

    I can understand that. It’s not the playtime that stops me from enjoying said games, since I’ve put hundreds of hours into other singular games, but rather the pace of the story, the grind that’s present and the character interactions that are not to my liking.

  • Donwel

    *spite https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/25da1bb11c57464611fbbfa7a0cd901800d0794aef12cbb688bee15442ac2d82.jpg
    I think you should do it though, the amount of asspain your PSAs bring in never fails to fill me with joy.

  • Uncle Ocelot

    Hifumi, Makoto and Kawakami for me.

  • TylorW

    “Shouldn’t you be going to sleep?”

    *It’s currently 5:23am*

    Shit, they know.

  • Donwel

    Yeah, I can get that. I have played a few grind heavy JRPGs and gotten somewhat bored with them, it seems there’s a sweet spot with grinding that a lot of devs have trouble achieving.
    I get that some character interactions can be ass chafingly cringeworthy as well, which is why, when given the choice, I always switch the voices to Japanese. I’ve been playing Final Fantasy 10 lately and it only has the American VAs, listening to it makes me want to shove knives into my ears. Not that it actually changes the dialogue though (unless you’re playing a NISA/8-4/treehouse “localised” game) but it kinda helps.

  • Xerain

    The cover system stops being important once you’re capable of regenerating SP in dungeons. The shadow AI really isn’t changed much from previous games, once you get down to it. If you’re at 0% alert they’ll still stand there looking around for a few seconds even if you’re right in front of them. Plenty of time to just run around for the back attack, as always.

  • bdp

    >Great localization.

    eh it could have used another look to edit some bits to sound better,

  • Bitterbear

    Mrawr! Growl! Growl! Pffft! That’s dragon for There are worse localizations, you know.

  • Bitterbear

    Do it Treehouse-style.

  • bdp

    i didn’t say it was the worst ever i just said it could have used more work.

  • Don Tworry

    All the waifus are pretty good except for Ohya.

  • Michael Richardson

    SMT was in full 3D as far back as the PS2…

    Also, an SMT game is being developed for Nintendo Switch in Unreal Engine 4.

  • Jumanji Joe

    Nintenyearolds blown the fuck out.

  • Mr0303

    I think that the problem is with my general anti-social attitude (I usually don’t like talking to people), which is kind of an issue with RPGs – you can’t really avoid socialising in those.

  • Kiryu

    Nintoddlers still crying about Zelda not getting a 10.

  • chaoguy

    Actually kind of agree. There was a massive missed opportunity with one of the game’s bosses in terms of thematics & what the game was driving for. But with the absolute dregs this year has been, it’s hard for a reviewer not to praise something that’s done it right for once.

    Reviews either need to be purely from the reviewer’s opinion (like this review) with some consideration for those who don’t agree with some of the stuff the reviewer said (or a smart enough reader who can say “well I disagree with this point, so I might have to adjust my expectations).
    Or as an “analysis” (considering what the game does compared to it’s peers & the “classics”) which might make it very easy to fall into the trap of “If you like _____ you’ll love this!” which isn’t always a fair comparison.
    I still think this is a good review. I would say they could have explained some mechanics a bit more for those who have never played a Persona game, but considering NicheGamer’s target audience, I’m sure everyone here knows how it works (and it’s nothing a quick gameplay vid on youtube can’t solve for everyone else).

  • Michael Richardson

    Not sure if I’m enjoying this more or less than BotW (they’re both wonderful, but very different), but it is undoubtedly the best console JRPG I’ve played since the PS2 era. Also have a new sandbox Mario and Danganronpa to look forward to. This is a terrific year to be a gamer.

  • porkbun

    well if they made it perfect the first time how are they gonna sell you the enhanced version coming in 1-2 years?

  • chaoguy

    In all seriousness, even though you already did an article on the non-troversy cooked up behind Persona’s localization (IIRC)- but an article/opinion piece on when it’s OK to take liberties & not when translating would be fascinating.
    Especially if the example you use proves that the points they were complaining about were all fine.

  • chaoguy

    I agree the review is a bit praise-heavy, but when you start attacking the person it’s safe to say it was never about the review quality.

  • Kiryu

    These people are very easy to see through,never been here and all of the sudden they feel entitled to tell how NG should be.Just take a look at the Zelda review,absolute nobodies appeared in droves.

  • Duce Ralli

    Absolutely Love the game but gotta admit, Noticed a few grammatical and tensing slips.

  • Feniks

    Yeah a 10 would indicate a perfect game and I’ve never played a game, no matter how good, that was perfect. There’s always something that could be even better.

  • Feniks

    I’m playing it with JPN dub and I have to say that the subs are not great. It is Atlus’ first time so I’ll cut them some slack but they need to look at how the Tales of series does it.

    If you’re gonna sub sub everything.

  • Feniks

    I hope he did ;)

  • Bitterbear

    Still pickles better than other half-marinated translations!

  • Kainevil Rc

    Digimon Cyber Sluts can get pretty tiring on a handheld. And this is the problem with a lot of portable console exclusives. Yeah i know it has been recently released on ps4 but my point still stands.

  • Kainevil Rc

    You obviously aren’t a Steam user.

  • Sean Sharpe

    At the end of the day, it’s likely going to share my personal GOTY with Breath of the Wild…

    But it’s got some issues. Not every character is good and there’s a couple I grew to dislike more as I progresses their social link. Ann was someone I actually liked… Until I played her confidant path, which felt like pretty much took a shit in the face of the game’s themes.

    The localization also feels a little inconsistent. When it’s good, it’s really fucking good, but every now and then there’s a slip that feels like a different team handled it. It’s never actually *bad* at any point but sometimes it doesn’t feel as good the rest of Atlus’ work.

    Negotiation also feels a bit more nonsensical that it normally does.

    I mean, still, and 9.5/10 game. But it’s not perfect. Totally something every JRPG fan should pick up, one of the best games of the year, and genuinely a rad game though.

  • Chocolate ISISCream

    Excellent taste. She became my waifu the second she referred to me as “Master.”

  • Chocolate ISISCream

    You sound like an extremely salty pcuck to be honest. Not that Persona 5 would ever come to PC, but if it did, I could see filth like you doing a complete 180 with your opinion. You should stop sitting on a port that will never happen and just pick up a PS4, PS4 Slim or PS4Pro (or wait for a PS5 if it comes out in 2018).

    Seriously though, “I’m not really sold on it honestly.” Nobody asked you, nor does anyone care, and yet you felt the need to post that. You’re way too easy to read.

  • Chocolate ISISCream

    I suppose I meant “Sony” exclusive, but I can’t understand why anyone would get 2017’s GOTY on a weaker system.

  • TylorW

    I just finished Persona 5, and while the game was very damn good, there were three main gripes I had with the game. I’ll do a summarized version of the gripes first, so as to avoid spoilers until you guys give the okay, and to see anyone was interested in a certain gripe and wanted me to elaborate more with possible spoilers (because as you can see, I’m long-winded at times).

    1. Mostly everything pertaining to the main villains in this game were probably the weakest and most predictable part of story (with maybe one exception).

    2. While the soundtrack is pretty good, there were key tracks that felt like they either couldn’t hold a candle to tracks used during the same situation in past titles, or they would’ve fit better elsewhere in P5.

    3. There were a lot less moments of levity (i.e. Mystery Food X in P4) that were found in past titles, and it felt as if there were lot of times the game had the opportunity to put those in but missed out on them.

    Also: Minor gripe, but it felt as if the game was much easier to run than previous titles, but I guess it’s because Trumpeter’s too OP.

  • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

    You mean like how people play The Witcher 3 (amongst all the other multiplatforms) on PS4 instead of PC, the definitive platform for utmost quality~?

    Nah, You meant PS4 because you probably didn’t even know PS3 had the game, somebody with a PC must’ve hurt your feelings hardcore in an argument and you rushed to try and one up them~.

  • Heresy Hammer

    >”nor does anyone care”
    >posts reply anyways
    quality shitpost

  • Chocolate ISISCream

    That’s quite an extraordinary theory you’ve come up with there.

  • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

    Another amazing PS4 exclusive that’ll never see the light of day on PC.” without any kind of provoking from any user? Sorry, it reeks of butthurt~.

  • Chocolate ISISCream

    Suck my dick, faggot.

  • Captain Vidya

    This game made me start appreciating coffee. I hope this doesn’t lead to anything bad happening in the future…

  • Ramza Beoulve

    what cracks me up about persona 5 … is that its actually a very average rpg lol its just people are so used to not seeing any that are at least average, when one actually does, it seems like its the best ever. kind of a sad thought.

  • Ramza Beoulve

    personally, i cant grade it over a 7/10 because the game has a built in cheat menu.

  • Ramza Beoulve

    agreed. botw is probably the most overrated existing creation on the fucking planet. i consider it a wonder, how zelda gets the magnitude of hype it gets.

  • Ramza Beoulve

    yeah sadayo kawakami is pretty good, but alpha males like myself go for the trophy wife, Ann.

  • EinMugenTenshin

    Wait, are you me? Only this can explain the exact same waifu dibs.

  • NintendoNaut

    “No game deserves a 10/10”

    -Michael Jordan

    “Persona 5: 10/10”

    -Michael Jordan

  • EinMugenTenshin

    Why do pandas speak dragon? Shouldn’t you at least learn common bear first, just like everyone else?

  • EinMugenTenshin

    The debate for GOTY this year is going to be savage… Just ignore all them Nintendoids pushing their agenda through BOTW, and we’re ready to sit down with a calm and collected “your waifu is trash” conversation of the next order.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    Can you please add unacceptable overuse of the word “prolly” as a Con? It drove me crazy with how often they say it.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    I think it’s more impressive that it is consistently “okay” to “good” when an average playthrough can be upwards of 100+ hrs

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    The movies and anything on a TV screen is not subbed for some baffling reason.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    On Hard they notice you a lot faster, as far as I’ve seen.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    You should’ve played it in JP then you will never get tired of the dialogue cuz it sounds so good.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    Kawakami.

  • Valwin Mediaz
  • Funtime Happysnacks

    “who? oh ya, her”

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    We need the return of the ability to make airplane and motorcycle noises.

  • Valwin Mediaz

    have more fun with Persona 5 than with Zelda Bland of the wild

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    there are debates and then there are facts

    best waifu of p5 might be debatable

    but best girl being kawakami is a fact

  • Ramza Beoulve

    this is for sure a good goty option but my goty is still going to be RE7 for now, because this and nier automata have those terrible built in cheat menus in the options

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    That’s just how good it is. After your third consecutive sleepless night of playing this game you will feel it too

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    Ever since P3 it feels like Atlus has a hard time giving their characters flaws or dark sides. Everyone on your team in P5 is so squeaky clean morally and have basically never harmed a fly in their lives.

  • Ramza Beoulve

    people here are too spoiler happy.

  • Snorlaxation

    I bought the DLC partly because of the ability to alter the battle music, and while P4 Golden did slightly try its own hand at fixing the problem (regular battle = original battle theme, surprising the enemy = new theme), it really does where thin after a while, even when you love the music, and that’s been an issue from if… all the way to now.

    Also, SHITTY ADULTS ADULTS ROTTEN SHITTY GODDAMN BRATSSSSS.
    Seriously, the heavyhanded themes of only adults being deadbeats is pretty shaky (and annoying to listen to as often as someone -Ryuji- says it) since so many of the Mementos people are people around their own ages, but whatever.
    I think there’s been an issue with this and kingdom hearts, because the dialogue is sounding so off-kilter that you’d think the translators barely new english. Some lines just don’t sound right.

    And while some have complained about the main bosses being flat with no reasons shown to why their evil, I get it. Some people are assholes, with no real reason for it. I do wish they’d given us a boss or two who was trying to do things for the greater good and just had to be an ass to do it, but whatever.

    All of these issues though only knocked off a point or a point and a half at most. 9/10 would be my score.

  • Valwin Mediaz

    leave

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    I would say Tales of games are “average” (i say that as a fan of those games), P5 is gorgeous visually and has nice streamlined gameplay. For a persona or SMT diehard there is nothing not to love, since this game takes every feature of all four prior games and even spinoff stuff, and fuses it together into the same amount of in-game time as them, but lasting twice as long due to the wealth of content and options you have at your disposal.

    The amount of detail and care that went into the game’s aesthetics make it a work of art in my opinion. I’d have a hard time going back to P2 now that’s for sure.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    i once saw someone claim a screenshot of BOTW was a spoiler because link was wearing the hylian shield. like jesus people grow a pair, you are on the internet. consider how generous weebs were not to just spoil the whole endgame 6 months ago.

  • You mean best wife material.

  • Just saw that, most the time i jump in to comments via my phone using voice to text, why most my messages come of slop while Im doing the daily grind in LA. Ill have do legit research for this one, because my knowledge only goes so far on that topic.

  • artemisthemp

    I can’t argue with you despite having Makoto Avatar on PSN and theme on PS4

  • TylorW

    That makes me wonder: Were there people that were actually mad at how P3 turned out? Because it feels like ever since then, Atlus has taken fewer risks with the cast, outside of a few anomalies (like Adachi for example).

    Also: The P3 protag must be feeling a little pissed at how he’s the only one so far out of the MC’s to make the hard call. I wonder if they’ll ever address that.

  • Ramza Beoulve

    or be a decent person and dont spoil things lol what do you have to gain from it exactly, other then looking like a complete idiot?

  • Ramza Beoulve

    eh… modern tales games are below average. they have become immensely stale and rely heavily on style over substance now.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    You are just deliberately preventing yourself from enjoying anything if you need all meals to be caviar and truffles.

    Also don’t trash Vesperia or Xillia I love those games.

  • Feniks

    Yep. Luckily I can piece it together thanks to years of watching anime but it is still sloppy.

  • Uncle Ocelot

    No, it’s just superior tastes.

  • to each their own

  • Personaknight

    I was referring to skill fusion and learning new skills by rank up rather than level up. I mean I wouldn’t mind improvement on the dialogue gameplay because making pacts with demons would be useful in an SMT game.

  • ProxyDoug

    I’m curious, what’s a recent top JRPG to you?

  • ProxyDoug

    I think his mom is called Breath of The Wild.

  • ProxyDoug

    When your game has a trailer showing how good the menus are, you’re probably doing something very right.

  • Valwin Mediaz

    omg the teacher say something GAME SPOIL

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    Wouldn’t surprise me if Persona 6 was older college students and brought back some of the P1/P2 feel of early SMT.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    You’re complaining about the music despite there being like a billion DLC packs that can change the music to anything you want?

  • You can turn Subs on in the settings just so you know.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    I assumed they were only by default since those are the only two things in the game with no subs.

  • Ryan Mahaffey

    Sorry, too busy with Mario Kart right now.

  • thatguyEZ

    It filled me with great satisfaction watching Nintendo fanboy channels talking about how Persona 5 was likely coming to the Switch. At least one video said because P4G was on Vita and thus Switch would get the ‘Golden’ version this/next year. Made me fucking laugh.

  • diru90

    Persona 5 is pretty mediocre. I guess people are so starved for decent JRPGs today, that even something generic gets revered as a 10/10.

    Damn I miss the PS1 days. You kids just dont have a clue…

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    Dude, for real? Blow it out your ass, get off your monumentally high horse.

    Go back to fucking Planescape Torment or whatever and have yourself a gay old time. Nobody here is going to stop you!

  • Suzaku

    “Absolute dregs this year has been”? O.o 2017 has been one of the best years in gaming in a while and it isn’t even half over. It’s been difficult to keep up with all the releases so far and the ones I have played have been amazing.

  • Snorlaxation

    I know what you mean. I just ignored the fact that it was him doing the review and dove into the comments.

  • Snorlaxation

    But it’s optional…!

  • Snorlaxation

    I’ve never liked the style or character looks of most SMT games, but i think a grittier direction could help Persona as well. They had all the makings with P4, but that went in a whole other direction. P2 IS/EP were probably the closest to perfect imo.

  • Snorlaxation

    total agreement. Little things that stand out among the great parts by comparison, and aren’t ruining it, but you can’t help but notice. Some sentences just didn’t sound right, like when Ann asked if MC was as bad as the rumors said. And I read it on another review site, but they were right: Ann from the Social Link is like a whole other character from the Ann during the story.
    A couple other little things bugged, like all this rebelling yet you can’t romance the bros, or Ann escaping sexual assault/harassment and then the guys all being creeps.

    Still, the wait for this game was so worth it, and I’m enjoying all the close calls and exploration I’m doing.

  • Snorlaxation

    I would love that.

  • Ramza Beoulve

    its still a built in cheat menu.

  • Snorlaxation

    Yeah, but I’m pretty sure most people were cheating on at least half of these things anyway, like using gamefaqs or just google for the answers. You can find Google Suggestions with the exact phrasing of quiz or test questions all the way back from P3.

    And it isn’t exactly a Cheat Menu, so much as it is a Share Your Answers Menu. If everyone was putting the wrong answer, that would be the one with the most percentage, and people would assume it’s right, even though it’s not.

  • Ramza Beoulve

    i guess that just further proves how overrated and flawed the game actually is, if it cant even take itse;f seriously :(

  • Snorlaxation

    can’t take itself seriously?? Where are you getting that?
    people look up faqs and tips online for practically all games, if not during the first playthrough then definitely subsequent ones.

    Flawed, most definitely, i can list 4 things that bugged me about the game right now (Morgana and his sleep schedules, Ann getting harrased by Ryuji and Morgana after surviving Kamoshida’s bullshit, not getting to romance dudes in a game about rebelling against crooked and out of date authoritarian thinking, goddamn brats shitty adults blah blah blah), but nothing to knock it below a 9/10.

    And as for overrated, it’s one of the best jrpg’s in recent years for a reason. Catchy music, great battle system, good characters and an enjoyable experience.
    better than p4 golden which was itself incredible, and with Square enix making mistakes as often as it has Persona is now becoming more of a household rpg staple.

    I’m all for keeping things realistic and not swallowing whatever I’m given just because it looks good, but you sound less like a critic and more like a hater

  • Xelioncito

    If his complaint is “it has a cheat menu”…I think you’re wasting your time explaining things. Feels like he just looks for excuses not to enjoy a game.

  • Snorlaxation

    Pretty much!

  • Ramza Beoulve

    sorry but games with built-in cheat options are the very definition of not being able to take itself seriously, and if you get to call me a hater, then i get to call you a blind fanboy

  • Ramza Beoulve

    its a solid 6/7 out of 10, the only reason people are giving it a 10 is because they havent seen a decent jrpg in such a long time, anything will feel like a 10/10 lol

  • Snorlaxation

    I’ve already proven myself to not be blind, I listed the faults I had with the game, and even left out a couple more. Whatever, convo’s over.

  • Ramza Beoulve

    having a builtin cheat mode is pretty much a surgical definition of a game not taking itself seriously lmao, what are you, dense??

    also if you get to call me a “hater”, then i guess that means i get to meaningfully call you a “Blind Fanboy” which is the opposite side of the spectrum.

  • Ramza Beoulve

    so then agree im not a hater. i dont even hate the game, it just turned me off completely that no matter what happens in the game, i know i can just use cheats anytime in the games settings to make the challenge go away.

  • Snorlaxation

    I will agree your not a hater, but honestly, you’re still something.

    Yes, you can use the Thieves Guild feature to see what answers other people chose for school trivia questions during class time (although not during quizzes or tests), and as long as you didn’t choose the Easiest setting during the game (which locks you into it), you change the difficulty settings at any point – which affect exp and money earned as well-. That feature though is pretty common these days for various genres of games though.

    If these sorts of completely optional things bother you to the point that it impacts your enjoyment of the game, then you have my legitimate sympathies.

  • PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS

    It’s fantastic because it stays true to the fantastic formula. But it’s the gamers who popped their Persona cherries with this as an entry who scream “GOTY” that annoy me. (As with P4 Golden.) It hardly does anything new (though it does bring back the missed “monster capturing”). Just a nicer engine and flashier presentation with some arbitrary touches. That’s a good thing. But if the previous titles didn’t come close to getting GOTY awards, what make them think this one will? Because it’s fresh for YOU? Bitches, please… Lol.

  • PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS

    It’s fantastic because it stays true to the fantastic formula. But it’s the gamers who popped their Persona cherries with this as an entry who scream “GOTY” that annoy me. (As with P4 Golden.) It hardly does anything new. (Though it does bring back the missed “monster capturing”). Just a nicer engine and flashier presentation with some arbitrary touches. That’s a good thing. But if the previous titles didn’t come close to getting GOTY awards, what make them think this one will? Because it’s fresh for YOU? Bitches, please… Lol.

  • PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS

    I ‘ve had fun with Persona 5. A lot of fun. But it came and went. Still having fun with BotW.

  • PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS

    Persona 5 is fantastic because it stays true to the franchise’s fantastic formula. But it’s the gamers who popped their Persona cherries with this as an entry who scream “GOTY” that annoy me. (As with P4 Golden.) It hardly does anything new. (Though it does bring back the missed “monster capturing”). Just a nicer engine and flashier presentation with some arbitrary touches. That’s a good thing. But if the previous titles didn’t come close to getting GOTY awards, what make them think this one will? Because it’s fresh for YOU? Bitches, please… Lol.

    edit: I don’t mean you “YOU”. just speaking generally.

  • PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS

    I like how in the first chapter they give you a “due by” date that was clearly reemphasized numerous times throughout the chapter. But the actual date is the day before. So if you waited to complete the mission until the last day (because of the fun you were having taking your time and grinding just for the hell of it), you basically got screwed and had two start back two weeks earlier. About 8 to 10 real hours worth of gameplay down the drain.

  • PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS

    I’d say the oddball Tales of Legendia on PS2 was the last really good one. Maybe Abyss can be thrown in there as well.