Super Mario Odyssey Producer Confirms Toad Isn’t Wearing a Hat, Discusses Mario’s Lack of a Belly-Button

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A new Super Mario Odyssey developer video talk with game producer Yoshiaki Koizumi has the Nintendo boss responding to even more fan questions for the series and its latest iteration.

When asked “is Toad’s head a hat or a head,” Koizumi has finally ended the speculation that came about since the The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 cartoon (where Toad removed the top part of his ‘head’ as if it were a hat).

“So that, as it turns out, is actually Toad’s head,” Koizumi said. “I’m going to have to leave it to all of you to figure out exactly how that works out. Maybe there’s something inside…”

The producer was asked “why does Mario have nipples but no belly button?” by a fan. Unfortunately, the producer somewhat dodged the question.

“Well to be perfectly honest, I didn’t really expect that to be a topic among fans,” he said. “Once I heard that people were talking so much about Mario’s belly button, it made me start to think about whether we should revisit the topic on the design side.”

With Odyssey featuring full-sized humans existing alongside the cartoonish Mario in his regular design, this answer simply raises more questions as to whether or not Mario is human, and what his origins are.

Finally, Koizumi was asked to explain Mario’s relationship with Peach and Pauline, and once again he dodged the question. “I would appreciate it if we could respect the privacy of those three at this time.” He also answered a few questions about the game’s design, as well as some Easter eggs hidden within – these are naturally spoilers so beware.

Super Mario Odyssey is now available for the Nintendo Switch. In case you missed it, you can find our review for the game here (we highly recommend it!).

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  • Mr0303

    The current Mario is obviously a clone.

  • Uncle Ocelot

    Weird, I never assumed it was a hat, since Toads are Mushroom people, of course they’d have Mushroom heads.

  • Xerain

    Mario having no belly button is consistent with the series lore of him being magically delivered by a stork.

  • Travis Touchdown

    >It took thirty years to learn that Toad wasn’t wearing a hat

    Another thirty and maybe Nintendo will confirm that toads aren’t genderless.


    Toad removed his “head” in the og Super Mario Super Show before the Mario 3 toons. Pretty sure it was on more than one occasion too.

  • Dr. Roswell. W

    I assumed that as well. I did always wonder why Yoshi laid eggs though.

  • Matz
  • Bailarina Ninja masoquista

    for the Toad thing: what dumbass thought that was a hat?!

    for the belly button… KEK.

  • Bailarina Ninja masoquista

    but then again, it was an american cartoon made with no involvement of the oroginal creators

  • “I’m going to have to leave it to all of you to figure out exactly how that works out. Maybe there’s something inside…”

    Knowing Toad I doubt it.

  • Makes sense to me.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    I thought that was settled with Toadette and Toadsworth

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing
  • ProxyDoug

    Pff, the mushroom head is clearly an afro.

  • Travis Touchdown
  • Snorlaxation

    I don’t mind the mushroom head, always thought it was cute. But hearing them draw attention to what’s inside it only makes me wanna gag from the images my mind is giving me.

  • Nanashi

    Hmm. I wasn’t working on a theory that perhaps Mario, Luigi, and Peach were all either permutations of the Toad species, or originally were purely Toads but were fed a special diet of special mushrooms that allowed them to take on more human characteristics (with Peach progressing the most due to being the most human-like). It would explain A) why Mario and Luigi have more Toad-like proportions when they don’t have a Super Mushroom power up in the 2D games and 3D World (along with Peach…and Rosalina), where they’d be considered to be in their “normal” form, B) why Peach is the princess of the Mushroom Kingdom despite being a human, and C) why Mario looks so different when compared to actual humans in the Metro Kingdom.

    This information…complicates that theory…