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Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Launches Holiday 2017, New Trailer

Nintendo has announced the release window for Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

The Monolith Soft-produced game will launch sometime this holiday, for Nintendo Switch. Featured above, a new gameplay trailer was released.

Here are some new screenshots:

In the video description of the new trailer, Nintendo gives a description of the game:

Explore an endless ocean of clouds, where the last remnants of civilization live on the backs of colossal beasts called Titans. Experience the story of Rex and his new friend, Pyra, a mysterious being known as a Blade who grants him tremendous power. Together, search for Pyra’s long lost home Elysium, the ultimate paradise for all of humanity. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is coming to Nintendo Switch, Holiday 2017.

First revealed at the Nintendo Switch event in Japan last January, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 features a new cel-shaded art style, and continues the story of its prequel on the Wii.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 launches exclusively for Nintendo Switch later this year.

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237 comments
  1. John Smith
    John Smith
    June 13, 2017 at 12:14 pm

    censorblade chronicles 2

  2. matty
    matty
    June 13, 2017 at 12:20 pm

    Looking forward to seeing this get butchered with “dragon talk.”

  3. CrusaderEsper
    CrusaderEsper
    June 13, 2017 at 12:27 pm

    No way that sword girl’s tits don’t get censored. Well, then again, they are big tits and they didn’t censor any of the huge titties in Xenoblade X.

  4. NukeA6
    NukeA6
    June 13, 2017 at 12:53 pm

    That sword girl has a zohar (from Xenosaga) shape on her chest. That can’t be a coincidence.

  5. Uncle Ocelot
    Uncle Ocelot
    June 13, 2017 at 12:55 pm

    Some OG Xenoblade vibes with this dub, I approve. Hopefully it’s a sign that it’s being done by NoE, less chance of censorship then.

  6. Fear Me I Am Free
    Fear Me I Am Free
    June 13, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    Can’t wait to see how this gets butchered like the last.

  7. GamesGoodMeGood
    GamesGoodMeGood
    June 13, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    Watch the Western censors localizers ruin the female characters.

  8. perfectsword
    perfectsword
    June 13, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    Yeah dude it’ll be fine. If the Definians in XCX made it out OK, I think Blade Chick will be left pretty much alone.

  9. Anonymoose
    Anonymoose
    June 13, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    The designs, the faces in particular, actually look really good this time… How much will they fuck it up and make them look like potatoes in game?

  10. OSad
    OSad
    June 13, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    I want to believe Monolith still cares about Xenosaga but there’s no way this is anything more than a coincidence at this point.

  11. MusouTensei
    MusouTensei
    June 13, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    I want this!

  12. Guest
    Guest
    June 13, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    Am I the only one that hated the voice acting? I couldn’t even focus on what was going on, it was so awful.

  13. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    Based on the actual gameplay they’re showing right now, not at all. Though the lady does look kinda young to be so busty. It’s a bit weird looking.

  14. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 3:28 pm

    I wouldn’t call what happened to X being butchered. That would imply stuff important to gameplay was changed, which wasn’t IIRC. It was just needlessly censored in a few ways.

  15. Ace
    Ace
    June 13, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    Is this a sequel to the first Xenoblade or second one? Or is it just a stand alone?

  16. Nagato
    Nagato
    June 13, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    You just know that ass won’t make it to the Western release without being further covered up.

  17. Ace
    Ace
    June 13, 2017 at 4:05 pm

    Gameplay wasn’t affected at all. They made the underage girl wear more clothes…. So you’re saying that you like underage girls scantily clad? You’re welcome to go look for child porn elsewhere if you want.

  18. Marc Duarte
    Marc Duarte
    June 13, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    Once I heard those Western VAs, whose performance was devoid of most emotion, I had to turn the volume down. My brain automatically rejects anime characters that don’t speak Japanese. It doesn’t matter to me how good of a job they do on the English dub, I’ll still reject it regardless. (I don’t want to hear my waifus speaking English, because that means hearing nothing but mature women talking – even for loli characters. This is why I consider English dubs to be inferior.)

  19. Fear Me I Am Free
    Fear Me I Am Free
    June 13, 2017 at 4:09 pm

    Yeah, that wasn’t the only thing censored dumbass. There are a lot of religious references taken out for no reason.

  20. Marc Duarte
    Marc Duarte
    June 13, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    Why does it matter to you what we look at in our games? If you don’t like certain content, then don’t buy games that have it, very simple.

    And there’s no such thing as anime child porn; that label only applies to real-world children, while those in a game are not given such protections since they’re nothing more than artistic works and mere property of the respective owners/creators.

  21. sanic
    sanic
    June 13, 2017 at 4:18 pm

    “It’s reyn time means I love you in xenoblade XDDD frogs are racist”

  22. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    “Needlessly censored”. You know, like I was implying it was unnecessary and not a good choice? Perhaps you turned your brain off.

    If they had removed the character and replaced her with someone else, then that’s butchered. If they completely altered the story because of her, then that’s butchered. But a buster slider and her boobs being changed is not butchered. Bad and dumb? Sure, but let’s not get into hyperbole.

    You guys continue to disappoint.

  23. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    Also, for more nitpicking: I never said that gameplay is the only thing that matters. I was talking in the context of what a butchering was, so that’s not even 2 circles on the sheet.

  24. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 4:39 pm

    You chose to speech police Fear Me I Am Free. To a lot of people any censorship is butchering the product. The rest of your argument was apologetics.

  25. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    Calling it bad and dumb isn’t apologetics. Do you keep missing this?

    Also, it’s more debating than some dumb concept like “speech police”. I’m free to disagree with how he used a word.

  26. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    That circle encompasses apologetics for changes other than gameplay so you earned it.

  27. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 4:42 pm

    Again, not apologetics. Do you know what that term even means? Bad is bad. I’m debating the level of how bad it is, which is STILL BAD.

  28. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 4:45 pm

    No, I’m not missing that. You are just opposed to calling it butchered because the changes seem insignificant for you. I used the bingo to demonstrate how similar your argument is to people who defend censorship.

  29. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    I do know what it means and you arguing that because the changes could be worse people shouldn’t call it butchered is exactly that.

  30. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    The problem is that none of that similarity matters when, in the end, I do not generally agree with censorship. The exceptions to this disagreement being obvious shit like legit child porn and the like.

  31. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 4:50 pm

    No, because it’s not a defense. We are free, and should be free, to discuss the relativity of “bad” without criticism so long as we can acknowledge that it is still bad. Otherwise, it is truly petty squabbling.

  32. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 4:56 pm

    Does my reply somehow limit your freedom to discuss it? Also your demand for no criticism of your position is ludicrous.

  33. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    Actually it does matter, since it is due to the similarity that I posted the chart. If you are worried that the chart misrepresents your position on censorship feel free to read the title as “Butchering Apologist Bingo”.

  34. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    It’s a silly accusation based on “your standards aren’t exactly like mine” mentality. The fact that you thought to post the bingo card seals it.

    And yes, discussing the relativity of how “bad” is should be free from criticism, because it’s based on one’s personal views. It can’t be wrong, just disagreed with. And if you disagree, then tell why. Otherwise, you’re just talking about nothing. Discourse, not some dumb bingo card, is important.

  35. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:00 pm

    No, it doesn’t and never will. It’s petty.

  36. magicalfollower
    magicalfollower
    June 13, 2017 at 5:04 pm

    Will Treehouse be localizing this one?
    God, i hope not.

  37. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 5:05 pm

    “It’s a silly accusation based on “your standards aren’t exactly like mine” mentality.” – but that’s exactly what you did with your initial reply to Fear Me I Am Free. Your disagreement was based on standards and so is mine. Unless you are saying that you should be the only one allowed to do it.

    “And yes, discussing the relativity of how “bad” is should be free from criticism, because it’s based on one’s personal views.” – that’s insane and nobody will comply to that demand. Criticising personal views is part of the discourse you so desire and believe it or not the bingo card is also part of it, despite your feelings towards it.

  38. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 5:07 pm

    An image speaks a thousand words. With a single picture I demonstrated how your argument was similar to the apologetics. You not accepting it is a whole different matter.

  39. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    Criticizing personal views without explanation will never work. Even if you do, it’s hard to make the other budge. I prefer to just state the reasons for disagreement, rather than saying anyone’s actually wrong because that has an actual chance of fucking doing anything. Hence my viewpoint.

    My “demand” is simple, but people like to just get angry over what amounts to nothing.

  40. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:09 pm

    An image with a profound message speaks many words. A meme speaks only a couple, and that’s what that card amounts to. And those words are meaningless.

  41. Glyth
    Glyth
    June 13, 2017 at 5:12 pm

    The UK channel says english only, and that’s especially bad considering how poor this dub sounds. No dua audio also makes me think it’s noa and not noe localizing, so…

  42. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 5:19 pm

    It seems you are the only one who missed the meaning here.

  43. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    What, that I’m somehow “very similar” to the other side? Like that’s a bad thing? Hahahahahahahahahaha. We’re humans, so by nature we’re in essence “very similar” to each other. Both “SJWs” and Gamergate are extremely similar in attitude and even methodology at times. Their goals are what are different, as well as why they believe what they do. Who cares? It’s only important to know what you’re fighting for, and to do so in a civil manner.

  44. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 5:24 pm

    OK, but my post didn’t say that you were wrong. It pointed out that your arguments were similar to those of the censorship apologists. I assumed it was pretty clear without needing an extra explanation, but here it is since you requested it.

    “My “demand” is simple, but people like to just get angry over what amounts to nothing.” – what are you talking about? Who’s getting angry?

  45. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    And? Similarity means nothing. Your enemy consists of other people, which you will find are likely pretty similar to you. It doesn’t mean jack shit.

    Not you, goofball. Other people. People on both sides.

  46. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 5:29 pm

    “Like that’s a bad thing?” – yes, it is a bad thing when you use the same fallacies.

    “We’re humans, so by nature we’re in essence “very similar” to each other.” – and that is not an excuse for using the same easily debunked arguments.

    If a method/tactic is wrong it doesn’t matter which side is using it.

  47. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:31 pm

    Debunked? Last time I checked, we were debating opinions about what butchering means. Boyo, opinions are VERY subjective. Debunking isn’t what happens to opinions.

  48. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    “Similarity means nothing.” – yes it does in this case. The point of the bingo is that those are easily debunkable arguments that censorship apologists use. The point is not that you are similar to them, but that you use the same arguments, which are fallacious.

    “Not you, goofball. Other people. People on both sides.” – petty insults. It seems you are the one who’s angry. Not very civil of you. So what does people getting angry has anything to do with what we’re talking about?

  49. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:34 pm

    We are not armies. We don’t harm or kill, generally speaking. We don’t do anything that objectionable. There is no fear in being similar, and there shouldn’t be.

    And goofball isn’t really an insult at this point. Kinda being said in jest. Not sure who would actually take that as a real jab…

    And people getting angry means people doing stupid shit. Which, you know, it bad. Arguments should be civil and logical. Anger has no place there.

  50. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 5:35 pm

    It’s the argument that’s debunked, not your opinion.

  51. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    “We are not armies. We don’t harm or kill, generally speaking. We don’t
    do anything that objectionable. There is no fear in being similar, and there shouldn’t be.” – did you read what I wrote above? I’ll repeat it again – “The point is not that you are similar to them, but that you use the same arguments, which are fallacious.”

    “And goofball isn’t really an insult at this point. Kinda being said in jest. Not sure who would actually take that as a real jab…” – oh, I see because you just don’t define it as insult I shouldn’t take it as one. How generous of you.

    “And people getting angry means people doing stupid shit. Which, you
    know, it bad. Arguments should be civil and logical. Anger has no place
    there.” – OK, I never suggested otherwise.

  52. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    The argument I made wasn’t though. Nothing I said was objectively wrong about the definition of butchered. Hell, he didn’t even provide a definition. He just used the word. I merely disagreed. Even said “I wouldn’t call it butchered”, citing disagreement based on that context.

  53. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:42 pm

    But the arguments I used are fine, given I gave the context of “I wouldn’t call it butchered”. If it was the same as theirs, then I would say “you are wrong”, which I explicitly didn’t say. Please reread.

    If you took it as a serious insult, then I apologize. Everyone I know and everytime I used it, absolutely no one took it seriously. Goof is a very silly word, after all.

    And it was an aside, dude. I’m allowed those. Kinda why I spaced it separately. Just lamenting.

  54. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 5:44 pm

    He didn’t need to provide a definition of every word he uses. That’s absurd.

    And the context that you used is what’s referred in the image. Just because the gameplay wasn’t altered this doesn’t mean that he can’t call it butchered. Now that I’ve spelt it out does it make it clear?

  55. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:46 pm

    Did I explicitly call him wrong? I just said how I would use the word. This is a free speech forum of sorts. Just expressing my thoughts. I thought this was clear from the beginning. Perhaps this was some misunderstanding?

  56. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 5:51 pm

    “But the arguments I used are fine, given I gave the context of “I wouldn’t call it butchered”. If it was the same as theirs, then I would say “you are wrong”, which I explicitly didn’t say.” – that is so contrived. You don’t need to say “you are wrong” for your reasoning to be fallacious. It was the equivalent of saying “I wouldn’t call an ice cream cold, because liquid nitrogen exists”.

    “If you took it as a serious insult, then I apologize.” – accepted.

    “And it was an aside, dude. I’m allowed those. Kinda why I spaced it separately. Just lamenting.” – OK. The weather today was very nice.

  57. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 5:52 pm

    “Just expressing my thoughts.” – and I was expressing mine.

  58. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    Yeah, and there are 100% no fallacies my initial argument, my dude. Because it is just my view on the word.

  59. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    Yes, there are according to my view on the world.

  60. InkViper
    InkViper
    June 13, 2017 at 5:55 pm

    How many pro-censorship Cucks are gonna turn up I wonder, can’t wait to read through the comments to see all the fucking censorship apologists try and justify the bullshit Nintendo of America have pulled on the previous Xenoblade game!?

  61. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:55 pm

    I even gave further context in this exact argument. I prefer just civil disagreements. Accept this mistake. It happens, and you are no worse for it. Shit happens.

    I gave my reasons for using the term butchering, and since it’s not used literally, then any standard of bad is fine. I gave mine, and they are consistent and fine.

    The weather is nice. I like rainy weather more, though. Overcast clouds are relaxing.

  62. John Smith
    John Smith
    June 13, 2017 at 5:56 pm

    There are a few already working their way to a censorship bingo

  63. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 5:57 pm

    You’re free to think that, but you would have to completely redraft your complaints. Your initial interpretation was wrong, and I never called him wrong nor meant to imply that. This requires a new argument on your end.

  64. InkViper
    InkViper
    June 13, 2017 at 6:00 pm

    Not a coincidence, but a deliberate note to the fan base.

  65. GameZard
    GameZard
    June 13, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    Nintendo’s and Microsoft’s E3 beats Sony’s shitty conference. Sony fanboys are on suicide watch.

  66. GameZard
    GameZard
    June 13, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    Oh the feminist is back.

  67. InkViper
    InkViper
    June 13, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    LOL… Seriously dude don’t give them fucking ideas please.

  68. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    Didn’t you recently say it was a “shame” I had to take a leave? I came back for you, my dude.

  69. InkViper
    InkViper
    June 13, 2017 at 6:04 pm

    Yes I’ve just seeing that.

  70. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    It doesn’t require a new argument and I’ll do no such thing. Pointing out the similarities to what you said with censorship apologetics remains as valid as ever.

  71. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Well, it kinda doesn’t.

    First, I stated my definition of butchered as having had gameplay cut from it. I consider story content being changed as a part of that, as clarified later.

    I stated a disagreement. The logic behind my disagreement is consistent in context with the “why”. You said I was making fallacies, but that doesn’t really apply to what I initially said, not does it? Because fallacies are when you’re trying to argue against someone and saying they’re wrong. I did no such thing.

  72. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    “I prefer just civil disagreements.” – your preference doesn’t really matter, doubly so when you resorted to insults.

    “I gave my reasons for using the term butchering, and since it’s not used
    literally, then any standard of bad is fine. I gave mine, and they are
    consistent and fine.” – not in my view and thus I responded with the image.

  73. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    Well, you say resorted, but you know that I never intended to insult you. I can’t resort to something that’s a misunderstanding. I apologized for that misunderstanding, but don’t assume that I intended it. Because I did not.

    No, you responded to that image because you thought I was telling him that he was wrong for using that word. I provided my interpretation of the word. It does not work anymore.

  74. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    “I can’t resort to something that’s a misunderstanding. I apologized for
    that misunderstanding, but don’t assume that I intended it. Because I
    did not.” – that’s considering that I take you at your word and accept that you didn’t intend it. It is absolutely possible that you slipped up, insulted me and took it back when I called you out on it.

    “No, you responded to that image because you thought I was telling him that he was wrong for using that word.” – so you are a mind reader now? I didn’t think that you were telling him that he was wrong. I noticed the similarity of your argument to the apologetics and posted the image.

  75. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    Yeah, but it’s the context that’s wrong and thus a fallacy – false equivalence to be specific. You don’t need to call somebody wrong to commit a logical fallacy.

  76. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    Well, you’re free to assume I wished to actually belittle you. I did not, and had no issue saying sorry. It’s a sad state of affairs for discussion that would make you think that in the first place. If I wanted to insult you, I would just do it.

    You posted this “He doesn’t need to provide the definition of the word he uses”, and said I was speech policing him(which is literally not what I was doing), as if I thought he needed to. I did not, but was just pointing out that I provided my definition right out. Not only that, the use of the term fallacy implies I wished to prove him wrong. I wasn’t arguing against his use, but merely providing mine. There is no fallacy in that.

  77. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    You need to make an argument to commit one. I posted my definition. Are you speech policing me?

  78. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    “You need to make an argument to commit one.” – no, you don’t.

    “I posted my definition.” – and I pointed out via the image why your definition is fallacious.

    “Are you speech policing me?” – not really.

  79. NukeA6
    NukeA6
    June 13, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    I’m not expecting anymore than a reference to the old games. Even Xenosaga did the same with Xenogears. How ever, in my headcanon, gears begins when saga ends and blade is right in the end.

  80. InkViper
    InkViper
    June 13, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    So I’m going to preface this with I could be totally wrong, but I hope I’m not.
    Several things I noticed in the trailer, which may indicate this game will not be censored.
    1.The female characters are obviously scantily clad, might make it difficult for them to backtrack later on, if changes are implemented, as every think has already been demoed and shown.
    2. The English voiceover has a mixed cast, main character is from the north of the UK, another male character seems to have a Scottish accent, and another female character also seems to have a slight Scottish accent as well! Showing the cast is from a large pool of talent, not the same old anime VO artists we’ve become use to, this might indicate localization might have been handled by NOE.
    3. 8-4 confirmed via a twitter that they have nothing to do with localization, which is a good thing as they usually work in tandem with NOA.
    4. The VO work that has already been shown comes across a lot more formal in its grammatical structure, this might indicate that the translation is contextually accurate to the original material,(although someone will have to do a double check between the English and Japanese trailers, to confirm if this is correct,)
    5. This is probably the most important factor, switch is region free, why risk censoring the western release of the title when people can simply import or download from the Japanese E shop, losing and affecting sales for western territories!
    6.You also have the practice of games being released in Asian territories such as Hong Kong, which usually have Japanese audio tracks but also carry English subs.

    Okay this is me being optimistic based on things that I’ve observed, which may indicate that the little shit bags at NOA haven’t got there grubby little hands on the title. Well his hoping so anyway.

  81. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    You are literally saying “your definition of the word is wrong” right now, without proving it. Fallacies are for incorrect arguments. You are speech policing me. How the hell do you dig this far down?

  82. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    Pointing out that your definition is wrong is not speech policing you. Behold:

    fallacy – A fallacy is the use of invalid or otherwise faulty reasoning, or “wrong moves” in the construction of an argument.

    Nowhere in that definition does it say that your argument has to be against a person.

  83. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    OK, what part of this definition is faulty:

    Butchering of a game: removal of gameplay elements, which includes story elements.

    Where’s the fault? It’s a subjective term, in this context. So you must acknowledge this in your criticism. You’re saying that I’m using it wrong, but have not once proven that.

  84. RichardGristle
    RichardGristle
    June 13, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    We’re about to see some real next-level censorship. Censorship the likes of which the world never thought possible.

  85. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    “Well, you’re free to assume I wished to actually belittle you. I did

    not, and had no issue saying sorry. It’s a sad state of affairs for
    discussion that would make you think that in the first place.” – it’s your general demeanour that prevents me from giving you the benefit of the doubt.

    “If I wanted to insult you, I would just do it.” – you did do it. Multiple times in fact, but I accepted your apology, so It’s OK.

    You were trying to speech police him. In your first reply to my post you said “let’s not get into hyperbole.”.

    “Not only that, the use of the term fallacy implies I wished to prove him wrong.” – no, it doesn’t. You don’t need to argue with somebody for you to commit a fallacy.

    ” I wasn’t arguing against his use, but merely providing mine.” – and in response to your definition I posted an image ridiculing its basis.

  86. RichardGristle
    RichardGristle
    June 13, 2017 at 6:45 pm

    And here’s 1 cuck.

    Time to scroll down and look for more!

  87. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    But I need to have something provably wrong, which I did not. You posted the bingo card, but that’s in regards to retorts towards arguments. It does not work here, as it wasn’t a retort against him.

  88. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    I’m saying that you are using the term “fallacy” wrong.

    I’m not saying that your personal definition of butchered is invalid. I pointed out with the image how emphasising only gameplay or story to call something butchered is not a good argument (fallacious) to show my disagreement with your definition.

  89. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    But it wasn’t an argument. My definition was just that: A definition. I wasn’t using it as an argument. So where’s the relevance to a fallacy? I merely personally disagreed with his definition, but that’s the end.

  90. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 6:55 pm

    I can use an image in whatever way I see fit, including to point out similarities to what you said to the arguments represented there.

  91. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    But what I said wasn’t an argument, but merely a simple disagreement at worst. So it’s kinda irrelevant. If I posted a definition of “Kinda bad”, which is not as bad as “very bad”, then by your logic, you could post that card. But then you look like you’re just posting it at random.

  92. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    You said you wouldn’t call it butchered because “That would imply stuff important to gameplay was changed”. That’s an argument. You are basing your position of why you wouldn’t call it butchered.

  93. magicalfollower
    magicalfollower
    June 13, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    I agree with Nintendo Spotlight being better than Sony’s conference. No doubts about that.

    But Microsoft? The only things that caught my eye was the new DBZ game and CodeVein. But then again, all of those are multi-plat.

  94. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    Indeed, and it was 100% factual. See, a fallacy must be mistaken, wrong, or faulty. But all of what I said was correct. I wouldn’t use butchered for what happened, because my definition consists of exactly that. I said I disagreed. I stated why. My definition fits within the context of the statement. So it cannot be a fallacy.

    Instead, I would need to say he’s wrong. Or that my definition is the only one. Because for everything subjective, one must set a baseline. Because there are other terms to describe how bad something is.

  95. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    “But what I said wasn’t an argument, but merely a simple disagreement at worst.” – it actually was an argument.

    If Fear Me I Am Free said that he found the changes “very bad” and you responded with your “definition” of “very bad”, then yes, I would’ve been justified to post it.

  96. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    No, because “very bad” means different things for us. And I pointed out that it was just what I thought. Can you prove what I thought was wrong?

  97. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    I never said your thoughts were wrong, just your reasoning.

  98. Claire Rieveldt
    Claire Rieveldt
    June 13, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    I can’t ignore that the main lead looks 12, yet has a voice of a middle aged man. Plus, I honestly thought this was Tales game rumored for the Switch, until it was the sequel for Xenoblade. The art style looks almost similar. However, knowing Nintendo, it will be censored heavily.

  99. RichardGristle
    RichardGristle
    June 13, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    I thought MS was the best, but that’s because all their shit is also on PC. As far as actual exclusives, yeah it’s hard to argue that Nintendo didn’t have the best lineup. Not much that interested me personally, but objectively I think people will be happiest with them.

  100. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    But my reasoning wasn’t. Your card didn’t deal with that, bro.

  101. chaoguy
    chaoguy
    June 13, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    It’s not just the acting- it’s the choices of voice.
    The protag sounds much older than he looks, everyone is an accent from the British isles (+ Australian) making the American female protag feel out of place.

    Bad voices + bad acting (or bad directing which is more likely) makes it sloppy.
    And this shit wouldn’t fly in a western cartoon/game Marc. It’s just that bad VA work is synonyms with Jap originated english dubs.

  102. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    I fundamentally disagree with your definition, because it uses a false equivalence. It suggests that because you discriminate between what is changed you wouldn’t use it.

    “Instead, I would need to say he’s wrong. Or that my definition is the only one.” – no, you don’t need to say any of that for me to disagree with the basis of your definition and to post the image demonstrating why I don’t agree with your thought process.

  103. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    Again, everyone has different baselines for where “bad” starts. Butchered is not the last on the list of terms(going from less to most bad). Thus, I gave a definition for what criteria fits with it. I don’t think you’re used to arguing subjective topics.

  104. le master trole
    le master trole
    June 13, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    They backtracked with TMS just fine after showing kowashitai-chan’s vagina bones in trailers.

  105. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    Yes it was and yes it did.

  106. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    Anything comparative uses that kinda equivalence. None are wrong, as the person must come up with a consistent standard on their own, through their own experience. Just like kinda bad is “not as bad” as very bad.

    Of course I discriminate about the importance of features. They are not all equal, and that’s acceptable and not a freaking fallacy. My standards are not yours, and no one’s are objectively correct. But that’s why I called it “my” definition and not “the” definition.

  107. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    “Again, everyone has different baselines for where “bad” starts.
    Butchered is not the last on the list of terms(going from less to most
    bad). Thus, I gave a definition for what criteria fits with it. ” – and I disagreed with your definition and illustrated why with the image.

    “I don’t think you’re used to arguing subjective topics.” – how very condescending of you.

  108. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    Already proven why it doesn’t.

  109. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    Well, you’re trying to apply some sort of objectivity in this, it seems. You seem inexperienced based on that.

    You can assume whatever you want. But you keep going in circles with this.

  110. tccboss
    tccboss
    June 13, 2017 at 7:23 pm

    I want to be excited but I know they are going to censor the fuck out of this.

  111. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    “Of course I discriminate about the importance of features. They are not
    all equal, and that’s acceptable and not a freaking fallacy. My
    standards are not yours, and no one’s are objectively correct. But
    that’s why I called it “my” definition and not “the” definition.” – here’s the point with that. Similar to how censorship apologists say that it’s censored only if the gameplay is affected your definition stated that it’s butchered only if the gameplay it affected. I disagree with that line of thinking and pointed it out via the image.

  112. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    Already proved why it does.

  113. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    No, I’m not. I’m explaining why I posted an image that triggered you.

  114. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    No, you only really posted the image and cried fallacy. But see, there’s a threshold people don’t want to talk about when they use those arguments. And if you ask them, they will dodge the question.

    Bust changes don’t encroach on the gameplay, generally speaking. Pointless, yes, and there are exceptions(such people pointing out how busty someone is while said character has been made to be flat). It’s bad, but I’m free to reserve butchered for something more in depth. Like, say, a race change(from white to black, for example), because then the character as they are in the world and story is completely changed. How they are referred to changes. Even their role could be made to change. And that’s where it affects me, the player, and my experience in the game. And you might argue “what if they make a lot of little changes?”, and I would say the same. At some point, the world has truly changed from all the changes. And it’s something I always have an eye on.

    This is not true for everyone, but it doesn’t need to be. There’s nothing wrong with that.

  115. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:32 pm

    No, you merely have shown why you disagree. But that’s not “correct” or “wrong”, which you’re trying to assert.

  116. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:33 pm

    Trigger? I’m having fun. I always have fun with stuff like this.

  117. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    “No, you only really posted the image and cried fallacy.” – I just explained my reasoning as to why I posted the image in great detail. You not acknowledging my explanation is your problem.

  118. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    Yeah, this is why you resorted to insults. Unless you are having fun insulting people.

  119. Fenrir007
    Fenrir007
    June 13, 2017 at 7:40 pm

    Thank god for the undub!

  120. Fenrir007
    Fenrir007
    June 13, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    Can you start on monday?

  121. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    “No, you merely have shown why you disagree. ” – and that was my goal. The “correct” and “wrong” terms are something you brought into the discussion.

  122. Fenrir007
    Fenrir007
    June 13, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    Even worse than the needless censorship was the absense of the japanese audio, which thankfully could be fixed with an undub, but we won’t be so lucky this time (since no CFW will exist that soon for the Switch). I hope they don’t butcher this title as well.

  123. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    I did. You said it was a fallacy because it is based on a poor argument. I demonstrated that, no, it’s not based on a poor argument. At least, not in the terms of a fallacy.

  124. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    I mean, I do have fun insulting people when I mean to. But, as I’ve said, I did not mean to insult you. Unless you can prove I did?

  125. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    Uh, a fallacy must be something “wrong”. You’ve said why you think it might be, but not that it definitely is. Fallacies are absolute.

  126. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    How about your initial response to my image? “Perhaps you turned your brain off.” and “You guys continue to disappoint.”. I’d say those are pretty unambiguous, but since you like civil discussion you probably didn’t mean those as insults either.

  127. InkViper
    InkViper
    June 13, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    They backtracked on a lot of blood things in that game! And they paid dearly with the commercial failure of it.

  128. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    Being disappointed is fine? I mean, that’s hardly even mean. And that was a legitimate question, because you just randomly posted an image when I wasn’t defending censorship(if I was, I would not have called it needless). No context, nothing. It looked like a shitpost, and I don’t respect those. You then elaborated, so it no longer applies.

  129. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    Yes, they are. And I showed why and how I think your definition is fallacious.

  130. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    Saying you are disappointed in a person is demeaning him.

    “And that was a legitimate question” – aha. Sure it was. Yeah, you totally thought my brain flew out of my head.

    “You then elaborated, so it no longer applies.” – it doesn’t change your initial reaction to the post, where you insulted me and possibly all the people in this forum. I’d say that’s a pretty triggered response.

  131. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 8:13 pm

    “Similar to how censorship apologists say that it’s censored only if the
    gameplay is affected your definition stated that it’s butchered only if
    the gameplay it affected”
    Except these two conclusions are not the same, my dude. What is considered butchered and what is considered censored are two different conclusions. Not even getting into what I consider has breached into my “gameplay”(should have asked), you are close to a false equivalence in of this statement.

    To clarify: Censorship is a bit murky, but we know the general gist of what makes it up. Changes made to a game based on “morally objectionable content”. Never argued something in the game wasn’t censored, obviously.

    To clarify what I feel is butchered, and what isn’t, can’t exactly be compared to the arguments against censored content. I’m not saying that the game isn’t censored. I’m describing how censored the game is by creating a criteria, but it’s still censored. And not all content changed is equal.

    I am not saying the game is or isn’t censored, as it’s obvious it was. I’m saying how censored it was, and that’s something everyone decides on their own. In essence, my statement isn’t “this is/isn’t X”, but that “this is Y levels of X”. Differing statements.

  132. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    You didn’t. I specifically explained the similarities and you continue to refuse to acknowledge them.

  133. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    Well, I wasn’t mad. I was asking. And I don’t really care how you feel about that. It looked like a shitpost, and you left it like that. Context matters. The discussion hadn’t really begun until past that, as you posited nothing.

  134. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    Because the similarities don’t matter when the statements or arguments are different subjects. Again, it was not a “this is X”, but “this is Y levels of X”.

  135. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    “Similarities don’t matter because I said so!”. Of course they are different subjects – if it was the same subject it would be identical and not similar.

  136. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    “Well, I wasn’t mad.” – sure, you just calmly insulted people.

  137. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 8:26 pm

    A better way to put it would be it doesn’t matter because, in the end, I am still acknowledging censorship and that it is bad. “This is X”. But I differ on the levels of censorship “This is Y levels of X”, while still acknowledging that it is censored. This is not false equivalence, as they are not “equal” subjects, and anyone knows this.

    Saying it was “just a little content” means different things in those two contexts. One is an argument that it doesn’t matter(the “It’s not censorship” argument people make). Mine is a part of a criteria to describe an already confirmed subject. So now I’m “measuring” it.

  138. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    Have you not?

    In weirder contexts: Have you not even called your friends insults? I don’t do that, but plenty of the people I work with do. It happens, and seems normal even.

  139. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    “Have you not?” – sure, but given the context I don’t believe this was the case for you.

  140. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    You’re free to think what you wish, bucko.

  141. Marc Duarte
    Marc Duarte
    June 13, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    One of my biggest issues with Western VAs is that they don’t have the ability/talent to produce anything other than mature-sounding voices. This flaw easily becomes apparent with the young/loli characters who are supposed to sound the way they do for a reason. Replacing their immature voice type with a mature one alters their personality and traits, which messes up the whole dynamic of the party. I find such a practice unacceptable because I believe it destroys the original work.

  142. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    June 13, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    Yes, I am.

  143. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 13, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    Indeed.

  144. Anon630
    Anon630
    June 13, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    I’m not buying another JRPG until it’s a 1-1 reflection of the original product. I’m tired of feminist SJW censored bullshit.

  145. AsatorPrime
    AsatorPrime
    June 13, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    This series is getting too anime for me.

  146. chaoguy
    chaoguy
    June 13, 2017 at 10:11 pm

    I’d put it down to bad directing/hiring then bad VA work. You don’t hire a tuba to play alto. Women acted as young men on stage, and female VAs are often used for boys. And (while poorly acted) dub anime has shown us western VA’s can at least get their voice that high.

    It seems like western games/animation can get decent VA work, but the second it’s anime it’s the same bad habits from the 90s. And I suspect some cliques affecting who is hired where.

  147. chaoguy
    chaoguy
    June 13, 2017 at 10:15 pm

    The back & forth between just one of them took up 2 “load more” scrolls.

    If debate doesn’t work (and I mean that genuinely. Answer well and discuss, but if they refuse to debate properly) then mockery always drives them off.

  148. chaoguy
    chaoguy
    June 13, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    Judging by what was said, it could be she’s some kind of “spirit of the blade” kinda deal.

  149. Personaknight
    Personaknight
    June 13, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    Humans transforming into weapons? What is this Elemental Gelade? or you know some anime with the same premise people actually watch outside of 2006. Atleast this is what my mind went to when I saw this. Still Rip piloting mechs, but may be redeemed if we get to fly that ship (I only say that because 2:12)

  150. OSad
    OSad
    June 13, 2017 at 11:08 pm

    I don’t know if this note means anything though.

  151. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    June 13, 2017 at 11:57 pm

    It’s always funny too see one of these idiots justifying the unjustifiable.

  152. VLOCKUP
    VLOCKUP
    June 14, 2017 at 1:56 am

    But I am attracted to the little girl in the game and seeing her panties turned into diapers triggers me immensely.

  153. VLOCKUP
    VLOCKUP
    June 14, 2017 at 1:58 am

    Are you saying NOA and Treehouse have learned their lessons?

    You are shitting me.

  154. Astro
    Astro
    June 14, 2017 at 2:52 am

    is such a thing possible?

  155. TT
    TT
    June 14, 2017 at 2:56 am

    >Elemental Gelade
    god that takes me fucking back

  156. Astro
    Astro
    June 14, 2017 at 2:56 am

    “So you’re saying that you like underage girls scantily clad?”
    Are you so mentally handicapped that you’d actually use such an obvious logical fallacy? Quit shitposting and go back to neogaf, your ad hominems will get you nowhere.

  157. GamesGoodMeGood
    GamesGoodMeGood
    June 14, 2017 at 6:12 am

    Oh look, a feminist censorship apologist. Shock horror.

  158. Feniks
    Feniks
    June 14, 2017 at 6:33 am

    The best solution that makes everyone satisfied is DUAL AUDIO.

    But that would probably make too much sense for Nintendo. We’ll see.

  159. GamesGoodMeGood
    GamesGoodMeGood
    June 14, 2017 at 6:36 am

    And there’s no such thing as anime child porn; that label only applies to real-world children, while those in a game are not given such protections since they’re nothing more than artistic works and mere property of the respective owners/creators.

    Indeed.

    Unfortunately SJWs have a progressive mental disease where it prevents them from being able to distinguish between fiction and reality.

  160. Feniks
    Feniks
    June 14, 2017 at 6:37 am

    And you’re welcome to stop playing JRPGs just saying…

  161. Feniks
    Feniks
    June 14, 2017 at 6:40 am

    Oh man if only we had internet in the nineties with the mortal kombat debacle!

  162. A Loli de 42 'OCs' do Sonic
    A Loli de 42 'OCs' do Sonic
    June 14, 2017 at 9:49 am

    u mean Soul Eater?

  163. Fear Me I Am Free
    Fear Me I Am Free
    June 14, 2017 at 9:59 am

    lol, to each their own.

  164. GamesGoodMeGood
    GamesGoodMeGood
    June 14, 2017 at 10:08 am

    The censorship in Criminal Girls 2 was pretty spectacular though. Not to mention the entire re-structuring of the female 3D model to remove her pelvic bones in Tokyo Mirage Sessions. Amazing stuff.

    Getting to the point where the amount of effort going into censoring video games is more than the effort of developing the game itself.

  165. A Loli de 42 'OCs' do Sonic
    A Loli de 42 'OCs' do Sonic
    June 14, 2017 at 10:15 am

    is anything, Fire Emblem Echoes doesn’t look like it was censored, there haven’t been any news or reports of changes in the localized version so who knows.

  166. GamesGoodMeGood
    GamesGoodMeGood
    June 14, 2017 at 10:21 am

    1.The female characters are obviously scantily clad, might make it difficult for them to backtrack later on, if changes are implemented, as every think has already been demoed and shown.

    Medium that’s already been shown has never really stopped the moral authoritarians from censoring for the most part though.

  167. totenglocke
    totenglocke
    June 14, 2017 at 10:33 am

    With the outfit for big tits, imagine how triggered they’d be….

  168. totenglocke
    totenglocke
    June 14, 2017 at 10:38 am

    Wow, now here’s a time when I would actually support Michael Jordan coming into the comments to say “go fuck yourself”!

  169. Anon630
    Anon630
    June 14, 2017 at 10:53 am

    How (((problematic)))

  170. VersVlees
    VersVlees
    June 14, 2017 at 10:54 am

    Cyber Sharia Approved DIGITAL BURKAS have been activated

  171. VersVlees
    VersVlees
    June 14, 2017 at 10:56 am

    Well the Switch is region free right? Time to learn Moon Runes if you want this game with the boob sliders and exposed booty.

  172. Pico
    Pico
    June 14, 2017 at 11:23 am

    It took some time but they kinda learned with zelda(dont know if that fix is already released)

  173. Pico
    Pico
    June 14, 2017 at 11:23 am

    They cant allow that weapon’s rack

  174. Lezard Valeth
    Lezard Valeth
    June 14, 2017 at 11:53 am

    Buyed a Japanese Wiiu for Xenoblade Chronicle X JP version, but i won’t buy a switch for this one. it really doesn’t have the same charm for me but it doesn’t look all that bad either,( except for the English voices) and yeah nintendo love to butcher their game under their lolcalization, will not be surprised if this one have the same awful treatment, horrible censorship, terrible translation work and of course no dual audio to seal it in a coffin.

    A dream i have is Monolith Soft working with other console brand someday….

  175. Feniks
    Feniks
    June 14, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    True Nintendo can get it right.

  176. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 14, 2017 at 5:00 pm

    Do you know what the word weird means? I’ll wait for you to read a dictionary to find out.

  177. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 14, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    Hmmmm. Failed your reading comprehension again, I see. I see no apologist notions in my post. Merely debating the level of censorship based on personal assessment. Still censored, though, as I clearly stated.

    Don’t worry. I’m sure you’ll get it right next time.

  178. artemisthemp
    artemisthemp
    June 14, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    Looks like I will be picking up a Switch for this game.

  179. Jimmy
    Jimmy
    June 14, 2017 at 10:14 pm

    Hate the character designs but the game look good though

  180. Anon630
    Anon630
    June 14, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    I’ll be sure to pick up a copy of Webster’s that only feminists approve of– for accuracy of course, Mr. Guarenteed Replies. I wouldn’t want to use any hate speech since it seems to translate into real world violence in the eyes of your common snowflake.

  181. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 14, 2017 at 10:58 pm

    Merriam Webster, Oxford, or even Dictionary.com all do fine.

    Perhaps you should calm down, son. Weird isn’t “sexist/misogynistic/etc”. Shorter people with big boobs just look kinda weird to me. Nothing moral about it.

  182. Cats736
    Cats736
    June 15, 2017 at 11:08 am

    *Eats popcorn* This has been an entertaining chain of comments.

  183. EroBotan
    EroBotan
    June 15, 2017 at 11:16 am

    SJW detected lol

  184. UnpluggedBeta
    UnpluggedBeta
    June 15, 2017 at 11:36 am

    “Criticizing personal views without explanation will never work.” Looks like the peanut gallery thinks it works just fine; you’re losing and making yourself look worse with every post. More to the point, just where the hell do you think you are? Kotaku?

  185. UnpluggedBeta
    UnpluggedBeta
    June 15, 2017 at 11:38 am

    My entire discuss page was dominated by this one thread and I do not regret it.

  186. UnpluggedBeta
    UnpluggedBeta
    June 15, 2017 at 11:39 am

    I prefer to call them “Kotaku Ambassadors,” lol.

  187. UnpluggedBeta
    UnpluggedBeta
    June 15, 2017 at 11:41 am

    I’m more impressed that Nintendo still pays treehouse to butcher their games and that NISA thinks this shit makes them money.

  188. UnpluggedBeta
    UnpluggedBeta
    June 15, 2017 at 11:44 am

    I hate to say it, but your options at this point consist of learning japanese or not playing these games.

    I can’t believe it, but censorship has gotten worse in the past couple of decades instead of better. And we thought the religious guys were the censorship nazis; holy shit were we wrong.

  189. UnpluggedBeta
    UnpluggedBeta
    June 15, 2017 at 11:46 am

    Xenosaga 3 was so surprisingly good that I’ll allow it, just this once.

  190. UnpluggedBeta
    UnpluggedBeta
    June 15, 2017 at 11:47 am

    Yeah, that “Windows 10 and Xbone exclusive” line got brought out a lot.

    I wonder if they realize that, while we’ll appreciate it, it will destroy their console business. Maybe that was the plan all along?

  191. epy
    epy
    June 15, 2017 at 1:10 pm

    Hahaha, your weeb power level has gone too high. I understand you cause I’m the same. Can enjoy english dubs in western games just fine but can’t stand them in my weeb games no matter what.

  192. GamesGoodMeGood
    GamesGoodMeGood
    June 15, 2017 at 2:56 pm

    I’m even more impressed by the fact that Nintendo Of Japan seems to be either absolutely clueless or simply just don’t care about their games/art constantly getting censored to death and ruined by the Western parasites.

  193. Marc Duarte
    Marc Duarte
    June 15, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    If you really want to destroy your tolerance of dubs till it’s rendered all but non-existent, just watch 10-20 subbed anime series every season like I do. After five years of this practice, I now cringe in reflex from just hearing a dub for a Japanese TV show or game. Heck, my disdain for them has even started to spill over into Western games and media. I do still have a good tolerance for English dubs in them, but sometimes I have to tell my brain not to reject them since it’s been rewired to favor Japanese over my own native language. (There’s just no going back now; I’ve fully embraced weeb culture.)

  194. InkViper
    InkViper
    June 15, 2017 at 3:53 pm

    No!… I’m saying that there’s a higher probability that Nintendo of Europe is handling localisation.

  195. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 15, 2017 at 4:22 pm

    What are you on about? This is over. I’m over it, why aren’t you?

  196. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 15, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    “I can’t read”
    -EroBotan

  197. Ace
    Ace
    June 15, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    Let the waifu wars begin

  198. Ace
    Ace
    June 15, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    It’s interesting seeing all the lolicons coming out as anti-censorship fans

  199. Fenrir007
    Fenrir007
    June 15, 2017 at 5:38 pm

    Holy shit! Nigga you dangerous.

  200. EroBotan
    EroBotan
    June 15, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    hahaha, you’re triggered XD ! Dude, if you’re acting like an SJW don’t get mad if others call you SJW lol.

    Lately i see a lot of people like you, doing SJW stuff but insist that they’re not SJW, or even go as far as saying that SJW are conspiracy theory. Denying reality, it’s sad lol

  201. EroBotan
    EroBotan
    June 15, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    Very fitting XD!

  202. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 15, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    I can call you illiterate because:
    A) Didn’t call it “not censorship”. Just have a different metric for butchered.
    B) Still said it was pointlessly censored, and even clarified that censorship is bad.
    C) Didn’t shame anyone for being against censoring.
    D) Haven’t doxxed anyone.
    E) And have not yet called anyone here sexist.

    XD

  203. EroBotan
    EroBotan
    June 15, 2017 at 9:49 pm

    lol, like i said, what you’re doing here is a common SJW tactic. You act like SJW, but refuse to be called SJW. When people confront you, you reply by providing various lame excuses and insults. That’s very SJW :D

  204. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 15, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    No. Do you know what a SJW is? They exist, but I have done none of their bullshit. Lol.

  205. EroBotan
    EroBotan
    June 15, 2017 at 9:58 pm

    you’ve done plenty, you just refuse to admit it

  206. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 15, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    Tell you what? Post exact, in context, quotes of me doing what a SJW does. Me being against sexuality on a moral level, shaming someone for being against censorship, or calling someone here sexist/racist/misogynist for no reason.

    Because, as you seem to continue to not understand, I am not against sexuality. People should be free to make their characters look as sexy as they want, so long as they can still write a good story and characters. And morals are stupid.

    Insults? Everyone on every side does them, so that’s not enough. Just disagreeing isn’t enough.

    XD

  207. InkViper
    InkViper
    June 15, 2017 at 10:25 pm

    “Medium that’s already been shown has never really stopped the moral authoritarians from censoring for the most part though.”

    This is true! but equally they’ve never had such a kickback from fans since Mortal Kombat on the Super Nintendo. nore did they have fans back then who went to the length of hacking the games and uncensoreing them.

    https://gbatemp.net/threads/tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe-restoration.429651/

    Case in point with Tokyo mirage sessions, half the articles were about the game being censored! which no doubt contributed to the abysmal sales.

  208. EroBotan
    EroBotan
    June 15, 2017 at 11:44 pm

    you’re basically saying that you have zero self awareness.

    And dont worry, i don’t expect SJW like you will admit that you’re SJW, you’re in the middle of your infiltration mission anyway.

  209. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 15, 2017 at 11:47 pm

    “People should be free to make their characters look as sexy as they
    want, so long as they can still write a good story and characters. And
    morals are stupid.”

    Still waiting. Especially on those examples, oh great sage.

    Also, I don’t think you even understand where you are. I have no reason to hide my affiliations. What can any of you do to me? Talk at me? No, nothing. Get me banned? Free speech place, and I have yet to break the very loose ToS here. I have not even tried to convert anyone to my way of thinking. Answer me: What could I possibly gain by being here, doing nothing but chit chatting, if I was an SJW? Nothing. I’m just here to kill time.

  210. EroBotan
    EroBotan
    June 16, 2017 at 12:19 am

    That quote already screams SJW lol. Off course being an SJW yourself you won’t be able to realize it. You also make light of censorship lol. The rest are just your undercover tactic to make you look sane

  211. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 16, 2017 at 12:23 am

    Tell me where I say censorship is good? I don’t. In fact, you’ve failed to even debate this. No evidence, nothing. Do you like wasting your time? Because I’m enjoying this a lot. You keep digging.

    Also, lol. You keep trying, bro. But, as I said, I don’t need to hide. None of you can do anything to me. There’s no point.

  212. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 16, 2017 at 12:29 am

    Even worse, you don’t even know what SJW means. No SJW would ever accept a sexualized woman character. Are you insane?

  213. GamesGoodMeGood
    GamesGoodMeGood
    June 16, 2017 at 5:41 am

    People should be free to make their characters look as sexy as they
    want, so long as they can still write a good story and characters

    So a female character can only be sexy if it “makes sense” and “fits in” with the story?

    Sounds awfully similar to the “muh realism” and “muh only if it fits her personality” garbage excuses the SJWs/feminists spew to get things censored.

  214. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 16, 2017 at 5:51 am

    Oh, did I say those exact words? Or did you make them up out of your ass? I think you did!

    It’s more of a general thing. We should always demand good writing in our games, and this depends on the context of the game.

  215. GamesGoodMeGood
    GamesGoodMeGood
    June 16, 2017 at 6:46 am

    No SJW would ever accept a sexualized woman character.

    You’re actually wrong on that.

    Some SJWs (although I admit very few) DO accept sexualized female characters. But they have a dishonest criteria whereby if a female character is sexualized, it HAS to “make sense”, “fit in” with the storyline and her personality, and be “realistic”.

    It’s a sneaky way of advocating for censorship but still be seen as the “good guys” because nowadays due to the SJW climate, pressure and lynch-mobbing of Western developers, they don’t really create sexualized female characters for the most part anymore, which means that there are rarely any sexualized female characters anyway.

    Therefore when feminists make this excuse of “muh only if it’s realistic”, it’s actually a cleverly-disguised way of injecting censorship but still appearing as the “good guys”. They know that Western developers are terrified of making female characters with sexual personalities now, so they practically do not exist anymore to begin with.

    In summary: SJWs/feminists say “only if it’s realistic”, but Western developers are not creating story-based or realistic sexualized female characters anymore anyway.

  216. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 16, 2017 at 6:53 am

    That’s pretty paranoid. You don’t really make a character better by taking shit away. You make them better by adding shit to them.

    So, the “solution” to poorly written sexy characters is to simply write them better, like adding more dialogue to them. Or making them funny. This is simple shit.

  217. GamesGoodMeGood
    GamesGoodMeGood
    June 16, 2017 at 7:03 am

    Oh, did I say those exact words? Or did you make them up out of your ass? I think you did!

    No it wasn’t your exact words, but it’s what you’re implying:

    “so long as they can still write a good story and characters”

    It’s more of a general thing. We should always demand good writing in our games, and this depends on the context of the game.

    Yes we should always hope for good writing in video games, but “good writing” is subjective and is one’s personal taste. There’s not really a universal standard or criteria when it comes to “good writing”.

    For example, feminists think that a video game with unattractive, fat, obnoxious Mary Sue female characters killing white male characters to fight against the Patriarchy is good writing.

    Race-baiters think a video game with black characters shooting White Nationalists to fight against the KKK is good writing.

    What we should be striving for is freedom of expression and creativity without imposing our personal standards of what “good writing” is.

  218. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 16, 2017 at 7:10 am

    Do you like it when people make up shit about what you say? No? Well, I don’t either. The straight answer is that I was not implying that.

    Freedom of expression is not freedom from criticism. We can still offer constructive feedback, or choose not to buy a game if we think it looks shitty. If they don’t want to listen, then OK. The market will sort out the shit, then.

  219. GamesGoodMeGood
    GamesGoodMeGood
    June 16, 2017 at 7:28 am

    That’s pretty paranoid.

    No paranoia from me because what I said is true. I’ve been in the culture war for the last 6 years now, I was there even before “SJWs” and “GamerGate” was a thing.

    Western developers and publishers have been lynch-mobbed and fear-mongered into depicting female characters in the “correct way” by the mainstream games media, especially from the likes of Kotaku and Polygon screaming misogyny and sexism at anything they personally don’t like.

    If you cannot see this then you’ve been either been living under a rock or you’re the usual typical feminist trying to deflect away from the truth.

    You don’t really make a character better by taking shit away. You make them better by adding shit to them.

    I didn’t say anything about nor did I advocate for “taking shit away” from anything. I am saying that SJWs use the “muh realism” card to inject censorship whilst at the same time appearing to be the “good guys”.

    The only people who are trying to take things away are SJWs and feminists, according to their own personal standards.

    So, the “solution” to poorly written sexy characters is to simply write
    them better, like adding more dialogue to them. Or making them funny.

    Perhaps.

    But at the same time “poorly written” is subjective and down to one’s personal opinion of course.

    But even if the character is supposedly “poorly written”, it should still be allowed to exist and not have the creator lynch-mobbed and forced to censor it or/and make it something the creator does not want it to be.

  220. VersVlees
    VersVlees
    June 16, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    I really do wonder how they think about that? (especially from a artistic standpoint) I would not be too happy as a creator if they would go so far as removing the pelvic bones on models because of no sexy times allowed. (even worse if it was done by guys who are kinda your co workers from a over seas office)

    It is probably they don’t give a shit about them baka gajins though and that we should be grateful to even play these games from the glorious nation of nippon.

  221. EroBotan
    EroBotan
    June 16, 2017 at 10:43 pm

    it’s right there in your first comment lol. And in your recent self quote too. You already blow your cover but still dont realize it, your infiltration mission failed lol

  222. EroBotan
    EroBotan
    June 16, 2017 at 10:44 pm

    that’s another favorite phrase of all the undercover SJWs i’ve met lol

  223. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 16, 2017 at 11:09 pm

    I said it was needlessly censored. Reread, but I think you had crap in your eyes the first time you tried to read it.

  224. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 16, 2017 at 11:09 pm

    Keep thinking that, champ.

  225. EroBotan
    EroBotan
    June 16, 2017 at 11:14 pm

    yeah, you’re choosing your SJW agent excuse instead of quoting your censorship apologist statement, sooo SJW!!!

  226. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 17, 2017 at 12:22 am

    Keep thinking that slugger. What are you capable of doing? I’ve been here since last year, man. Not even Smug could get rid of me.

  227. EroBotan
    EroBotan
    June 17, 2017 at 5:39 am

    only SJW who will waste their time chasing away people lol

  228. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 17, 2017 at 5:43 am

    Sure, sure kiddo.

  229. SiliconNooB
    SiliconNooB
    June 18, 2017 at 9:27 am

    It’s going to be funny when the game releases and most of these changes are indistinguishable from the end product!

  230. SiliconNooB
    SiliconNooB
    June 18, 2017 at 9:30 am

    You are extraordinarily pathetic. We can all see what you’re doing. Shill for Nintendo elsewhere.

  231. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 18, 2017 at 11:08 am

    Uh huh. Keep thinking that, buddy.

  232. Eden
    Eden
    June 18, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    I don’t like a game to be censored at all. If I see a game that peaks my interest, I want everything the game has to offer, not some watered down version of it.

  233. Ckarasu
    Ckarasu
    June 18, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    Just because I wouldn’t call the game butchered doesn’t mean I’m ok with it being censored. Seemed kinda obvious.