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Tokyo Tattoo Girls Heads West on PC, PS Vita Summer 2017

NIS America has announced a western release for Tokyo Tattoo Girls.

Developed by Sushi Typoon, the game will launch for PC and PS Vita in both North America and Europe sometime this summer. Featured above, here’s the debut trailer for the game.

Here’s a rundown on the game, via NIS America:


After a calamity befalls Tokyo, some of the city’s survivors find themselves with powerful abilities bestowed on them by colorful tattoos. The city is cordoned off from the world, and its inhabitants isolated. To create peace, the city has been divided into 23 wards, each controlled by a powerful group known as ‘Kumi’. Together, these Kumi form the ‘Union.’ It’s rumored that escape from the devastated city is possible, but only for the person who manages to defeat all 23 Kumi.

Key Features

  • Become the Tattoo Artist – Choose your companion character to help you escape from Tokyo, and develop her abilities by giving her powerful tattoos.
  • Conquer Tokyo’s 23 Wards – Battle against the Union to conquer all of Tokyo’s 23 wards in the hope of escaping the city.
  • Climb the Rankings – Enjoy unique designs inspired by traditional Japanese tattoo art created by tattoo artist Koji Tanaka.
  • Languages – Enjoy English in-game text
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75 comments
  1. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 18, 2017 at 12:05 am

    This looks cool, but a bit too risqué for NISA to not mess it up with censorship.

  2. Astro
    Astro
    February 18, 2017 at 12:07 am

    Huh. Interesting concept, tattoos that give you power. Any idea what the game plays out like though? I mean how does the player go about conquering the 23 wards? Is it some sort of RPG?

  3. Astro
    Astro
    February 18, 2017 at 12:09 am

    I’m afraid of this as well. I know it’s a horse that’s been beaten to death time and time again when it comes to NISA, but it’s hard to trust them at this point. I can only hope they’ve learned over the last few years what fans actually want and what they CAN get through the ESRB without censoring the game (thanks to PQube with Valkyrie Drive and Gal*Gun)

  4. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 18, 2017 at 12:12 am

    I honestly don’t know why they keep getting games with ecchi content if they are going to butcher them. There are plenty of other games that need localisations and they could pick those instead.

  5. Astro
    Astro
    February 18, 2017 at 12:16 am

    I wholeheartedly agree. A part of me has mind to chalk it up to certain people in the company being moral busybodies with an agenda of “fixing” these lewd “sexist” anime games. But who can really say? Unless some editor(s) over at NISA have just outright admitted it, that is.

  6. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 18, 2017 at 12:23 am

    I’m not even sure that there is someone there with an agenda (although it is not out of the question), but this is caused by rather lame business decisions and pre-emptive cowardice from the ESRB.

  7. Astro
    Astro
    February 18, 2017 at 12:31 am

    There is no way to know for sure, but the idea has been in the back of my mind for a while now; since the first Criminal Girls came West. And NISA definitely seems afraid of the ESRB; as though they’re out to slap any game they can with an AO, which simply isn’t the case. From what I’ve seen, ESRB are VERY reasonable, and don’t hand out AOs lightly. In fact, on their website there’s only 25 games they’ve given an AO rating to; the majority of those being PC games.

  8. Astro
    Astro
    February 18, 2017 at 12:50 am

    Well, I had a reply written out and it got flagged/”detected” as spam. :T

  9. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 18, 2017 at 12:54 am

    I did read it. This is rather strange given that your reply didn’t have anything out of the ordinary.

    In any case I agree – the AO rating isn’t something that is all that common. XSEED and PQube consistently prove that you can get away with it, but NISA just don’t want to risk it. I highly doubt that the money lost on a resubmission will be more than the people who boycott the game because of the censorship. I plan to wait and see how they handle this one.

  10. Trouble Man
    Trouble Man
    February 18, 2017 at 12:55 am

    Shouldn’t this be a 3D game? It’s hard to see how much customization or design you can really do with the tattoos when the girls are just drawn images.

  11. Astro
    Astro
    February 18, 2017 at 1:00 am

    Oh good, so it DID go though. It is rather odd it got detected as spam though. Perhaps it was the frequency of our exchanges or the length of the reply?

    Indeed, XSEED and PQube have been great examples that you can get away with A LOT by ESRB. I wish I knew how much it costs to submit a game to ESRB, then we’d know for sure. I mean SURELY it isn’t that expensive, especially if the game is for a single system, or even two systems (that might not even matter for all I know)

    I’m going to do the same. Just sit and wait for this, see what comes out as people get their hands on it or if NISA mentions anything as they did with CG2.

  12. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 18, 2017 at 1:05 am

    I’m not sure. I only read it in my email notifications, but it wasn’t present here.

    Their decisions don’t make much sense, but we’ll see how this one will turn out to be.

  13. sanic
    sanic
    February 18, 2017 at 1:11 am

    kadokawa can’t protect this one…

  14. 3rdStrike_Ebi
    3rdStrike_Ebi
    February 18, 2017 at 3:07 am

    Hey kids, you wanna buy some crack?

  15. grgspunk
    grgspunk
    February 18, 2017 at 4:31 am

    Don’t they usually announce the fact that they’ll censor their titles whenever they announce that they’re releasing them? This may be NISA we’re talking about, but given their history of being relatively early about making known their intentions to censor titles, you’d think we’d know for sure by now.

  16. Tristan (Chili1)
    Tristan (Chili1)
    February 18, 2017 at 4:37 am

    What even is the gameplay for this?

  17. Cats736
    Cats736
    February 18, 2017 at 5:23 am

    So, what’s censored?

  18. Cats736
    Cats736
    February 18, 2017 at 5:25 am

    Valkyrie Drive is actually censored, ages were remove like with Senran Kagura.

  19. Cats736
    Cats736
    February 18, 2017 at 5:36 am

    Well, there are definitely people with or are close to others with that agenda localizing our games.
    http://puu.sh/u8zOQ/04e806f5cd.jpg

  20. Hiecchi
    Hiecchi
    February 18, 2017 at 6:00 am

    Its was announced that the age would be removed, because different laws in the world

  21. Hiecchi
    Hiecchi
    February 18, 2017 at 6:01 am

    possible the mini-game

  22. Cats736
    Cats736
    February 18, 2017 at 6:02 am

    Rhetorical.

  23. Hiecchi
    Hiecchi
    February 18, 2017 at 6:12 am

    The change and reason was announced with the senran kagura franchise, so it was expected it would be the same with all their releases
    Still its not a “bad censorship”, because we still get the game with all his content for the lack of the age info

  24. Cats736
    Cats736
    February 18, 2017 at 6:17 am

    Same reason as Senran Kagura, so it was purely the choice of the company and not because it was an issue then.

    http://puu.sh/u8Ctx/285521cc4a.jpg

  25. Hiecchi
    Hiecchi
    February 18, 2017 at 6:22 am

    Come on…you also know that senran/valkyrie would be never released in the west with that age
    Its still better to get the game without any gameplay or story content change for that info as a exchange

  26. Cats736
    Cats736
    February 18, 2017 at 6:27 am

    Nothing preventing them from doing so.

    I can agree on that.

  27. Hiecchi
    Hiecchi
    February 18, 2017 at 6:42 am

    No one, but with that age it would be impossible to release the title in the UK or USA
    You cant argue against that

  28. Ruto-hime
    Ruto-hime
    February 18, 2017 at 7:17 am

    The question is, why do they care about the ages of a bunch of drawings and pixels? Idiocy takes on many forms it seems. Sad.

  29. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 18, 2017 at 8:10 am

    Give them some time. They may compile a list of changes after they’ve done some work on the game.

  30. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 18, 2017 at 8:33 am

    I don’t consider this to be censorship – the girls are still the given ages, but they hid them. As long as all the relevant content was there this is a small price to pay.

  31. Boku
    Boku
    February 18, 2017 at 8:35 am

    I actually emailed PEGI about this and they essentially said the following:
    1. PQ never sent them anything indicating the girls’ age, so it was not a factor in their official rating.
    2. The sexuality of the content makes the rating, fluff info like the girls’ age wouldn’t make it any worse unless they are presented forthright as children or otherwise appear distinctly pre/pubescent: the only place you see the girls’ age in VD is in a single page on a specific menu.

    The latter being pertinent since games with petite/DFC characters without ever mentioning age often feel the need to censor those characters pre-emptively.

    Bear in mind too that the girls are sisters. If the game would see hardship getting sold due to them being under the age of consent then why didn’t it get shuttered for promoting incest?

  32. Hiecchi
    Hiecchi
    February 18, 2017 at 8:52 am

    Kissing is not really incest, because there is no sexual intercourse
    And i dont think it would be a problem for the esrb but maybe pegi/usk or some people who can use that info againt the publisher?

  33. catazxy
    catazxy
    February 18, 2017 at 9:00 am

    I want to give them a tramp stamp, if I can’t then whats the point of the game?

  34. Boku
    Boku
    February 18, 2017 at 9:06 am

    Okay, so if two sisters kissing and fondling one another isn’t incest because of no intercourse why would a game featuring exactly the same content get slammed because one girl in a relationship is 15? As you say; there is no sexual intercourse.

    And this is PEGI (UK/EU) I contacted, not the ESRB, telling me the above. I dont doubt the USK being against it no matter what since they’re much more hardline.

  35. Leandro Teixeira
    Leandro Teixeira
    February 18, 2017 at 9:08 am

    Another game to the import list. I just know they will probably remove the dialogue during the tattoo minigames

  36. FreshSnug
    FreshSnug
    February 18, 2017 at 9:46 am

    Hard to trust them? It’s outright stupid to trust them. Supporting Nisa guarantees more censorship in the future.

  37. FreshSnug
    FreshSnug
    February 18, 2017 at 9:47 am

    If anything I consider removing ages cheating the arbitrary system.

  38. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 18, 2017 at 9:52 am

    I’d prefer to have them in, but you are correct – the removal of ages is there for the moral busybodies who need to be reminded that a bunch of pixels are ageless.

  39. Astro
    Astro
    February 18, 2017 at 9:52 am

    Oh, I’d almost forgotten that. But honestly, something that’s such a little detail is nearly negligible as long as the entirety of the rest of the game is in tact.

  40. Astro
    Astro
    February 18, 2017 at 9:55 am

    oh. Well great. This is rather irksome, I mean who is it to decide whether or not something is “insensitive” or “culturally inappropriate” for another person? Why can’t they just do a straight translation and not get their own politics involved? Sheesh.

  41. Himegami Aisa
    Himegami Aisa
    February 18, 2017 at 10:11 am

    Because their editors are big-headed enough to think all the gratuitous liberties they take, from their retarded jokes to “fixing” shit they don’t like, is to the benefit of the overall product, critics be damned.

  42. Fenrir007
    Fenrir007
    February 18, 2017 at 10:42 am

    This is going to be censored and lolcalized to hell and back.

  43. Fenrir007
    Fenrir007
    February 18, 2017 at 11:06 am

    “learning” is anathema to NISA.

  44. grgspunk
    grgspunk
    February 18, 2017 at 11:09 am

    The very last sentence is even more damning.

  45. grgspunk
    grgspunk
    February 18, 2017 at 11:14 am

    They usually start working on these titles some time before they announce that they’re releasing them. That’s why they’re able to announce their intentions to censor alongside the announcement of their releases for their other games.

    If they do plan to censor this one, there is no reason for them not to do the same.

  46. CRES
    CRES
    February 18, 2017 at 1:22 pm

    The issue is for the characters that are under 18, then the sexual content involving those characters could potentially slap the game with an AO rating, which as we all know is the death knell for any game in the US. The same thing happened with Senran Kagura, except originally XSEED was going to raise all of the ages up to at least 18. It was only because of Tom campaigning for a completely uncensored release that the ages where removed instead.

  47. LaTaleFan1985
    LaTaleFan1985
    February 18, 2017 at 1:44 pm

    Interesting concept. I might buy this if I get the chance. ?

  48. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    February 18, 2017 at 1:52 pm

    Didn’t spacedrake leave the localization scene?

    AFAIK His company hasn’t released any game after Fortune Summoners when he nearly killed himself after failing to meet deadlines when working with XSEED on Trails 2nd.

    I Still cant bring myself to hate the guy though. Reccetear played a big role demonstrating there is a place for niche Japanese games on Steam.

  49. Hiecchi
    Hiecchi
    February 18, 2017 at 2:14 pm

    The game is still banned in germany and maybe the esrb would had a problem?
    Persona 5 got a M-Rating and Pegi would likely give the title a +16 like the USK

  50. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 18, 2017 at 2:36 pm

    As I said – they could still be compiling said list. Plus even if they already knew exactly what’s going to be censored mentioning that the game will be butchered right after announcing it wouldn’t be good PR for them.

  51. Cats736
    Cats736
    February 18, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    The sexual content is not to the point of an AO rating, whether the character’s ‘age’ is ‘under 18’ or not. AO ratings are not handed out like candy like that. See the image I posted below with Toms response regarding Senran Kagura. It was purely the companies choice to remove and alter the ages, they were not forced to because of the scary AO rating.

  52. Cerea
    Cerea
    February 18, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    tats are cool just don’t fuck with the tits

  53. Fenrir007
    Fenrir007
    February 18, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    I’m a-okay with this kind of censorship since its extremely minor and has no effect on the game itself. It’s as much compromise as I’m willing to make.

  54. EroBotan
    EroBotan
    February 18, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    I get the feeling that the main reason NISA’s picks this title is to censor it lol.

  55. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 18, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    That’d be quite evil.

  56. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    February 19, 2017 at 1:50 am

    Some countries have laws about sexual representation of the minors it has nothing to do with the age of consent. Dead or Alive dimension was banned in Sweden and many countries from the north of Europe, due to Ayane was minor and the photo mode in the game despite a low PEGI rating.

  57. razisgosu
    razisgosu
    February 19, 2017 at 5:56 am

    It was not announced. Pqube lied about it and had to be called out about it.

  58. totenglocke
    totenglocke
    February 19, 2017 at 10:02 am

    We definitely need to publicly shame these people, just like we do with drunk drivers and child molesters.

  59. MusouTensei
    MusouTensei
    February 19, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    I tried looking for gameplay but I can’t really find anything, some screenshots that look very bland, definitely not a $40 game.

  60. MusouTensei
    MusouTensei
    February 19, 2017 at 12:27 pm

    This is like the only censorship that doesn’t bothers me (I can accept it when it’s done to actually prevent an AO rating, but that doesn’t mean it won’t bother me, just can’t blame the localizer then but the ESRB), I couldn’t care less how old fictional characters are tbh, I can barely keep the ages of family members in RL. I have no clue how old any of my favorite characters are.
    If all they would have changed in Tokyo Mirage Sessions were the ages, I’d have nothing to complain.

  61. grgspunk
    grgspunk
    February 19, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    Dude, where have you been these past four years? Every time they butcher a game, they’ve always disclosed their intentions to censor it as soon as they make the initial announcement.

    They don’t need to compile a “list” if they already have a general impression that they have to censor a game. They never needed to be specific about what they’re editing.

  62. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 19, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    “Every time they butcher a game, they’ve always disclosed their
    intentions to censor it as soon as they make the initial announcement.” – that is factually incorrect. They’ve only done so for Criminal Girls 2. No such immediate disclosure for the first game or Dungeon Travelers 2.

    They don’t necessarily have to confirm that the game will be censored when they reveal it. They may post a statement at some point but not right at the reveal. I don’t know why you fail to grasp that simple fact.

    “They don’t need to compile a “list” if they already have a general
    impression that they have to censor a game. They never needed to be
    specific about what they’re editing.” – I never said they need to. I said that they could be compiling such a list. And if you want to be so specific about semantics, then fine – it doesn’t have to be an actual list, but an overview of what needs to be changed. Again – this could be posted at any time after they announced the game or they won’t even bother disclosing the changes until they are found.

    I get that you want to be optimistic, but people’s scepticism towards NISA censoring games is completely justified.

  63. grgspunk
    grgspunk
    February 19, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    “They don’t necessarily have to confirm that the game will be censored when they reveal it. They may post a statement at some point but not right at the reveal. I don’t know why you fail to grasp that simple fact.”

    Well guess what? They’ve been doing just that. Every single time.

    “I never said they need to. I said that they could be compiling such a list. And if you want to be so specific about semantics, then fine – it doesn’t have to be an actual list, but an overview of what needs to be changed. Again – this could be posted at any time after they announced the game or they won’t even bother disclosing the changes until they are found.”

    Dude, most localization companies work on their game months before they’re even announced. There is absolutely no reason they don’t know what they need to censor after the initial announcement.

    “I get that you want to be optimistic, but people’s scepticism towards NISA censoring games is completely justified.”

    Listen dude, think with your brain for once. NISA might be dipshits when it comes to why they censor their games, but there is no precedent that they’ll delay disclosing their intentions to censor shit past the intitial announcement.

    Why? The weeb fandom is split into three categories when it comes to censorship issues:

    A) Real fans that care about the integrity of their original title and raise complaints about the existence of content editing in their product (AKA us),

    B) Apologistic, pro-censorship, dipshit “fans” that will actively defend any edits that get thrown at whatever that gets released (50% their active forum users),

    C) Half-hearted “fans” who will only raise complaints if content edits aren’t disclosed in a timely manner, but will otherwise tolerate or defend the existence of such edits similar to people in category B (49% of their active forum users).

    NISA knows this. They know that censorship in general will bring in bad PR, especially considering how people in category “A” tend to be very vocal. They have to resort to aggressive marketing and active interaction with their community to get as many people into the “B” and “C” categories and minimize any damage caused by those in the “A” category. If they delay disclosing their edits, they end up pissing off the “C” category guys and losing them too.

    NISA’s edits have rocked the entire fandom over the past two years, and it’s been amplified due to events like Gamergate and Nintendo’s own bullshit edits of their recent FE titles. They doesn’t want to lose any more “fans” than they’ve already lost, so they have no other choice but to disclose edits early for risk of losing even more if they have any intention of censoring.

    That’s why it’s likely that NISA would’ve announced it right away if they’re planning on censoring this title.

  64. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 19, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    “Well guess what? They’ve been doing just that. Every single time.” – citation needed. I already stated that they didn’t do that for Criminal Girls 1 and Dungeon Travelers. So what’s your counter argument?

    “Dude, most localization companies work on their game months before
    they’re even announced.” – do I need to say this again? They may know what they need to censor, but they may not disclose it right away.

    “There is absolutely no reason they don’t know
    what they need to censor after the initial announcement.” – as a matter of fact there is a reason. Bad PR is a thing you know and NISA was getting plenty of that with Criminal Girls 2. Just look at the trailers and their like/dislike ratio. If the reveal trailer of the game got that treatment I’d imagine that they wouldn’t be too happy.

    “there is no precedent that they’ll delay disclosing their intentions to censor shit past the intitial announcement.” – again – Criminal Girls 1 and Dungeon Travelers. Plus there is also no precedent of them revealing everything upon release. One game is not a precedent, so please back up your statements with some examples other than Criminal Girls 2.

    Your ABC theory is just that – a theory of how the upper management at NISA thinks. Here’s a counter theory – they don’t disclose the changes because they are minor like in Dungeon Travelers the game is released and B&C already bought it, after which the changes are discovered.

    “That’s why it’s likely that NISA would’ve announced it right away if they’re planning on censoring this title.” – “likely” is a weasel word that brings nothing to the discussion. You used it because you are not certain whether the title will be censored and with good reason – you can’t know that, which in turn is why I remain sceptical.

  65. grgspunk
    grgspunk
    February 19, 2017 at 11:02 pm

    Dungeon Travelers 2 was localized by Atlus, not NISA. I’m talking about just NISA, dumbass.

    They did disclose early on that they had every intention to censor CG1:

    http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2014/07/04/criminal-girls-invite-only-announced-for-western-release-in-2015-on-ps-vita/

    http://www.nisamerica.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=15014

    “- again – Criminal Girls 1 and Dungeon Travelers. Plus there is also no precedent of them revealing everything upon release. One game is not a precedent, so please back up your statements with some examples other than Criminal Girls 2.”

    Stop fucking twisting my goddamned words. I mentioned that they annouce their INTENTIONS to edit the game early, not specific details on exactly what they’re censoring or where.

    “Your ABC theory is just that – a theory of how the upper management at NISA thinks. Here’s a counter theory – they don’t disclose the changes because they are minor like in Dungeon Travelers the game is released and B&C already bought it, after which the changes are discovered.”

    You’ve never been on their forums, have you? The Bs and Cs argue with the As whenever this sort of thing happens all the time.

    “likely” is a weasel word that brings nothing to the discussion. You used it because you are not certain whether the title will be censored and with good reason – you can’t know that, which in turn is why I remain sceptical.”

    I can damn well make reasonable interpretations based on past experiences. The problem with your argument is that it not “skepticism” so much as it is “paranoia”.

    While I can’t necessarily blame you for

  66. grgspunk
    grgspunk
    February 19, 2017 at 11:16 pm

    Dungeon Travelers 2 was localized by Atlus, not NISA. I’m talking about just NISA, dumbass.

    They did disclose early on that they had every intention to censor CG1:

    http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2014/07/04/criminal-girls-invite-only-announced-for-western-release-in-2015-on-ps-vita/.

    http://www.nisamerica.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=15014

    “-again – Criminal Girls 1 and Dungeon Travelers. Plus there is also no precedent of them revealing everything upon release. One game is not a precedent, so please back up your statements with some examples other than Criminal Girls 2.”

    Stop fucking twisting my goddamned words. I mentioned that they’re early about announcing their INTENTION to edit the game early on, not give pinpoint specific details on exactly where they’re censoring or cutting out.

    “YourABC theory is just that – a theory of how the upper management at NISA thinks. Here’s a counter theory – they don’t disclose the changes because they are minor like in Dungeon Travelers the game is released and B&C already bought it, after which the changes are discovered.”

    You’ve never been on their forums, have you? The Bs and Cs argue with the As whenever this sort of thing happens all the time.

    None of the edits NISA made to any game were ever discovered AFTER their releases.

    “likely” is a weasel word that brings nothing to the discussion. You used it because you are not certain whether the title will be censored and with good reason – you can’t know that, which in turn is why I remain sceptical.”

    I can damn well make reasonable interpretations based on past experiences.

    The problem with the way you think is that it not “skepticism” so much as it is “paranoia”.

    I can’t necessarily blame you for having a nagging feeling that there’s a chance it’ll be censored. However, while it’s one thing to ask whether this game will be censored, it’s a whole different thing to assume it automatically will be based on false information. Your assumption that they never disclosed what they censored in CG1 is pure disinformation borne out of paranoid misconceptions about the company–That brings nothing to the table.

    If you’re going to make a complaint about censorship, then do it right. Don’t base it on false assumptions and automatically assume they’re incapable of unfucking themselves.

    Otherwise, you’ll make us look like goddamned fools and they won’t treat us category As as part of their audience–They’ll just ignore us. They’ll devote all their efforts to appeasing the Bs and Cs while butchering more shit anyways–If they shut us out, your statements become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

  67. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 20, 2017 at 12:40 am

    My mistake on DT2. I live in Europe, so I associated the release of the game with NISA.

    “As
    for NISA, they did disclose early on that they had every intention to
    censor CG1” – “early on” != “when revealed”, so I’m afraid my point
    still stands.

    “Stop fucking twisting my goddamned words. I
    mentioned that they’re early
    about announcing their INTENTION to edit the game early on, not give
    pinpoint specific details on exactly where they’re censoring or cutting
    out.” – I’m not twisting your words. Your entire opposition to my
    scepticism is that they would’ve said if they censored the game right
    away. All I’m saying is that they still can do so, but for some reason
    you have a problem with this.

    “None of the edits NISA made to any
    game were ever discovered AFTER their releases.” – I find this hard to
    believe, if we take the statement literally – I’m sure specific changes
    were discovered after the release, but this is just semantics.

    “I
    can damn well make reasonable interpretations based on past
    experiences.” – so can I. Both our theories are equally valid given that
    there are no evidence either way.

    “The problem with the way you
    think is that it not “skepticism” so much as it is “paranoia”.” – that’s
    your personal interpretation of my behaviour, but how did you put it
    again? Ah, yes – make “reasonable interpretations based on past
    experiences”. NISA is notorious for censoring stuff, so it is quite
    reasonable to be sceptical. Paranoia is associated with fear. I don’t
    fear that they’ll censor the game, I just doubt that they won’t.

    “However,
    while it’s one thing to ask whether this game will be censored,
    it’s a whole different thing to automatically assume it will be
    censored based on false information.” – please do tell where I’ve done
    that. I just said that the risqué nature of the game suggest that NISA
    might censor it in some way. Nowhere did I say that it will be 100%
    censored based on “false information”.

    “You believed that they
    never disclosed their intention of censoring CG1
    just because specific details on what was censored was unclear to you.” –
    no, I never said that. I said that they didn’t disclose the censorship
    when the game was revealed. Who’s twisting words now?

    “This is
    pure disinformation borne out of paranoid misconceptions about the
    company” – the fact that they butcher their games is hardly a “paranoid
    misconception”.

    “If you’re going to make a complaint about
    censorship, then do it right.
    Don’t base it on false assumptions and automatically believe they’re
    incapable of un-fucking themselves.” – you are not the thought police.
    I’ll express myself in the manner I find fit. I’m not willing to be
    charitable with NISA given how many times they fucked up.

    “Otherwise,
    you’ll make us look like goddamned fools and they won’t treat
    us category As as part of their audience–They’ll just ignore us.
    They’ll devote all their efforts to marketing to the Bs and Cs while
    butchering more shit anyways–If they shut us out, your statements
    become a self-fulfilling prophecy.” – there is no “us” here. I’m an
    individual customer. My comments on their business practices express my
    position. If they butcher their games they won’t have my money – simple
    as that.

    “So cut the crap.” – same goes for you too, comrade. I’ll not self censor just because you don’t like what I’m saying.

  68. KiTA
    KiTA
    February 20, 2017 at 2:59 pm

    Bingo. It’s a fanservice game and NISA has shown they’ll bend over backwards to appease the puritans who wouldn’t even play the games in the first place. I guess at this point it’s just a matter of seeing how badly they screw it up. :(

  69. KiTA
    KiTA
    February 20, 2017 at 3:09 pm

    It’s beyond just that. NISA has gone on the record repeatedly that the ESRB gives them special scrutiny when they submit games. In other words, NISA has gone on the record as saying the ESRB harasses and discriminates against their company.

    Since submitting a game and then having to go back and re-edit it is about $50,000 or so wasted — EACH TIME, they can’t risk it or they’ll be bankrupted.

  70. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 20, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    I kind of doubt that. I don’t think the ESRB specifically discriminates against them. Also submitting a game is not so expensive. If the game cost more than $250,000 dollars the fee would be $4,000 dollars, if the cost of development was less than $250,000 dollars the fee would be $800

  71. KiTA
    KiTA
    February 20, 2017 at 3:16 pm

    Before we all get too upset about potential censorship from NISA, has anyone investigated if it actually is an ecchi game in the first place?

  72. KiTA
    KiTA
    February 21, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    Submit to ESRB, Fails. That’s some money.
    Make Changes via localization team and programming team. That’s more money.
    Resubmit to Internal QA. That’s even more money.
    Resubmit to Sony QA testing. That’s a flat $20,000 fee IIRC.
    Resubmit to ESRB.

    It adds up quickly. Especially since the ESRB has no hard and fast rules and it’s entirely subjective rulings with no appeal.

  73. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    February 21, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    If no changes are required after the initial submission then they’ll actually save money by not making the censorship changes in the first place.

    Plus once a game is rated by the ESRB then you send it to the Sony QA testing. If they reject you there it is a completely separate matter. Also there is no way that cost is a flat 20K. I’ll need a citation on this. In your previous post you were an order of magnitude wrong and numbers do matter.

    NISA is a business. They have to consider if the risk of resubmitting to the ESRB, which we established does not have that high of a price, is worth losing customers who would not buy the version of the product.