Oculus Will Support Mac if Apple “Ever Releases a Good Computer”

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We’ve known that Oculus support for Mac isn’t something that is coming immediately, if not at all.

However, Oculus founder Palmer Luckey had some very interesting comments regarding Apple’s computers, and whether or not they’re able to even handle the virtual reality device.

“[Rift support] is up to Apple,” he said to VentureBeat. “If they ever release a good computer, we will do it.”

Palmer defined a “good computer” as one that can handle the processing demands of VR software – where games have to be able to run at 90-to-125 frames per second, to avoid users getting motion sickness.

Luckey said that currently, Apple doesn’t have an option right now that you can buy to meet these requirements.

“It just boils down to the fact that Apple doesn’t prioritize high-end GPUs,” said Luckey. “You can buy a $6,000 Mac Pro with the top of the line AMD FirePro D700, and it still doesn’t match our recommended specs. So if they prioritize higher-end GPUs, like they used to for a while back in the day, we’d love to support Mac. But right now, there’s just not a single machine out there that supports it.”

How do you guys feel about Luckey’s comments? Are you gaming on a PC rig? Sound off in the comments below!

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  1. Mir Teiwaz
    Mir Teiwaz
    March 3, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    I felt that burn from over here.

  2. Master Bating
    Master Bating
    March 3, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    Why would you buy a computer with locked proprietary hardware?

  3. TwoKF
    March 3, 2016 at 2:59 pm

    It sounds like a burn, but he really isn’t wrong – laptop GPUs just aren’t good enough to push VR. With the amount of money people waste on Mac hardware, they’d probably assume ‘it just werks’ and would make themselves sick in the process. Bad first impression for VR.

  4. William Lee Twitch
    William Lee Twitch
    March 3, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    $6000 for a Mac Pro that’s weaker than a $800 PC build? Talk about overpriced garbage.

  5. Eldhin Hellknight
    Eldhin Hellknight
    March 3, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    Well, he’s right, Apple computers sucks, specially the new shitty Macbooks. Even a freaking iMac can’t handle GIMP propperly

  6. 革命的の鶏
    March 3, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    Why have bridges if you can’t burn them.

  7. Offendatron_5000
    March 3, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    Steve Jobs may just reanimate on the level of the comentary.

  8. Heavily Augmented
    Heavily Augmented
    March 3, 2016 at 3:07 pm

    I don’t really pay attention to Apple products, but a $6000 Mac that can’t run VR? Fucking hell, I could probably build some kind of super computer with that money that’ll last 10 years at LEAST!

  9. SpecialK
    March 3, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    Apply directly to the burn.

  10. Carl B.
    Carl B.
    March 3, 2016 at 3:16 pm

    He’s not wrong though.

  11. NuclearCherries
    March 3, 2016 at 3:19 pm

    Man, looks like Oculus will be 100% hipster proof then.
    I can’t wait for articles on Kotaku and other hipster rags saying that HTC vive is better anyway and no they are not salty.

  12. NorBdelta
    March 3, 2016 at 3:23 pm

    Only possible use for a Mac ;D

  13. alterku
    March 3, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    This is the true takeaway from this article. Top of the line apple products are still inferior to middling PC products.

  14. scemar
    March 3, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    accurate comment is accurate
    apple computers are severely lacking high end GPU options, even if you order off their site a custom one, there’s really no good upgrade options and of course it’s not like you can just buy the GPU and instal them in yourself

    kind of a shame really because despite the bad reputation they get in general, they are not bad computers, overpriced sure but not bad, except for the GPU, which is a common weakness of them all

  15. vonSanneck
    March 3, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    So the brand and software is the sole reason they can get away with pricing usually deserved for lower end hunch-back cars.

  16. scemar
    March 3, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    The brand might not matter, no VR might work well on apple computers.
    VR requires high end GPU, period.

  17. morzinbo
    March 3, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    The same reason you’d buy a VR headset with locked proprietary software.

  18. Some dude
    Some dude
    March 3, 2016 at 3:35 pm

    The only reason you’d do that is because you didn’t have a choice

  19. dogmentation
    March 3, 2016 at 3:41 pm

    That was such a sick burn I don’t know whether to call the CDC or the Fire Department.

  20. Brimfyre
    March 3, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    I’m an editor/animator and have used Macs my entire life, and I see nothing wrong with his comments. The new Mac Pros are especially garbage. I’ve had to get it replaced twice in the last year. I’ll probably be switching to PC next year.

  21. Kev Lew
    Kev Lew
    March 3, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    after playing on a friends £2000 mac I can confirm, his games run on average 2/3 or less of the frame rate of my self-build PC that cost a little over half the price.

  22. Madbrainbox
    March 3, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    2 Titan X,an I7,32gb RAM,2 SSD’s and a 5tb HDD,2 monitors.Still lower than 6k.

  23. orbo
    March 3, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    As the collective of PC users breathes in deep and shouts: That’s what we’ve been saying for years about everyone on macs!

    It’s no secret that macs are overprices garbage.
    Even the good ones that can keep up with high end pc’s (they don’t exist anymore, but all the more my point) they cost an extraordinary amount more.
    They’re idiot boxes for people who are more concerned about having a status symbol then a good computer.

  24. Jumanji Joe
    Jumanji Joe
    March 3, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    I’d support occulus rift if it wasn’t so overpriced.

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    March 3, 2016 at 4:27 pm

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  26. No_Good_Names_Ever
    March 3, 2016 at 4:28 pm

    The best kind of burn is the truth.

  27. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    March 3, 2016 at 4:28 pm

    The irony being that you could self build a PC that can run VR for like half the price of a Mac that doesn’t even come close and use the spare cash to buy the VR headset

  28. dasCameo
    March 3, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    they probably have over the top RAM and CPU or some bullshit, but MACs were usually not used for video games until a few years ago, so I cant say I am surprised at macs not having good GPUs.

  29. Amon
    March 3, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    What to be noted here is the purpose of the computer not it price range.
    The FirePro line of AMD’s graphics card (much like Nvidia’s Quadro) are meant for professional workstation (CAD/CAM/CAE, graphic design or even complex scientific simulation). They also feature ECC memory (error correcting code) which cost a hell of a lot more than your standard GDDR5 or DDR3/4.
    These PC’s weren’t meant for gaming so there is no reason to even cite them as an example.
    However Apple doesn’t do gaming just either your hip laptop that “just works” or a workstation that also “just works”.

  30. Maciej Bącal
    Maciej Bącal
    March 3, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    i don’t know if you noticed but Macbook Pro is smaller than an average bread cutting board

    apples and oranges

  31. Clairity
    March 3, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    CPU: i7-6700k – $400
    GPU: GTX 980 Ti x2 (or Fury X x2) – $1200
    Mobo: Asus Maximus VIII Extreme – $500
    RAM: G-Skill Ripjaws VIII DDR4-3000 4×16(64GB) – $400
    SSD: Samsung 850 Evo Series 1TB – $300
    Case: Phanteks Enthoo Primo – $250
    Cooling: EK-Watercooling Parts – ~$300
    Monitor: 4k g-sync/freesync – ~$500

    All in all, that comes to around $3950 and blows a $6000 Mac out of the fucking water. I guestimated the cost of the watercooling parts, but really the cost wouldn’t be more than a few hundred dollars more as a worst-case scenario.

  32. Moscato359
    March 3, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    The fact that they don’t support high end gaming cards, at all, for any build, ever, cuts an entire segment of marketability

  33. GrimFate
    March 3, 2016 at 5:16 pm


    Note: This seems like an objective view on the topic, NOT a biased fanboy, anti-Mac attack.

    I think this was the video I watched ages ago on why Mac’s aren’t good for gaming. If I remember correctly, Mac’s WERE popular for gaming in the 80’s, but Apple decided to change direction towards productivity, because they thought it would be more profitable. Hence why you have a $6k Mac that can’t handle the Rift; it’s intended for productivity, not gaming.

  34. Zombie_Barioth
    March 3, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    I tend to see more people go with Mac because they want something that “just works” more than anything else, so I have to disagree on the “idiot box” somewhat.

    Where that really come in is when you have people willing to pay an extra few hundred, if not more, for slightly less cheap feeling plastic because it’ll “last longer”. Or they “have to have” one for media production. Schools also get deals on them for their classrooms.

  35. morzinbo
    March 3, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    >Implying you don’t have a choice between mac and non-mac
    >Implying you don’t have a choice between rift and vive

  36. Master Bating
    Master Bating
    March 3, 2016 at 7:26 pm

    Please dont use meme arrows, the text does not become green here.

    You’re right thought, Occulus is a heap of shit.

  37. b6
    March 3, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    So according to that picture, a lot of Japanese are assholes, because the iPhone is by far the most selling phone here in Japan? Makes sense.

    Maybe you should stop enjoying anime and Jgames then? I mean, you don’t want to support those assholes right?!

  38. Casey
    March 3, 2016 at 8:37 pm

    Yeah but let’s be honest. It’s a segment apple cares nothing about.
    Never have, probably never will, and no IOS controller will change that.

  39. Casey
    March 3, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    The idiot box comment wasn’t referring to the quality of the computer.

    It was referring to the people who would buy said computer.

  40. dsadsada
    March 3, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    Idiot box means for people who lack either the knowledge or the desire to learn how to configure personal computers. In other words, they want something that ‘just works’ without having to do any major configuration.

  41. SpecialK
    March 3, 2016 at 9:00 pm

    Lol, wow, you genuinely haven’t seen memes before, have you? Internet much?

  42. dsadsada
    March 3, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    In a way that philosophy isn’t wrong either. I have an irrational hatred of Apple products.

    But the fact that you can do little to change it basically means uniformity throughout a business as well as reduced risk of messing something up on the machine. Productivity tools particularly in image editing and animation are also top notch on Apple products from what I understand. My company for example primarily uses PCs however our graphic designers were given Macs instead.

    6k is still a ripoff to me however.

  43. Zombie_Barioth
    March 4, 2016 at 12:33 am

    Yeah, I know, what I was disagreeing with was that being the primary reason.

    I see just as many, if not more comments on the supposedly superior build quality as I do the usual misconceptions such as “Macs don’t get viruses”.

    Even when arguing hardware cost people run back to being unable to match the ‘feel’ of a Mac as a counter argument.

  44. Mellow Isaac
    Mellow Isaac
    March 4, 2016 at 12:38 am

    Even Darth Vader didn’t get burned this badly

  45. Random Dude
    Random Dude
    March 4, 2016 at 3:17 am

    So strong it caused a bush fire here.

  46. Master Bating
    Master Bating
    March 4, 2016 at 6:05 am

    Thanks for making me look like an idiot.

    Hes still doing it wrong thought.

  47. Markrod420
    March 4, 2016 at 8:18 am

    Fuck you mac. Just wither away and die already. Jobs figured it out.

  48. Markrod420
    March 4, 2016 at 8:18 am

    god damn thats good…

  49. Markrod420
    March 4, 2016 at 8:20 am

    mac sucks and in a world of interconnectivity they stubbornly refuse to integrate with ANYTHING other than their own products. Not that thats what they are doing here. But in general, their company sucks all the dicks.

  50. Johnathon
    March 4, 2016 at 9:23 am

    I want to try this but I feel I’ll mess it up and have a jumble on the comment

  51. fnd
    March 4, 2016 at 11:29 am

    The ifag thing in Metal Gear Solid V sucks solid balls.

  52. morzinbo
    March 4, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    >oh boy the maymay police are here

  53. Miguel Angel Opazo Arancibia
    Miguel Angel Opazo Arancibia
    March 5, 2016 at 12:21 am

    Does anyone in the world uses mac for gaming ? I thought they were luxury items Hipters used in public triying to look cool.

  54. Dave
    March 5, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    Idiots do.