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NieR: Automata PC Version Fixes Still Being Worked On

When NieR: Automata launched for PC (via Steam), the game’s PC version had a lot of issues. That was back in March of this year, and the game is still having problems on PC – however it’s not entirely the developer’s fault.

An AMD driver update was released last month, which solved the crashing issue AMD users were experiencing. Now, we’ve learned Square Enix is working directly with hardware manufacturers to solve the rest of the game’s issues.

“Square Enix and PlatinumGames are working with PC device manufacturers, like AMD, to address the issues with the Steam version of the game because some of the issues are not what Square Enix and PlatinumGames alone can resolve fundamentally,” the company said in a statement to Eurogamer.

“With AMD’s help, Square Enix and PlatinumGames have successfully resolved some of the issues, and we hope to achieve similar results with other hardware makers. We appreciate your continued patience and support for Nier: Automata.”

So there you have it – the game’s PC version is still being worked on, unfortunately we don’t have an ETA when those fixes are coming. In case you missed it, you can find our thorough written and video review for NieR: Automata here (we highly recommend it!).

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129 comments
  1. Galaga81
    Galaga81
    July 12, 2017 at 10:48 am

    NieR seriously needs native multimonitor support.

  2. Galaga81
    Galaga81
    July 12, 2017 at 10:52 am

    I just started watching One Piece for the first time about three weeks ago. Only eight episodes in, but I’m absolutely loving it. Tried one of the games on Steam and it was another generic Dynasty Warriors clone which I quickly requested a refund for. Hopefully we get something more unique and deserving here.

  3. Ruggarell
    Ruggarell
    July 12, 2017 at 10:54 am

    LMAO while I get to play the bug free PS4 version

    Enjoy your scraps PC dick suckers.

  4. 13penguins
    13penguins
    July 12, 2017 at 10:55 am

    Nice bait there bro. Should catch some fish with that.

  5. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 11:18 am

    >still being worked on
    >sold less than 500k units
    >less than 1/4 of all sales
    >its still costing platinum/square money to work on
    why do any developers waste their time with pc gaming? Can this even be justified?

  6. Vitor Santos
    Vitor Santos
    July 12, 2017 at 11:25 am

    i thought they meant fixes like that lightning shtick I heard about at launch that when turned off via mods literaly doubled your framerate without any noticeable difference in graphics. has that been fixed?

  7. alterku
    alterku
    July 12, 2017 at 11:26 am

    The PC issues are why I haven’t bought this game yet. Thank goodness some people including the developers realize the long tail PC game sales have which makes ensuring a quality release (even if it means eventually) worthwhile.

  8. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    July 12, 2017 at 11:32 am

    I’m sure they have exponentially larger and based metrics than yours. So yes.

  9. Brownninja97 .
    Brownninja97 .
    July 12, 2017 at 11:43 am

    Yes, the potential sales is still a lot higher which yes is lower then console but money is money and if the patch fixes all the bugs and the game sells even 100k more thats still a lot of money which definitely outweighs the costs

  10. totenglocke
    totenglocke
    July 12, 2017 at 12:02 pm

    They could have saved a lot of hassles and expenses if they just did it right the first time.

  11. Some furf
    Some furf
    July 12, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    How about removing Denuvo, maybe that would help.

  12. braneman
    braneman
    July 12, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    Oh yeah, TOTALLY, those are issues they can’t fix. Even though somebody already released a fix for those issues, themselves.
    You know why the game performs like crap? Every cutscene is encoded as an MPEG1 FILE at 40 megabits, FORTY MEGABITS. They aren’t even 1080p videos and even if they were that bitrate is at least ten times higher than you would ever need. They’re using a standard set in place around the time of Windows 3.1 to encode their videos when everything on the planet almost regardless of how cheap it is has hardware in it to play 1080p .h264 video flawlessly.
    The game was coded so badly it’s a joke, just the cutscenes alone should have had these developers laughed out of the industry. And I haven’t even talked about the lighting.

  13. Malcolm_Ecks
    Malcolm_Ecks
    July 12, 2017 at 12:53 pm

    Calm down bro.

  14. Malcolm_Ecks
    Malcolm_Ecks
    July 12, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    I beat the game. Its fine unless you’re on AMD.

  15. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    July 12, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    Yeah, Global Illumination is turned on on the highest setting by default, massively inflating the system requirements even though the game isn’t that visually impressive.

    And yes you still need the FAR mod to lower the setting. And no the full screen bug hasn’t been fixed either.

  16. Manwhore
    Manwhore
    July 12, 2017 at 12:57 pm

    You do realize that you can still make a lot of money from just selling 500K copies right? Think of it this way, if the game was initially made with the PS4 in mind most of the money put into the game (which it looks like SE did not put too much money into the game because it does look like it has issues even on the PS4 version according to digital foundry and I’m guessing that mainly has to do with SE not expecting the game to do as well as it has seeing how it’s the sequel to a niche game that didn’t seem to sell that well anyway). Now I’m no expert but I highly doubt that it cost millions of dollars to make a PC port (maybe a few hundred thousand but definitely not a few million dollars). SE very likely could have sold even more copies on PC had the game not had any of the issues that it currently has, I mean it was one of the best selling games during the Steam Summer and people took notice of that which I’m guessing is why SE is still looking into fixing the game since try realized that they can still make a lot more money by fixing some of the issues (that once again I highly doubt will cost them millions of dollars to fix) when it comes to PC ports SE and KT typically do a mediocre job at it where as SEGA and Bandai normally do a job job at it, Bandai has made a lot of money off the Dark Souls games which on average have each sold 1 million copies (a big portion of the Dark Souls copies sold are on PC compared to the PS3,Xbox 360,Xbox One and PS4). Also how much do you think these companies are making from these PC version?

  17. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    July 12, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    I’m surprised prerendered cut scenes are still a thing in the first place.

  18. Manwhore
    Manwhore
    July 12, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    I blame their budget (I think they were even asking for more money from SE at some point)

  19. Manwhore
    Manwhore
    July 12, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    Even the PS4 Version has issues dude

  20. Manwhore
    Manwhore
    July 12, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    The only two issues that I have with the PC port is that in getting between 40-60 FPs most of the time which is not too terrible (I’ve heard about the game crashing on other people luckily that has not happened to me asides from one time). In pretty content with the game though. I also did wish that the cutscenes we’re not pre-rendered. It’s one of the issues that Platinum Games have had with some of their other games like Metal Gear Rising where the game looks great but then the cutscenes at locked at 30 Fps

  21. RichardGristle
    RichardGristle
    July 12, 2017 at 1:14 pm

    But 500K copies is a shit ton even for a non-niche title, which NieR:A is not.

  22. RichardGristle
    RichardGristle
    July 12, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    Na most people know he’s a fucking retard. I think the catch will be kinda dry.

  23. Bitterbear
    Bitterbear
    July 12, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    Which is ironic if you consider that the PS4 uses an AMD chip.

  24. No_Good_Names_Ever
    No_Good_Names_Ever
    July 12, 2017 at 1:50 pm

    Heh, I bet Intel had something to do with this.

  25. Chili
    Chili
    July 12, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    >sold less than 500k units
    That’s faster and better and at a higher price than every other Japanese game Square has published on PC. Its sold/is selling better than their Final Fantasy games. This is fantastic sales quite frankly. Maybe less than 1/4 of all sales, but it also sold pretty much the same amount as the first week of the Japanese release when released on PC also within the first week, and these games are made with Japan in mind first I believe. Also keep in mind that the lack of physical publishing means more money actually goes back to them thanks to not having to put out the expense for physical discs.

    Also its important for developers to support PC gaming because it ensure developers can continue to sell their titles long into the future and allows their games to scale with hardware, thus avoiding their games, or rather, their artpieces, from dying with time.

  26. Chili
    Chili
    July 12, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    Is it really scraps if it released around the same time as the PS4 version? Plus its capable of running better and looking better on PC provided you have the right hardware, and it scales with hardware so it won’t die with time. Its not really scraps.

  27. すろぉもぉしょん
    すろぉもぉしょん
    July 12, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    What issues?

  28. lucben999
    lucben999
    July 12, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    This is Squeenix, the patch will probably just upgrade Denuvo and not fix anything.

  29. lucben999
    lucben999
    July 12, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    It also sucks that your costumes don’t show up in cutscenes.

    Oh and that the 60 gigaboos download is 90% uncompressed video.

  30. edge
    edge
    July 12, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    I beat it on amd, I’m thinking it must be lower end. The only issue I ever encountered was when i killed a boss at the same time I died, which caused the screen to go white, but still let me push buttons to get through the cutscene.

  31. edge
    edge
    July 12, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    Yeah, it’s not that bad at all and you’re overreacting quite a bit. You should try playing pubg sometime to see what bad programming looks like.

  32. Feniks
    Feniks
    July 12, 2017 at 4:50 pm

    Depends. Most PS4 sales up till now were at full price.

    If by the time they fix it the game price is down to $€20 it’s a waste of time.

  33. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    PS4 sold 740k, PC sold 500k, that’s a whole lot more than 1/4th of sales, you’re a fucking liar.

    500k is what it has sold as of now on PC, it is a lot, a really big lot, that’s a lot of money.
    Are you retarded?

  34. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    The game shipped 2m units, if you don’t know, the game is steam exclusive on PC. Your sales are digital only, and it’s kinda sad that PC which has been essentially digital only for a decade is being eclipsed by a 5 year old platform. So much for the master race, right? Can’t even support the best game of the decade.

  35. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 8:03 pm

    My sales numbers are taken directly from steamspy which is accurate to a 24 hr period. I’m also using information based on squares own statements which indicate that 2M units have been sold, and if only 495K units of those are on PC…1/4th of the total sales is on the PC. PS4 is therefore 75% of the market of this game and the game has been an undeniably better experience on PS4 since day 1.

    Feel free to kys for being this fucking dumb.

  36. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    too costly for such a small audience. Do some basic economics and get back to me child.

  37. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    PC gaming isn’t as big as everyone has said and sales expectations need to be culled, and PC goyim need to stop fucking lying.

  38. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    500K is what the game was expected to get in its lifetime, console sales blew expectations away, PC sales are practically a tip jar. step the fuck up PC gamers if you want to be taken seriously as an actual market.

  39. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    Ships aren’t sales.
    btfo

  40. Chocolate ISISCream
    Chocolate ISISCream
    July 12, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    so this… is the power… of the pc master race…. whoa…

  41. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    they don’t make money from gamestops sales. they make money from selling those copies to gamestop to sell to you retard

  42. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 8:12 pm

    should just buy it on the drm free platform, the ps4. pc has been shit this generation in case you’ve been living under a rock.

  43. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    July 12, 2017 at 9:21 pm

    Again, I’m sure they have exponentially larger and based metrics than yours. If you believe that a large international corporation is limited to just those metrics, then of course you’d be willed to pose such a ridiculously myopic question. The response was to the stupid question, not a dispute of what you posted beforehand.

  44. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    July 12, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    Not every “AAA” or hyped release on PC is a “must have” or “must look into” like on consoles. A game like NeiR faces much stiffer competition and it’s not just from any one or a few particular games released during that cycle. Not sure why you’re so concerned with sales figures. These types of what used to be console only games are coming to PC and only growing larger and at a faster rate no matter what the sales say whether you like it or not. They’re just “tip jars”? Ok, so what? I buy all the Japanese crap on PC and the only issues I ever have is with Square games. Square are the ones who need to step it up.

  45. chocodino
    chocodino
    July 12, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    Anything over 170$ for a processor is a waste of money if what you want is to play games, also, anything over 50$ for the ram is a waste (the higher speed is unnoticeable), for the motherboard, once again, more than 100$ is a waste and it’s the same for the memory, liquid cooling is completely unnecessary , as for the power supply unless you need one with an incredibly high wattage, more than 70$ is a waste.

    This last 2 are just personal, but I would never spend more than 50 on a case, nor more than 150 in a video card.

    I get your point, it’s a lot easier to play N:A on a PS4, but don’t blame the computer or the price of it, because that is not the problem, the problem is the game itself, something that they will (supposedly) fix

  46. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 12, 2017 at 9:58 pm

    Shipments and digital sales mean money for publishers.
    physical sales means money for retailers.

  47. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 10:02 pm

    They’re not on the hands of actual players. A waste.

  48. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 10:04 pm

    Implying they didn’t have to pay for printing, burning, packaging, etc.

  49. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    they will be, thats the point of shipping them to retail.

  50. The Clansman
    The Clansman
    July 12, 2017 at 10:06 pm

    >be Chocolate ISISCream
    >born retarded

  51. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 10:06 pm

    Still brand new first print copies of years old good games on retailer shelves.

  52. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:07 pm

    refute him if he’s wrong, otherwise stay cucked to the overweight gremlin in washington, goy :^)

  53. The Clansman
    The Clansman
    July 12, 2017 at 10:07 pm

    Only a retard would take him seriously.

  54. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:08 pm

    only a retard would miss the broader point being made

  55. The Clansman
    The Clansman
    July 12, 2017 at 10:08 pm

    “no u”

  56. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:11 pm

    damn a wit so sharp we’re going back to 2005 memes

  57. The Clansman
    The Clansman
    July 12, 2017 at 10:11 pm

    that’s the discussion you’re having right now bro

  58. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:13 pm

    >cry ad hominem
    >get told to prove him wrong
    >misses the point and insists its about the person
    >gets told theres a greater point that hes ignoring
    >out of context memes
    this became sad long ago

  59. The Clansman
    The Clansman
    July 12, 2017 at 10:14 pm

    >buy pc
    >download fix and enjoy Nier Automata at 8k 120fps with xbox one elite controller for free because you pirated it

    >buy ps4
    >batteries ran out on controller
    >game is $70 plus tax
    >a whole lot of dips if you don’t have a ps4 pro
    >your gf cheats on you with a black man

  60. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 12, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    This kind of operation is pretty cheap and are never been expansive
    Edit: it’s a small percentage to the retail price

  61. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:17 pm

    yep, overestimated stock, nier automata if you haven’t notice has only just began to decline in its rate of sales after months of steady sales. It’s due for a seasonal bump in fall, and a holiday bump, and inevitably a re-release bump as a budget title.

    Really it’s basic games economics. Learn to read this shit if you want to talk about this.

  62. The Clansman
    The Clansman
    July 12, 2017 at 10:17 pm

    lmao this cuck really thinks he has a point

  63. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:18 pm

    yeah we’re talking sub dollar costs for each unit due to the way bulk productions work. It’s a meme pc goyim attempt to use to insist how digital is better.

    frankly the price of physical units far outweighs the fucking scam that is digital distribution.

  64. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:21 pm

    now its just embarrassing, feel free to stop

  65. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    Then you can’t claim that console has sold that much more than PC, if the copies are just sitting on store shelves.

  66. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:24 pm

    I can because
    1. objectively it has
    2. it also shipped units that square/platinum all saw profit from
    3. because even in the digital realm which is the only space PC exists in it is overtaken by the PS4
    you really have no leg to stand on.

  67. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 10:25 pm

    Sub dollar costs…
    Digital is f r e e
    I have nothing against physical copies, but you can’t claim copies sitting on shelves as sales, retailers bought them, but nobody is playing them.

  68. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:28 pm

    >but you can’t claim copies sitting on shelves as sales.
    I don’t care about gamestops finances. digital also isn’t free, valve takes a 30% cut. You are just clueless, aren’t you?

  69. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 10:29 pm

    Not really, just take a look at League of Legends or DOTA 2. Nothing digital on console can compare to that.

  70. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 10:32 pm

    His prices are all wrong.
    Rest is just straw man galore.

  71. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    yeah nothing says a killer market like a free to play game that relies on a skinner box model of mobile-tier transactions to profit off of its consumerbase. really signing the health of the PC community there, really showing there’s a future for AA and AAA games in the PC space by using a free to play game as an icon of the health of the PC.

    Gonna take the foot out of your mouth now?

  72. Exien
    Exien
    July 12, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    Please be just a bad joke. If it is don’t read further, if not well then go check your brain or atleast check the Steam forums.

  73. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 10:34 pm

    That was never the argument, straw-man-man.
    We were talking about money, not what type of game.

  74. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:34 pm

    you don’t have any arguments.

  75. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 10:35 pm

    I refuted your points, you should get checked out at a doctor, you’re not well.

  76. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:35 pm

    I wish I could be as delusional as you.

  77. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 10:46 pm

    Alright, let’s see if you understand.

    Only with actual copies in the hands of players, can you generate hype and interest in the franchise.

    Shipped copies don’t mean sh!t to the future of a franchise, copies being played do.

    Easy example: What helps Sony are PS4s in player’s homes, not PS4s sitting on shelves.

  78. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 12, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    It means a lot because high shipment number means strong ask from retailers due to strong sales to customer, being out of stock is not a good things for retailers. Being on shelves means a better visibilities to a larger and more casual crowd which doesn’t necessary go on site like nichegamer or have a shitty internet connection to download games.

  79. reblinds
    reblinds
    July 12, 2017 at 10:56 pm

    tried explaining that to him, he doesn’t seem to understand basic economics.

  80. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 11:00 pm

    Copies in the hands of players are much more important than that.

    Again, plenty of games with first print mint copies still sitting on shelves, years after launch, good games too.

  81. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    What guarantees a franchise’s future is the number of copies being played, not the number of copies floating around.

  82. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 12, 2017 at 11:11 pm

    No it’s the money the publishers and the devs got from it. A strong shipments means they will produce more physicals copies for the sequel. You can have games played by more gamers than actual units sold due to used market when only the retailers get money

  83. Exien
    Exien
    July 12, 2017 at 11:11 pm

    Don’t try it they don’t want to understand it. The PC maket makes the
    most money for years that is a fact and even a loss is not always a
    loss. there is far more to it than simple “sales”. How i know these
    things because i studied at an university with economics has my major
    field, so i know my basic.

  84. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 12, 2017 at 11:23 pm

    The most important is the gamedev and the publishers makes money from the games.You are just moving the goal post because the console PS4 version(both digital and physical) outsold the PC version (digital only) . In physical market the publishers gains money by selling their games to retailers.

  85. entropy
    entropy
    July 12, 2017 at 11:24 pm

    This is what a triggered console pleb looks like.

    Manifests much like small man syndrome.

  86. entropy
    entropy
    July 12, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    2016 PC game revenue: $36 billion.

    2016 ALL console games: $7 billion.

    You can stop the autistic screeching now, pleb.

  87. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 12, 2017 at 11:34 pm

    PS4 only actually sold 740k most of it physical, PC definitely surpassed it in digital sales.

    Do you want to start with the shipped copies thing again? You know who else shipped a lot of copies? Daikatana, E.T.

    Shipped copies are no measurement of success. No amount of of money made from shipments saved those games. Actual copies being played are what matter.

  88. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 12, 2017 at 11:41 pm

    PC market makes money from micro transaction and Free to play games, Chinese market is a huge contributor to its growth, Tencent despite being completely unknown in the west makes more money than Steam.

    Many licenses which were exclusive to PC started to move to console since the PS2 era and gain a wide appeal, it’s the main reason why Microsoft which was mainly on PC launched the Xbox due to fear game studio gave up on PC platform.

    You can claim PC market makes more money than console which is true but games made for the console market made more money on console than on PC. Only big license have numbers which match the console numbers.

    Digital sales can be profitable in low numbers because publishers has a better gains from the price

  89. Exien
    Exien
    July 12, 2017 at 11:57 pm

    Boy just stop it.

    “games made for the console market made more money on console than on PC.” And guess what games aimed for the PC maket make more money on PC than on console.

    “why Microsoft which was mainly on PC launched the Xbox due to fear game studio gave up on PC platform.” And they turn back because they realize they were big idiots.

    “Many licenses which were exclusive to PC started to move to console since the PS2 era and gain a wide appeal” Yeah because they had brought the rights of many games and maked them exclusives.

    “Only big license have numbers which match the console numbers.” Nope that is simply false.

  90. Exien
    Exien
    July 12, 2017 at 11:59 pm

    So you think there is gonna be a No Mans Sky 2, because after your logic they made a huge amount of money with the first title ?

  91. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 13, 2017 at 12:37 am

    You only base the PS4 sales on physical and forget the game sold both physically and digitally it has a better sucess on console then PC. In the same period game like NiOH and Persona 5 makes similar results despite being console exclusive

    E.T and Daikatana games were shit and sold like shit. They based their success on the big names behind them and didn’t live the expectation they generate. They overestimate their success. It’s like the VR market. Occulus failed spectacularly despite having big name behind it it’s being oustold by the PSVR

    Shipment’ success depend on the ask and supply, in clear how fast the stock are empty and refill. The shipment of the game match the sales numbers

  92. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 13, 2017 at 12:45 am

    No, 740k is both physical and digital ps4 copies.

    Daikatana proves that shipped copies are not a measurement of success.

    Shipments don’t match sales, again, Daikatana. Just stop.

  93. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 13, 2017 at 12:52 am

    “And guess what games aimed for the PC market make more money on PC than on console.” Most of the money on PC
    LoL, WoW, Dota 2, Hearstone, etc are more suited for PC than console, these games didn’t create a genre look at the failure of the moba market. Some games are more suited for a controller than a Keyboard most of this game doesn’t require a high end PC inb4 you can a PC for the price of the PS4, I own both console and PC. If you looks the hardware survey on steam http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ number based on the data collected directly from the user many steam users don’t meet the requirements to play many PC port released at the same time console.

    Steam is the reason they come back, they were not big idiots because many license which started on PC gains a wider appeals see the Witcher, Fallout, they still sales more on PC but gains a wider appeals thanks to console.

    “”Many licenses which were exclusive to PC started to move to console
    since the PS2 era and gain a wide appeal” Yeah because they had brought
    the rights of many games and maked them exclusives.” Deus Ex, Max Payne, Hitman, were released both on PC and consoles on that era, Ubisoft (when they were great), Eidos were released both on PC and Console, even GTA started to be released on PC during this period too. Most of the exclusive were Japanese and PC was considered a niche market in Japan but many western devs released their game on both console and PC.

    “”Only big license have numbers which match the console numbers.” Nope that is simply false.” Prove it

  94. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 13, 2017 at 12:54 am

    Where do you pull the 740k please

    only one example despite having many games making success during the same period until now it’s the ultimate proof ok

  95. Ebicentre
    Ebicentre
    July 13, 2017 at 1:02 am

    Considering NieR:Automata has sold consistently in the top 5/top 10 during the Summer sale, they might want to fix these issues ASAP. Seriously, selling that well against GTA5 is a titanic success.

  96. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 13, 2017 at 1:21 am

    Vgcharts are not reliable Media Create and NPD are more reliable and they are physical only no digital sales. Congratulation You played yourself.

  97. SinkingSage
    SinkingSage
    July 13, 2017 at 1:26 am

    Official PR puts the game at 1.5 Million shipped and digital sales.
    500k are PC. You do the math.

    Just stop.

  98. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 13, 2017 at 1:28 am

    You are strawmaning my point. No Mans Sky has a large number of copy which ends in the hands of players too does it means it’s a success. Because all the discussion is about if the success of game can be measured by the number of sale or the numbers of people who played it

  99. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 13, 2017 at 2:21 am

    I do the math 740k from http://www.vgchartz.com/game/86399/nier-automata/ (physical sales based on North America, Europe and Japan, Middle East and other Asian countries are not included) + 484,832 Owners more or less 20,427 it means it could be 500k or 460k http://steamspy.com/app/524220 = 1,224,832

    1,500,000 – 1,224,832 =275168

    275,168 estimate is both the digital sales and physical shipment which means the number on shelves can be lower than that. if we remove the PSN parts.

    The PS4 version weighed for 1,015,168 which is estimated by the shipments and Digital. The physical owner on PS4 reach nearly 75% and we didn’t know the digital owner as only Sony and Square Enix knew them.

    Since the beginning you are stating the both the physical and Digital numbers are based on Vgcharts which measure the physical only. Your 740k argument for PS4 for both physically and digitally is completely wrong. Steam Spy based their data from limited number of user profiles and thus isn’t 100% correct. they stated it themselves http://steamspy.com/about

    None of this numbers are accurate, you are deluding yourself since the beginning.

    Only SE, Sony and Valve knew the true numbers and they rarely gave them (especially digital ones) when they are bad. 1,500,000 it’s the only officially known number of the equations

    Edit: add weight

  100. Exien
    Exien
    July 13, 2017 at 2:33 am

    Ok now it clear that you have no idea what you are talking about.
    MOBA faliure ?!!! they make a shit ton of money, oh only 20 Mio$ price money for dota 2. Steam hardware survey is complety garbage and many don’t send them their data. You can hook a controler to your pc too. PC are not about High End and are not Expensive in fact they are cheaper. Microsoft is not putting their games on Steam they have their Windows Store (try get Gears of War 4 on steam). Prove it Minecraft and Ark both low buget/Indi games. By the way i will not reply to your any more just because PC sales are almost the same as PS4 and you will not face it, NO your “shippment” argument is not valid because many will/ already have send their copies back and these who cant will suffer losses from it to either sold them for very cheap or they stuck in their warhouse were they only make cost for them.

  101. entropy
    entropy
    July 13, 2017 at 2:47 am

    Games made for console sell better on consoles because PC gamers know the ports will be half-arsed and unoptimised, full of bugs and compatibility issues, have shitty controls with probably no remapping, feature radial menus and QTEs,

  102. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 13, 2017 at 3:21 am

    or Waited the sales on Steam to buy them at a cheap price. PC games won’t disappear.

    Console has the advantage to have an uniformed architecture contrary to PC. Despite middle gen Upgrade like PS4 Pro New 3DS and X Box X, the games are mostly built for the older architecture first

  103. Kainevil Rc
    Kainevil Rc
    July 13, 2017 at 3:26 am

    LOL, the fanboyism is such strong with that one

  104. gwadahunter2222
    gwadahunter2222
    July 13, 2017 at 3:40 am

    Most of Moba shares are around around two games LoL and Dota, Smite manage to survive because was visually different how many clones were launched before failing spectacularly(DC infinite crisis), it’s the same shit fo WoW people tried to emulate the formula before going free to play. Same for Overwatch (I don’t speak about battleborn, Gearbox decide to kill the game to send it against Blizzard), Paladin survive because it’s free to play.

    I know the shit about the controller, I own two PS2/PC controller a Xbox 360 ones and use my PS4 one for fighting games.

    “Microsoft is not putting their games on Steam they have their Windows Store (try get Gears of War 4 on steam).” I Can say the same thing for EA now with Origin or for any Blizzard Games thank to Battle.net. They succeed because they sold their own games mostly. See Call of Duty fiasco on Windows Store

    “PC are not about High End and are not Expensive in fact they are cheaper” The part to build my PC cost me the double of the price of my PS4 and it’s not a beast (i5-4460 and AMD R9-270X) due to tax. I built it before buying the PS4.

    “Prove it Minecraft and Ark both low buget/Indi games” They count as big license the size is not determined by their budget wether they are indie or not but by their notoriety. It’s the same for Fallout or the Witcher they start on PC and built their notoriety on PC they get more popular thanks to console port but they are first PC game. Their controls are mostly the combo Keyboard PC you want to emulate with a console controller. You confirmed my previous point

    “By the way i will not reply to your any more just because PC sales are
    almost the same as PS4, NO your “shippment” use not valid because many
    will/ already have send their copies back and these who cant will suffer
    losses from it.” On what you are basing yourselves to state that. The same shit happens to the Windows Store with the Call of Duty fiasco. And it can happen on Steam now with the refund option.

  105. PVX
    PVX
    July 13, 2017 at 3:53 am

    Sounds like you have experienced it already.

  106. OSad
    OSad
    July 13, 2017 at 3:55 am

    Cool. I had zero issues playing this game, but I did install that unofficial patcher with whatever fixes it had pretty early on.

    Nice to see that they haven’t given up whatever needs to be fixed, I guess.

  107. R6ex
    R6ex
    July 13, 2017 at 5:40 am

    Yup. Still waiting for an official fix before I buy it. Otherwise, I’ll just watch the cutscenes on Youtube. Otherwise, we will be encouraging developers to sell broken games.

  108. le master trole
    le master trole
    July 13, 2017 at 6:29 am

    >current year
    >mpeg1

    JUST
    U
    S
    T

  109. le master trole
    le master trole
    July 13, 2017 at 6:31 am

    that’s no excuse for using ancient codecs

  110. le master trole
    le master trole
    July 13, 2017 at 6:34 am

    >PC
    >small audience
    brainlet spotted

  111. le master trole
    le master trole
    July 13, 2017 at 6:35 am

    stay mad peasant
    the goy is you who is overpaying for a subpar experience
    at least use your /pol/ memes right

  112. le master trole
    le master trole
    July 13, 2017 at 6:37 am

    your butt status:
    CRITICAL, RUPTURE IMMINENT

  113. le master trole
    le master trole
    July 13, 2017 at 6:41 am

    >can overclock passed 300mhz
    >passed

    okay, now you’ve made me mad

  114. le master trole
    le master trole
    July 13, 2017 at 6:43 am

    aww, our resident sonygger found a friend

    Chocolate ISISCream x reblinds

    top 10 anime couples

  115. ArcticTaicho
    ArcticTaicho
    July 13, 2017 at 10:25 am

    Same here.

  116. alterku
    alterku
    July 13, 2017 at 12:25 pm

    I am. :,(

  117. totenglocke
    totenglocke
    July 13, 2017 at 1:17 pm

    Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha ????

    PC gaming has more players than all consoles combined. Add in infinite backwards compatibility and PC will always get developers the most sales.

  118. Professor_Icepick
    Professor_Icepick
    July 13, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    Are one of the fixes in question gonna be the removal of that malware Denuvo?

  119. Zack Attack
    Zack Attack
    July 13, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    What!? It has that shitty DRM? Fuck that, I’m sticking with the PS4 version.

  120. Darth Jar Jar
    Darth Jar Jar
    July 13, 2017 at 11:17 pm

    I realize I’m in the vast majority of PC gamers who have played the game with no issues what so ever, but to openly knock the game for issues or bugs that you have not experienced yet because you haven’t even played the game seems a little absurd to me. That’s like reading reviews for games or movies before playing it and saying it sucks. Play it before you make your decision. It’s an amazing game with a truly breathtaking experience. I just beat it and am onto my second play through. If you are interested in it, just get, and if you do experience issues or bugs, well then complain after you’ve received them not before.

  121. Nagato
    Nagato
    July 14, 2017 at 4:51 am

    Having to play through Automata in either scenario would be worse a punishment than getting cucked, honestly.

  122. Pina Everlue
    Pina Everlue
    July 14, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    PC MASTER RACE! (we have ALL the games that matter)

  123. GameZard
    GameZard
    July 18, 2017 at 4:46 am

    Oh the SegaSlave came back.

  124. GameZard
    GameZard
    July 18, 2017 at 4:47 am

    Yes he is.

  125. GameZard
    GameZard
    July 18, 2017 at 4:49 am

    Even though the consoles are basically lowend PCS.

  126. showtime sports fight 2017
    showtime sports fight 2017
    August 2, 2017 at 2:08 am

    “With AMD’s help, Square Enix and PlatinumGames have successfully resolved some of the issues, and we hope to achieve similar results with other hardware makers. We appreciate your continued patience and support for Nier: Automata.”