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New Paris Games Week 2017 Trailer for The Last of Us Part II

Sony Interactive Entertainment and Naughty Dog have shared a new trailer for The Last of Us Part II.

Featured above, the new trailer shows off more of the upcoming sequel, and how it fits into Ellie and Joel’s story.

Here’s a rundown on the trailer via Naughty Dog creative director Neil Druckmann:


At its core, The Last of Us is still very much about Ellie and Joel, but for this reveal, we wanted to showcase several new characters that are integral to their next journey. We’re sure you have many questions after watching this scene. We’re also pretty sure that we’re going to see all sorts of theories about whom these characters are, where and when this scene takes place, and how all of this fits into Ellie and Joel’s next story. For now we’re keeping mum, but we’re excited to see what y’all make of this piece of the puzzle.

With all of Naughty Dog working on The Last of Us Part II, we’re making great headway into the project. From art, technology, gameplay, and story, this is by far our most ambitious game yet. You’re in for an intense, beautiful, harrowing, and emotionally moving ride. We’re extremely proud of the game we’re crafting and can’t wait to show you even more – and we promise you won’t have to wait as long for the next big reveal!


The Last of Us Part II is currently in development for PlayStation 4.

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107 comments
  1. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    October 30, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    Can’t wait for the violence against women comments from SJWs. Druckmann deserves that backlash.

  2. Maelstrom
    Maelstrom
    October 30, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    At first, the concept of a 2nd last of us game scared me, because there was no way it could ever beat the original while trying to stay in the same setting or reusing anything from the original. This looks like an interesting setting, and I’m quite curious to see how it will turn out.

  3. Immahnoob
    Immahnoob
    October 30, 2017 at 4:22 pm

    Are these the new legendary POCs? Oh happy day.

  4. Mr0303
    Mr0303
    October 30, 2017 at 4:45 pm

    Did you just assume xir’s gender?

  5. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    October 30, 2017 at 5:29 pm

    The Last Bulldyke among Us 2.

  6. RichardGristle
    RichardGristle
    October 30, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    Holy shit. That’s a chick?

  7. [Your Unoriginal Name Here]™
    [Your Unoriginal Name Here]™
    October 30, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    What the hell is running through Neil’s head…. Is this what he defines as strong females, make them muscular and dyke-ish??

    Anyways I’m not that excited for this game but am keeping an open mind to it. I don’t think this will top the first game either.

  8. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 30, 2017 at 6:57 pm

    Wow, three women in one scene? And a lady as lead baddy in the scene? How progressive

  9. Dr. Roswell. W
    Dr. Roswell. W
    October 30, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    I stand by my question.

  10. Ninjagai
    Ninjagai
    October 30, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    It’s the Walking Dead, in case you weren’t tired of that yet.

  11. 2501
    2501
    October 30, 2017 at 7:30 pm

    Man, im sure gonna look forward to the 40+ articles from Polygon and Buzzfeed about how “Progressive” this game is.

  12. buddyluv324
    buddyluv324
    October 30, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    HAH!

  13. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 30, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    Because women can be muscular too? And some look hot when they are?

  14. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 30, 2017 at 8:31 pm

    I’m sure one of them’s a dude.

  15. mewnani
    mewnani
    October 30, 2017 at 8:31 pm

    Yeah but they’re usually not muscular like THAT. Even when built their frame at least looks feminine unless they’ve been hitting steroids hardcore.

  16. Dr. Roswell. W
    Dr. Roswell. W
    October 30, 2017 at 8:41 pm

    Sure, but that in TLOU? That’s a male body. Which brings us back to the question: Why didn’t they just use a male?

  17. Los Cules
    Los Cules
    October 30, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    I’m sure one of them’s a dude.

  18. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 30, 2017 at 10:40 pm

    There’s something wrong with his belly button.

  19. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 30, 2017 at 10:42 pm

    Dysfunction junction. Nothing new.

  20. ComX
    ComX
    October 30, 2017 at 11:11 pm

    Because women can be muscular too? And some look hot when they are?

  21. mewnani
    mewnani
    October 30, 2017 at 11:35 pm

    This is a rather unfortunate situation where her coming out later in the game as transgender would actually make more sense than her being just a girl.

  22. Neojames82
    Neojames82
    October 31, 2017 at 12:16 am

    Ewwww….EW EW EW EW EW!!!!!

  23. OldPalpy
    OldPalpy
    October 31, 2017 at 12:52 am

    The narrative is one hell of a drug. It’s a shame the actual gameplay designers and super talented tech engineers there have be pulled along for the ride.

  24. OldPalpy
    OldPalpy
    October 31, 2017 at 1:01 am

    That’s it journos try a repeat of your E3 2012 REEEEEEing over violence and watch as you drive more of your audience away, bring up a bunch of bullshit stats and make sure to blame video games for it because why not just stop beating around the bush and admit what you idiots have become.

  25. SLoWMoTIoN
    SLoWMoTIoN
    October 31, 2017 at 1:21 am

    Why are they so ugly? I don’t want to play as these devs girfriends.

  26. SLoWMoTIoN
    SLoWMoTIoN
    October 31, 2017 at 1:23 am

    Women aren’t naturally muscular. Those who do are on roids.

  27. Ebicentre
    Ebicentre
    October 31, 2017 at 2:42 am

    Druckmann did say he felt compelled to make progressive characters the more people complained about them. And now we have this.

    Thanks for saving my money, faggot!

  28. entropy
    entropy
    October 31, 2017 at 3:53 am

    Sure. To other lesbians.

    Apologies if I just outed you.

  29. Marco
    Marco
    October 31, 2017 at 5:49 am

    Are these the new legendary POCs? Oh happy day.

  30. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 8:06 am

    There are men that find muscular women attractive.

    You’re not ‘outing’ me. I’ve been out for a while.

  31. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 8:08 am

    Never send it was a good model. But I know I’d want to be jacked for more favorable suvivability.

  32. ProxyDoug
    ProxyDoug
    October 31, 2017 at 8:10 am

    While I do agree that the violence was overdone for shock value, which is just what Naughty Dog does these days and people applaud them for it, the only reason tehy cared is because it was done to women.
    So yeah, Polygon never learns.

  33. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 8:12 am

    Technically it’s neither a male or female body as the person attacted to it isn’t real. And thus had no DNA to determine sex.

    Here’s my question to you: why would you not want to be physically fit (or more so) in a time when you will mostly be fighting for your life?

  34. ProxyDoug
    ProxyDoug
    October 31, 2017 at 8:13 am

    Even so, she looks good. She has a defined belly and a nice neck.
    the character in the game has no breasts, a swollen neck and a square torso. It’s a completely masculinized version of a woman.

  35. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 8:13 am

    It’s a jooooooooke

  36. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 8:15 am

    I can see her breasts. So because they aren’t jiggling everywhere she has no breasts? And I never said it was a GOOD model.

  37. ProxyDoug
    ProxyDoug
    October 31, 2017 at 8:26 am

    I was comparing to a photo… Do you see the the photo jiggling?

  38. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 8:37 am

    And I was commenting on your inability to notice things in the video that aren’t senren kagura sized melons. You do know there are bust sizes other then D, right?

    Or are you simply saying there are no masculine women?

  39. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 9:36 am

    That’s a chick my dude. And the thing ‘wrong’ with her belly button is her 6 pack.

  40. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 31, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    It’s a man baby. And his belly button is off center.

  41. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 1:15 pm

    Pavel Ythjall is a woman. I’m sorry you can’t tell the differences in the sexes just because she is fit.

  42. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 31, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    Oh so you already knew that one of them three is actually a dude.

  43. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 1:24 pm

    Yeah, there are two guys holding the lady before she gets hung. Real easy to see.

  44. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 31, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    Oh. I didn’t even watch it. So there are three dudes then.

  45. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 1:30 pm

    >I didn’t even watch it

    Move along

  46. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 1:31 pm

    I’m sorry that you haven’t been around women enough to be able to tell the differences in the sexes.

  47. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 31, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    Why’d you delete your other response? Was it because “Pavel” translate to “Paul”?

  48. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 31, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    Obviously I’m trolling the hot topic here. Manly looking chicks. I don’t care enough about TLOU to spend however many seconds of my time on its trailer.

  49. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    Because thats the name of the guy that took the photo. Not the name of the woman in the photo. I made that mistake and corrected it. What’s your excuse?

    So why is your account on private? So no one can see your shit tier trolling?

  50. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 1:39 pm

    Oh is there what you are doing? I couldn’t tell with how badly you were doing it. I legit thought that you were ignorant.

  51. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 31, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    My excuse is that I’m not infatuated by chicks with dicks and showing how “sexy” they can be is not going to change my opinion of the manly chick in this game.

  52. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 31, 2017 at 1:44 pm

    Yeah that actually was pretty bad.

  53. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    Hahahahahaha! Who’s even talking about shemales? How’d your autism lead you to that logic?

  54. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 31, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    It was a joke from the beginning starting with “his” belly button. No need to be so insecure

  55. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    No need to be insecure with your lack in ability to troll

  56. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 31, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    Are you saying I’m a poor troll? Good. Cause trolling’s not my thing. Seriously though, that’s one ugly dude.

  57. Kakaku
    Kakaku
    October 31, 2017 at 5:33 pm

    Why not just show Joel and Ellie? Get people excited with characters they know, not some uninteresting nobodies.

  58. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    What I’m saying is this looks personal. I think that you got fooled by a tranny (or multiple trannies). And now anything that looks vaguely masculine to you…well…triggers you. You are so traumatized by this that you have to use ‘trolling’ as your scapegoat. And bad trolling at that! Maybe the incident(s?) have caused you to question your own sexuality. It’s okay man, let it out. It is the current year after all.

  59. entropy
    entropy
    October 31, 2017 at 9:54 pm

    There are men who find inanimate objects attractive but I’ve yet to see a game protagonist have a romantic relationship with a refrigerator.

    You’re just agitating for what you want to see by falsely claiming it has broader appeal than what it does. We’re used to such tactics from the entitled, insular and dishonest gay and SJW communities.

  60. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 31, 2017 at 9:58 pm

    That’s a pretty good analysis. I think you’re pretty much spot on. You got a chick’s name but sound like you’re probably a dude. So maybe you can help a brother with his struggle and let me get some of that sweet sweet dong.

  61. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    Nigga I ain’t saying you got to like it. Or advocating for pedophile or something. I’m saying some men like muscular women. Not a lot but some. That’s it. It’s like saying ‘there are some men who like to be cucked’. I’m not saying you have to like it. I’m not saying it’s good or bad. I’m just saying that it’s a thing.

    What I’m arguing is that a person who wants to protect themself in a world like TLoU would want to be fit. Specially if they are a woman. You know, the things that can carry children inside of them so they can repopulate the world if they figure out how to get rid of the fungus zombies? And it’s not just them but other humans out to kill them as well who could be stronger then them. I’d wanna be able to swing a bat hard enough to crack someone’s skull if that came about.

    “We’re used to such tactics from the entitled, insular and dishonest gay and SJW communities.” So much so in fact that you try to use the same tactics as them against other people.

  62. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 10:08 pm

    Looks like you got diddled again. Cause I’m a dirty tranny ^.~

  63. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    October 31, 2017 at 10:17 pm

    Aww hells yeah. I’m going in raw dog with the rash.

  64. entropy
    entropy
    October 31, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    What better way to battle hypocrites than by turning their own tactics against them?

    You make a good point about the apocalyptic setting but it’s based on some bizarre expectation that games must be realistic, which is of course is infected with double standards.

    If you want realism, have the female selling her body to secure protection from a man. Oh… but you don’t want ‘real’ realism, do you. You want aspirational lesbian realism.

    You want games to be real enough that female protagonists wear full plate armour rather than skimpy bikini armour…. but not so real that they fall over under the weight of them.

  65. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 10:41 pm

    I only accept dicks over 8 inches. Got to destroy every part of my body somehow.

  66. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    October 31, 2017 at 10:43 pm

    “It’s okay when WE do it!” Hmmm where have I heard that before.

    I mean, games like this are trying to be realistic. The women aren’t wearing tight fitting clothing or high heels. Joel isn’t a bold muscle man.

    I mean, who’s to say they aren’t? Who’s to say there ain’t breeding camps with women raped repeatedly to produce children to keep the population afloat? I mean they showed that being gay is around when that makes no sense at all to the survival of a species.

    Er…I mostly play rpgs and japanese games. I don’t think I advocate for more realism. I want game developers to make what they want to make. If it’s DD titted ladies then good for them. If it’s characters with good personalities and realistic armor; cool.

    As for your armor hypothetical, wouldn’t the woman under the armor have to be fit anyway to not fall down anyway?

  67. entropy
    entropy
    November 1, 2017 at 12:36 am

    I’m sure you’ve encountered the concepts of satire and reciprocity in many different places.

    Interestingly, developers used to make stacks of games with DD titted ladies, but that seemed to die off with the advent of social justice and screeching activists who want, amongst other demands, more lesbians and butch women.

    My point about the armour is that it’s more realistic for a female to wear a steel bikini than full plate, because even most men wouldn’t be able to stand in the latter. Yet SJWs only object to the bikini on the grounds of realism. Referencing, for example, the Divinity fiasco.

  68. PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS
    November 1, 2017 at 12:50 am

    It’s a date!

  69. The Watcher
    The Watcher
    November 1, 2017 at 1:13 am

    Polygon people just needs to cut the crap.

  70. drunken monk
    drunken monk
    November 1, 2017 at 4:00 am

    10/ 5 gameplay.

  71. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    November 1, 2017 at 11:30 am

    “Wearing LESS armor to protect your vital organs is MORE realistic”

    I think you need to put down the video games for a while. If maybe you said wearing leather armor is more realistic as it’s easy to move around in/wear and gives better overall protection then normal clothing I’d be willing to agree with you.

    Developers still make stacks of games with big titted ladies in them.

  72. VLOCKUP
    VLOCKUP
    November 1, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    ops wrong reply.

  73. VLOCKUP
    VLOCKUP
    November 1, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    Because progressive!

    Wtf that character is ugly. Like an alien failed at determine two genders.

  74. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 1, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    Has a killer sixpac and it still looks like a female waist
    Has a killer back yet she still has some firm looking boobs
    Her manly forearms cover her hips, yet i can still see their wide enough to give birth through

    Her neck looks sturdy, but still look as feminine as her face
    That tranny thet’re trying to pass off as Not Ellen Page looks like it has more testosterone than more than half the men who’ll play this shit

  75. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 1, 2017 at 2:04 pm

    m80 that dude in the trailer…
    That’s Elly…
    I thought it was a joke when i heard it
    then i saw the character design…
    ther it was, a dude drawn in all it’s dudeness… with the name “Elly” written above

  76. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 1, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    if you think that roid rage tranny looks hot you must be gay

  77. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 1, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    Elly does look like that anoying kid with the cowboy hat and the eyepatch

  78. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 1, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    The first gtame can easily be toped by any other game with similar gameplay that has come out before
    The Evil Within plays just like it and it’s much much better
    muh relatable character, muh thought provoking story and muh polishid visuals were the only things this IP ever had going for
    Honestly, you can enjoy it much more if you wach one of those youtube movies and skip the boring monotonous gameplay (wich they obviuously only put in the final product cus (((journos))) failed horribly in their attemp to shill walking simulators as vidya)

  79. Cubed Grapes
    Cubed Grapes
    November 1, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    Because in a dangerous world without order or rule, gender transitioning is a readily available option. lol I respectfully doubt it.

  80. Cubed Grapes
    Cubed Grapes
    November 1, 2017 at 2:14 pm

    Squirrel Girl, is that you?

  81. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    November 1, 2017 at 3:45 pm

    There are some women that look good muscular and some that don’t. I don’t see why a person would worry about how good or sexy they look when fighting for their life.

  82. ProxyDoug
    ProxyDoug
    November 2, 2017 at 11:31 am

    You only care when we talk about boobs, huh? No a single comment on the neck…

  83. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    November 2, 2017 at 11:40 am

    I’m don’t have a neck fetish so I’m really not worried about it. You do know when you work out your back does build muscle too, right? Maybe not as much as she has but it still happens.

    I also didn’t talk about the torso. Because her top is baggy and will hide some of the curve in her waist.

    But sure, whatever you say buddy.

  84. JohnnyCageFan2
    JohnnyCageFan2
    November 3, 2017 at 12:49 pm

    Thanks for reminding me of the episode of Nip/Tuck where that dude fucked the couch and then operating table.

    Btw, I’d like to play a Survival/Horror with a guy stuck in a mall and fighting zombies all the while being tempted by office furniture store.

  85. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    November 5, 2017 at 9:48 am

    Yes, yes they are. Have you looked through here? ‘She doesn’t look like the ideal woman! She’s ugly!’ Even though she’s like fucking 14 people! (15 in 2?) I can look at her face and neck and tell she’s female. I can look at her hands and tell too. And what does it matter if she doesn’t look good in a world full of fungal infected zombies trying to eat her? Don’t you think that’s a BIT more important then her wearing tight clothing to show off her body?

    And just because you have a hard time looking at a person to tell their sex doesn’t mean other people have that problem.

  86. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 6, 2017 at 7:03 am

    if you look at her face hands and neck and think that is the anatomy that belongs to someone born a woman then i look at your comment and say you are gay
    even taking steroids her whole life wouldn’t get her such manly body frame and facial features you saying “hurdur mussoginist don’t like her cus she’s ugly” is as retarded as when journos shat on DmC detractors by branding all their very justified criticism as “muh hair”
    that design is the design of a male, it has a male back, male ribcage a male bodyframe and a male face
    as i said, there is nothing wrong hith Elly’s anatomy, some may even say he looks like a really handsome guy, other just mistake him for a tranny, but one think everyone has in common is that we all recognize the Y chromosome in the art design
    that “Elly” is no woman and descrivng him as such outs you as gay

  87. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    November 6, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    “i look at your comment and say you are gay” Bisexual actually. I’m not sure what my sexuality has to do with this. As I have not said that I find the models in the game attractive. Or are you bringing that up as some kind of insult? Do you have something against gay people? It’s like you are writing a Kotaku/Polygon article for them at this point.

    “even taking steroids her whole life” Did you mean testosterone? If a girl took testosterone plus blockers all her life then yes, she would look more manly. You’re just showing how uneducated on the subject you are at this point.

    “hurdur mussoginist don’t like her cus she’s ugly” Please show me where I called you or anyone else here a misogynist for not liking the models. Protip: I didn’t. However if you think a girl at the age of 19 should be curvy at all times with tight fitting clothes in the middle of a fungal zombie apocalypses…you might have lost a but of your grip on reality.

    “that design is the design of a male, it has a male back, male ribcage a male bodyframe and a male face” I would say that it’s more stock then a female model. But it’s not outside of reasoning. Think about it. You run around with a pretty weighty pack on your back all the time, fighting people who are stronger and heavier then you. You’re going to be working those muscles doing that. And I’m sure they are still working them when not fighting as well. I mean clickers pretty much can’t be stopped once they grab hold of you. Even Joel can’t stop them. But I think age place a good part in that. Her clothing is also lose so you can’t really get a good hold of her body shape. Again, this is just you showing you don’t understand the subject. Someone made a model that isn’t to your liking and all hell has to break loose for you. Sounds like a group of other people who like to whine on and on about how womens body’s should be in video games.

    “as i said, there is nothing wrong hith Elly’s anatomy, some may even say he looks like a really handsome guy” And they are mistaken. It would be handsome girl ^^.

    “other just mistake him for a tranny” But where would she have gotten the hormones and blockers to be trans? Pretty sure if the government didn’t have them under lock and key then people should have dumped them because that have no real medical use in TLoU world. Hmm well Joel does shove random pills down his throat all the time. Does this mean in part 2 Joel will have a nice pair of tits?

    “but one think everyone has in common is that we all recognize the Y chromosome in the art design” Video game characters don’t have DNA. Thus they can not have XX or XY chromosomes. People that think this don’t know how biology works.

    “that “Elly” is no woman and descrivng him as such outs you as gay” You’re not outing anyone. If you want to fight over this, fine. Have at it. Don’t hide it behind a guise of reason though. That Ellie is a 19 year old girl.

  88. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 6, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    WALL OF TEXT!!!
    When i call you gay i don’t mean it as an insult, i just say it cus you are obviously confused as to what a male and female body should look like and you yourself confirmed it by admiting to be by, nothing wrong with liking sodomy, but if you can’t tell the difference between male and female don’t expect normies to be like you
    also, no matter how many hormonal treaments somene goes through their skeleton is the one thing they will never be able to change, and the shoulders, back and ribcage in elly’s body are definetly male (gentials alone are not the only difference between the sexes

    >hurdur mussoginy
    i did not intend to make it sound as if you yourself had used the M word against my side of the argument but you can bet your ass some random leftard online has done so, they are the ones i was refering to
    to close up
    women are beautiful not handsome, men are handsome, the word handsome is only used on males
    >hurdur where would someone get SRS
    who cares, i’m just telling you what “she” looks like, and “she” looks like either a “he” or something in between but definetly no a “she”
    >hurdur vidya has no DNA
    and you have no knowledge of what a metaphor is
    >That Elly is girl
    only cus the lore says so, her apearance and design are those of a male and no amount of mental gymnastics will ever make him look like a female, only a redesign will

  89. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    November 6, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    “WALL OF TEXT!!!” I’m sorry I addressed your ‘points’ consistently and concisely? Instead of just one word answers?

    ” i just say it cus you are obviously confused as to what a male and female body should look like” I’m not though. I’m not saying this is how a body SHOULD look. I’m saying, given the condition of the world and how one would have to live in it, this is how a body WOULD look.

    “and you yourself confirmed it by admiting to be by,” I’m not sure how admitting to being BI does that but okay pal.

    ” nothing wrong with liking sodomy” What does being bi have to do with liking sodomy? Oh…OH! You think I’m a guy! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    “but if you can’t tell the difference between male and female don’t expect normies to be like you” I can. Would you like me to talk about sexual dimorphism for a while?

    “also, no matter how many hormonal treaments somene goes through their
    skeleton is the one thing they will never be able to change” Agreed. And I never said that it did.

    “and the shoulders, back and ribcage in elly’s body are definetly male” Her shoulder aren’t very broad if that’s what you are getting at. It might look that with seeing as she has two pieces of clothing made for a man on. I’m not sure how you are seeing her back in that picture but okay. And you can’t really see her bare ribs seeing as the shirt is loose fitting. Unless you got a picture where you can see her body in better detail then you got nothing.

    “i did not intend to make it sound as if you yourself had used the M word
    against my side of the argument but you can bet your ass some random
    leftard online has done so, they are the ones i was refering to” You posted basically a quote for what I’d said then added “hurdur mussoginy” to it. This is implying that that is what I am saying. You were comparing what I was saying to ‘leftards’. Also, nice green texting there buddy.

    “women are beautiful not handsome, men are handsome, the word handsome is only used on males” I’ve seen many women be called handsome. And I’ve seen many men be called beautiful. Maybe it’s a cultural thing. But it does happen, sweetheart. You see that? I called you sweetheart but this is usually used for women. Funny how words work.

    “who cares” Then why bring up the tranny comments? If you know they hold no weight then why bring them up? Grabbing a straws?

    “and you have no knowledge of what a metaphor is” When you say Y you are talking about chromosomes. There is no ‘metaphor’ in that. If you want to call her a man then call her a man. It’s just that simple. And just as wrong.

    “>That Elly is girl” Love that you take the 19 year old part out of that. And are still trying to green text.

    “only cus the lore says so” Then fuck, Joel is only a man because the lore says so. Why can’t Joel be a woman now? BREAK THE LORE! SAMUS IS TRANS! LINK SHOULD BE A GIRL IN NEXT GAME!

    “her apearance and design are those of a male and no amount of mental
    gymnastics will ever make him look like a female, only a redesign will” Except for the fact that she has a bagina and is female. But other then that, she’s totally a man. What’s you need to get your rocks off to her though.

  90. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 8, 2017 at 7:05 am

    more denial and mental gymnastics
    you’r trying to swim up a waterfall baby, fact just aren’t on your side
    if it’s a drawing and it looks like a man then it’s a man, no matter if the guy who drew it says it’s a reptilian tentacle monster from outer space

    Also
    >admiting to be a halfdyke
    >defending a dykish design designed for dykes
    so, the truth reveals itselg
    still nothing good with liking scisoring, just don’t expect normies to have your standards when it comes to diferentiating males and females
    and you can keep claiming that is a body that a female may get without an industrial intake of steroids, i’ll just keep mocking your lack of knowledge on human anatomy
    Oh and since you were claiming that men don’t like Elly cus she’s ugly instead of not liking the design for not even being the design of a female to begin with. I believe that way of thinking falls within the “male gaze” shit femtards are always talking about, so i’m fairly sure i just hit the mark when i sayd “hurdur mussogyknees”
    you’re just pissed cus i called you out on your favourite word before you got a chance to throw it as an insult, ain’t ya?
    >sweetheart
    the only people who call men sweetheart are tranny bartenderds who are bouncing drunkards out of their bars cus they’ve alrready drank to much
    and on this note, how is bringing up that nu-Elly looking like a trany is grasping for straws? she does indid look like a trany, or a sligthly effeminate man
    then theres you still not realizing that i talk about the Y chromosom in the character desing to say in a nerdy way “that is the design of a male” wich says a loooooot about you IQ, as if claiming this desing is female didn’t say enough alrready
    and one last thing
    How do you know this Elly has a vagigi?
    rule 34 alrready out yet
    damn their fast!

  91. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    November 8, 2017 at 10:12 am

    Jesus christ. The sheer amount of misspells and inability to type is unfathomable. And you are still trying to green text. This isn’t a chan board my boy.

    “more denial and mental gymnastics” Zero of that from me. A lot of it from you though. Are you just responding to yourself and pretending it’s me?

    “>admiting to be a halfdyke” How cute

    “>defending a dykish design designed for dykes” Except I’m not. I don’t like the way those two models look myself. But unless SJWs I’m not going to tell a game maker to change them just because I don’t like them. I’ve also given reasons why they would be like that. If you want to stay blind to it just so you can rant, I can’t help you. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.

    “still nothing good with liking scisoring” ‘All lesbians do is scissor!’ Negro, you need to watch better porn.

    “just don’t expect normies to have your standards when it comes to diferentiating males and females” Already addressed this. You are repeating yourself.

    “you can keep claiming that is a body that a female may get without an industrial intake of steroids, i’ll just keep mocking your lack of
    knowledge on human anatomy” And I’ll mock you for your lack of understanding in how hormones work as well as biology. I’m starting to think you might not have hit puberty yet.

    “Oh and since you were claiming that men don’t like Elly cus she’s ugly” When did I do that? When did I say MEN? I said the people here in the comments. Do you believe everyone that comments here is a man? You’re still trying to paint me as a ‘leftard’. It’s not very flattering sweetie.

    “I believe that way of thinking falls within the “male gaze”” Then you are incorrect.

    ” so i’m fairly sure i just hit the mark when i sayd “hurdur mussogyknees”” If by ‘hit the mark’ you mean ‘missed it entirely’, then yeah.

    “you’re just pissed cus i called you out on your favourite word before you got a chance to throw it as an insult, ain’t ya?” Were it my favorite word then I would have used it at some point before this, wouldn’t I? And it all comes crumbling down crumbling down crumbling doooowwwwnnn~

    “the only people who call men sweetheart are tranny bartenderds who are bouncing drunkards out of their bars cus they’ve alrready drank to much” Also gay men. You seem to have a real hatred for the LGBT community. Was your heart pierced by a tranny or something? The point is, handsome and beautiful are not restricted to a gender. These are just words to describe a person.

    “and on this note, how is bringing up that nu-Elly looking like a trany is grasping for straws?” You said ‘who cares’ meaning you knew that it was nonsense and lead nowhere. I asked if you knew this then why even bring it up? And you can’t even defend yourself doing so. Which, to me, is just grabbing at straws in the hopes that something will stick.

    “then theres you still not realizing that i talk about the Y chromosom in the character desing to say in a nerdy way “that is the design of a male” wich says a loooooot about you IQ” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh man, that’s a good one.

    “How do you know this Elly has a vagigi?” Because it’s the same Ellie from the first game. Just like the Joel in part 2 is the same Joel from the first game. It’s alike watching a retard trying to pretend to be retarded without knowing that he really IS retarded.

  92. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 9, 2017 at 1:13 pm

    >muh grammar
    how abut we write in my native language that way there won’t be so many spelling errors
    >tell a game maker to change them just because I don’t like them
    nobody is doing that, not like it would work anyway, we are just laughin at his inability to draw females, as well as all the snowflakes like you who still reffer to that male design as female just cus the devs says so
    >I’ll mock you for your lack of understanding in how hormones work as well as biolog
    right back at ya, hormones cannot change a skeleton, that is fixed at birth, just like our genitals
    >hurdur i meant “people” not “men”
    “Men” is a stand in for “people” can be interchagable words based on the context of the conversation, context wich you are well aware of, so stop playing dumb to dodge the issue, the only retards that would claim Nu-elly is hated cus she’s ugly (instead of being disliked for being designed the wrong gender) are femtards who are just looking for another thing to blame on men
    >real hatred for the LGBT community
    you mean faggots and dykes? i just mock them when they are being weired in public, i don’t care about their promiscuous degeneracy so long as they keep it private, if i have a gripe with their “community” is just how hard the (((current year))) is trying to push them down my throath in all the media around me
    >muh who cares
    that was directed towards your speculations of the possibility of a post apocaliptic SRS, that i don’t care, the fact that the main character designer draws manlyer women than Migelangelo, that i care
    >grabbing at straws in the hopes that something will stick.
    that’s what you are doing by clinging to the fantasy that women can look like that, wich is as retarded as claiming water is dry and fire is cold
    >it’s the same Ellie from the first game
    Nope, a drawing is not a person, the goku from OG Dragon Ball was not the same from DBZ, hell, the goku on the first panel of his manga was not the same than the second panel
    each drawing is its own, OG elly was alrready designed as a female and used in her game, nu elly was redesign (or rebooted) as a male
    plot wise it may be the same character, but design wise it’s not, drawings do not grow
    anyway thios is getting tired, how about you search in the comments so you can cherry pick that one guy who hates the design using the word “ugly” instead of “manly” and post it here?
    you’re gonna have to search long for it though everyone else is just calling malElly how she looks like, your the onlyone i’ve seen bitching and moaning about “hurdur u hate her cus she’s ugly”

  93. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 9, 2017 at 1:14 pm

    last one
    >muh greentext
    >hurdur this isn’t 4chan
    you do know how it was that this site became famous, right?

  94. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    November 9, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    “>muh greentext >hurdur this isn’t 4chan” You do know there are other chan boards then 4chan, right? It’s not that you are doing it. It’s how much you are doing it. Like some child trying to prove he’s cool to the older kids. Do you meme in real life too? It’s pathetic. And it shows that you don’t want to debate this. You just want to close your ears and whine. You are no better then Big Red herself.

    “how abut we write in my native language” So I should give you special treatment? Isn’t that something only special snowflakes ask for? Open your browser, go to a spell checking site, use it. Was that so hard?

    “nobody is doing that” I’ll concede that. Though it really does some that why with your trying to apply your ‘logic’ to why Ellie shouldn’t look like that when you have no real control over it. Like if you could justify it enough maybe someone from the team will listen to you. But it’s more like you trying to justify it to yourself.

    “not like it would work anyway” A studio has never changed their game due to ‘fan outcry’?

    “we are just laughin at his inability to draw females, as well as all the
    snowflakes like you who still reffer to that male design as female just
    cus the devs says so” Then I guess you are both on the same playing field. As I doubt you have that ability yourself. You seem to be trying to brand me with the SJW label for some reason. As if the only way for someone to have a different opinion then you is for them to be of the opposing side. It’s very telling. You must other people to make it easier to lash out at them. As for ‘the devs saying so’ I go by what was in the first game. Or is this the whole ‘only cus the lore says so’ argument you tried to pull then quickly dropped when I showed you how stupid it was?

    “hormones cannot change a skeleton, that is fixed at birth, just like our genitals” Oh man, you do not even know what you walked into. I will again state that I never said anything about changes to a person’s skeletal structure when it comes to hormone replacement theory (HRS). Because yes, after puberty, it’s pretty much set. The most you can do is get cosmetic surgery to shave down and reshape some bones. However, hormones do control bone growth. So if a child who is male were giving blockers and estrogen before they hit puberty it can influence the skeletal structure. It’s why children who transition young pass a whole lot better then people who try after finishing puberty. You couldn’t even take the time to look up if it were possible. You see why I can tell you know nothing of biology or hormones?

    “”Men” is a stand in for “people” can be interchagable words based on the context of the conversation” Only if my man you meant manKIND. When I said people I meant any person that commented here. Including myself. That’s the context. Does it still confuse you?

    “so stop playing dumb to dodge the issue” Funny, it seems you be what you keep doing.

    “the only retards that would claim Nu-elly is hated cus she’s ugly
    (instead of being disliked for being designed the wrong gender)” When you call Ellie a man, you are saying that she is unfeminine, homely, UGLY. If you find her to be ugly then great. I don’t find her attractive either. But then again I don’t really find children attractive to begin with.

    “are
    femtards who are just looking for another thing to blame on men” Holy shit. You are either an MRA (the other side of the coin of 3rd way feminists) or a MGTOW. I didn’t think you could get more pathetic but you cease to amaze. If you think I’m trying to blame this on you or men in general….then your ideals have taken over your reasoning skills. If you had them to begin with.

    “you mean faggots and dykes? i just mock them when they are being weired
    in public, i don’t care about their promiscuous degeneracy so long as
    they keep it private, if i have a gripe with their “community” is just
    how hard the (((current year))) is trying to push them down my throath
    in all the media around me” Dude, get off /pol/

    “that was directed towards your speculations of the possibility of a post
    apocaliptic SRS, that i don’t care, the fact that the main character
    designer draws manlyer women than Migelangelo, that i care” Damn son you could even look up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to make sure you spelled that right? I mean you could make HRS and SRS possible If most medical facilities are in tact and medication would be easily available. But it really wouldn’t make sense for a species on the decline. But you felt it was a valid opinion to bring up. And only when I told you how fucking stupid it would be you tried to backpedal. If you didn’t care then why even propose it? If it wasn’t an opinion you shared then why bring it up?

    “that’s what you are doing by clinging to the fantasy that women can look
    like that, wich is as retarded as claiming water is dry and fire is
    cold” I mean I’ve seen women that look like that. We usually refer them them as tomboys. Some grow out of it and some don’t. There are people who have an imbalance of hormones in their body as well. Dry ice is dry water. Can’t really say I’ve seen cold fire but there are chemicals that give the same effect as being burned yet are cold.

    “Nope, a drawing is not a person, the goku from OG Dragon Ball was not
    the same from DBZ, hell, the goku on the first panel of his manga was
    not the same than the second panel
    each drawing is its own, OG elly
    was alrready designed as a female and used in her game, nu elly was
    redesign (or rebooted) as a male
    plot wise it may be the same character, but design wise it’s not, drawings do not grow” You’ve fucking lost it dude. Do you have a manifesto somewhere online?

    “anyway thios is getting tired, how about you search in the comments so
    you can cherry pick that one guy who hates the design using the word
    “ugly” instead of “manly” and post it here?” I mean I really don’t have to. I’ve already explained what you mean when you say manly. But you have yet to posted evidence where I said any of what you’ve claimed I’ve said.

    “hurrdurr hurrdurr hurrdurr hurrdurr” Do you have friends? Do you do this in front of them? Do they look at you funny when you do? Is the internet the only place you can let out these ’tism fits?

  95. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 9, 2017 at 9:54 pm

    >other chan boards then 4chan
    i know them i come from 8chan, but 4chan is the one all the normies know
    >muh greentext
    greentesxt arrows are way better than “” and () to reply to other people’s comments, i got used to them, never stoped using them since
    >muh debate
    there is nothing to debate, i just reply to you cus i got nothing better to do
    at the end of the day
    Elli still looks like a man
    >So I should give you special treatment?
    I’m just saying if the grammar of my second language hurts you then talk to me in my first language, that is if you can speak more than one, of course
    >A studio has never changed their game due to ‘fan outcry’?
    AAA studio with $ony shekkels behind it? i don’t see them giving a shit about fan outcry any time soon

    >only cus the lore says so’ argument you tried to pull then quickly dropped when I showed you how stupid it was?
    <be a dev
    <design a male character
    SRS nonesence
    i don’t give a fuck about trannys or the mutilations they go through all i did was point out that a tranny is the closest thing to a female that nu elly design looks like
    >When you call Ellie a man, you are saying that she is unfeminine, homely, UGLY
    translation: it doesn’t matter what people write, i’m just gonna read what i want to read
    >muh MRA/MGTOW
    the translation of the item above identifyes you as a femtard or at least someone with the brain of one, but don’t let facts get between you and denial, i’m having fun here
    >Funny, it seems to be what you keep doing.
    nice projection
    >I’ve seen women that look like that
    either you are mistaking males and females again or you just stabbed your monitor with your pinocho nose cus no woman looks that manly
    >Dude, get off /pol/
    c’mon you got to at least understand where i’m comming from with this item in the list, faggotry has been pushed soe far and so deep by all media latelly that even faggots are having enough of this shit
    >hurdur drawing are persons who can gorw wich is why i can claim that a character in the sequel of a game is the exact same person as in the first one, only older
    i don’t have a reply smug enough to BTFO this level of retardation
    >I really don’t have to (post evidence of my claims)
    if you expected me to listen and believe then you came to the wrong website
    >hurdur you must be a lonelly autistic sperg
    Dr Jekkyl has firend IRL but you’re dealing with Mr Hide now biatch
    Oh! one last thing, if your were wondering why i asume there are no girls on the internet, it’s because i know the internet laws
    in other words
    TITS OR GTFO
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fbef61e3dc6fda5706fb23cfbc6c4af233e7dac1ad62af4f79bbea8812ffb57a.jpg

  96. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    November 10, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    Your autism is the gift that keeps on giving

    “i know them i come from 8chan, but 4chan is the one all the normies know” Even if I had only heard of 4chan, if you’d said 8chan I could have looked it up. Even if I didn’t, I would know how a chan board works based on being on one. You answer is redundant.

    “greentesxt arrows are way better than “” and () to reply to other people’s comments” Do you know why I’m quoting you? It’s to show what I am replying to. It’s to provide context to what I say. It’s so what you said isn’t misrepresented like you have been doing to me. And it’s so you can’t go back and edit your posts to hide it. Admittedly I have green texted outside a chan before. I still do it sometimes. But I’ve made sure to think before doing it. Because it’s fucking stupid and shows your hand. Pokerface my dude!

    “there is nothing to debate, i just reply to you cus i got nothing better to do” Of course it isn’t. You can’t back up anything you’ve said. And because of that you have had to drop every ‘point’ you’ve made here. All you have to fall back on is calling Ellie a man. Such is literally your FEELING on the matter (also you thinking it make me upset which only makes me laugh). You are using your FEELINGS as an argument. Tell me, who else does that?

    “I’m just saying if the grammar of my second language hurts you then talk to me in my first language, that is if you can speak more than one, of course” It wasn’t just grammar (grammar does not count spelling and I have no idea why people think this). You can’t spell for shit. Whether it’s your idiocy causing it or english not being your first language; you could still use a spell checking site. English is the only thing I am fluent in. I know a relative amount of french, spanish and Italian. Unless it’s one of those I guess we are sticking with english. But if you are upset I made fun of you (which you aren’t THAT bad btw) then I can always find a safe space for you.

    “AAA studio with $ony shekkels behind it? i don’t see them giving a shit about fan outcry any time soon” Why focus just on Sony? Bethesda didn’t change the ending of Fallout 3 with the first DLC due to fans not happy with not being able to continue? And keep it in for Fallout 4? Mass Effect didn’t ‘try’ to fix the ending of 3 due to outcry? Studios have not removed features due to outcries? And some put them back in due to them? Silent Hill HD didn’t succumb to outcry to put it on the Xbox 360 when that hadn’t planned to before? Those are just same from off the top of my head.

    “be a dev, design a male character, claim it’s a female, yup, only cus the lore says so” Then Joel isn’t a man to you then. Lore says he’s a man and a father. But lore means nothing to you. I bet you edit wikis a lot. But lets really get into your ‘a drawing is a different person each time’ theory. And lets keep it with your Goku example. If that is so, then every cell in the animation is a different Goku. Each and every blink of an eye means a different Goku. Every hair flick, every twitch, every overly like screaming screen. Each manga panel would be a different Goku. Forget all the SSJ forms we have now; we got fuck ton of Gokus running around! Do you not see how flawed that logic is? Or are you just gonna fall back on ‘it’s just trollin’ bro!’ as to make yourself seem like less of an imbecile somehow?

    “i don’t give a fuck about trannys or the mutilations they go through all i did was point out that a tranny is the closest thing to a female that nu elly design looks like” Except by admitting that you are saying that a tranny is nothing close to what they are trying to show. As you don’t see a trans person as the gender they try to represent. It’s like watching Ouroboros chew on it’s own tail.

    “translation: it doesn’t matter what people write, i’m just gonna read what i want to read” Right back a’cha. Because you have been doing that the whole time. In fact you are about to do that in your next sentence.

    “the translation of the item above identifyes you as a femtard or at least someone with the brain of one, but don’t let facts get between you and denial, i’m having fun here” Really? I think it identifies me as a person who can use critical thinking. But all you can do is try to other people. To stagnate. And what could be more fun then that?

    “nice projection” Pot calling the kettle black

    “either you are mistaking males and females again or you just stabbed your monitor with your pinocho nose cus no woman looks that manly” Pinocchio. And before you go on and on about it; that is the only time I’ve corrected you. There are women that look like that. There are unattractive people. It happens. There are women with manly features and men with womanly features. Not everyone is the ‘ideal form’ you see in games. Because an ideal form really relies on what you believe to be ideal. And although games are made to be fantasies, a dev can make something close to reality. As long as it fits within the game and makes sense.

    “c’mon you got to at least understand where i’m comming from with this item in the list, faggotry has been pushed soe far and so deep by all media latelly that even faggots are having enough of this shit” With how ‘deep’ and ‘far’ it’s been going down your throat I’m sure you’ve come to enjoy it. Like a male feminist who turns out to be a sex offender; I’m seeing some patterns.

    “i don’t have a reply smug enough to BTFO this level of retardation” Because you know you line of thinking is absurd.

    “if you expected me to listen and believe then you came to the wrong website” Still have yet to post your evidence of your claims. Oh, and I did a word fine on the comments. There are 3 people who called her ugly. And I’ve already explained the manly thing. How’s that crow taste?

    “Dr Jekkyl has firend IRL but you’re dealing with Mr Hide now biatch” I never called you that. Mmm well I never called you lonely. I gave you reasonable doubt that you MIGHT have friends. Son, you are FAR from what Hyde represents as the base nature of man. You’re nothing but a LARPing edgelord.

    “Oh! one last thing, if your were wondering why i asume there are no girls on the internet, it’s because i know the internet laws” Oh no, I know about the rule and what it’s meant to prevent. Too bad I never brought up my gender for special treatment.

    “TITS OR GTFO” And give you something tug your little winky to? Not a chance. I’ve got more dignity then that. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c46a3c2a7b24e22adf40cd102e1f879d76142a64f1aa5c55896fcecc63f00a2e.gif

  97. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 18, 2017 at 6:55 am

    >i’m here again sorry it took so long to reply to this bait piong ´pong, i was bussy, lets get to it:
    >You can’t back up anything you’ve said
    and i don’t need to, elly having a male design is a fact that will always stand on it’s own regardles of your mental gymnastics
    >muh spelling
    are you really expecting me to care about spelling when talking about vidya with other autists? especially shitty videa like TLOU?
    >Then Joel isn’t a man to you then
    joel was designed as a man, just like nu elly

    >you don’t see a trans person as the gender they try to represent
    as far as i’m concerned, trannys are mentally ill, nobody who can willingly go through that mutilation is a sane person, but, yeah, a castrated male with estrogen injections is the most feminine nu-elly looks like
    >I think it identifies me as a person who can use critical thinking
    i think you mean (((critical theory)))
    >With how ‘deep’ and ‘far’ it’s been going down your throat I’m sure you’ve come to enjoy it
    HAHAHA good reply, i would have been dissapointed if you didn’t take that bait
    >I did a word fine on the comments. There are 3 people who called her ugly
    >There are 3 people who called her ugly
    >There are 3 people
    >3 people
    >3
    cherry picking at it’s finest, and given that yopu still kkeping up with your denial i asume you are just using those 3 to broad brush the entire comment section descriveing nu elli as male, right?
    >I never called you lonely. I gave you reasonable doubt that you MIGHT have friends
    asking me if i have any friends irl is not implying that i’m lonely? having are you having doubts or my ability to socialice just because i do not share the brainwashing you recived in gender and comunication studies?
    >And give you something tug your little winky to?
    with the way femtards usually look the last thing i may want to do after seing the tits of one is to tuf my little winky
    I just requested them for my goreposting folder

  98. Maria Maasaa
    Maria Maasaa
    November 19, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    And here I thought the headaches I was getting from trying to work out your ‘trolling logic’ were over.

    “>i’m here again sorry it took so long to reply to this bait piong ´pong, i was bussy, lets get to it:” Why are you green texting for yourself? For someone who claims to come from a chan you should don’t know how anything works.

    “and i don’t need to” Because you CAN’T.

    ” elly having a male design is a fact that will always stand on it’s own regardles of your mental gymnastics” Except that’s not the argument you’ve tried to make. And because you’ve failed at trying to make it, this is all you can fall back on. Weak trolling.

    “are you really expecting me to care about spelling when talking about
    vidya with other autists? especially shitty videa like TLOU?” Because when you are trying to make a point, you should be consistent. People should be able to understand what you say. It’s like watching a full on aspie trying to explain why Sonic is the best video game ever. And if you don’t care about TLoU then why do you care what happens with Ellie? ‘It’s just to make people like YOU mad’ isn’t gonna cut it.

    “joel was designed as a man, just like nu elly” Did you not say the lore doesn’t matter? Do I need to quote you on that? If you believe the lore doesn’t matter then Joel can be ANYTHING. The lore is out the window with you. Is this a ‘I was only pretending to be retard’ thing? Because this seems like more then just pretending.

    “as far as i’m concerned, trannys are mentally ill,” Agreed. Transgenderism does stem from a mental illness/defect.

    “nobody who can willingly go through that mutilation is a sane person” There are some that unwilling go through it. And some that realize what they are doing and try to detransition.

    ” a castrated male with estrogen injections is the most feminine nu-elly looks like” Except you don’t really believe that. You don’t recognize transpeople. So you don’t equate them to someone like yourself.

    “i think you mean (((critical theory)))” Nice job making shit up. Specially an oxymoron like that.

    “i would have been dissapointed if you didn’t take that bait” That you are a raging faggot trying to hide it behind trolling? Yeah god forbid I didn’t catch on to that.

    “cherry picking at it’s finest” How is it cherry picking if that the exact number of people that did it? You said I’d pick one person, I found 3 that did it. Do you just have a problem with admitting you’re wrong about something?

    “i asume you are just using those 3 to broad brush the entire comment section descriveing nu elli as male, right?” Uh no, I pointed out that is was 3 people and not just 1. Do you need a lesson in math as well?

    “asking me if i have any friends irl is not implying that i’m lonely?” No, it’s asking if you have friends. Because I find it hard to believe many people can put up with you. But that’s just me. I’m sure you have a few friends out there that hang out with you….maybe once a week? Month?

    “having are you having doubts or my ability to socialice just because i
    do not share the brainwashing you recived in gender and comunication
    studies?” I had to read this…THREE TIMES to figure out what you are saying. If you claim to come from a chan and this is how you act ; yes. I have my doubts about your ability to socialize. The internet is a den of autism. Yourself include. Myself as well.

    “with the way femtards usually look the last thing i may want to do after seing the tits of one is to tuf my little winky” Yeah cause you trying to insult me is REALLY gonna make me drop nudes. I’ll drop nudes when your balls drop, kid. But nice try ^~.

    “I just requested them for my goreposting folder” Oooo edge lord it up, bruh.

    So this is it. At least an end for my part. You can keep talking yourself in circles. I’ve taken out each ‘point’ you’ve tried to bring up. So this is just an empty conversation now.

  99. Lea Pastillaroja
    Lea Pastillaroja
    November 25, 2017 at 6:52 am

    >Except that’s not the argument you’ve tried to make
    Elly being a man, looking like a man, acting like a man, and basically beiung a man in anything but name is the very argument you have beet trying to get an olympic gold medal in mental gymnastic to try and debunk… (only to fail miserably)
    >People should be able to understand what you say
    and you do, but you latch on to writing mistakes cus you got nothing better to argue, leftist often do that
    >Did you not say the lore doesn’t matter?
    when talking about design, the lore matter’s not, and as far as design goes, Joel is a male… just like Elly
    >You don’t recognize transpeople. So you don’t equate them to someone like yourself
    i don’t need to recognize trannys to realise that a male with estrogen injections will look more feminine than a male without
    >That you are a raging faggot trying to hide it behind trolling?
    nah, i’m a vampire who feeds on butthur and you’re giving me a feast
    >I find it hard to believe many people can put up with you
    only people who adamntly refuse to believe when they are prooven wrong beyond all reasonable doubt, and i don’t really hang out with those types
    >I had to read this…THREE TIMES to figure out what you are saying
    don’t worry kiddo, i’m sure you will one day manage to graduate from elementary school and be able to properly read
    >cause you trying to insult me is REALLY gonna make me drop nudes
    Isn’t the act of asking for nudes an insult in itself?
    bitch i’m so edgy i can divide atoms with karate chops
    Sonic team has been looking to hire me as the villain for their next game
    >So this is it. At least an end for my part. You can keep talking yourself in circles.
    don’t lie to yourself, you had fun here
    >I’ve taken out each ‘point’ you’ve tried to bring up
    nope, Elly still looks like a man
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/90c16add57e15a73d813e0cae13ea8bc215f83b6ae9c788d170346928a8a60b5.jpg