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Fire Emblem Fates to Only Have English Audio in the West

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Nintendo’s Treehouse division seems keen on removing things in Fire Emblem Fates. Now, we’ve confirmed that Fire Emblem Fates will only have English audio in its western release.

All three versions of the game will only have English audio. It’s worth mentioning that Fire Emblem: Awakening did have the option for Japanese audio, leaving us scratching our heads as to why it was omitted in this sequel.

If you want an example of how the English dub for the game turned out, look no further than a bit of gameplay from GameXplain:

They’ve even dubbed over sections that only had singing, adding in some awkward sounding grunting noises.

How do you guys feel about the news of the game lacking Japanese audio? Sound off in the comments below!

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344 comments
  1. Cy
    Cy
    February 6, 2016 at 11:43 am

    I couldn’t care less because I never use foreign language options but I’m pretty sure the levels of butthurt in the comments is gonna start rising exponentially in a few minutes.

  2. PintSizedPurple
    PintSizedPurple
    February 6, 2016 at 11:46 am

    Dubs are so shit 99% of the time. They just keep making this worse and worse and worse.

  3. TsukuyomiMagi99
    TsukuyomiMagi99
    February 6, 2016 at 11:47 am

    I would’ve tolerated English audio if it wasn’t for the censorship. I am fucking done with this till the PC community gets their hands out.

  4. Crayll
    Crayll
    February 6, 2016 at 11:47 am

    Yet another reason to not buy Fates. And while nearly all dubs are bad, this one seems to be especially awful. I’m pretty sure you could grab some random people off the street and they’d do better than most of the ‘actors’ in that video – nepotism at work?

    I really don’t know what Treehouse is thinking.

  5. Nagato
    Nagato
    February 6, 2016 at 11:47 am

    Would prefer to play in English unless a dub is Eternal Sonata levels of bad, but this omission is a truly unnecessary one; even if they wanted to cheap out on cartridge size, they could’ve just offered the Jap voices as a free downloadable instead…

  6. dogmentation
    dogmentation
    February 6, 2016 at 11:50 am

    Won’t buy it, won’t miss it.

  7. Talpss177
    Talpss177
    February 6, 2016 at 11:54 am

    Have you heard Felicia’s voice? It does not match her character at all. She sounds 10 years older than she looks.

  8. djluke_1993
    djluke_1993
    February 6, 2016 at 11:55 am

    Thanks Nintnedo this’ll be my first bough pre-owned game bought that wasn’t a gift.

  9. JCTXS
    JCTXS
    February 6, 2016 at 11:56 am

    I thought it was a dying animal.

  10. djluke_1993
    djluke_1993
    February 6, 2016 at 11:57 am

    So people are “butthurt” because they took out a feature that was in Awakening and also haven’t given a reason as to why at all Nintendo didn’t give a reason as to why to.

  11. Taedirk
    Taedirk
    February 6, 2016 at 11:58 am

    I still like how they managed to put out months of DLC for FE:Awakening but couldn’t be assed to fix the bug with voice options resetting every time you load the game.

  12. Taedirk
    Taedirk
    February 6, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    Shhh, no logic here. “If it doesn’t matter to me, it must be an over-reaction.”

  13. Leandro Teixeira
    Leandro Teixeira
    February 6, 2016 at 12:03 pm

    Wow… it just keeps getting shittier and shittier

  14. Wonderkarp
    Wonderkarp
    February 6, 2016 at 12:04 pm

    I cancelled my preorder. Informing Nintendo I will not pay full price for a neutered game.

  15. Sparrow
    Sparrow
    February 6, 2016 at 12:05 pm

    Sigh… There has been a bit of speculation that it was a licensing issue because Azura and Hayato’s Japanese VA’s (Renka and VALSHE respectively) are famous singers. But if people want to think that Treehouse did it out of spite, then be my guest. Frankly I wish there was a bit more transparency and that they actually spoke. NoA didn’t even mention about the petting game or it being dub only. We had to learn it through IGN and Kotaku. Honestly, there’s a myriad of things that could have happened with the dual audio thing, but we’ll probably never know because NoA seems keen on burying their head in the sand.

  16. Eleven Fold
    Eleven Fold
    February 6, 2016 at 12:06 pm

    Well Goddamn, Its like they don’t want me to buy this.

  17. Ryuzaki57
    Ryuzaki57
    February 6, 2016 at 12:07 pm

    That’s the richest game company on Earth and they won’t even pay for a few lines. Truly pathetic…

  18. Jack
    Jack
    February 6, 2016 at 12:08 pm

    honestly, i think Nintendo is TRYING to get me to not buy this fucking game
    i already have the japanese version, so wowie, i can just look at a guide on how to play it, or just get the pirate version, yar har, this is going to deter even more people from buying this, and when the numbers come in it’ll probably sell pretty shit due to all the horrible choices they made

  19. Takane Shijou
    Takane Shijou
    February 6, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    Honestly with all the business with changing the original experience, oh I’m sorry “localization”, I just don’t have any faith in the future for Nintendo. It’s already bad enough that region locking is still a thing to them, but we can’t even get these games intact from Japan, I just don’t see a point in continuing to own the systems.

    I made my decision just to move on from Nintendo in general, because it’s only going to keep snowballing as time goes on.

  20. Steven T.
    Steven T.
    February 6, 2016 at 12:15 pm

    Yes Happy Mask Salesman. This is a terrible Fate.

  21. Chase Moran
    Chase Moran
    February 6, 2016 at 12:16 pm

    It’s like they want to make the localized version as bad as possible.

  22. InzMovi
    InzMovi
    February 6, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    They *REALLY* want this game to fail in the west. Good going NOA

  23. Fear Me I Am Free
    Fear Me I Am Free
    February 6, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    More reason to play the fan translation.

  24. Fear Me I Am Free
    Fear Me I Am Free
    February 6, 2016 at 12:22 pm

    TIL people can’t be mad that they are only being offered a game that’s been butchered to hell instead of a complete game.

  25. landlock
    landlock
    February 6, 2016 at 12:22 pm

    Usually when Japanese audio isn’t included nowadays the problem is either license fees, voice actors not wanting there work in the west, certain Japanese studios not wanting it released outside of Japan. Most likely a mixture of the three.

  26. landlock
    landlock
    February 6, 2016 at 12:23 pm

    Everything on this site seems to be an overreaction at the moment to be fair.

  27. Neojames82
    Neojames82
    February 6, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    Ech….that’s pretty fucking terrible…

  28. orbo
    orbo
    February 6, 2016 at 12:28 pm

    Just how many feet do they have?
    Because I didn’t know it was possible to shoot themselves in them this many times.

  29. Neojames82
    Neojames82
    February 6, 2016 at 12:28 pm

    Granted, I don’t think this would have swayed or dis-swayed me from buying this, but after all the crap NoA has already done to this game this is like Treehouse is pouring more salt on the wounds.

  30. Dewey Defeats Truman
    Dewey Defeats Truman
    February 6, 2016 at 12:28 pm

    I think removing japanese audio is one of the very, very few things I can understand and be okay with when it comes to cutting content for a localized release. It’s entirely possible that it’s not just out of some dumb sense of moral righteousness but merely licensing issues. If it’s not that (or cartridge space, though if I recall 3DS carts aren’t exactly so small that would be a legitimate issue for most games) then it’s BS though.

    That said, I’m still not buying this for a bevy of other reasons.

  31. Dewey Defeats Truman
    Dewey Defeats Truman
    February 6, 2016 at 12:29 pm

    Well they did go through the trouble to add feet to Fates after Awakening didn’t have any.

  32. landlock
    landlock
    February 6, 2016 at 12:29 pm

    As Xseed have said dubbed only games, sell better then sub only games. More people care about playing the game in English with english audio. The game is going to sell just fine.

  33. NuclearCherries
    NuclearCherries
    February 6, 2016 at 12:32 pm

    Games have lacked a japanese voice option due to restrictive space on the card in recent years. A simple solution to this is to offer the Japanese voice acting as a free download, like what happened with Danganronpa: Another Episode.
    This is just bullshit. More features getting stripped out.

  34. NuclearCherries
    NuclearCherries
    February 6, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    This deal just keeps getting worse!

    This shit is unacceptable in current year. And I bet even more features will be stripped out. Just you wait until release. And then the DLC. Not to mention the translation quality will be ass, thanks to 8-4.

  35. Petr Kubát
    Petr Kubát
    February 6, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    Haha, fuck you too.

  36. NuclearCherries
    NuclearCherries
    February 6, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    Well, there IS that conspiracy going around that NoA are doing a shoddy job on purpose so they can only release Mario and Zelda games that turn a lot of profit, as opposed to long RPGs that only attract a niche audience.

    Not to mention they get more money the more things they change…

  37. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 6, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    At this point, this is like watching a car wreck

  38. Neojames82
    Neojames82
    February 6, 2016 at 12:40 pm

    Yeah tell me, why does this shitty company 8-4 keeps getting all of these horrible localization jobs? Didn’t companies use to do it in house themselves at least?

  39. djluke_1993
    djluke_1993
    February 6, 2016 at 12:51 pm

    It says right there in my comment about Nintendo not giving us any reason at all.

  40. Mea K
    Mea K
    February 6, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    Whee! Maybe they changed the script so much it was impossible to line up the original audio with the new lines.

    And people will defend this by calling anyone that complains about it a weeb. And this will somehow be effective, too.

  41. Sentsuizan_93
    Sentsuizan_93
    February 6, 2016 at 12:54 pm

    So:
    -Pointless removal of stylus part of Skinship
    -A lot of drama over Soleli + messing up the dialogue because of a terrible mistranslation from some nobody
    -Allegedly changing Elise’s age
    -And now no dual audio cuz either too lazy to get licences or “no room”, despite Awakening having dual audio
    -Plus Felicia’s “WE’VE GOT TROUBLE” voice clip
    Yeah, pre-owned purchase it is. I’m done.

  42. Minohoro
    Minohoro
    February 6, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    Jesus, NOA just does NOT want to money, do they?

    I mean, dual audio doesn’t bug me as much as other people (even with this the poor quality we’ve heard so far) but it’s like they’re going out of our way to make us annoyed, removing all these features and not even trying to compensate for them.

    All I can say is, you ain’t getting my money now NOA. You ain’t getting it for a long time now.

  43. MusouTensei
    MusouTensei
    February 6, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    I’m not even surprised, NoA is such a shit show, it needs to be disbanded and replaced.

  44. Pico
    Pico
    February 6, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    That robot voice, even hatsune miku could do a better job

  45. King of Zeroes
    King of Zeroes
    February 6, 2016 at 1:01 pm

    Keep digging, Nintendo. Keep digging.

  46. Offendatron_5000
    Offendatron_5000
    February 6, 2016 at 1:01 pm

    Good. Let it all burn.

    Not trying to be emo or shit about this, but seriously, this company is so willing to let its own art be butchered for no purpose other than to satiate the egos of busybodies… Then I hope they fail miserably.

  47. セバスティアーン
    セバスティアーン
    February 6, 2016 at 1:06 pm

    Makes me second guess whether or not I should get the game. I’m glad I can finally marry a guy,.like in real life, but if I have to hear Troy Baker one more time I’m afraid I’ll go on a killing spree.

  48. bdp
    bdp
    February 6, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    Well i’m sure someone will make an undub eventually.

  49. bdp
    bdp
    February 6, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    I don’t like her japanese voice either but at least it was tolerable.

  50. DanijoEX ♬ the Cosmic Owlzilla
    DanijoEX ♬ the Cosmic Owlzilla
    February 6, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    One thing I will say is that Nintendo…has been doing funny stuff lately. Why? I wouldn’t come up with an answer to that, to be honest. Who knows what Nintendo is even doing nowadays.

  51. 萌ゲー
    萌ゲー
    February 6, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    Sam and Syri have more range than all these actors combined.

  52. Guin
    Guin
    February 6, 2016 at 1:43 pm

    It’s like they actually want to piss off their fans.

  53. OlimacFTW
    OlimacFTW
    February 6, 2016 at 1:44 pm

    Atlus does it almost all the time and I don´t see people complaining.

  54. SuuLoliBoob
    SuuLoliBoob
    February 6, 2016 at 1:48 pm

    Marketing: “Hey, everyone! People think that the Japanese voices are creepy, because the female voice actresses actually sound good, and can actually sound really cute, people might get offended at those voices. What should we do?”

    TreeHouse: “Fucking get rid of it! We all know people who speak Japanese never actually fought in any kind of war back in those times anyways!”

  55. Guin
    Guin
    February 6, 2016 at 1:49 pm

    Or better yet. The ones who like JP voices are a bunch of dumb weebs anyways. Nothing bad will happen when we keep messing with them.XD

  56. Chocolate ISISCream
    Chocolate ISISCream
    February 6, 2016 at 1:52 pm

    Don’t really care about dual audio, but it sucks for everyone else. This just adds to the neutering of an already neutered game. Fuck off Nintendo.

  57. Unmotivated
    Unmotivated
    February 6, 2016 at 1:56 pm

    Uh, Nintendo IS doing Fates in-house. 8-4 did Awakening, which had dual audio, no cut features, decent English voice acting, and whose only acts of censorship were forced on them by Nintendo of America itself, at the cost of some hit-or-miss character changes.

    After Awakening sold well Nintendo decided they wanted complete control of the next one so they gave Fates to Treehouse, and look what happened. 8-4 has nothing to do with this mess.

  58. Guin
    Guin
    February 6, 2016 at 1:57 pm

    Any less and we’d be swept under the rug. Sorry if it personally bugs you, but game companies are so thick headed that we have to resort to this.

  59. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    Day by day, more and more, i ‘m really starting to believe that 8chan’s “nintendo of america is intentionally sabotaging niche games” conspiracy theory is true.

  60. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    i agree

    and it makes me sad because i really stuck by nintendo. (blah blah fanboy blah company dogma blah y loyal 2 company, there, i saved some people some time.) I wanted… want? them to succeed. i want them to be okay, y’know?

    but they just keep sliding further and further. it’s a really fucking sad thing for me. my childhood was basically nintendo up until i was 14, so seeing how far this shit has gone…

    and i’m well aware that games used to be censored and that’s not okay, but i think the times were different in the 90s. there was so much having to cram tiny dialogue into tiny spaces and changes had to be made but things still had the same impact in the english versions as the japanese. or that was the INTENT. you can see it in the good woolseyisms, or in earthbound, or other games like that. limited space made for creative (sometimes wrong) translation, but the impact was there and so was the intent.

    now, if you look at translations, it’s so horribly… WRONG. it doesn’t have the impact and it doesn’t even read the same. it’s not creative little changes to fit into text boxes, it’s sweeping changes that make characters completely different than how they’re meant to be.

    i guess this is way off from where your comment was going but…

    i mean i agree and i guess i’m explaining why i won’t get NX. unless Animal Crossing is a day-one title, then i might break down and get one. i’ll keep on getting their handhelds, but that’s for the 3rd party support, as it has almost always been, and pokemon, which isn’t really able to be butchered cause it’s so kid-friendly from the get-go. i’m just doing my damnedest to ignore their first party news. there is no reason to get excited anymore. “another nintendo game announcement, how will they butcher it for the west this time?”

  61. landlock
    landlock
    February 6, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    yeah shame they don’t care about a few angry gamers. NISA and Nintendo have already shown that.

  62. Kraken
    Kraken
    February 6, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    ha not that i needed another reason not to pay for this. subs > dubs yo

  63. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    idea factory has also done this
    and so has the atelier titles on vita (which is an exact result of space!)

    free download of jpn voices is fine by me. some people bitch, but even if it was due to licensing I WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY… only if a company was a VERY transparent one, like xseed or iffy or gust, tho… so not nintendo… who has the money to take the cut, honestly. basically, small, transparent companies who openly say there are licensing issues.

  64. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    really? i didn’t know this because i binged the game over three days and never turned it off…

  65. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    weebs unite
    our weeb power will rule all one day

  66. ThatOneGuy
    ThatOneGuy
    February 6, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    I know Nintendo will always be family friendly, but come on. I wish they would lighten up a little bit and realize they still have an older audience too.
    Only in my dreams, I guess.

  67. Miragos
    Miragos
    February 6, 2016 at 2:28 pm

    I’ve seen this argument made a lot, even by localizers themselves, but how come services like Crunchyroll don’t seem to have any licensing issues in the US, not even with OPs and EDs?

  68. Guin
    Guin
    February 6, 2016 at 2:29 pm

    Yeah, shame they only care about profits from the “majority” yet are willing to throw the hardcore f- oh sorry “angry gamers” under the bus when they are capable of catering to both.

  69. JoeSislack
    JoeSislack
    February 6, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    Haha Neogaf.

    No.

  70. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    February 6, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    It’s a direct quote from an XSEED staff member. If you’re going to discredit it simply because of where it’s posted then you’re frankly a moron. It was the first Google result that had what I was looking for. Read it with Adblock on

  71. JoeSislack
    JoeSislack
    February 6, 2016 at 2:33 pm

    I don’t even want to bother with a preowned version.

    Why the hell would I want to waste time and money on a hack job localization like this?

  72. Urobolus
    Urobolus
    February 6, 2016 at 2:40 pm

    The last Fire Emblem game had dual audio. That’s not really the case with Atlus games. It also helps that they don’t piss off their fans with censorship.

  73. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 6, 2016 at 2:40 pm

    Still getting your baby feelings hurt?
    Also people know about this. Main reason I still import the Falcom games, even if the localizations themselves seem alright besides the lack of jap audio.

  74. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    February 6, 2016 at 2:43 pm

    >Implying that trying to disseminate facts over people’s salty overreactions is a product of hurt feelings and not wanting people to actually know what they’re talking about

    If people know why things happen they can have a productive discussion instead of crying about how it’s an SJW conspiracy or the company is just cheaping out

    One can’t begin to fix a problem when they don’t even know what’s causing it, that much should be obvious even to you

  75. OlimacFTW
    OlimacFTW
    February 6, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    You didn’t play Dungeon Travelers, did you?

  76. JoeSislack
    JoeSislack
    February 6, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    I just find it hilarious about using that when Neogaf banned an Xseed staff member for trying to defend the games his company was localizing.

    These are the dunceheads that ‘buy’ dub only games. And quite frankly they and you need to grow a few more braincells.

  77. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    February 6, 2016 at 2:46 pm

    Neogaf is shit I agree but I didn’t feel like going around looking for a better source when the content is the exact same and pretty much everyone here has adblock anyway. It would have been a waste of time

  78. Uncle Heffy
    Uncle Heffy
    February 6, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    I just love how the reasons to not buy the western release piling up.

  79. scemar
    scemar
    February 6, 2016 at 2:49 pm

    I don’t even care about the censorship and the sloppy translation.
    A FE game stuck only with dub? That’s the tipping point, and I’m not talking about Marth.
    I mean I just don’t care about their localization anymore.
    With the 3DS at the state it’s at if I want to play FE:IF I’ll just play the much superior in every way fan translation.

  80. Uncle Heffy
    Uncle Heffy
    February 6, 2016 at 2:49 pm

    Never understood that stupid glitch.

  81. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 6, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    As far as I know, XSeed isn’t better than the rest, but I give at least credit to Tom to do his best in making sure nobody in the team alter/censor anything (he almost quitted after the altered SK characters ages which is the sole altered thing known). The guy seems legit enough to explain the issues, and the lack of jap audio only happens with Falcom games so far.

    NoA on the other hand is having a bad track record for a while, and this isnt news.

    I dunno what was the point you were trying to covince here.

  82. scemar
    scemar
    February 6, 2016 at 2:51 pm

    At least we got the news in time for everyone to cancel pre orders.

    They should really start letting people know about these things before though.

    People want to pre order and buy fe fates, not fe fates: treehouse edition.

  83. Sparrow
    Sparrow
    February 6, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    Believe it or not, but even FUNimation isn’t immune to licensing issues. The best example I can think of is One Pieces’s 16th Opening called “Hands Up!” I’m not sure if Crunchyroll was able to use it, but for a while there, the simulcast didn’t have a new opening to go along with the Punk Hazard arc. Also, I believe Eden of the East could only use the original opening song “Falling Down” for the 1st episode for the international release. And that was sung by Oasis, an English (an in UK) rock band. So licensing issues with anime music CAN happen, I think it’s just rarer for some reason. And considering that there are 2 famous singers in the cast of Fates, I really would be willing to bet that their contracts have weird things in them that prevented the dual audio from happening. Actually, Azura’s JP singing voice, Renka, used this game as her debut for her music career, so there might be something weird with that. Although I wouldn’t doubt that VALSHE’s contract prevented it either. I just wish Nintendo of America would flat-out say if it was a licensing issue or not.

  84. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    that’s fine and all but doesn’t explain why conquest and, what, birthright? are on the same cartridge in the special edition

  85. scemar
    scemar
    February 6, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    NOA is just being extremely retarded at dealing with anything that’s not mario, mario party, mario tennis or mario kart.

    If it has dialogue or female avatars they seem always too eager to butcher the games.
    See xenoblade, fe, fatal frame, etc.

    At least 3DS games are in open season for fan translation, and fan patches tho.

    Hopefully the WiiU will follow suit soon.
    WiiU emulation is already doing well so that’s step 1.

  86. scemar
    scemar
    February 6, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    This is Nintendo we’re talking about, not some small niche company.
    They’ve gone to great lengths to promote their games, they got the pockets and the size to get it done.
    They can get pokken at evo but they can’t get a singer’s right for their own game?

  87. scemar
    scemar
    February 6, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    It wasn’t a glitch it was a feature.
    They wanted you to try their dub..every..single..time.

  88. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    February 6, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    WiiU has already been hacked and there is an fan de-censored XBX floating around on your favourite anime themed torrent site.

  89. Sparrow
    Sparrow
    February 6, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    Even anime companies can’t fight the power of the record labels at times. Sometimes money can’t change the terms of a contract, sadly. Hell, when FUNimation can only get the rights for a song sung by a UK rock band for 1 episode of an 11 episode series, it really makes you start wondering what exactly these record labels put into their contracts with their artists.

  90. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    February 6, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    This games localisation is the gift that keeps on giving.
    If Treehouse is gonna be in charge of Fire Emblem X SMT the shitstorm will be a sight to behold.

  91. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    the 5.5.0 exploit came out?

  92. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 3:04 pm

    fe x smt is already a trash heap. that’s going to be a fun trainwreck.

  93. Neojames82
    Neojames82
    February 6, 2016 at 3:08 pm

    Hmm, interesting. Though I’ve heard they (8-4) messed up Xenoblade for the Wii U.

  94. Audie Bakerson
    Audie Bakerson
    February 6, 2016 at 3:10 pm

    That’s STILL a mark of NoA’s incompetence. This wasn’t some obscure niche game that would never be translated without a massive outcry, it’s the latest in a million selling series and it was a sure thing to be translated.

    If NoA were competent they’d see the demand for original audio and get NCL to make sure to license it for international use when it was being made (which costs almost nothing when done as part of the initial licensing)

  95. Jumanji Joe
    Jumanji Joe
    February 6, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    All this new info slowly coming out is like throwing gasoline on a fire at this point.

  96. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    YES BUT PLEASE STOP TRASHING 8-4. that is ALL nintendo. blame. nintendo.

    DAILY REMINDER: 8-4 ALSO translated DRAGON’S DOGMA and Tales of the Abyss (among others). so they only have control up to what the publishers allow.

    and no one should have to tell you why them doing DD is a big deal. at all.

    i ignorantly used to trash 8-4 too. then i actually looked into it and realised i was blaming the wrong party.

  97. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    February 6, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    …and I don´t see people complaining.

    People do complain about them rippin out the JP voice track for no reason whenever they dub something. Atlus just has allot of shills on their payroll to spam comment sections to drown it out.

  98. Neojames82
    Neojames82
    February 6, 2016 at 3:19 pm

    Well okay then. That’s why I asked. All I remember the hate stemming from was from Mighty No. 9 and Xenoblade.

  99. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    February 6, 2016 at 3:19 pm

    ToA doesnt count since that was before everyone drunk the SJW koolaid.
    Were they responsible for Tales of Hearts R though? Because that localisation was complete and utter ass.

  100. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    No.

    They also did Nier, fwiw.
    and 2010 was well into the brewings of SJW bullshit.

  101. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 6, 2016 at 3:21 pm

    8-4 seems just as much random in terms of quality as NISA (while also being more on the bad side), considering you have bad translation scripts in Drakenguard 3, Eternal Sonata and Tales of Grace f too for instance

  102. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    February 6, 2016 at 3:23 pm

    Just use an archive link next you wanna show something from that shithole to deny them the traffic.

    Like this:
    https://archive.is/Xqpoh

  103. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 3:24 pm

    i think they do what the money gives. like any other localisation/translation company on the market.

    or any market at all.
    look at Gangsta’s art vs sales vs anime quality. the anime quality is choppy at best, it’s not nearly as good as the manga. but it doesn’t sell well, despite being fucking amazing. They just shipped it off to a cheap animation studio because that’s all they had in cash.

    if you don’t give a big budget, you get bad results.
    but 8-4 doesn’t seem to give a fuck about cutting content unless the creators want it cut. dragon’s dogma didn’t really have a bunch of censored content, after all. ToA has nothing cut (even leaving in anise’s crush on jade).

    i haven’t play graces f yet to judge.

  104. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    thank u

  105. Urobolus
    Urobolus
    February 6, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    >Vita

  106. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    very true.
    That said, Atlus usually DOES do a good job with their VAs so it’s pretty tolerable in comparison to many companies.

    But there’s a LOT of people bitching about it and i most definitely would prefer the choice

  107. Astralwyrm
    Astralwyrm
    February 6, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    If the english audio is so bad i would like to just be able to turn off the spoken dialogue personally. Japanese voice acting doesn’t do anything for me but the English voice acting can be really bad sometimes i just want to return to when cringe worthy voice acting didn’t exist because there was no voice acting.

  108. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 3:32 pm

    xenoblade is nintendo, and mighty no. 9 has all kinds of fucking shit going on with it and sjws on the western team. who fucking knows.

  109. Sparrow
    Sparrow
    February 6, 2016 at 3:35 pm

    Yes, you do make a fair point. If NoA had any form of foresight, they may have been able to work something out with the record label. But that may be a big “if” though. I’m unsure of how Being Incorporated (the label that signed both VALSHE and Renka) operates in regards to international policies. This may have just been a “tragedy of the anticommons” type of situation. Coordination breakdown with NoA and Being Incorporated prevented dual audio from happening. Or Being Incorporated just has some really harsh, no wiggle room contracts with their artists. And since NoA doesn’t even give their fanbase the time of day normally, I doubt we’ll ever see clarification on what exactly prevented dual audio from happening.

  110. JCTXS
    JCTXS
    February 6, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    there is an option to turn off story voices at least.

  111. Juhata
    Juhata
    February 6, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    It’s like they are giving me more reasons -not- to buy the game every time they announce something.
    It’s funny that Treehouse is yielding worse localization results than 8-4.

  112. Tyrone Jackson
    Tyrone Jackson
    February 6, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    stay mad at other people’s choices more

  113. Longtooth
    Longtooth
    February 6, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    This is not facts it is just an opinion. Tom might do go good work, but he is really is overly positive when it comes to these things. NoA has a pretty bad track record already, so saying that we should assume the best because of Tom’s tendency to assume the best is pretty stupid. It is also pretty telling that Tom was not even talking about this game, but was talking about Xseeds localizations.

  114. Immahnoob
    Immahnoob
    February 6, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    It had dialogues altered severely though. Thinking Nowi, Inigo and Henry.

  115. Immahnoob
    Immahnoob
    February 6, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    I knew the dual audio won’t be in ages ago, because some people already got answered by NoA support on the matter.

    So my pure unfettered fury is now non-existent, I am still with you guys though.

  116. Immahnoob
    Immahnoob
    February 6, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    THERE’S NO REASON TO COMPLAIN GUYS.

    THEY’RE BUTCHERING A GAME, YOU MUST BUY IT ANYWAY.

    LISTEN TO THIS FAGGOT.

  117. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    February 6, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    ToA is from 2005.

  118. Unmotivated
    Unmotivated
    February 6, 2016 at 4:18 pm

    Like I said, hit-or-miss. They also altered Gregor quite a bit, but no one complains about him since he went from generic, forgettable merc to funny Russian man.

    While I’m not really going to defend needless changes to a character, it really doesn’t look like any of the changes were due to censorship, which I think is an important distinction to make.

  119. Unmotivated
    Unmotivated
    February 6, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    The actual translation for Xeno X was solid, it didn’t shy away from the adult humor and as far as I know there was no actual censorship in the dialogue.

    The problem was the actual censorship of outfits and visual content, which someone asked 8-4 about on twitter, and they claimed they had no oversight over the actual content whatsoever and only handled the dialogue.

    So again, it’s NoA wanting to keep things as family friendly as possible, even when that content won’t affect their ESRB rating in the slightest.

  120. Unmotivated
    Unmotivated
    February 6, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    God, I forgot 8-4 was responsible for the aughtism.

  121. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 6, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    ahh i said no to tales of hearts r.

  122. No_Good_Names_Ever
    No_Good_Names_Ever
    February 6, 2016 at 4:44 pm

    I’ve never cared much about voice actors but from what I’ve heard from videos of Fates, they shoulda left it in for the people who aren’t blessed with being deaf.

  123. No_Good_Names_Ever
    No_Good_Names_Ever
    February 6, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    And you call yourself a weeb…

  124. OlimacFTW
    OlimacFTW
    February 6, 2016 at 5:14 pm

    And it’s censored.

  125. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 6, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    BRAVO NINTENDO
    R
    A
    V
    O

  126. Siveon
    Siveon
    February 6, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    He’s technically not wrong. Atlus fans weren’t up and arms over the 4 images censored. Miffed, but actually receiving a statement really calmed a lot of people down.

  127. Ryuzaki57
    Ryuzaki57
    February 6, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    OMG this is so BAD AH AH AH. I’m so happy to import…

  128. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 6, 2016 at 5:34 pm

    A real faggot

  129. Eldhin Hellknight
    Eldhin Hellknight
    February 6, 2016 at 5:36 pm

    Seriously, looks like Nintendo whants to make people angry

  130. Siveon
    Siveon
    February 6, 2016 at 5:39 pm

    I guess I’ll go with the fan-translation once its finished.

  131. Urobolus
    Urobolus
    February 6, 2016 at 5:48 pm

    >Vita

    You’ve made your bed, now lie in it.

  132. Anon630
    Anon630
    February 6, 2016 at 5:55 pm

    I’m starting to convince myself that Nintendo wants to know what bankruptcy is like.

  133. evilmajikman
    evilmajikman
    February 6, 2016 at 5:56 pm

    Too bad it’s Japanese language. The English language just makes more sense to me given the context of the story. I mean the setting was New LA. If the setting was New Tokyo, then I’d be pro-JP language.

  134. evilmajikman
    evilmajikman
    February 6, 2016 at 5:58 pm

    Which is why if I buy an NX, it’s going to be an import unit. Sick of Nintendo’s attitude towards it’s Western user base.

  135. epy
    epy
    February 6, 2016 at 6:00 pm

    Final nail, I’ll go with the fan translation once I figure that whole deal out.

  136. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    February 6, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    What does the Vita have to do with censorship?

  137. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 6, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    You Nintendo fanboys are getting worse.

  138. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    February 6, 2016 at 6:04 pm

    Is that Fuuka’s voice from Persona 3?

  139. epy
    epy
    February 6, 2016 at 6:04 pm

    Charming.

  140. Ryuzaki57
    Ryuzaki57
    February 6, 2016 at 6:12 pm

    The guy in this video is playing like a dummy and is sure to fail. This mission was so fu** hard. Lost Odin here.

  141. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 6, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    Fanboys in general are terrible tbh

  142. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 6, 2016 at 6:50 pm

    I agree.

  143. Immahnoob
    Immahnoob
    February 6, 2016 at 6:52 pm

    HE’S IN THE CLOSET, ALL TUCKED UP.

    BUT HE STILL RELEASES “THE FAGGOT”, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.

  144. Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    February 6, 2016 at 7:10 pm

    right….
    I have other things to worry about than a game not having something petting mini game and dual audio.

  145. scemar
    scemar
    February 6, 2016 at 7:10 pm

    YOU’RE NOT SQUIDDING ME IT’S TRUE

  146. Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    February 6, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    Otaku as in I love anime, manga and gaming. I don’t live off it. It’s a hobby.

  147. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    February 6, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    Like arguing on the internet about a petting mini game and dual audio?

  148. Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    February 6, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    Oh….why should I worry about game not getting pointless features?
    I have more things to worry about that are important in my life than some crappy petting minigame and dual audio.

  149. scemar
    scemar
    February 6, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    It’s Nintendo though.
    They’re no strangers to the industry, they have connections, they know how the business works because they’ve been there since the beginning.

    I just can’t accept any rationalization for them not being able to secure any right they might need.

  150. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    Otaku by its definition means you make it your identity which implies living off it.

    Fucking idiot. Claiming to know the culture you’re leeching off.

  151. Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    February 6, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    nope. Making money, getting my driving license.

    Seeing you cry babies is just entertainment for me when I have free time.

  152. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 6, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    I’m pretty sure that otakus live off of those things, you amateur.

  153. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    OOH RIGHT AT THE SAME TIME

  154. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 7:17 pm

    >Getting your Driver’s License

    HOLY SHIT GUYS. UNDERAGE ALERT.

  155. benzene
    benzene
    February 6, 2016 at 7:21 pm

    I wonder how does it feel to continually shoot yourself in the foot. Nintendo, will you tell me?

  156. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 6, 2016 at 7:22 pm

    >Making money
    Youtube money doesnt count

  157. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    February 6, 2016 at 7:23 pm

    Hes gonna fail at least 5 times for his exam because he stays up too late arguing with weebs.

  158. Immahnoob
    Immahnoob
    February 6, 2016 at 7:24 pm

    LOOK, IT’S THE FAGGOT IN HIS PRO-CENSORSHIP HABITAT.

    HE’S TRYING TO TALK TO US ABOUT “IMPORTANT THINGS IN HIS LIFE” WHILE HE’S INTENTIONALLY FINDING FIRE EMBLEM ARTICLES TO POST IN.

    HAHA, FAGGOTS ARE FUNNY.

  159. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 7:25 pm

    And ones that don’t lie about it to boot.

    Speaking of boot why didn’t his parents shove one in his ass yet?

  160. DizzyGear
    DizzyGear
    February 6, 2016 at 7:28 pm

    I dunno. They should though. Those exams aint cheap.
    I already have my drivers licence so i have all the time in the world.
    I just noticed his DJK avatar so i’m gonna call him Dick Joker from now on.

  161. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 7:29 pm

    Holy fuck my sides

  162. Nani Sore
    Nani Sore
    February 6, 2016 at 7:38 pm

    Just…just stop.
    Please for your own sake.

  163. Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    February 6, 2016 at 7:41 pm

    I am 21. I just haven’t found a reason to get it until now.

  164. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 7:42 pm

    Think you better go man I hear your mom calling

  165. FinalFight
    FinalFight
    February 6, 2016 at 7:46 pm

    GIVE IT A SPIN!

  166. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 7:49 pm

    Oh no man, you listen to your mom.

  167. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 7:50 pm

    No we just don’t like mega ass shitheads borking up our neck of the woods

  168. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 6, 2016 at 7:51 pm

    “ooga booga”
    Weak words from someone who claim to ‘love his hobbies’.

  169. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 6, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    When will enough be enough? First Nintendo censored their games, then they locked content behind physical DLC, and now they are removing entire gameplay sections. We will you finally get angry at Nintendo taking content from you?

  170. Miragos
    Miragos
    February 6, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    I know that there are some examples of recent anime licensing issues, but they are few, minor issues and often quickly resolved:
    “Crunchyroll added the Punk Hazard episodes that were previously not available on their website during August 2014 and used “Hands Up!” instead of “We
    Go!”. The simulcast, however, continues to use “We Go!” for those particular episodes.”
    (Source: onepiece wikia)

  171. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 6, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    It’s not about “making me feel better”, it’s a mere fact you just try to ignore. You just pretend to be something you’re not.

  172. Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    February 6, 2016 at 8:28 pm

    the my room is still there. You can’t pet them. The live 2d art still exist. More like do some research.

    I am supporting the franchise not content.
    The locked content is optional, who fault is it? Amiibo supports of Splatoon.

  173. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    So is your mom’s vagina :^)

  174. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 8:32 pm

    Just like your social life

  175. Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    February 6, 2016 at 8:33 pm

    ? okay….what a sad human you are. Nothing but insults you can bring out?

  176. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    So what have you done?

  177. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    February 6, 2016 at 8:42 pm

    The reasons not to buy a Nintendo product anymore keep piling up.It’s like they took a sledgehammer and keep hiting themselves on the foot with it.

  178. Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    February 6, 2016 at 8:43 pm

    nothing and what have you done? complain about censorship

  179. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    February 6, 2016 at 8:45 pm

    I wonder if they do it on purpose at the moment,so many wrong decisions.Do they want to wreck the company?

  180. DeusEx
    DeusEx
    February 6, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    So he calls himself Otaku, but is against a petting minigame where you touch digital 2D girls?

    It is these types of people who hang high from trees first.

  181. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    And what have you done? Bitch about people complaining about censorship while obviously lying about your life.

  182. Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    Otaku DJK1NG (YouTube)
    February 6, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    nope everything I said is true. I am 21, working to make more money, planning to get my license finally and love anime, manga and gaming.

    As I said before yall comments are entertainment. Not my fault yall so damn sensitive over little thing like this.

  183. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    February 6, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    People playing japanese games while calling others weebs are idiots anyway.

  184. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    February 6, 2016 at 9:31 pm

    This guy calling himself an Otaku is like Sarkeesian calling herself a gamer.Comes on a gaming site of niche/otakus and tells people there are more important things in life,really intelligent dude…

  185. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    >Ya’ll

    Country ass hick. It probably took your ass 3 minutes to upload that comment

  186. Jumanji Joe
    Jumanji Joe
    February 6, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    Shill

  187. dsadsada
    dsadsada
    February 6, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    I can understand a record company could make it impossible to bring songs of their contracted singers overseas but can it really stretch as far as simple dialogue too?

  188. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    February 6, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    In Japan they have a place in the woods especially for people like him.

  189. dsadsada
    dsadsada
    February 6, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    Technically there are but what makes an otaku is the fact that they ignore those things in favor of his/her hobby. That’s why otaku is a slur after all.

    And also why I don’t label myself as such, precisely to avoid how stupid he’s looking right now.

  190. Cael
    Cael
    February 6, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    “The live 2d art still exist”
    Yeah. The end of it.

  191. Cael
    Cael
    February 6, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    Friendly reminder.

  192. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    February 6, 2016 at 9:58 pm

    I mean it says right there that it’s usually not about being able to afford it in the cases in question and more that literally they won’t allow them to have it regardless of how much money they have so I don’t know what Nintendo’s bank account has to do with any of this

    If you want to assume the worst then by all means but I am going to openly criticise the lack of logical reasoning in the comments that are doing so

    There’s a perfectly good explanation sitting right in front of people and they’d rather make up conspiratorial garbage to justify the fact that they’re just plain salty. Like, everyone gets salty from time to time, just admit it and move on

  193. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    February 6, 2016 at 9:59 pm

    >Implying that someone who works in the business doesn’t definitely know more about how this works than you do

    I can’t take this comment even remotely seriously

  194. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    Please go on about how great your life is. It’s amusing how you think we care

  195. snugdarkly
    snugdarkly
    February 6, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    Why do you call yourself an otaku when everything about you screams that you’re a normie?

  196. King of Zeroes
    King of Zeroes
    February 6, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    Have you played the latest Mario Party and Mario Tennis games? They’re hot garbage. Nintendo’s can’t even do right by their own IP at the moment.

  197. Neojames82
    Neojames82
    February 6, 2016 at 10:49 pm

    Well, that kinda opens things up a bit. Guess I was giving 8-4 a bit of unfair flak. Also, guess it does not surprise me that NoA is the real one behind this nonsense. I lived in the 8-bit/16-bit era so I know about NoA being censorship happy.

  198. Sparrow
    Sparrow
    February 6, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    Just from what I’ve picked up from various statements made by Tom from XSEED, some of the JP contracts are a bit weird. What’s interesting is that Azura’s speaking voice was Lynn while Renka was her singing voice. I could see them just cutting Renka’s voice and making the song English only and making dual audio work that way, but then there’d be complaints that it wasn’t true dual audio. However, Hayato (or rather Tsukuyomi) just has VALSHE as his speaking voice. No way of getting around that character… And sometimes it isn’t even record companies that can prevent dual audio from happening. Sometimes it’s actually the contracts of the voice actors/actresses themselves that can prevent it. From what I understand, there are some contracts out there that can seriously limit their exposure outside of Japan.

  199. Choppinfoot
    Choppinfoot
    February 6, 2016 at 11:14 pm

    There wasn’t any reason left to buy it anyway, so I couldn’t care less.

  200. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 6, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    Really guys? I thought we were above the SJW scum, but look at you all, attacking people that disagree with your call to boycott a game, telling them they should kill themselves or be killed. How can you advocate for consumer rights, and then shit on someones right to choose, if they dare post is dissenting opinion to your collectivist narrative. How are you different from SJWs again?

    I too am pissed off about the censorship in this game, but I will also be buying it, because I don’t believe that Japanese voice actors or a petting mini-game, is going to affect my enjoyment of the game as a whole. I’m not going to deprive myself of an enjoyable experience for an agenda. I’m not an SJW, I’m a consumer, and I have the right to choose to spend my money on whatever I want.

    If you want to tell me to kill myself for not boycotting this game, go ahead. Not like it matters. However just remember that you are doing the exact thing that SJWs blame us for. You are the ones letting gamers down.

  201. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 6, 2016 at 11:45 pm

    You must not be that pissed off at censorship to still support it with your wallet. You are acting like the SJWs.

  202. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 6, 2016 at 11:47 pm

    It’s amusing how you think people care about you. But I’ll play

    Does widdle Dick Joke wanna pwaaaay pokemon? Because you are the most otaku otaku to ever exist. Oooh gooo gaga

  203. Derek
    Derek
    February 6, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    What is it with people thinking Ninty want it to be family friendly? These days its about keeping the snarling dogs of Clickbait Journalism asleep as its dogowners would scold nintendo for making them mad.

  204. Fear Me I Am Free
    Fear Me I Am Free
    February 6, 2016 at 11:56 pm

    See if this game was rated E, I would be more understandable, but it’s not. There’s no valid reason any of this should have gotten censored.

  205. Fear Me I Am Free
    Fear Me I Am Free
    February 6, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    I would suggest that anyone who cancels their preorder, email and inform Nintendo to why you canceled it. Showing them the order info. If enough did it, maybe they would realize that people don’t like this shit.

  206. Neojames82
    Neojames82
    February 7, 2016 at 12:55 am

    Look, the guy can have his viewpoints and all, but you pretty much tune me out when you spout nonsense like “Marriage is between a man and a woman.”

  207. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 7, 2016 at 1:09 am

    It’s amusing that you find everything amusing.

  208. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 1:55 am

    Because I don’t allow an agenda to get in the way of me enjoying myself? Yeah, that’s the exact opposite of SJWs.

    Once again though, you are implying that I am in the wrong for wanting to play this game because of an agenda. Consumer rights is about giving consumers the choice. That includes not belittling and threatening people who choose buy a game that you disapprove of.

    SJWs and Feminists do the same, they claim that they are for equality and the rights to choose, but if you don’t choose what they tell you too, they harass, threaten and attack you.

    Make up your mind if you are for freedom of choice or to push yet another hardline agenda.

  209. Longtooth
    Longtooth
    February 7, 2016 at 2:59 am

    You seem like you misunderstand, the fact that there is sometimes a problem with getting the japanese voices is pretty well known. The opinion part is, that in 99% of the time they really did try their best in getting it. As I said, Tom really does assume the best when it comes to localizations.
    Also, the fact that problems sometimes occur with getting the japanese voices. Does not mean that we should just assume that that is happening, especially in this case when you consider NoA’s reputation.

  210. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 7, 2016 at 3:31 am

    Thinking like that is why you are a SJW. SJWs are always pro-censorship. And just like the feminist you play the victim. Pretending that people that are angry at us losing content in our games are monsters that want you dead. Get over yourself! You should be angry that Nintendo thinks so little of you that they take content from you. They think you are a baby and they may be right. Just like the SJWs and Feminists you think with emotions instead of logic. You need to think! If you allow this sort of bad practice happen just because you love Nintendo they would continue to do this and may even get worse!
    Make up your mind child will you side with the gamers and freedom of speech or Nintendo and censorship. The choice is yours.

  211. Akuma
    Akuma
    February 7, 2016 at 4:10 am

    I think we should give an award to NoA for butchering one of the most loved franchise. This level of incompetence seems to be out of this world.

  212. Audie Bakerson
    Audie Bakerson
    February 7, 2016 at 4:12 am

    Being liberals, SJWs at NoA don’t know about trigger discipline or pointing the muzzle in a safe direction.

  213. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 4:30 am

    I love how your only form of retort is a long form way of saying “I know you are, you said you are but what am I?”

    Dude, SJWs are authoritarians. You are dictating your agenda, and stating that anyone else is wrong.

    On the flip side, I’m libertarian, and I am straight up saying that people should have the right to make a decision on they want to buy, and shouldn’t be attacked for their choices, with messages that they will be lynched or told to commit suicide.

    As for those message of attack, I wasn’t referring to myself, so I’m not playing the victim, though I’m sure you would love to mischaracterise this discussion that way. Mischaracterising a situation… isn;t that something else SJWs do?

    You see unlike SJWs I can actually quote what I’m referring too, and both of these comments are still in this public forum:

    “So he calls himself Otaku, but is against a petting minigame where you touch digital 2D girls?

    It is these types of people who hang high from trees first.”

    And:

    “In Japan they have a place in the woods especially for people like him.”

    First a reference to lynching someone who disagreed with what is being said here, and the other referencing the suicide forest of Japan, saying it’s a place for him.

    So there, no ones playing a victim, I’m simply stating a fact. Someone was passively told they will be lynched or should kill themselves, all because they think the things that have been censored in this game amount to shit all, and want to buy the game anyway. That is called authoritarian.

    Interestingly you say I’m playing a victim, that people aren’t attacking or harassing me, yet you continuously belittle me, calling me a child. Hypocrite and a liar too. You’re on a roll!

    Also, is that the best insult you can come up with? It’s demonstrably untrue. So why would I be offended. There are two things that you should never be offended by, lies and the truth. If it were true, there would be no shame in it, if it’s a lie, then it’s bullshit. Keep trying though, I’m sure you’ll come up with something that will offend me eventually, just try to do it without attacking me ok, otherwise you’re going to look even more like a hypocrite.

    You say I should get over myself, when you are acting like a spoiled, entitled brat. You have your head so far up your ass I don’t know where you begin or end. You can remain like that if you really want to, but the thing is it makes you very short sighted.

    Japan sees the west as this crazy social justice war zone. A lot of companies, not just Nintendo are afraid of the backlash brought on by our mainstream SJW, leftist-progressive media. They paint a picture of a socio-political landscape that would be financial suicide to release games into. From their perspective, they thing that games will be forced to be censored or banned for taboo content. So rather than printing a million games and waiting to be told to take them off the shelves, they are self censoring. They are choosing to make the changes that they think the west at large wants. Can you blame them for having that opinion when people like Anita Sarkeesian is getting all the attention she is for saying how evil video games are?

    What we need to do in the west is fight those people, change the social zeitgeist to appear more accepting of more risque things. I would much rather Nintendo still be around when that happens.

    I don’t agree with censorship, but I can at least respect them wanting to maintain the integrity of their games by changing them themselves, rather than the perception that they will have to change them later.

    Also, I’m saying that I don’t need a petting mini game, or Japanese voice acting to enjoy the rest of the game. And you are the one stubbornly saying “No! If I can’t have the boobies I don’t want any of it!”

    The choice between Nintendo and Gamers is entirely fallacious. The choice is not a dichotomy, it’s a nebulous chaotic void, where many things stack up to make those choices. It’s not black and white, it’s always going to be grey. Ultimately, even without the tits, I’m going to be able to enjoy this game, and as was my point from the start, I’m not going to spite myself, and deprive myself of this experience that I know I’m going to enjoy, all because if an agenda.

    That’s my choice, I choose me. My enjoyment.

    It’s entirely selfish, and I can live with that.

  214. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 7, 2016 at 4:39 am

    People like you are why the gaming industry is in such a bad place. Not only are you selfish but also ignorant. How can you not understand that when you support practices like this then it will just continue and get worse. Why when Nintendo censors things it’s magically OK? When will you SJWs be satisfied? How much damage must be done to freedom of speech until you guys will stop? Censorship in any form is wrong and I will always fight against it. If you support censorship then so be it but don’t pretend to be pissed off by it.

  215. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 4:40 am

    The fight for consumer rights must always be the right for the consumer to make their choice of what products they wish to consume on an individual level. That is freedom of choice.

    The choice you are offering is between two authoritarian regimes. The list of games that SJWs say we can play because they are diverse, and inclusive, or else we’re evil. Or the list of games you say we can play, because they are what you think they should be, or else you are evil.

    That’s not a choice, that’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

    You are the reason that gaming is in a bad place. You make the fandom a vile place to be.

  216. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 4:42 am

    Also, I never said it was ok because it was Nintendo. Stop putting words in my mouth. Also, stop calling me an SJW, you are the authoritarian here, not me.

  217. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 4:42 am

    >”ur as bad as SJWs”
    This meme again
    In every censorship-related thread

    >”I am against censorship but I will support the butchered product/company from it anyway”
    And that’s why you’re a faggot
    Such a weak-willed faggot.

  218. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 4:44 am

    I will buy a game I know I will enjoy. Problem?

  219. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 4:45 am

    Oh wait. My bad, I don’t care if you have a problem. :)

    Have a nice day.

  220. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 7, 2016 at 4:45 am

    Strawing manning me will not change the truth. Every time I see Nintendo censor their games I see people defend them back and forth but I don’t see people defending censorship from other companies. Why is that? Do You SJWs like Nintendo and censorship?

  221. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 4:46 am

    Quote my strawman.

  222. Makoto
    Makoto
    February 7, 2016 at 4:47 am

    They were so focused on censoring the game they even forgot to plan a release date for Europe, and you’re wondering why Nintendo is not performing well here… look no further: late or cancelled releases, crappy localisations/censorship and poor distribution (ebay was the only way to get xenoblade on release date in some contries !) way to go Nintendo !

  223. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 4:47 am

    Just say that you’re going to buy the product instead of writing walls of text that you’re “against censorship”. It will make you at least more honest and less of a faggot.

  224. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 7, 2016 at 4:48 am

    You stawmaning everyone that are against SJWs like you as authoritarian monsters just because we support freedom of speech.

  225. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 4:50 am

    As for the “meme” (lol) maybe a little self examination will reveal that you are being just as authoritarian as they are. telling people what games they should or shouldn’t buy based on an agenda?

    Tell me how that makes you different from Anita Sarkeesia who also tries to tell people what games they should or shouldn’t buy based on an agenda?

    I am opposed to censorship, and I will be happy when there isn’t any, but I’m not going to stop playing games until such a day arrives. I’m an entirely honest about my intentions.

  226. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 4:50 am

    Except Awakening also had dual track audio.
    I’m pretty sure you were trying to target XSeeD for something they cant do anything on, while Nintendo has enough funds to make dual audio happening from the localization of its own games.

    But heh, as usual you’re still acting like a faggot. Continue to be the laughing stock.

  227. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 4:52 am

    You are not supporting freedom of speech, you are telling me I shouldn’t buy this game, and if I do I’m guilty of wrongthink.

    Interesting how you haven’t actually revisited the fact that I quoted people who were actually attacking others.

    Also, still not an SJW. I am an anti-authoritarian, anti-feminist, libertarian. So once again, come up with a better insult, because continuing to say that makes you look like a moron.

  228. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 7, 2016 at 4:56 am

    Wrong again child as I said if you want to support censorship and fight against freedom of speech then you can but just understand that you are part of the problem. And you and your SJWs allies will have no right to complain as you guys make the gaming industry worse. I wonder what Nintendo will take from us next?

  229. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 4:57 am

    >opposed to censorship
    >still buy censored products
    Again that’s not how things work nigga
    You have either the solution to wait for a fan-translation (which will happen in the case of FE Fates) or play the jap version of the game.

  230. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 4:59 am

    The whole “people should at least be respected for their opinions” is the reason why we got into that (political-correctness) mess in the first place.

  231. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:00 am

    LMAO! Sure sure mate :P

    Child, yeah, check. That one’s getting old.
    SJW, check.
    Claiming that I’m fighting for censorship while you are actively shaming people for wanting to buy a game. Check.

    I’ll wait while you come up with some new material though, so please do continue though, I promise you I’m listening.

    Furthermore

  232. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    February 7, 2016 at 5:03 am

    “>I’m against censorship and sjws but i will keep giving them my money.”

    Sounds logical. -_-

  233. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 7, 2016 at 5:05 am

    Why should I waste my time? You have already decided that you don’t care how your actions affect others. Just don’t lie and say you hate censorship as it makes you look like a major hypocrite.

  234. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:08 am

    You are not the solution.

    You are just another authoritarian. You still shame people for buying games that don’t align with your agenda.

    People have the right to buy whatever games they want, and don’t deserve to be shamed for not buying an import, waiting to use a fan translation, or acquire a pirated game.

    I want censorship to end, but I’m not going to spite myself while I’m waiting. If you feel that strongly about it that’s cool, but don’t think everyone sees things in such extremes as you.

  235. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:08 am

    I’ve never given SJWs my money. If I have, please provide evidence.

  236. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    February 7, 2016 at 5:10 am

    You are doing just that by buying the western version of this game.

  237. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:10 am

    I hate censorship. And you are currently attempting to shame people into not buying games. Therefore I don’t much like you either, because you are using guilt and shame as a weapon to censor.

  238. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 5:14 am

    I shame people who are being hypocrites, faggot.

    >I MUST SPEND MY MONEY AT ALL COST
    >I HATE CENSORSHIP BUT STILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT CENSORSHIP WITH MY MONEY
    >YOU WANT GAMES TO BE IN THEIR ORIGINAL INTENT AND NOT ALTERED/CENSORED? THAT MEANS YOU HAVE AN AGENDA, SJW!

    Jesus christ what a fucking cuck you are.

  239. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 7, 2016 at 5:17 am

    What is up with you SJWs and always throwing the whole “people are shaming me” excuse? You guys and the feminist act like someone thinking less of you is the worse thing in the world. Have you guys ever stopped to think that maybe their’s a reason why people think so little of you?

  240. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:19 am

    Not really. As I said below, Nintendo are shaping the game for the western audience, because they believe that the west is all crazy SJWs thanks to our mainstream leftist progressive media.

    We need to prove that those people are the minority, which is incredibly hard to do when we aren’t allowed a voice, and when we do get a platform to make our voice heard, it’s vilified, and once again perpetuates and enforces the perception that we are the minority. It may piss off what they think is a minority of gamers, but it’s a sound business decision. They are afraid, and I don’t blame them.

    If they only catered to what the western media is saying are a few thousand hardcore gamers, it would be financial suicide.

    We need to change how the west is perceived, I have no idea how to do that, but I know that needs to happen. However I don’t think boycotting these games will work this time. With the way that they see the west, intentionally lowering sales won’t prove to them that there are more of us, it’ll make them think they need to censor more. Because the main stream media will use our boycott, and put a spin on it saying that it didn’t sell for progressive reasons. We won’t get our message to them, through the mainstream media censor wall.

    However we know full well than Nintendo are not SJWs, because if they were, they wouldn’t have that content in there to begin with in order for us to bitch about it being removed.

  241. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:20 am

    Sure thing mate, I feel your pain. I too am gay.

  242. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:24 am

    Excuse nothing. It’s not an excuse, I don’t need to excuse my opinions. Would I express myself if I were afraid or ashamed of my opinions?

    You are however shaming people who simply want to enjoy this game. Myself included. You are calling me an SJW, a child and saying that I personally am what’s wrong with the games industry, three things which are lies, yet for some reason you think is pissing me. So there’s that intention to offend me too.

    (Which you are failing at by the way.)

    So how is me saying that you are trying to shame me, incorrect, in any way?

  243. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 5:28 am

    >LETS BUY CENSORED PRODUCT TO PROVE TO ALL WE’RE AGAINST CENSORSHIP AND NOT SJWs
    >WE SHOULDNT BOYCOTT/PIRATE BECAUSE THAT WILL GIVE US A BAD REPUTATION
    >NoA ISNT SJW I SWEAR
    >IM SUCH A FUCKING DELUSIONAL CUCK THE POST

  244. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 7, 2016 at 5:28 am

    Any shame that you are feeling is from your own conscience. You know everything I said here is true as you even admitted that you are selfish for supporting this censorship for your own sake.

  245. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:29 am

    Sure thing mate. I don’t care.

    Your constant inability to have an honest discussion, and your persistent attempted to win the argument by shaming belittling and insults is tiresome.

    No doubt you’ll claim victory in the fact that I’m no longer going to respond to your nonsense,but I have faith that some people can actually see that it’s your methods that I refuse to dignify any further and not your content.

  246. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    February 7, 2016 at 5:30 am

    “You are just another authoritarian”
    Now wait a minute, faggot. If the KKK made a game about killing minorities I would support their right to do so. As much as I would dislike that content they have a right to make it and publish it, unaltered.
    Are we on the same page here?
    Authoritarians would wish it censored. People are advocating for you to not purchase a product that was altered by authoritarians, or people that think they know what is best. People are advocating for you to support products, or localized games, that capture the original intent of the creators. REGARDLESS of what that content is.

    People have the right to buy whatever they want, but when they complain and support a butchered product they deserve every fucking insult hurled at them. Don’t be a hypocrite. If expecting a complete product for your money is being “extreme” you should possibly fucking consider suicide.

  247. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:32 am

    >I CAN ONLY WIN ARGUMENTS BY DRIVING PEOPLE AWAY WITH INSULTS BECAUSE MY RHETORIC HOLDS NO INTERNAL LOGICAL CONSISTENCY
    >I REFUSE TO SEE A SITUATION FROM SOMEONE ELSE PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE I’M ALWAYS CORRECT
    >MY CAPS LOCK BUTTON IS STUCK ON
    >I DON’T ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO FORM SENTENCES

  248. Richard Miller
    Richard Miller
    February 7, 2016 at 5:32 am

    Why do you need others to agree with you? If you feel safe in your life choices then what I or others think wouldn’t matter to you.

  249. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    February 7, 2016 at 5:34 am

    This is not an authoritarian extreme. We are advocating for people to NOT PURCHASE products altered by authoritarians. How fucking dense can you be?

  250. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    February 7, 2016 at 5:35 am

    If you buy this game you are not supporting freedom of speech. PERIOD.

  251. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 5:36 am

    But your arguments hold no logic, faggot. You’re asking to support the butchered product (despite you say you’re against censorship and want to change the perception of the West that we arent triggered-happy censorfags) just because it is in english. (which hold nothing because of the upcoming fantranslation)

    “waaaa he called me a fag”
    Wouldnt have happened if you werent such a hypocrite.

  252. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    February 7, 2016 at 5:37 am

    Nintendo =/= NoA. NoA is full of leftist trash. NoJ obviously isn’t.

  253. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:42 am

    >I THINK CALLING SOMEONE A FAGGOT IS AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO AGREE WITH ME.

    *ahem* sorry was still stuck in idiot mode…

    Actually yes, I too would support that game. I supported Hatred, (though that game was total shit) and I support consumers rights to choose what games they want to buy or not, as well as developers rights to choose what content they have or don’t have in games.

    Wait so if a developer decides what is in their games, and decides what’s best for their games, does that make them authoritarians by default?

    What if a developer intends for different content for two different sides of the great big blue wet thing?

    What is a complete product? Nintendo also announced that there was content made for the western release that isn’t in the Japanese release. Would it be different if the games have different names? (Actually they do, IF in Japan and Fates in the West.)

    I don’t expect an answer, it’s not a real question it’s just an interesting conundrum.

    Also…

    >I THINK TELLING PEOPLE TO CONSIDER SUICIDE IS AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO AGREE WITH ME.

  254. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:43 am

    I would say there is certainly an influence, but it’s not beyond saving. You can’t save something if you burn it to the ground.

  255. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:44 am

    Clearly this much.

    I_____o_____I

  256. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:45 am

    I’m supporting my right as a consumer to buy whatever I want. Consumer rights are the rights of an individual, not a collectivist groupthink.

    I will enjoy this game, therefore I will play it.

    Come stop me.

  257. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    February 7, 2016 at 5:49 am

    “Wait so if a developer decides what is in their games, and decides
    what’s best for their games, does that make them authoritarians by
    default?”

    “favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom”

    It makes them an artist, or a content creator. Why does this need to be explained?

    “What if a developer intends for different content for two different sides of the great big blue wet thing?”

    The content creator is not deciding this. The authoritarian localizers are. Are you fucking retarded?

    “What is a complete product? Nintendo also announced that there was
    content made for the western release that isn’t in the Japanese release.
    Would it be different if the games have different names? (Actually they
    do, IF in Japan and Fates in the West.)”

    Stop playing semantics. The western version has supports and a touching minigame removed. The product is not complete as the original creator intended. Also, I don’t think the west should get bonus features over Japan. Japan should get those same features for free in an update.

    “>I THINK TELLING PEOPLE TO CONSIDER SUICIDE IS AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO AGREE WITH ME.”

    I’m not trying to get anyone to agree with me. I want you to remove yourself from the gene pool. I wouldn’t call you a faggot if you weren’t being one.

  258. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    February 7, 2016 at 5:50 am

    We’re expressing our right to freedom of speech to call you a fucking hypocrite moron.

  259. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:51 am

    There’s nothing more authoritarian than eugenics. :)

  260. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    February 7, 2016 at 5:51 am

    You can save it by simply NOT FUCKING SUPPORTING SHIT LOCALIZATIONS. I understand the concept of not supporting shit products is foreign to you because you are a consumer whore. It’s okay, we understand.

  261. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:52 am

    Cool, and shockingly I support your right to do so. Though it seems to come off more like personal attacks and outrage from this side of the monitor.

    Just saying…

  262. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:53 am

    >I WILL CALL YOU A WHORE TO GET YOU TO AGREE WITH ME

  263. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    February 7, 2016 at 5:53 am

    It’s a fact though. Stating that you are a hypocrite is not an attack. It’s objective.

  264. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    February 7, 2016 at 5:54 am

    Argue my point instead of cherry picking my insults.

  265. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:54 am

    Telling me to commit suicide is.

  266. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 5:55 am

    But he’s right. Like I said earlier (guess you were too busy about parroting my meme arrows and caps lock), you have that need to spend your money at all cost despite you get fucked as a consumer with the butchered product.

  267. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:55 am

    I’ll have an honest debate with you when you stop insulting me, right now I’m intentionally going around in illogical circles because it’s pissing everyone off.

    Yes, I admit, I’m trolling the whole lot of you.

  268. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:56 am

    Parroting or parodying?

    Huh? HUUUUH?? :D

  269. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 5:57 am

    “I was just pretending to be retarded”

  270. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    February 7, 2016 at 5:57 am

    “I WAS MERELY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED!”
    You don’t want an honest debate. You want people to agree with you. I just want you to see how stupid the shit you’re saying is, you don’t have to agree with me.

  271. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 5:59 am

    Ok.

    I still agree with my initial statement, I just haven’t given a shit about this discussion since about half way through talking with Dick Miller.

    You only seem to give a shit about insulting and having a dishonest debate, so why should I care?

  272. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    February 7, 2016 at 6:00 am

    And you only seem to give a shit about making video games worse, hence the insults.

  273. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 6:02 am

    Cool, glad you got that off your chest. You’re wrong of course. However I wouldn’t expect you to understand anything beyond your black and white, dichotomy based thinking.

  274. Ubrokemygrill?
    Ubrokemygrill?
    February 7, 2016 at 6:03 am

    “We need to change how the west is perceived, I have no idea how to do that”

    You can start by not supporting shitty products, no matter how badly you want the game.

  275. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 6:17 am

    That’s one option.

    Personally I intend to pretend to support SJWs when they say they should be the only people allowed to go to Mars to colonize. Then they can have a social justice planet all to themselves.

    Once they are all on Mars, that’s when we send the nukes.

  276. Alistair
    Alistair
    February 7, 2016 at 7:00 am

    Yup I agree doesn’t know what Otaku is a proper Otaku fan would know what it was & wouldn’t care of questionable content.

    Because niche does mean Ecchi & funny games not like mainstream games of extreme violence of death.

  277. Alistair
    Alistair
    February 7, 2016 at 7:04 am

    On a plus side what ever happened to joystiq, moviebob & Leigh Alexander.

    Well joystiq is shut down, moviebob lost his job, & Leigh Alexander quits game journlism.

    It a good day for us true gamers & a bad day for them.

  278. Andy Frogman
    Andy Frogman
    February 7, 2016 at 7:07 am

    Damn… I just screwed up. Is there a way to get comments back, I’m not particularly used to using disqus?

  279. Immahnoob
    Immahnoob
    February 7, 2016 at 7:21 am

    Where’s that from?

  280. Alistair
    Alistair
    February 7, 2016 at 7:21 am

    & yes let’s talk about petting being remove from the game that cause grief among the purlists.

    Because it more fucked up & stupid & see the inconsistency of these narrow minded retards.

    So what is the petting that cause concern for ninty? Now petting of the character head & face is now considered offensive.

    You not poking at her tit like senran or her buttocks in senran just petting on her head.

    My god you can’t get fucking stupid enough then that.

    Here a Advice for all purlists if you so fucking concern about every fucking thing why don’t you go the whole hog & criticism of every other media because you got nothing esle to do with your life.

    You’re mission creed is to cause grief in other community because you’re feeled triggered.

  281. thatguyEZ
    thatguyEZ
    February 7, 2016 at 8:02 am

    For sure, I’m stunned at how successful NoA has been at putting me off of game releases. I’ll likely continue to get their handhelds, but that’s really strictly for games like Etrian Odyssey and other third party games. I was so excited for FE Fates, the gorgeous artwork, character designs, and the fantastic gameplay. But NoA has destroyed my excitement for the game. I’ll pick it up used, as I refuse to support this kind of behavior, though i’d rather import a Japanese copy but Nintendo won’t even let me do that.

  282. thatguyEZ
    thatguyEZ
    February 7, 2016 at 8:14 am

    >is 21
    >doesn’t have drivers license
    >claiming to have a social life

    Fucking scrubs

  283. 萌ゲー
    萌ゲー
    February 7, 2016 at 8:55 am

    Let’s predict more fuck ups by Fates!
    >censored full price swimsuit DLC!

    >the return of the Awakening cast who now only speak English (probably sharing rangeless voice actors with their counterparts)!

    >more PC dialogue !

  284. Shiggy Diggy Doo
    Shiggy Diggy Doo
    February 7, 2016 at 9:50 am

    You’re amusing

  285. Eleven Fold
    Eleven Fold
    February 7, 2016 at 9:55 am

    He is just here to shill his youtube channel. He does not care whether the game is butchered or not. All he is trying to do is use the controversy of the game to get some people to notice him. That is why he is jumping from article to article from different sites trying to stir the pot. Its best to ignore him because he is just after shekels.

  286. FinalFight
    FinalFight
    February 7, 2016 at 10:03 am

    I’ve read this before and there are some issues.

    First, XSEED is a small localization company that licenses numerous different developers’ games for localization. You can’t compare them to a situation where a much larger company like Nintendo is licensing their own game for release elsewhere, which I’m sure was considered during production.

    Second, that post was first made in regards to Atelier Ayesha, where the proposed situation in fact had absolutely nothing to do with it. Ayesha’s Japanese audio was removed because it was the first Atelier game to be localized by Koei Tecmo, and they didn’t keep it in because they didn’t realize how much people wanted it. After hearing the fans’ outcry, they went out of their way to assure everyone that the next game (Eschatology) would have dual audio, and they even added the Japanese voices back into the Vita port, Atelier Ayesha Plus.

    Third, VA contracts restricting usage to Japan only is something that is incredibly uncommon, especially in regards to RPGs. Think of every game you’ve played with dual audio; if those contracts existed like that, the dual audio would have been impossible.

    If Renka’s song was the actual issue, there’s still the issue that “remove all Japanese audio” was apparently the best solution they could think of.

    And for what it’s worth, Ayesha’s English dub was way better than Fates’s.

  287. Samuel Nathan
    Samuel Nathan
    February 7, 2016 at 10:10 am

    I may be wrong but couldn’t it mean Nintendo didn’t pony up some extra money when the contract was initially signed perhaps thinking Western fans don’t care about Japanese audio. How else can other smaller publishers can do dual audio?

  288. Samuel Nathan
    Samuel Nathan
    February 7, 2016 at 10:12 am

    But we need many more victories on the uncensored Japanese games front. I can’t wait for the day Senran Kagura lands on Steam.

  289. Daryl Corey
    Daryl Corey
    February 7, 2016 at 10:13 am

    just another nail in the coffin of what was once a great game fuck nintendo now they are just being cheap and not wanting to pay the Japanese voice actors

  290. Neojames82
    Neojames82
    February 7, 2016 at 10:49 am

    Well I’ll be honest, I don’t really respect his opinions either. But he can say what he wants, but I and other have the right to call out on his stuff if I think it is full of shit, and I do.

  291. djluke_1993
    djluke_1993
    February 7, 2016 at 10:53 am

    You have other things to worry about yet you keep coming back and Jeep replying to other pretty much straight away. Guess that worrying business of yours mustn’t be too important then.

  292. djluke_1993
    djluke_1993
    February 7, 2016 at 10:56 am

    Yep just like my comment before goes. That worrying business of yours mustn’t be to important.

  293. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    February 7, 2016 at 11:13 am

    Once again, its not always something money can solve. Thats the whole reason I linked it

    Obviously Awakening and Fates dont have identical voice casts and the fact that they got it for Awakening works AGAINST you tin foil hatters, not for you. It shows theyd get it if they could

  294. chaoguy
    chaoguy
    February 7, 2016 at 11:13 am

    There was a screencap from some forum/message board, accusing NOA having done exactly that (or poor/next to no advertising) with some of the EarthBound games killing the franchise in the west (as far as the main stream was concerned). Allegedly so they could focus on safer titles (mario, zelda, shovelware, and kids games).
    Can anyone else verify?

  295. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 11:57 am

    “Being right is infinitely more valuable than being liked by your ilk I can assure you”
    “Implying that I care”
    Coming from the guy who had a mental breakdown and is still telling himself he has a better life than others.

  296. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 12:01 pm

    “Being right is infinitely more valuable than being liked by your ilk I can assure you”
    “Implying that I care”
    Coming from the guy who had a mental breakdown and wrote two walls of text to say he has a better life than others. The projecting was pretty strong on these ones.

  297. chaoguy
    chaoguy
    February 7, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    Sorry to tag onto the top comment, but posting this every time it’s brought up.
    Though if you don’t want to import, or you can’t read it, show other Nintendo games you have to show you are a regular consumer and not a one off customer.
    Also look into “Torrential Downpour” on Twitter.

  298. Go D. Usopp
    Go D. Usopp
    February 7, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    Still flattering that you’re this obsessed with me. Unfortunately for you I don’t swing that way, and also have standards

  299. Antoinant
    Antoinant
    February 7, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    “I will continue to act like a tough guy but I still fear that my gf and friends will ditch me for my opinions and my weeb tastes”

  300. Ken-Oh
    Ken-Oh
    February 7, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    And what about the memes?

  301. wererat42
    wererat42
    February 7, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    Nintendo doesn’t really care about the reason. If FE:Fates sells poorly in NA it will probably be the last FE game we see. Not too worried about it though since the people complaining are probably the minority and others are happy to have a solid SRPG with or without waifus.

  302. Glittering Crux
    Glittering Crux
    February 7, 2016 at 4:13 pm

    Shhhh. People here don’t like being sensible and just want a hug box.

  303. snugdarkly
    snugdarkly
    February 7, 2016 at 9:12 pm

    Answer the question.

  304. snugdarkly
    snugdarkly
    February 7, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    Well at least you admitted the fanboy stuff. Corporations aren’t your friends.

  305. Chase Moran
    Chase Moran
    February 7, 2016 at 11:46 pm

    It’d be hard to verify that as it was way back in ’95 when we got Mother 2 as Earthbound. Back then, advertising wasn’t much of a thing, and safe titles were the only thing that was actually guaranteed to sell at least somewhat decently. Advertisements only went out to games like Mario and Zelda anyways because no other game would make back the money. The market was way different, and most games didn’t get advertisements because most couldn’t afford it.

  306. Dawn Blast
    Dawn Blast
    February 8, 2016 at 12:56 am

    ….Whelp. Dropped.

  307. Thanatos2k
    Thanatos2k
    February 8, 2016 at 2:45 am

    I don’t care about dual audio, but this game is a lost cause at this point.

  308. Brandon Wolfley
    Brandon Wolfley
    February 8, 2016 at 4:37 am

    You lost me at dubbed sin… actually you lost me when you chopped the game into three parts, but you really lost me at dubbed singing.

  309. rBeowulf
    rBeowulf
    February 8, 2016 at 4:55 am

    They’re really trying hard to keep me from buying it, aren’t they?

    I’m not even mad anymore. I’m impressed.

  310. bateruchan
    bateruchan
    February 8, 2016 at 5:14 am

    i’m well aware. that said, not all corporations are your enemy, either, comrade

  311. Hirasugi
    Hirasugi
    February 8, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    I’m in the same boat.
    I hate the free pass Nintendo gets for making the same game over and over for the last 30 something years…
    I hate that they treat their fanbase like children…
    I hate that they don’t understand Youtube and fair use
    I hate how they’ve completely abused the Metroid series
    I hate their “localization” efforts
    I hate the online infrastructure of their consoles
    I hate their “closed garden” approach to everything
    I hate that Intelligent Systems is under them
    I hate Nintendo.

    I’m at the point where I almost give Micro$oft more credit than Nintendo (which is a crying shame).

    If Nintendo wasn’t holding Fire Emblem, Advanced Wars, Metroid, and Bayonetta hostage I would have dumped then eons ago…

  312. ivanchu77
    ivanchu77
    February 8, 2016 at 2:37 pm

    NOA is cancer

  313. snugdarkly
    snugdarkly
    February 9, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    It’s too early to be calling me comrade. Wait at least ten more years.

  314. Yamato
    Yamato
    February 10, 2016 at 6:35 am

    So Felicia’s voice is the absolute worst, I just can’t fit that voice to her face, totally disappointed that dual audio isn’t an option.

  315. Thomas
    Thomas
    February 12, 2016 at 3:19 pm

    So why aren’t the memes and memers purged from the treehouse yet?

  316. kliskur
    kliskur
    February 12, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    Might as well change Hoshido nation to Texas or Iowa…

    Sorry Nintendo but I’m not going to buy the game. Maybe I’ll get a second hand copy but you’re will not get my money.

    I hope Fire Emblem burns to the ground, bankrupt, revived as a new series and localized bt 8-4 or Xseed..

  317. MerriGoRound
    MerriGoRound
    February 29, 2016 at 4:31 am

    SE comes with three actually. All SE owners can play Revelations right off the bat with no download required (other than the initial download; similar to PS3’s downloading when you pop in a new game).