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Final Fantasy XV Director: Having An All-Male Cast Makes the Game Feel “More Approachable”

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In an industry that is increasingly more concerned with gender representation in video games, for better or for worse, Final Fantasy XV director Hajime Tabata has spoken his mind in regards to the game’s all-male cast.

As we’ve known, the core experience of Final Fantasy XV is meant to come off as a “road movie,” which Tabata has likened more to a journey of friends. When speaking with GameSpot on the subject of the game featuring a male-only playable cast, Tabata responded:

“Speaking honestly, an all-male party feels almost more approachable for players. Even the presence of one female in the group will change their behaviour, so that they’ll act differently. So to give the most natural feeling, to make them feel sincere and honest, having them all the same gender made sense in that way.”

Tabata goes further into this, describing the overall perception of story surrounding the cast as a “boys will be boys” theme. Will this mean we’ll be seeing shenanigans on the level of The Hangover? Probably not. “It was the story we wanted to tell and what we wanted to show players,” said Tabata.

“The world might be ready to see the curtain lifted on what boys do when girls aren’t around, when they come out of the tent all prim and proper,” said Tabata. “That’s kind of the idea behind it… we think, male or female player, that everyone will feel a certain connection and bond with the four characters.”

So what do you guys think? Will having an all-male cast in a very story driven role playing game benefit the narrative? The Final Fantasy XV demo, Episode Duscae, is currently available with first-run copies of Final Fantasy Type-0 HD.

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100 comments
  1. Locjus
    Locjus
    March 26, 2015 at 8:37 pm

    The salty shitstorm will be a delight. Stay Based, Japan!

  2. Ellen J Miller
    Ellen J Miller
    March 26, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    We had FFX-2 with an all-female playable cast, so why not FFXV with an all-male playable cast? If that’s the story they want to tell, great!

  3. Jack Ripper
    Jack Ripper
    March 26, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    I will be honest. I’m actually more interested in this FFXV even after the disaster of XIII series/spinoff because of the all boys cast.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is the first time a FF series had a all boys team right? I’m interested how the story will be like.

  4. Siveon
    Siveon
    March 26, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    Final Fantasy 1. All male cast, just don’t include the White Mage.

  5. Jack Ripper
    Jack Ripper
    March 26, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    Ah I stand corrected.

    But…FF1 wasn’t a really story heavy game was it? I never played 1 or 2, so I have no idea.

  6. Kiririn51
    Kiririn51
    March 26, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    Ya blew it.

    So it wouldn’t be “approachable” if they were all female? can’t even understand what he tried to say. Approachable to who?

  7. Cy
    Cy
    March 26, 2015 at 8:43 pm

    Glad they’re not making excuses or rushing to add in a last minute female character to appease the whiners. Devs should be able to tell whatever story they want with whatever characters they want. Personally, my least favorite part of JRPG’s are the fetish bait female characters that are only there to wear skimpy clothing and have one personality trait. Too often the male characters are reduced to drooling over the girls or forced into a romance that makes no sense and distracts from the rest of the plot, which does a disservice to the characters no matter what gender.

  8. Guest
    Guest
    March 26, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    I don’t he’s saying it’s not approachable, but it’s easier to be approachable because male gamers can relate to them.

    They were probably aiming for male demographic gamers, so I think it kind of makes sense by what they’re saying.

  9. Siveon
    Siveon
    March 26, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    No, it wasn’t story heavy. For many people at that time it probably had more text than they were used to – but other than that it was pretty sparse.

    Yet the plot still didn’t make such sense when you get right down to it. Something about time travel…ugh, it hurt just to read about it.

  10. Jack Ripper
    Jack Ripper
    March 26, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    I don’t think he’s saying it’s not approachable, but it’s easier to approach because male gamers can relate better to the characters.

    If they were aiming for male demographic gamers then I think it kind of makes sense in why he would say that.

  11. Siveon
    Siveon
    March 26, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    There’s an edit button y’know.

  12. SerendipityX
    SerendipityX
    March 26, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    Uh what? I don’t think its more approachable just normal. Final Fantasy has been very approachable with mixed genders for a while now. I don’t see anything more approachable about an all male cast. Besides Square isnt particularly good with narratives anyway, I expect FFXV to be okay storywise. Nothing mindblowing.

  13. Jack Ripper
    Jack Ripper
    March 26, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    lol

    Well it is an old RPG game so I’m not surprised. I remember when I played Dragon Quest 1 and it had barely any story. I was like this is THE DQ series that everyone in Japan so highly praised about?

    Took me until the third and fourth game in the series to help me understand the hype. After the fifth game I was like, holy shit, DQ is awesome.

  14. Jack Ripper
    Jack Ripper
    March 26, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    I know, I pressed the delete button by accident. x(

  15. Kiririn51
    Kiririn51
    March 26, 2015 at 8:54 pm

    That’s so dumb, why apply such a broad term if you’re only referring to a specific demographic? is he implying only males play Final Fantasy? holy fuck.

    I liked the concept at first but if the ideas behind it are so stupid then I think I’ll just pass on this one.

  16. Jack Ripper
    Jack Ripper
    March 26, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    Haha, I don’t doubt that more than just males play FF series. Plenty of girls love the series too.

    We will have to see how the story plays out to judge what he’s aiming for. Personally, I’m just excited for any FF as long as it’s REALLY different from FFXIII and the all boys cast is a strong indicator of that.

    Although the names and stuff still bugs the hell out of me.

  17. vileBrenman
    vileBrenman
    March 26, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    I’m fine with an all male cast especially after what they pulled with Sexual Fantasy 13 lightning returns.
    Like wtf lightning is supposed to be a strong female lead but then they go ahead and let players dress her up in bondage gear .NOW that is pandering to horny fans.

  18. Billy Bob
    Billy Bob
    March 26, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    It is not just male gamers, there is not a small number of female fans that prefer male characters.

    Look at shows such as Supernatural whose fanbase and buying market are mostly female and the lack of recurring female characters is because of that or boybands.

    The appearance of Tidus and the protag of 12 was motivated by what female japanese girls like in guys.

  19. vileBrenman
    vileBrenman
    March 26, 2015 at 9:11 pm

    I feel like no recent FF will ever top x-2 in terms of gameplay especially the international/ HD version that added the monster raising system and new dress spheres

  20. Narmy
    Narmy
    March 26, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    I think the male demographic would rather there be some females in the cast as well. Personally as a male I am very disappointed by the cast of XV, they look wholly uninteresting to me. With those androgynous character designs it seems more like they’re aiming for the fujoshi demographic.

  21. dsadsada
    dsadsada
    March 26, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    I don’t know about “approachable” but everything else he said after makes perfect sense to me. Rather than approachable, perhaps “natural and thus more relatable” would have been better.

    Perhaps that’s what he meant by approachable as well. Not so much approachable for a specific demographic, but approachable in the sense that the stories and characters come out better and are thus easier to get drawn into.

  22. Sylveria Shini
    Sylveria Shini
    March 26, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    I don’t see how it makes it more approachable… Every FF game up till now has had at least 1 female in the party and they’ve done alright for it.

    I don’t like that the cast is all male, but I’m certainly not turned off enough to throw a fit and/or not buy it as a result.

  23. dsadsada
    dsadsada
    March 26, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    Since when haven’t they been? Even Gundam, a show about giant robots blowing everything up, attracts a large female fanbase because of the character designs these days.

  24. dsadsada
    dsadsada
    March 26, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    “Will this mean we’ll be seeing shenanigans on the level of The Hangover? Probably not.”

    I’ve never been a big fan of the FF games but if it does, I will absolutely get this game.

  25. Ritchet
    Ritchet
    March 26, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    To be fair Prompto (AKA Lucky Joey) might as well be a female considering his behavior.

  26. Psichaos
    Psichaos
    March 26, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    I don’t know if looking like a j-rock boy band would be “approachable” or even relatable per-se, at least by western culture standards, but given that the FF13 series main protagonist was female and we had three games with her, the boy band will probably be fresh step.

  27. Krysanthia
    Krysanthia
    March 26, 2015 at 10:51 pm

    Nothing wrong with a strong woman being sexual, that’s ridiculous. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

  28. Krysanthia
    Krysanthia
    March 26, 2015 at 10:51 pm

    A man acting feminine doesn’t make him in anyway female.

  29. Krysanthia
    Krysanthia
    March 26, 2015 at 10:53 pm

    Well to be fair, X-2 was a spin-off, I agree that they should use the characters they want to though, regardless of what gender they are.
    It just feels weird(to me) for a mainline FF to lack women.

  30. Fenrir7
    Fenrir7
    March 26, 2015 at 11:48 pm

    I’m glad Square is doing what they want, regardless of the inevitable sjw butthurt.

  31. NathanEH
    NathanEH
    March 27, 2015 at 12:02 am

    The fact that is an issue really ticks me off, so I apologize in advance for the tone of this post.

    For those who aren’t hardcore fans, here’s how this has gone down in the series past:

    Final Fantasy – you make your own party, few classes visibly “gendered”.
    Final Fantasy II – Maria.
    Final Fantasy III – let you decide the sexes of the entire party.
    Final Fantasy IV – Rydia, Rosa and Porom.
    Final Fantasy V – Lenna, Faris and Krile.
    Final Fantasy VI – Terra, Celes, Relm and possibly Gogo.
    Final Fantasy VII – Tifa, Yuffie and Aerith.
    Final Fantasy VIII – Quistis, Rinoa and Selphie.
    Final Fantasy IX – Garnet, Eiko and possibly Quina.
    Final Fantasy X – Yuna, Rikku and Lulu.
    Final Fantasy X-2 – Yuna, Rikku and Paine. An all-female cast.
    Final Fantasy XI – the players create any character they want.
    Final Fantasy XII – Penalo, Fran and Ashe.
    Final Fantasy XIII – Lightning, Vanille and Fang.
    Final Fantasy XIV – the players create any character they want.

    And finally here we are:
    Final Fantasy XV – all-male cast.
    It took fifteen Final Fantasy titles.

    What misogyny. This proves that Square hates women, having historically featured so few memorable females across this +30 year franchise. This is Assassin’s Creed Unity all over again. No female characters. Ubisoft hates women. All we got was Lucy, Rebecca, Rosa, Aveline, Anne Bonny, Mary Read, etc..

    Every Final Fantasy title has had amazing females in the party up until this point, and that’s not going to magically change just because this one game out of fifteen has an all-male playable party. Grow up and figure out that people tell the stories they want to tell and in this particular case it was decided that the story would turn out stronger if the four leads were men.

    What Tabata meant by “approachable” is in regards to this one game. He didn’t mean the players, he meant the characters. Noctis was created first and a party of friends was needed to support him. In a game like this one where they’ve striven to create dynamic and believable characters, having a girl in the party changes everything about how they need to react. During the creation process It was decided that this dynamic wasn’t good for them so the rest of the party was made men. This is also the reason it’s suddenly an issue whereas it certainly wasn’t in the past.

    People asking “why then isn’t it an entirely female party” are an issue as well. That’s creating the exact same “problem” you are trying to propose an answer too. The answer to the question though, is because Nomura/Tabata/whomever else said no, and it’s their characters, their story, their game, and their call. Not mine, yours, or anyone else’s. It’s as simple as that.

    Tabata is trying to find an answer nicer than that but he honestly shouldn’t bother. People who are unhappy with this and demand that be changed will not be satiated until the game is either changed or cancelled. Their mind is made up and nothing will stop them now but a swift kick in the ass. The longer you try to be diplomatic with these people the louder they’re going to get, see, again, Ubisoft and Assassin’s Creed Unity.

    We already know that kick-ass women exist in the world of Final Fantasy XV. Cindy is awesome. Stella is still out there somewhere. Luna is playing a big part, and there’s still a dark haired woman we know nothing about but her importance to the story is heavy enough to be included amongst the main cast in trailers and promotional materials. Square isn’t leaving women out of the game, and the decisions they’ve made were not made out of spite or hatred. Any number of reasons could have gone into this decision, and anger is an inappropriate response.

  32. SnugRailgun
    SnugRailgun
    March 27, 2015 at 12:02 am

    It would be less approachable and be bad for sales, not to mention all the bad pr from having female characters that may be too attractive. I think what he means is that a woman is harder to approach than a man, which means this game is easier to approach because it’s all men most of us can relate to. It’s also easier to be honest in the company of men than women. You can also be more harsh around a man because if you hurt his feelings he just has to man up, whereas if you hurt a woman’s feelings you’re a scumbag.

  33. SnugRailgun
    SnugRailgun
    March 27, 2015 at 12:07 am

    Buddies hanging out without a woman to compete for? Nah this sounds pretty awesome.

  34. SnugRailgun
    SnugRailgun
    March 27, 2015 at 12:08 am

    Both boys and girls are more likely to buy a game starring boys I think. That is, assuming that they’re attractive.

  35. SnugRailgun
    SnugRailgun
    March 27, 2015 at 12:10 am

    Sexiness is a superpower fool.

  36. Akumanoid
    Akumanoid
    March 27, 2015 at 12:11 am

    Watch the English translation still have tumblr pronouns.

  37. SnugRailgun
    SnugRailgun
    March 27, 2015 at 12:11 am

    Oh god that sounds awful.

  38. SnugRailgun
    SnugRailgun
    March 27, 2015 at 12:14 am

    Agreed. I’d rather play a game about buddies hanging out and kicking ass.

  39. Koroma
    Koroma
    March 27, 2015 at 12:30 am

    Dissapointed.

  40. Kiririn51
    Kiririn51
    March 27, 2015 at 12:46 am

    the fuck did i just read

  41. TheCynicalReaper
    TheCynicalReaper
    March 27, 2015 at 12:52 am

    First, allow me to explain this in context of “boys will be boys”

    To me, this isn’t about “muh [gender, feelings etc.]”; it’s a matter of being a capable writer/creator. See, in real life, a group of rowdy boys would indeed act differently around girlies. Case in point: the FFXV Demo has these guys spilling spaghetti all over because the girl who fixed their car was cute (well, Glasses and Sasuke handle it better). It’s funny and natural, yeah, but that’s expected of BOYS.

    These guys aren’t boys. They’re men. Oh, they might be aged “18” on paper but they have the physical design of men, if not at least early 20’s. Furthermore, they have taken/will take human life on a regular basis in plot and in gameplay. Let me remind you that this game’s demo is paired with Type-0, a story of students amidst a bloody and brutal war. The contrast between the casts, or rather the tones of each game, emphasizes the immaturity of the FF15 characters for the theme to be “boys will be boys”, and even if you ignore that, well…

    Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I didn’t sign up to play as four guys in arrested development. I’m fine with dorky or immature characters, but I’m not fine with playing as a group of frat boys. I can only imagine the characterization they’d have considering this theme of “boys will be boys”.

  42. SnugRailgun
    SnugRailgun
    March 27, 2015 at 12:56 am

    Any thoughts on it? If that’s your response I imagine you have a few.

  43. TheCynicalReaper
    TheCynicalReaper
    March 27, 2015 at 1:04 am

    Now for my main point of contention:
    “Even the presence of one female in the group will change their behaviour, so that they’ll act differently.”
    You, sir, are a fucking hack.

    Either this creator has written a cast so immature as to be incapable of being natural around “even one female”, or he is incapable of writing a female character into the same scenarios as male characters.

    In the former, he really has created a cast of stereotypical frat college kids and has to write with that in mind, thus pigeonholing himself to certain possibilities and making four main characters who are utterly insufferable.

    In the latter, he is a hack for being unable to create a character’s personality before their sex, or rather, to form a human being instead of an archetype. Considering most the characters of recent FF games, this makes sense. Though really, it could be both issues at play here.

    In brief: He’s telling us that the reason this game has an “all/predominantly male cast” is because he has not and cannot write human beings that can function above archetypal re/actions. This bodes fucking beautiful for the game’s writing…

  44. TheCynicalReaper
    TheCynicalReaper
    March 27, 2015 at 1:12 am

    For brevity’s sake: approachable to the next biggest demographic to make bank on.

    Check it: Do you know who are the biggest demographics to market JRPGs to? Otaku and fujoshi, aka “Lonely Waifu Lovers” and “Lonely Husbando Lovers”

    These are the two types of consumers who will latch onto a character they find attractive, that hits their niche sweet-spot, and will consume ANY merchendise related to said characters.
    __Think of Fate/Stay Night’s Saber. Iconic, largely loved, and anything with her face on it sells like hot cakes. Same goes for Dante.

    They tried this with Lightning during the FF13 saga. It failed. Miserably. Seems otaku didn’t take half as well to Lightning or her moe-moe sister as the director did.

    Now they’re trying it with handsome men who all fit typical otome (romance novels for girls, often with a harem of men) archetypes.
    Basically, this is proof-evident that FFXV will, most likely, just be the next FF13 marketing extravaganza.

  45. TheCynicalReaper
    TheCynicalReaper
    March 27, 2015 at 1:21 am

    Great article, mate. I really appreciate it.
    I’m sad, though. This has just completely disillusioned me as to the quality of story and character we’ll likely get from FFXV. I don’t mean to sound like a downer, but as a long time writer who’s actually worked damn hard on his craft, it just irritates me to see things like “So to give the most natural feeling, to make them feel sincere and honest, having them all the same gender made sense in that way” behind a major funded production.

    I mean, what kind of 9th grade nonsense is this? How many decent writers, let alone good ones, have learned to create human characters that do interact naturally between each other even though they’re of different sexes? And yet this is what we get. This is the mentality helming the characterization and narrative construction of this hugely anticipated release. It’s just…
    ___Look, I hope it’s fun. The demo was ridiculously fun once you got the hang of it, but fun gameplay and gorgeous graphics only make for a great MMO. RPGs require the third element of having a good story, and this doesn’t bode well with me.

  46. TheCynicalReaper
    TheCynicalReaper
    March 27, 2015 at 1:24 am

    Haha Well if nothing else, I’m at least glad there’s others who might be able to have fun with this.
    Better that some us feel excited and have a blast than none of us.

  47. TheCynicalReaper
    TheCynicalReaper
    March 27, 2015 at 1:28 am

    Don’t know about him, but a few points of that bugged me, Railgun-chan.

    Firstly, if the woman is a friend, there’s no barrier to friendliness and she won’t be some frail flower who can’t take a joke.

    Secondly, it might not be a good idea to carry the notion that simply because your friend is a man it’s okay to be harsh to him. Not to sound like a typical liberal wiggly-blob of cuddly cuteness here, but we are all human no matter our gender, and rough-housing isn’t the same as hurting your friend’s feelings. That’s never okay.

  48. TheCynicalReaper
    TheCynicalReaper
    March 27, 2015 at 1:32 am

    Nah, dude. Very good theory, though, and if I didn’t know Square Enix by now I’d be inclined to believe that’s the intent.

    But this is Square Enix we’re talking about, the EA of Japan.
    “Approachable” is code for “marketing scheme targeting female otaku”.

  49. Siveon
    Siveon
    March 27, 2015 at 1:33 am

    Looks less approachable to me. I mean, they all look like something from a goddamn boyband. At least with females it’ll just look like a regular (emo) band, but now I have this lame social stigma over my head, telling me to violently shun any and all traces of the dreaded boyband.

    Jokes aside, I do get this female-focused vibe when I see the cast. It weirds me out a bit.

  50. Siveon
    Siveon
    March 27, 2015 at 1:35 am

    Take Wonderwoman for example. She carries with her a goddamn rope.

    …Kinky.

  51. sanic
    sanic
    March 27, 2015 at 1:35 am

    I used to play video games with some people at work, we had a few girls join in from work, they both got mad over the banter. I can sort of get what he’s saying but the phrasing was poor.

    Man we had some great times in COD, MAG, FFXI, I miss it sometimes.

  52. dsadsada
    dsadsada
    March 27, 2015 at 1:37 am

    They’ve been targeting fujoshi since forever. I fail to see what makes this one so special other than the lack of a female character in the main party. Heck, it’d be the male otaku who are more likely to be upset.

    Besides, I’d easily be able to see that men act differently around women. I at least stop making lewd, vulgar, mean spirited, and immature jokes when women are around unless they start it first.

    It’s actually far worse now these days with sexism and whatnot being a common topic. “Is this sexist” or “will women take offense to this” keeps popping up whenever I get an idea and a woman is around. If I’m just with other men, I don’t care and say whatever stupid shit has been festering in my skull.

  53. Misogynerd
    Misogynerd
    March 27, 2015 at 2:00 am

    Women tend to love franchises with emphasis on the dynamics of two or more pretty boys. Sherlock, Supernatural, FF7, Thor, The Hobbit, Saint Seiya, Yu Yu Hakusho, Kingdom Hearts, JoJo’s Bizarre Adventures and pretty much all sports manga.

    Still, those works are pretty approachable to men, so if they can combine things men stereotypically enjoy, for example High Action, Bromance, Chivalry and Macho themes with pretty characters who can attract women and act like any male character in previously mentioned series they can make it approachable to both genders.

  54. Misogynerd
    Misogynerd
    March 27, 2015 at 2:02 am

    Yup also they make the male lead generic as fuck so you can *self insert* as them. Barf.
    That or like you mention make the girl a “Tsundere” so they can write the same scenes for the 40th time.

  55. Misogynerd
    Misogynerd
    March 27, 2015 at 2:10 am

    Going around causing shenanigans as a bunch of frat boys on a fantasy land sounds funny and cool, not sure why you’re going so butthurt over a creative decision. Rather than crossing of a checklist to appeal to marketers (They’re still doing that to some extent, I’ll admit) they’re sticking to their guns.

    Still, people speak differently to different kinds of people. I don’t speak to my mom or my younger cousins like I speak to my mother. They wanted to avoid falling into that trap.

  56. vileBrenman
    vileBrenman
    March 27, 2015 at 6:00 am

    I just liked the Idea of her being kinda manly but then they gave her all these fetish costumes to pander to horny fans

  57. Wand
    Wand
    March 27, 2015 at 6:03 am

    They have all the rights to make all-male story and characters. It’s so simple.

  58. Fred Bloss
    Fred Bloss
    March 27, 2015 at 9:04 am

    A bunch of dudes going on a road trip is a common thing, thus the lack of female main characters makes sense from a storytelling perspective.

  59. FalseTragedian
    FalseTragedian
    March 27, 2015 at 11:05 am

    White Mage was male too, as can be seen after the class upgrade when he losses his hood.

  60. FalseTragedian
    FalseTragedian
    March 27, 2015 at 11:07 am

    Is approachable because they’re all the same gender. As others have already mentioned, there is already an all female Final Fantasy.

  61. FalseTragedian
    FalseTragedian
    March 27, 2015 at 11:09 am

    Yeah, this is definitely yaoi bait, just like a lot of the female characters in the past were clearly meant to appeal to men, not women.

  62. TheCynicalReaper
    TheCynicalReaper
    March 27, 2015 at 11:13 am

    Fair enough.
    Though you should know that no woman can do/say anything to you just for making vulgar jokes in their vicinity unless it’s in the workplace. Don’t let society think that you need to self-censor for the sake of vaginal sensitivity. haha

    EDIT: Well, they can say things, but it’s easily ignored. They can also do things, but assault is assault and their ass will learn in court if they feel slapping you is the adult response to you making a crass joke with your buddies,

  63. Anonymous
    Anonymous
    March 27, 2015 at 11:26 am

    That’s nice.
    Creators more concerned with politics than their own vision are not real artists.
    The medium needs more people like him.

  64. Siveon
    Siveon
    March 27, 2015 at 12:03 pm

    Oh, right. Wait, then why are White Mages stereotypically female?

    Boggles my mind.

  65. MusouTensei
    MusouTensei
    March 27, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    That’s why japan needs to takeover gaming again.

  66. Sylveria Shini
    Sylveria Shini
    March 27, 2015 at 2:46 pm

    Oi I didn’t think about it that way. That is a rather depressing and concerning prospect if the people writing it are so inept that what you postulate is accurate.

  67. Sylveria Shini
    Sylveria Shini
    March 27, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    Guess FF13’s emphasis on a female character and the lack of KH for so long so people couldn’t get a proper yaoi fix needed to be supplemented somehow.. and here we are.

  68. Dimi Gronnings
    Dimi Gronnings
    March 27, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    I think I figured out what he meant: approachable for the creators. Considering the gender politics and culture of Japan, there’s a significant difference in telling a story for a male cast and telling one for a mixed-gender cast. Considering that the game’s tagline is “a fantasy based on reality”, it would be really strange to have women going on road trips with men and “roughing it”. This kind of story is just a lot less complicated to construct if the cast is all male. There’s none of that sexual tension that mixed-gender stories de facto include, for example.

    Thoughts?

  69. Dimi Gronnings
    Dimi Gronnings
    March 27, 2015 at 6:28 pm

    Right, I’m interpreting the word (“approachable”) as applying to the creators themselves. Japan is a very structured society, and telling a story like this–“a fantasy based on reality”, no less–with a mixed cast would have been difficult for them to do. The story’s a lot easier to approach (i.e. tackle) on their part if the PCs are all male.

  70. Zanard Bell
    Zanard Bell
    March 27, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    Hanging out with the bros is nice, butt Cidney’s ass as a sidedish just makes it all the better.

  71. Cheeb
    Cheeb
    March 27, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    I doubt it’s going to lack women. Just the main party will.

  72. Cheeb
    Cheeb
    March 27, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    I think it’s a great idea! I can’t think of any other JRPGs that have done the group of blokes thing. It’ll be an interesting change. JRPGs are hardly where the blame should be aimed when it comes to lacking female characters anyway. The Final Fantasy series has provided some of the best females in all of the industry.

  73. Dimi Gronnings
    Dimi Gronnings
    March 27, 2015 at 10:19 pm

    I understand where you’re coming from, but I think you’re forgetting this is from a Japanese company, and reflects the sensibilities of the culture.

  74. Dimi Gronnings
    Dimi Gronnings
    March 27, 2015 at 10:20 pm

    Not sure how he acts feminine …

  75. Krysanthia
    Krysanthia
    March 27, 2015 at 10:41 pm

    *shrug* I’m not the one who said he did in the first place.

  76. Krysanthia
    Krysanthia
    March 27, 2015 at 10:42 pm

    That’s what I meant.

  77. Dimi Gronnings
    Dimi Gronnings
    March 27, 2015 at 10:45 pm

    Didn’t say you were. Just expressing my non-plussed-ness.

  78. dsadsada
    dsadsada
    March 28, 2015 at 12:48 am

    It’s about not being an ass, not being afraid of repercussions.

  79. Cheeb
    Cheeb
    March 28, 2015 at 3:32 am

    If you really think about it, it’s a lot more natural than your usual band of misfits. Men and women often hang out in groups of friends.

  80. TheCynicalReaper
    TheCynicalReaper
    March 28, 2015 at 3:32 am

    Guess I misread your post, then.

  81. TheCynicalReaper
    TheCynicalReaper
    March 28, 2015 at 3:36 am

    I don’t believe that, mate. I’ll readily admit that I only just know a bit more of Japanese culture than the next guy (if that), but considering all of the other games we’ve gotten from Japan with a real-world setting that incorporates a mixed sex cast, I don’t agree it’s a matter of culture.

  82. Dimi Gronnings
    Dimi Gronnings
    March 28, 2015 at 7:05 am

    Think of it like this: it’s like asking a mediocre Western writer to create a story that reflects Japanese culture. FF’s story has not been its strong suit for a long time now. Better that they did this than tackle something they aren’t skilled enough to pull off.

  83. Sergio Nacher Fernández
    Sergio Nacher Fernández
    March 28, 2015 at 9:07 am

    If they think they can tell the story better with an all-male cast, then more power to them. Many times have game plots been ruined by a nebulous desire to be ‘diverse’. If the gameplay is fun and the story is interesting, that’s all that matters, no matter how the cast is.

  84. TheCynicalReaper
    TheCynicalReaper
    March 28, 2015 at 11:40 am

    That…actually makes sense in that light.
    Huh. Nice going, mate.

  85. Max Headroom
    Max Headroom
    March 28, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    Cue SJW screaming.

  86. Max Headroom
    Max Headroom
    March 28, 2015 at 12:19 pm

    “Women tend to love franchises with emphasis on the dynamics of two or more pretty boys.”

    This is why we don’t take female tastes seriously.

  87. Max Headroom
    Max Headroom
    March 28, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    “Personally, my least favorite part of JRPG’s are the fetish bait female characters that are only there to wear skimpy clothing and have one personality trait.”

    Oh, really? So you don’t have a problem with impossibly attractive, perfect male specimens whose entire personalities and appearenses are solely designed to attract shallow women?

    Y’know – like every single male protagonist in a Final Fantasy game? (Or most Japanese games, for that matter?)

  88. Max Headroom
    Max Headroom
    March 28, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    “Every Final Fantasy title has had amazing females in the party up until this point,”

    If by “amazing”, you of course mean “the usual anime-shit”.

  89. Max Headroom
    Max Headroom
    March 28, 2015 at 12:29 pm

    I have so very, very little respect for how women base their entire interest in a show around how much they want to fuck the protagonists.

    Why the fuck do they wonder why we don’t take them seriously, again?

  90. Max Headroom
    Max Headroom
    March 28, 2015 at 12:30 pm

    Exactly.

  91. Max Headroom
    Max Headroom
    March 28, 2015 at 12:34 pm

    “ase in point: the FFXV Demo has these guys spilling spaghetti all over because the girl who fixed their car was cute [-]. It’s funny and natural, yeah, but that’s expected of BOYS.”

    Exactly. It would have been “cute” if they were 12. Beyond that, it makes anyone who’s not a complete fuckwit want to punch them in the face.

  92. Max Headroom
    Max Headroom
    March 28, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    “Not sure how he acts feminine …”

    Are you in some way vision-impaired, then?

  93. chaoguy
    chaoguy
    March 28, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    Like
    Misogynerd
    says below, it might be something to bait them with pretty boys. Or they’ve gone to the other extreme and said “screw it, let’s not put women in the main cast, we’ll only get bitched at by westerners”.

  94. NathanEH
    NathanEH
    March 28, 2015 at 11:17 pm

    Final Fantasy VII and up, I absolutely agree. Tifa, Quistis, Yuna? Complete anime stereotypes. Little development, little history, little personality.

    VI and below, nope.
    Celes was pretty damn interesting, as was Faris. Fantastic character arcs. I know of plenty modern and highly praised RPG’s that don’t give party members an ounce of that character development.

  95. Michael Richardson
    Michael Richardson
    March 30, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    I don’t care for the lack of playable female characters, but it makes sense from a storytelling perspective given the context of the story.

  96. SnugRailgun
    SnugRailgun
    April 2, 2015 at 10:47 pm

    I don’t think there should be any blame to begin with. So what if there’s more of one than the other?

  97. SnugRailgun
    SnugRailgun
    April 2, 2015 at 10:47 pm

    Wonder Woman is covering up compliments of Isl–I mean feminism.

  98. SnugRailgun
    SnugRailgun
    April 2, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    Generally speaking women don’t take jokes half as well as men. I’m not saying there aren’t exceptions, but I also haven’t met any personally. Around a woman I just can’t help but hold back but around a man? Well if my thoughts are offensive he’ll just have to deal with it now won’t he?

  99. Fnd Sam
    Fnd Sam
    August 16, 2016 at 5:12 am

    Well you have to understand the context behind the story. Tabata intends to write something akin to the Yakuza (which are predominantly men), and the theme is brotherhood. But does not including female cast means they’re incapable of writing good female characters? Watch Kingsglaive and you’ll see how strong Lunafreya is even without swords or magic. A well written female character does not have to be in the party to be significant.

    If you look at past FFs, you can see the past dynamics between the male and female characters. In FFIV Kain and Cecil fought to win Rosa’s love, Edge is trying hard to win Rydia’s affection. In FFV showed a subtle attraction towards Faris. FFVI Celes and Locke were in love with each other. in FFVII you can go on a date with either Aerith, Tifa or Yuffie – Cloud wanted Tifa’s attention as a child and made a promise with her, later as an adult Cloud developed feelings for Aerith. FFVIII there were a lot of flirtings going on. FFIX Zidane is a womanizer, but later fell in love with Garnet – halfway through the game he was moping when separated from her. In FFX there was a scene where Yuna, Rikku and Lulu separate themselves from the boys to share a secret, Yuna shared a romantic moment with Tidus, Lulu got married with fellow party member; Waka.

    Those dynamics aren’t a bad thing, and most of the party members of the previous FFs are formed between strangers; people they met along the way (a few of them are childhood friends. I think having an all-male cast who are childhood friends is a fresh start? It’s important to note that Noctis is probably shy around girls that he’s more comfortable hanging out with dudes.