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Bandai Namco Producer: Don’t Expect Xenosaga HD by Petition, I’ll Find Another Way

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Bandai Namco producer Katsuhiro Harada teased fans of the possibility for a Xenosaga HD collection, only to say the publisher will make the HD collection real if “tens of thousands” of fans make it known that they’ll buy it.

Fans did create a campaign for the HD collection, as well as a petition, which only broke 10,000 signatures. This seems to not have been enough to secure funding within Bandai Namco for the HD collection to happen, according to a new post from Harada-san.

A while back, triggered by the overseas version of Project X zone, I have conducted a research and calculated if there is a business chance for Xenosaga HD remaster.

It was a very simple research at that time. Yet, research does cost money.

And at that time, I was not able to seek business chance. In other words, I was not able to find the necessary market size that will pay for the development fee needed to create the HD remaster.

So it seems like there may not have been enough fans demanding for a Xenosaga HD collection, as unfortunate as it sounds. “Back then, the reactions on SNS and unique users were rather few in number. It may be that I didn’t work hard enough,” Harada said.

Harada talks up a Kickstarter for the collection. “Measures such as kickstarters are as of last resort, and at any rate we will not have a chance of winning as it stands now. It will not gather people by crowdfunding without creating some kind of big movement to support it,” said Harada.

“To be honest, I was about to give up and I’m troubled,” lamented Harada-san. He got more specific when it comes to just exactly how many fans he needs to make the HD collection happen.

“What I need, are the voices from many fans,” said Harada. “This is a little different from having ‘messages sent every day from the same person.’ Although I do understand the deep love for the game, more than that, the cheers from as many “unique users” as possible is what is needed.”

In closing, Harada seemed to cite people making duplicate accounts yet again, saying “A miracle would happen if several tens of thousands are gathered at the end. Of course, involvement from the company is needed for this but…”

Before you get all upset and downtrodden, there is some hope with his message. Harada did post this update with the following messages:

“To Xenosaga Fan. About HD collection: I don’t expect miracle by Petition any more. I’ll find another way!! Thanks.”

So there you have it – it’s not exactly promising, but we at least know that Harada is seemingly trying everything in his power to make the Xenosaga HD Collection happen.

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54 comments
  1. 100% noob
    100% noob
    July 6, 2015 at 7:59 am

    Darn and I was hoping for it to be an announcement of a release soon or a later, also quite frankly I think they should try porting it to multiple platforms to try to get it spread out more, also if they are doing this with xenosaga, what about xenogears as well?

  2. NuclearCherries
    NuclearCherries
    July 6, 2015 at 8:06 am

    I just want to see Xenosaga I and III released in Europe. Is that too much to ask?

  3. Gillman
    Gillman
    July 6, 2015 at 8:38 am

    Good luck. From what I understand (old, unsourced rumors), there is super bad blood between the dev team and Square on Gears. While that game directly ties into the end of Saga it also had that little section ripped off the credits.

  4. Kiryu
    Kiryu
    July 6, 2015 at 8:47 am

    Such a cool guy Harada san,love his dedication to fans and gaming.

  5. Evropi
    Evropi
    July 6, 2015 at 9:06 am

    A simple HD re-release wouldn’t do. They would really have to fix a lot of issues with the game. Nintendo’s re-releases of classic Zeldas feature a lot of subtle gameplay mechanics changes to otherwise fantastic games. But Xenosaga (at least episodes I and II) was no Ocarina of Time. Mr Harada strikes me as someone who really does care about using this opportunity to give a definitive version of the games — which is why I imagine he thinks it will be so costly.

  6. Sebastian Mikulec
    Sebastian Mikulec
    July 6, 2015 at 9:07 am

    10,113 != tens of thousands

    Tens of thousands means at least 20,000

  7. landlock
    landlock
    July 6, 2015 at 9:39 am

    It’s actually pretty interesting that Nintendo still loan Monolith out to NB for Project X Zone.

    That said if the old developers are going to be involved then it has to be on the 3DS/WiiU. Otherwise new developers are going to be needed.

  8. MusouTensei
    MusouTensei
    July 6, 2015 at 9:42 am

    I don’t even need a HD collection if it’s not possible, just bring the 3 games to PSN, that would already makes me happy and cost me much less than US importing Xenosaga III alone.
    And while we’re at it, also bring .hack G.U. Trilogy to PSN, and the 1st 4 games as well.

  9. Ippiki Okami
    Ippiki Okami
    July 6, 2015 at 9:43 am

    I know Square cut funding for Xenogears and reallocated that funding to Final Fantasy VIII instead. Which is one of the reasons why the 2nd disc was mostly dialogue.

  10. Narmy
    Narmy
    July 6, 2015 at 9:45 am

    I imagine it would be costly because of the mixture of real-time 3D and pre-rendered video they use for the cutscenes. They can increase the resolution and textures for the real-time 3D, but I don’t know what they can do about the pre-rendered videos. They can’t just blow up the resolution of those, since it will be very noticeable as the quality shifts back and forth, so they may have to remake the scenes in real-time.

  11. Brandon Orselli
    Brandon Orselli
    July 6, 2015 at 9:45 am

    You’re right – let me clean up that wording a bit.

  12. OverlordZetta
    OverlordZetta
    July 6, 2015 at 9:53 am

    Even just making HD versions of the games would probably be at least somewhat costly.

  13. MaidKillua
    MaidKillua
    July 6, 2015 at 10:37 am

    I really wanna see it happen just because we only even got 1 of them in Europe to begin with and it wasn’t even the first one if I remember correctly. Which makes absolutely no sense

  14. Carl B.
    Carl B.
    July 6, 2015 at 10:40 am

    I never even knew such a petition existed, or else I would have signed it.

  15. Erick Martin
    Erick Martin
    July 6, 2015 at 10:41 am

    Bamco : “One day I will become like Atlus, localize every released game outside Japan”

  16. gusroar
    gusroar
    July 6, 2015 at 11:07 am

    If they do I hope they bring it to PC like they’re doing with Tales of Zestiria.

  17. tehhead
    tehhead
    July 6, 2015 at 11:32 am

    Just put it on PSN be done with it
    No need for HD rerelease, just port it straight to PS3 & put it on PSN ps2 classic
    FYI EP 2 & 3 is available on PS2 classic for region 1

    Why don’t you guys buy that? “Because we want HD collection, not crappy old functional port of it”

  18. Hagane-Cosplay.tumblr.com
    Hagane-Cosplay.tumblr.com
    July 6, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    Pretty sure 3 got released? EDIT: No, seems you’re right. Must have been cancelled, as I remember it being announced.

    That being said, 1 didn’t get released – so it was kinda daft they released the others at all, what with it being an RPG series.

    Consequently I would buy an HD collection, because I too never got the chance to play the first one.

  19. Hagane-Cosplay.tumblr.com
    Hagane-Cosplay.tumblr.com
    July 6, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    Xenosaga 1 was never released in the EU.

    There are probably others who, like me, saw the series and really wanted to buy it, but never had the opportunity.

  20. NuclearCherries
    NuclearCherries
    July 6, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    What they did in Europe was bundle Xenosaga II with a disc containing the cutscenes from Xenosaga I. It lasted 6 hours.

    It was pretty silly, and they should have just released Xenosaga I over here. We also didn’t get Xenogears but we did get Xenoblade before America, which is odd.

  21. Evropi
    Evropi
    July 6, 2015 at 3:22 pm

    Because the games aren’t great. The combat system of the second episode in particular is extremely unsatisfying. Fans want a limited reimagining, with gameplay tweaks and roughly the same plotline. That’s why a straight port won’t suffice.

  22. Cred
    Cred
    July 6, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    those zelda re releases butcher a lot of the game’s appeal too though

    it isn’t so simple

  23. Cred
    Cred
    July 6, 2015 at 4:23 pm

    Or they could just you know do a kickstarter like everyone else, get some money, put the fans on viral marketing duty and gauge the demand for the game and then if it does succeed the funding is a safe investment on their part

  24. Evropi
    Evropi
    July 6, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    Like doubling the speed of the boring, lifeless sailing in The Wind Waker HD? Or having a much more efficient menu system in Ocarina of Time? Please clarify exactly where the appeal was ‘butchered’ for you, because I find the gameplay tweaks overwhelmingly positive.

  25. Lordlundar
    Lordlundar
    July 6, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    Not so odd, just a case of the times. When Xenogears was released the NA market for JRPGs was not great and in Europe it was practically nonexistant. Combined with the fact that Xenogears was underfunded and not heavily marketed (also the multi languange support was overwhelming) and avoiding the EU market was the best choice.

    Xenoblade however came out as a LOT of developers and publishers were eyeballing the EU market as a MUCH more prominent market than NA (which have shifted to a more local consumption of titles). As such, the EU market was first and the NA release almost never happened.

  26. 2501
    2501
    July 6, 2015 at 4:50 pm

    Is the Xenosaga series actually good? l don’t think any of the games where available in my region. I heard Tetsuya Takahashi is not that proud of them.

  27. icedearthaholic
    icedearthaholic
    July 6, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    I’ll put it in a better perspective, NoA is ****ing stupid at times.

  28. Steven Waugh
    Steven Waugh
    July 6, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    has he seen the power of kickstarters why not just put it up there as a test and if he get more make a full on ps3 remaster of it and fix what was wrong in the game

  29. Narmy
    Narmy
    July 6, 2015 at 7:57 pm

    The original PS2 games are censored, and the only way to get them uncensored is a re-release.

  30. Fenrir007
    Fenrir007
    July 6, 2015 at 8:05 pm

    I’d rather get a Xenogears remake with the full content that was supposed to be there.

    Still, I think a Xenosaga HD would fare well on Kickstarter.

  31. Thanatos2k
    Thanatos2k
    July 6, 2015 at 10:25 pm

    I’m fine without it. Make new games. Stop porting old ones.

  32. Thanatos2k
    Thanatos2k
    July 6, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    They seriously only released the worst one? How awful.

  33. Thanatos2k
    Thanatos2k
    July 6, 2015 at 10:27 pm

    Why not a full on Xenogears remake then? I’d think I’d want that a LOT more….

  34. Hasette
    Hasette
    July 6, 2015 at 10:36 pm

    I hope this still become a reality :<

  35. Julian Hardaway
    Julian Hardaway
    July 7, 2015 at 12:25 am

    this is only good if they localize the uncensored japanese version with the blood.

  36. Evropi
    Evropi
    July 7, 2015 at 6:38 am

    Because that raises the budget to astronomical levels. Xenogears (and Xenosaga, really) is obscure enough to not warrant a full remake from a business point of view. Moreover, the author would probably rather work on a new IP instead.

  37. NaokiKashima
    NaokiKashima
    July 7, 2015 at 8:15 am

    I honestly like 2 more than 1. Once you understand how ridiculously you can exploit elemental weaknesses, the game becomes an absolute blast. The story was weak, but the gameplay was top notch.

  38. NaokiKashima
    NaokiKashima
    July 7, 2015 at 8:18 am

    Yeah, to think that Reggie has so much experience in marketing, yet completely fails to observe demographics over here…

  39. NaokiKashima
    NaokiKashima
    July 7, 2015 at 8:21 am

    I just want to bring up, did you ever experiment with elemental weaknesses? That’s really where the combat in 2 was at. Once you understand how it works in conjunction with the stock, bonus multiplier, boost, and air/down systems, you can do absolutely ridiculous things like knocking a boss into the air and destroying it before it gets a chance to exit the combo. It’s ridiculously satisfying.

  40. Evropi
    Evropi
    July 7, 2015 at 9:08 am

    Hmm, perhaps I should have put more thought into it. Perhaps it’s the same reason I am not a huge fan of Shin Megami Tensei IV’s combat system (the only mainline SMT I have played). You can easily crush bosses as long as your attributes are fined-tuned to fight those bosses specifically. I guess 2 was going for the same sort of system. Admittedly, I’m not a heavy RPG guy (I never play RPG’s for the gameplay), I will just grind if I can’t beat a certain boss because I always get struck by analysis paralysis if I think about it too hard.

  41. Thanatos2k
    Thanatos2k
    July 7, 2015 at 10:53 am

    What? The combat system was pretty awful.

  42. Thanatos2k
    Thanatos2k
    July 7, 2015 at 10:54 am

    A Xenosaga remake is THREE games. I think a remake of one requires a smaller budget.

  43. Samantha Lienhard
    Samantha Lienhard
    July 7, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    I’ve never played the Xenosaga games, and an HD collection would be the perfect way to get into the series!

  44. NaokiKashima
    NaokiKashima
    July 7, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    It truly wasn’t, though! It just does a terrible job of explaining itself. Seriously, if you know what you’re doing, you can do ridiculous things like knocking bosses into the air and demolishing them before they get a chance to land. The game doesn’t inform you that enemies have ludicrous elemental weaknesses which are all the more exploitable thanks to the elemental chain bonuses. It is a RIDICULOUS amount of fun — once you fully comprehend all facets of the battle system.

    Edit: Ah! Found this video which illustrates what I’m talking about. It’s just a random battle, but the same strategy applies to bosses too, of course:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3il9WBjRb8I

  45. NaokiKashima
    NaokiKashima
    July 7, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    Well, not sure if you recall, but with XS2, anyone can learn all the elemental sword abilities, so you don’t have to actually fine-tune anyone. The only time it gets hairy is when you’re using a character that has an innate elemental ability in their combo, like Ziggy having Fire or I think Jin had Ice or something along those lines. The idea is that you stock everyone up, cast whatever elemental sword the enemy is weakest to on everyone, knock the enemy up in the air and boost your way through as many turns as you can get, or until the elemental swords wear off. Here’s a video (I haven’t listened to it, but the guy illustrates just how to fully utilize the game’s systems): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3il9WBjRb8I

  46. revengerofdeath
    revengerofdeath
    November 3, 2015 at 7:56 am

    Any news about the other way?????

  47. Iftekhar Ahmed
    Iftekhar Ahmed
    May 4, 2016 at 6:36 am

    Thing is, if Nintendo of America dubbed Xenoblade Chronicles, we wouldn’t have gotten those wonderful British accents!

  48. Iftekhar Ahmed
    Iftekhar Ahmed
    May 4, 2016 at 6:38 am

    It’s not out of the question for a Xenosaga HD remaster collection to be a Nintendo NX launch title.

  49. landlock
    landlock
    May 5, 2016 at 2:07 am

    It’s not impossible but unlikely.

  50. Iftekhar Ahmed
    Iftekhar Ahmed
    May 5, 2016 at 2:30 am

    Bit of a 50/50 scenario to be honest. KOS MOS was heavily utilized into the main story of Project X Zone 2 out of positive reception and popularity for her appearance in the first game, so it’s not out of the question in order to make her relevant again.

  51. JP
    JP
    August 1, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    This is why I hang on to my old systems and games and keep them in excellent condition.
    You know what though? I’ll bet if they released the trilogy as a digital download on the PS4 Network, they’d see if it’s popular enough AND make some money to go toward the HD remaster.
    Look what a Steam release did for Valkyria Chronicles. BAM. Suddenly the game is back on the map.
    The Xenosaga Trilogy is a fantastic JRPG series. Bandai Namco just needs to believe in their own titles a little more.

  52. John Fletcher
    John Fletcher
    February 25, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    same here, even though I just really found these 3 games last night watching a YT collection video cause I spent most of the PS2 era playing FF XI on my PC lol…. wondered what else I missed out on besides the games I got recently for PS2. I dont’ have nintendo consoles and thought XenoBlade was the series…

  53. Kurt M Potter
    Kurt M Potter
    June 8, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    i want a full remake with all 6 games that were supposed to be made. not stopping halfway through