SNK Heroines: Tag Team Frenzy Will Not Be Censored

When SNK Corporation announced SNK Heroines: Tag Team Frenzy, many fans (including myself) were overjoyed. However, when a comparison between the Japanese and English trailers revealed some costumes weren’t shown, some were concerned the game’s western release could be censored. Now, publisher NIS America has commented on the issue.

“The content released globally will contain the same costumes and content. Nothing will be removed or replaced in the Western release,” the publisher said on Twitter. “As for controls, it is more accessible for all players, and not just the hardcore fighting gamers :) You will use your entire controller.”

Despite some of the costumes (featured above) not being shown in the English trailer, it’s worth pointing out that you can customize the ladies to wear lots of different outfits. Read more on the game in our original report here.

SNK Heroines: Tag Team Frenzy will launch for PlayStation 4 and the Nintendo Switch sometime this summer, worldwide.

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  • Anon_Amous

    Okay, then I will buy it. I mean I’m not a crazy fighter fan but I gotta show people that this kind of move = more lucrative rewards so that I can protect future localizations.

    Besides I need something to tide me over until Switch Smash.

  • Mr0303

    I’m still suspicious of NISA, but for now things seem OK.

  • PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS

    Athena is best girl 💕

  • bimmyz

    who would thought that nintendo would be the last bastion of lewdness?

    https://i.imgur.com/IpSWjRL.jpg

  • ghostbody

    SNK doesn’t care. People were mad about Angel in KOF 14 and they enhanced what made people mad. They know their fanbase.

  • Dewey Defeats Truman

    I feel like I’ve heard NISA lie about this exact same thing before, and even if I’m wrong I still refuse to buy something from them. Even if the costumes or other content are still there I’d still rather not wade through a fundamentally bad translation or a version of the game with more bugs than the Japanese release.

  • I doubt it.

  • magicalfollower

    SNK is not that stupid.

  • Fear Me I Am Free

    Yeah, they aren’t perfect, but I’m glad that Nintendo is starting to shy away from being so censor happy.

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    If it isn’t from the lips of SNK, I won’t trust it. Still would have to worry about the translation quality of the text either way.

  • Mr0303

    It’s not SNK that people are worried about.

  • Jettythesunfish

    Mayhaps SNK will overlook development themselves and ensure that NISA doesn’t fuck anything up. I share your skepticism considering NISA has been very censor-happy in the past (i.e. Criminal Girls).

  • Jettythesunfish
  • Jettythesunfish

    Especially considering they had a penis joke in Xenoblade 2.

  • evilmajikman

    Nintendo has nothing to do with this game though. It’s confirmed to be releasing on PS4 as well.

  • CatCouch

    Announcing a game is uncensored is kind of sad. The fact we even need articles to clarify this is sad. The fact I think I’ve written this comment before is sad.

    Censorship does seem to be going down in these types of games and that makes me happy! Time to have a glass half-full outlook on games for the first time in years~

  • bimmyz

    oh cmon now, you know people are gonna buy this on the switch, one button fighter, joy con in one hand, the other, well..

  • Louis

    Okay, but will Fio be in it?

  • Of course people will be worried.
    it just rub you the wrong way the trailers are showing the difference. Innocent until proven guilty i guess.
    This trust that have already been broken many times concerning censorship.
    It’s not recovering anytime soon.

  • iswear12

    Easy to say shit before release and have it not be true, especially for NoA and NISA.
    I won’t believe it till the game is both released and datamined and even then I’ll still be skeptical.
    Fuck this cancer

  • PenguinPlayer

    Yeah, I’ve heard this before. Call me cynical, but I won’t trust it until I am holding the complete product with my own two hands. On a lighter note, Kula is always adorable.

  • Psichaos

    What’s funny is that I thought the dick joke was a localization decision, and reviewed the Japanese voice over, and realized Nia actually just straight up calls Zeke a dickhead in Japanese.

  • panda

    I’ve seen “this game will not be censored” turn out to be bullshit before.

  • Psichaos

    Still doesn’t assuage my fears that NISA will figure out some way to brick every Switch that plays this game.

  • snugdarkly

    I would love for that to be the case, but it’s way too soon to call them that.

  • snugdarkly

    You’re a wise man.

  • snugdarkly

    Don’t get ahead of yourself.

  • CRES

    I’m still cautious. We had similar assurances for games like Xenoblade Chronicles X and Tales of Berseria only for both to be ultimately censored and given NIS America’s history of censoring content (See Criminal Girls and Mugen Souls) I’d hold off on that pre-order button.

  • InkViper

    Well this is starting to look like it’s going to turn into a interesting test case, people waiting to see if Nisa Keeps the promise.

  • grgspunk

    The anti-censorship deterrence created from the Rapp controversy and the mobile “games” market encroaching on sales might have something to do with it.

  • Fear Me I Am Free

    Plus FE Fates. and XBX.

  • random

    Besides the fact that Rapp had nothing to do with censorship and NoA is an entirely separate entity from Nintendo Japan.

  • Bailarina Ninja masoquista

    this sounds a bit different, they explicitly said that NOTHING will be removed or changed. let’s see if they hold on to that.

  • Zhnigo

    uncesored Fatal Frame on Switch when

  • Nalferd

    Hmmm….??

  • Nalferd

    Better wait for an actual in-game comparison.

  • Announcing a game is uncensored is kind of sad. The fact we even need articles to clarify this is sad. The fact I think I’ve written this comment before is sad.

    On the flip-side, it’s good that the issue of censorship is being brought up and taken seriously more and more now. It means more people will discover and know about it. And hopefully go against censorship.

    The thing we definitely don’t want is for censorship to be implemented silently and passing through unchecked because the issue wasn’t brought up and made aware of.

    Them having to announce that their game is uncensored is a good thing. It means that they’re listening to criticism from our side and are concerned.

  • Fandangle

    She was a PR person at NoA, censorship ONLY happens because PR. The latter point is not only true, but also a little irrelevant? NoA is their own business and all that sure, but they’re still a part of nintendo. They’re probably the biggest branch of the main nintendo tree. They still answer to NoJ who, oblivious or not, still are effected by the negative publicity that NoA gets. But this is all again, entirely separate from any of the points stated above.

  • Fandangle

    Hasn’t stopped nintendo versions of games from being censored before.

  • Fandangle

    Who knows, it may come out uncensored, but that doesn’t mean it wont be packed to the brim with bad dialogue, memes, various western-only bugs and glitches, and cut content that’s “totally not censorship guys!”

  • CatCouch

    You’re exactly right.

    I was really worried about censorship coming from culturalization when that came up before but it looks like things are actually going well. Xenoblade C2 was my big test and they passed.

    Nintendo brought me back in after they alienated me with the repeated censorship and the time they DMCA’d sexy fan art I drew on Tumblr. NOA really did that to me, lol.

  • Besides the fact that Rapp had nothing to do with censorship

    And there’s the white-knight.

  • Bitterbear

    Showing tiddies is raep!

    Showing ass on the other hand..

    https://media.giphy.com/media/3o8doWr22V4iVGyiUU/giphy.gif

  • Nevoeiromortal

    Shit, you beat me to it.

  • Vex

    NISA have lied about not censoring games before. I don’t believe anything they say.

  • Vex

    They’ve never kept their promises. They promised Ys 8 wouldn’t be fucked up and to have confidence in them. They’ve said they weren’t going to censor other games but they end up getting censored. (Criminal Girls and Mugen Souls) which they both tried to lie about the ESRB telling them to alter the game which was caught as a lie. Never trust NISA.

  • Name an example of one then?

    I know that the Wii U had Bombing Bastards and the PS4 got Bombing Busters: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/09/weirdness_wii_u_title_bombing_bastards_becomes_bombing_busters_on_ps4_at_sonys_request

    I would also name BMX XXX which was censored for Sony’s platform exclusively but that’s rather old. Same with Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 (which wasn’t on Nintendo I know) but may have been censored due to Microsoft for all I know to avoid Sony getting the best version. >_>

  • Eldhin Shichiou

    We will see once it gets released. It’s NIS America after all

  • grgspunk

    Sure, Rapp might not’ve been the most ideal target since she didn’t directly contribute to any censoring, but it sent both Nintendo and Treehouse a clear message:

    You fuck up our titles, and we’ll fuck you up.

    A little deterrence goes a loooong way.

  • Spokker

    And another happy customer.

  • 2501

    PSYCHO BWALLL!

  • InkViper

    It’s because they keep on getting caught is why this one should be interesting, to see if they have learnt their lesson or they haven’t.

  • Marc Duarte

    Ditto for Genei Ibun Roku #FE aka Tokyo Mirage Sessions. I’m still keeping my fingers crossed that there will be a fixed port eventually released for the Switch. I considered buying a used Wii U to play it with the uncensored patch, but that would’ve required tracking down a console with outdated firmware in order to do so, which would’ve been a real pain. Buying new is completely out of the question, because the prices are ridiculous. (What happened to all those unsold consoles that were just sitting in warehouses collecting dust?)

  • A Punk Named Katsuya Jonouchi

    Hell in one of the arms trailers, the camera purposely zooms in on twintelle’s ass numerous times. Don’t even get me started on Dahlia in Xenoblade2, looks like it’s part of Nintendo’s new marketing strategy to purposely fuel R34 content.

  • A Punk Named Katsuya Jonouchi

    Nintendo tends to censor they’re own in house stuff, seldom 3rd party titles. Besides if they did censor the game it would have just given people more incentive to go with the PS4 version.

  • Albert Joestar

    also, even if it’s uncensored, be wary of poor translations, NISA has a really fucking long way to go before they get me to buy something from them again, I’m just importing this one to be sure.

  • Sean Sharpe

    It’s true though. I mean, she seemed like a weird target for the anti-censorship crowd to go after, especially the one’s that were upset over XCX’s censorship of Lin… ‘Cause, you know, that essay of her’s.

    It’s like folks brains stopped working just because she identified as a feminist… Even if she was totally cool with lolis. I mean, that fucking essay of her’s.

  • Sean Sharpe

    Nintendo censors largely because of the image they want to present in the West; wholesome, safe fun for the whole family… At least, sometimes.

    They tend to be inconsistent and they always have been. But it has nothing to do with the culture war and everything to do with Nintendo seemingly leaping from the place for family fun and trying to cater to the hardcore gamer.

  • Sean Sharpe

    Seems like folks forget that NOA hasn’t had real power since the N64 era.

  • Sean Sharpe

    If anything, the Rapp controversy would have made them more censorship happy… You know, since people were trying to get her fired because she wrote and essay defending child pornography and hooked on the side…

    That’s not the sort of thing that makes corporations think sexy anime girls is a good thing. It’s the sort of thing that makes companies try to clean their image.

    Thankfully, it was a minor controversy at the end of the day or the crew that whines when their anime girls of questionable age get censored would whine even more because they’d have been even more heavy handed.

  • Sean Sharpe

    Nintendo is only really censor happy on first party titles or things they publish in the first place. And even then, they tend to be inconsistent.

  • grgspunk

    Rapp’s essay was a red herring to get all eyes on her because we hated her for her (current) SJW views. It was was something she wrote in college because she opposed the feminist hysteria in the Rapelay scandal of 2009, which was deliberately taken out of context to make her look like a pedophile defending IRL child porn. I mean, she opposed feminists back then, but are in cahoots with them now, so obviously we’d try to drag her rep into the ground, you know?

    On the other hand, if Nintendo investigated the issue thoroughly and actually read the essay themselves instead of taking the accusations at face value, they wouldn’t have come to the conclusion that she was a pedophile, so it’s not likely they’d be tempted to fire her or censor shit more.

    What really did her in was that we took further by doxing her and exposing her second job as a prostitute.

    No company that wants to maintain a good image wants someone like that, but most businesses don’t want to have to risk having their employees being targeted by people for what they do their personal lives, either. If Nintendo got the message that we’ll keep exposing the personal lives of their employees if they keep censoring shit, then we’ve accomplished our mission.

  • SevTheBear

    Good to hear. Censorship is BS when it comes to art and entertainment. Only happens because of whining snowflakes or narsistic social hippies.

  • Divine Providence

    @grgspunk:disqus

    Wait, Rapp defending pedos extended beyond that essay she wrote, she often posted on twitter talking about how she had an attraction to the pedos themselves. That was some fucked up shit!

  • Cats736

    PQube: “Valkyrie Drive will not be censored!” proceeds to remove ages without saying anything about it until caught.

  • Fandangle

    Nintendo censors largely because of the image they want to present in the West; wholesome, safe fun for the whole family… At least, sometimes.

    a more fancy and over complex way of saying “Nintendo censors for PR”. so you agree with me.

    Inconsistencies usually are caused because some translators still believe in delivering quality translations and editors and PR people can’t be breathing down their necks at all times.

  • Fandangle

    Muramasa? They completely retranslated it for the vita to he more faithful to the japanese script. I can’t remember what developer who said it but they basically said Nintendo has a very young image in the eyes of the general populace including the developers themselves that Nintendo has propagated.

  • grgspunk

    If you’re attracted to a pedophile and said pedophile is of age, it’s not pedophilia.

  • Divine Providence

    I never said it was, but it’s still sick to be attracted to someone BECAUSE they’re a pedophile. She was trying to imply that it was a turn on for her.

  • That’s a weird one since the Vita port came much later, but I would still like a source if you can find one or a lead for me to follow up someday. I was hoping for a multiplat in the same time frame, ideally with artwork changes rather than me checking the script of two translations which may not even have significant changes to the tone.

    If it is a question of whether developers or people in general perceive Nintendo platforms are more toy-like or childish, I don’t think I can dismiss that. I’ve even noticed a trend of games on Nintendo platforms having less DLC focus which can’t be tied to storage (Senran Kagura series).

    I feel that’s a totally different question still.

  • grgspunk

    Whoop-de-fucking do. Maybe she can seduce some pedos and fuck their brains out to the point where they’re too tired to fuck kids.

  • Fandangle

    I’ve played both and it was somewhat a big deal upon release.you can easily emulate one and pirate the other to compare.

  • Indeed, I wouldn’t feel too much shame and at this point and if it was too much, I could even just watch playthroughs but no matter which option I pick it is a massive time investment unless there is something big and notable.

    I would rather look for something small with just some confirmation that Nintendo did something to influence a 3rd party localisation team for an unrelated project.

  • Lea Pastillaroja

    Rapp was a literal whore and she was on firendly terms with both Anita and Zoe.
    That alone automatically labels her as an anti-gamer who must be immediatelly purged from the industry

  • Lea Pastillaroja

    >people were trying to get her fired because she wrote and essay defending child pornography and hooked on the side
    we wanted to get rid of her because she was evil (or a feminist wich are basically the same thing), her being a degenerated pedo whore was just the weapon we used
    same with Gamergate, nobody ever gave a fuck about ethics, we just used it as our weapon cus leftards were corrupt as fuck but the reason we wanted them gon was because they were evil

  • Lea Pastillaroja
  • Sean Sharpe

    The Rapelay controversy went far beyond feminists on the internet, dude. It was something that brought near universal outrage outside the gaming community and even a lot of disgust within… And chances are her views didn’t change much considered her twitter was filled with her talking about how she loved sexy female characters in the first place.

    Also, if you getting someone fired because they made an essay supporting child porn is going to make any company *less* likely to censor… You legitimately have a very strange way of viewing the world. Since that’s not how it works.

    The last paragraph also sounds completely psychopathic. Rapp getting fired is no skin off my teeth, since defending child pornography of even lolicon makes you sort of creepy not matter how you look at it… The whole idea of getting people fired and ruining their lives over a video game seems a touch excessive… No matter what your view of censorship is.

  • Sean Sharpe

    Kinda sorta… But someone posting shit for Nintendo on twitter is no where close to the folks who decide what is acceptable and what isn’t as far as localizations go. That person is a lot higher up and given the way that Nintendo actually runs things these days, a flunky of Nintendo of Japan.

    Again, this isn’t the N64 days. Nintendo of America is pretty much just there to be a face in the States of Nintendo of Japan. It has no power, no real authority, and the folks everyone bitch about just to the jobs they get told to do…

    Yet folks are looking at the wrong people. They are pretty much shooting the messenger since modern Nintendo is pretty much doesn’t give their international branches any real power.

  • Sean Sharpe

    Fighting shitty things by doing shitty things also makes you a shitty person… No matter how shitty your enemy is. And if you really care about censorship of games, you don’t do something that risks a company thinking that they are justified to do more censorship.

  • Sean Sharpe

    I think the point folks are saying she’s not a very good target to wage the anti-censorship crusade against…. Making Nintendo think you don’t want people like her doesn’t make Nintendo think you want Lin’s bikini. It makes them think you totally don’t…

    I mean, she’s a pretty fucked up person and I’m glad she’s gone… But the whole Rapp thing had the potential to more or less have people fighting the good fight against censorship shoot themselves in the foot… Especially with as out of touch as Nintendo is,

  • Fandangle

    Yet folks are looking at the wrong people. They are pretty much
    shooting the messenger since modern Nintendo is pretty much doesn’t give
    their international branches any real power.

    There is so much balls to the walls idiocy in this statement I barely know where to begin. Have you ever worked for a chain store or a corporation ever? Especially international corporations and the impracticality of an american company relying WHOLLY on a japanese company for important decisions.

    An american branch of a company isn’t just some face for a company. Otherwise foreign companies wouldn’t sink literal billions and millions into opening american branches just for some “PR”. They’re fully fledged companies with their own jobs and chains of command and anyone who has worked in a company before knows exactly what it’s like being in that type of environment. It goes through countless checks in their own system before NoJ even sees it in an expense report because that’s how companies work.

    Foreign branches are made to be wholly autonomous. Nintendo of Japan doesn’t care about America outside of the fact it makes them money for the most part. They’ll only get involved if they think their brand is being tarnished. The people working there aren’t equipped to handle both Japan and america, it’s a ridiculous job to put on one branch like that and just have NoA be some kind of “face”.

    NoA are supposed to do Nintendo of Japan’s job except in america. They’re there to make executive decisions for the american audience to ensure the nintendo brand is successful in that region. They’re also incredibly meddlesome, prudish, and incredibly archaic. They’re supposed to be “experts” on american society and the to market those games. The translations should be as far divorced as this as possible and the translators should want to give the most whole and faithful experience possible. Nintendo consistently fails to do this with their marketing focus. The fact that Iwata took over Reggie’s position was a little crazy back in the day, but it’s clear now that nothing has changed since that point because They’re still letting NoA make executive decisions on their games and come out and said that they’re asking NoA and NoE to both give input on their in development games as well.

    I just don’t get where your assumption that Nintendo hired literally thousands of people just to sit around on their bums all day and do nothing but PR when they clearly have other branches including Game Development and Translation and Localization.

  • grgspunk

    You’re right, as far as the overall censorship issue is concerned, she’s not a very good target because she wasn’t directly involved in their localization effort.

    I consider Rapp’s ousting as a warning shot to those who were involved in butchering these titles.

  • grgspunk

    Whoop-de-fucking doo. One pedo fucking an of-age woman means that’s fucking one less child.

  • grgspunk

    I’m pretty sure plenty of people here would love to fuck a whore cosplaying as an Earthbound character. It was the best game in all existence, after all.

  • Divine Providence

    I don’t think you understand the problem, if she’s in on his perversion, and she’s turned on by the idea of him being into kids. There’s no hope for him to seek help or be treated because she likes it, and what’s worse is that this dynamic leads to predatory couples who work together to harm children.

    Why the fuck are you ok with this?

  • grgspunk

    Why the fuck are you ok with this?

    Because I couldn’t give two fucks about pedophiles or anyone attracted to pedophiles, that’s why.

    If I did, I’d risk empowering assholes that wish to come after fictional games and media under the same reasons that you’re bitching and whining about.

    This is especially considering the fact that shit like moe/loli in anime, manga and Japanese videogames have constantly come under siege from fucktards who refuse to accept that they have a right to exist. All because of concerns about pedophilia. Sure, you say you can tell the difference between fiction and reality, but when it comes to the topic of pedophilia, that shit goes out the door with most people.

    I hold sex-negative “fans”, politicians, and politicized/bribed game journalists in lower regard than pedophiles. If it weren’t for Rapp’s tendency to spew her SJW bullshit while working at a videogame company, I wouldn’t have bothered condoning her ousting.

  • grgspunk

    The Rapelay controversy went far beyond feminists on the internet, dude. It was something that brought near universal outrage outside the gaming community and even a lot of disgust within… And chances are her views didn’t change much considered her twitter was filled with her talking about how she loved sexy female characters in the first place.

    That last paragraph almost makes you sound a touch…
    psychopathic? Or at really fucking mean spirited. Rapp getting fired is no skin off my teeth, since defending child pornography of even lolicon makes you sort of creepy not matter how you look at it… The whole idea of getting people fired and ruining their lives over a video game seems a touch excessive… No matter what your view of censorship is.

    I didn’t say I gave two fucks about Rapp defending CP or lolicon, dumbass. What she wrote was irrelevant. What was relevant was that she turned into an SJW and was a representative for a prominent videogame company that butchers our games. That alone is worth ousting her ass.

    I don’t blame you for thinking I’m a psychopath or mean-spirited. I’m one of the few Gamergaters who has no problems with condoning harassment if it means defending vidya. If I was in control of GG, we would’ve been raiding SJWs and their friends/families instead of sending emails and co-opting their hashtags. I only spent the late the 2000’s on the /i/ boards participating in raids against random people for the lulz, after all.

    Funny you should mention the Rapelay controversy, because I was involved in it myself. I remember how I defended the game, and how I had to deal with all those feminist and normie fucktards who kept coming after Japanese anime, manga and videogames. Especially genres like moe and lolicon. Especially their hentai porn. Especially how they tried to get the UN to ban it all.

    It inspired me to abandon my libertarian, free speech-loving ways and embrace being an authoritarian who puts his own speech above all everyone else’s.

    The Rapelay controversy taught me a harsh lesson on a little concept known as the “Tragedy of the Commons”, where if you’ve got too many people in the marketplace of ideas, then everyone will collectively shit it up. It made me realize that we need less people in the fandom/community/market, not more, if we are to prevent our own weeb media and our speech from getting fucked with.

    The Rapelay incident also inspired me to support Gamergate, because suppressing and deterring assholes who oppose violent/sex in vidya and the gaming media pukes that sympathize with them was the only way we can avoid another Rapelay incident.

    Yeah, I’m an authoritarian who condones harassment and unironically supports GG. Who would’ve thought?

    I mean this shit is video games, man. It’s my primary hobby
    and something I loved since I was young. It’s something that got me
    through some really shitty points in my life. Games have genuinely
    moved me and inspired me…

    But it’s still game. It isn’t real life… And the general idea that if a company does something you don’t like you wish ill on them just seems completely bonkers… If I don’t like shit a company does I stop buying their crap and move on. I mean, why waste your energy on shit that makes you made and not spend it on shit that makes you happy?

    Guess what? Whenever the discussion of pedophilia comes up, it’s no longer a game. If people are constantly talking about how the things you enjoy need to be banned and that you’re a criminal for enjoying something, even if it’s fictional, then it’s not enough to just spend your energy on things that “make me happy”.

    You have to deter or destroy those that try to undermine the things that “make you happy”. That’s what makes me happy.

  • Divine Providence

    You don’t give two fucks about pedophiles?….it seems odd to me that you would hold “sex-negative” people in lower regard than fucking pedos.

    Those people are trying to normalize this sickness that leads to innocent people being abused, and you’re suggesting there’s anyone lower than these scum is retarded.

    These people should be treated, or medicated, or something! You can’t let this kind of thing breed without opposition and condemnation.

  • Sean Sharpe

    Worked in a retail chain store actually, living in a rural small town. That’s why I know that corporate side of companies often have their head so far up their ass, they don’t know the difference between an actual good idea and shit.

    And I’m not saying that there aren’t times Nintendo of America doesn’t seem a little prudish… But I’m fairly certain that it isn’t folks at the Treehouse who decide games need to be censored. I doubt it’s even folks like Reggie…

    It’s Nintendo of Japan saying “this is the image of Nintendo we want in America”.

    You’re also missing one very important thing; these games still sell.

  • Sean Sharpe

    “I didn’t say I
    gave two fucks about Rapp defending CP or lolicon, dumbass. What she
    wrote was irrelevant. What was relevant was that she turned into an
    SJW and was a representative for a prominent videogame company that
    butchers our games. That alone is worth ousting her ass.”

    I’m not entirely
    sure she was an SJW, since she didn’t have any of their typical
    traits outside of self-identifying as a feminist. That word means a
    lot of things to a lot of people and it doesn’t always mean “overly
    obsessive prude”. Just like “right-wing” can be anything from
    a fascist to a libertarian and “left-wing” can be anything from a
    communist to an anarchist. If you start targeting folks for vague
    undefined reasons you undermine whatever cause you’re fighting for.

    “I don’t blame you for thinking I’m a
    psychopath or mean-spirited. I’m one of the few Gamergaters who has
    no problems with condoning harassment if it means defending vidya. If
    I was in control of GG, we would’ve been raiding SJWs and their
    friends/families instead of sending emails and co-opting their
    hashtags. I only spent the late the 2000’s on the /i/ boards
    participating in raids against random people for the lulz, after all.
    Hearing of Rapp’s firing was music to my ears.”

    But you’re doing this over video games,
    man. Something that content wise, really hasn’t changed. I mean
    violence in video games is only getting more intense and there’s
    countless of games that still have sexy female characters. Less so
    for Western developers, but it’s more because the West currently has
    a fascination with “gritty realism” (which is seldom realistic)
    which really doesn’t allow for much sexiness.

    “Funny you should mention the Rapelay
    controversy, because I was involved in it myself. I remember how I
    defended the game, and how I had to deal with all those feminist and
    normie fucktards who especially kept coming after Japanese anime,
    manga and videogames. Especially genres like moe and lolicon.
    Especially hentai porn. Especially how they tried to get the UN to
    ban it all.”

    If you’re under the assumption that
    it’s only “normie fucktards” who dislike lolicon and moe in
    Japanese media, you really need to talk to the old guard that got
    into anime in the 80’s and 90’s. Most of them want those cutesy,
    doe-eyed girls to die in a fire. And lolicon is something that was
    never really looked upon fondly in the Western fandom.

    Anyway… What did the UN end up doing
    at the end of the day? Jack and shit. And that’s just what it will
    do, since the UN doesn’t care about anything than keeping the status
    quo, but that’s an entirely different discussion which will go into
    politics and it’s not something I want to do.

    “The Rapelay controversy taught me a
    harsh lesson on a little concept known as the “Tragedy of the
    Commons”, where if you’ve got too many people competing in
    the marketplace of ideas, then everyone will collectively shit it up.
    It made me realize that we need less people in the
    fandom/community/market, not more, if we are to prevent our own weeb
    media and our speech from getting fucked with. “Censor them
    before they censor us”, as I’d say.”

    The concept of the tragedy of the
    commons really doesn’t apply to entertainment, especially “weeb
    culture” since there’s a lot of different people into it and their
    tastes differ depending on when they got into something… Who then
    decides what’s best for the community? The old guard who doesn’t like
    very much of what comes out these days? The guy whose the
    stereotypical otaku who will spend small fortune on figurines?

    If you’re too eager to destroy the
    enemy, you’ll also take half your allies with you… And then the
    thing you love will grow stagnant and boring. ’cause I don’t know,
    as an anime fan myself, I think the medium as a whole would go to
    shit if you just focused on one or another.

    “The Rapelay incident also inspired me to support
    Gamergate, because suppressing and deterring
    assholes who stand against expressions of sex/violence in vidya and
    the games media pukes that sympathize with them was the only way we
    can avoid another Rapelay incident.

    Yeah, I’m an authoritarian who condones harassment and
    unironically supports GG. Who would’ve thought?”

    This comes off as a strange statement to me… You’re in favor of
    creators being able to do whatever they want… Yet against people
    critiquing them. If you don’t have a free flow of ideas between
    people, even sometimes shitty ideas, things will stagnate and then no
    one wins.

    “Guess what? Whenever the discussion of pedophilia comes up,
    it’s no longer a game. If people are constantly talking about how the
    things you enjoy need to be banned and that you’re a criminal for
    enjoying something, even if it’s fictional, then it’s not enough to
    just spend your energy on things that “make me happy”.

    You have to deter or destroy those that try to undermine the
    things that “make you happy”, otherwise there won’t be
    anything left that “makes you happy”. That’s what makes me
    happy.”

    For the record, I’m not in banning really all that much, unless
    it’s something that actively hurts other people. It just created
    black markets, that do more harm than good.

    That being said, while folks are free to like whatever they
    want… If they want to publicly share their love of certain things
    they open themselves up for all sorts of shit. ’cause that’s the way
    the world works…

  • Fandangle

    Worked in a retail chain store actually, living in a rural small town.
    That’s why I know that corporate side of companies often have their head
    so far up their ass, they don’t know the difference between an actual
    good idea and shit.

    That’s exactly it. Now compound that with a language barrier and time zone difference and then you’ll understand the emphasis I’m trying to convey.

    But I’m fairly certain that it isn’t folks at the Treehouse who decide
    games need to be censored. I doubt it’s even folks like Reggie…

    In order to really explain this, you have to ask “why is this game censored?” It’s american culture 99% of the time. Now who at nintendo would actually claim to be the “expert” on western culture at nintendo? The people who work at their western branch, make marketing decisions for their western brands, who are born and raised american or the people at the japanese branch?

    It’s like asking an american to make and market products for Japan. They wouldn’t knwo the first thing about it so they’d ask a japanese person to explain to them and help out with their product marketing and design. You’re going far too much up the ladder. While NoJ most certainly knows about it, the active agent in causing it is most definitely NoA, to NoJ this is all necessary for their brand’s integrity and their products success in the west because NoJ probably knows about as much about america as you know about japan, they’re a japanese based company that employs 90+% japan born and raised people, and you expect them to make major decisions like this when they could easily just employ americans at an american branch to do that?