Stop Trying To Be Offended At Every Video Game

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The indie darling Studio MDHR’s Cuphead has been the subject of multiple attempts at baseless attacks via the collective mainstream gaming journalism world. First they complained the game was too hard, only to later say that it was too exclusionary, and now holier-than-thou armchair warriors are trying to say the game is racist.

Cuphead draws upon classic, hand-drawn 2D animation from the early 20th century, which no-name bloggers like Unwinnable and even diatribes like Kotaku are farting on themselves to say is racist. Because the game draws from early 2D animation (which sometimes had racist tropes or themes), they claim it’s impossible to separate Cuphead from the origins of that medium.

This is a fallacy because the game itself has absolutely no racist tropes or themes, and their entire argument falls apart because the same reasoning could therefore be used against literally any form of 2D animation. Why stop at 2D animation at that point – let’s say all 3D animation is racist because there’s definitely racist 3D work out there too, right?

The articles and arguments floating around point to classic 2D animation houses like the Fleischers, Disney, and others having some racist tropes, characters, and so on, however these are completely unrelated to a game that simply masters the overall feeling of said 2D animation.

Isn’t it highly possible that someone can grow up with classic hand-drawn animation while not becoming a racist? Regardless, said racist examples in classic cartoons are typically not even broadcasted anymore, while the questionable examples remain in the grey area of what each individual considers racist or not.

The point here is that Cuphead is designed as a love-letter to classic, hand-drawn 2D animation from the 20th century. It’s not meant to deliver narratives, or really go anywhere beyond where it needs to go in terms of its basic and child-like storytelling.

People trying to connect old examples of racism to a completely unrelated work of art simply want to start an argument where there is none. It’s ludicrous to think someone can link two living cup and mug creatures as “a pair of tricksters” and that somehow between this and the concepts of “heaven” and “hell” all bring forth old and racist concepts of gambling, jazz music, and more.

This recent narrative against a completely innocent game and its development staff is just another example of an ongoing battle within the gaming industry. Both gamers and game developers simply want to make and or play fun video games – it’s extremely rare if not unheard of to see a game with legitimately racist or sexist tropes or themes. Most games never come anywhere close.

Regressive and or hyperbolic thinking like this must be stopped, and it must be called out every time it comes out for exactly what it is – grandstanding by typically extremely liberal or just self-loathing bloggers who are seeking approval by trying to find scapegoats in everything. If everything is racist or sexist to you, that’s all you’re going to see unfortunately.

There are so many amazing and fun games that cover a mind-boggling range of topics and stories that it’s exhausting for me to think about how someone can take something like Cuphead and think or write about how it’s somehow racist. I’ve tried wrapping my brain around it for days since the original nonsense began popping up online, and I still can’t understand it.

I have theories and hypotheses over why people continually do this with things many, many people find as simply fun activities or hobbies – but most of them center around a single gut-feeling that said holier-than-thou culture gatekeepers simply want to be the catchall judge(s) on what is and is not appropriate, or fun. This is something we’ve frequently pointed out before as well.

These attacks on the game become even shittier when you realize the main developers behind the game, brothers Chad and Jared Moldenhauer quit their day jobs and even re-mortgaged their homes. They put their entire livelihood on the line to give this game every ounce of love and passion they possibly could, and while it shows – some people want to take a giant dump on that.

If these cultural dregs will try destroying something innocent people have poured literally everything into and could possibly be ruined over following a failed release, where do you think they’ll stop? These are the same people that openly advocate for and demand censorship on a regular basis, the same mouth-breathers I’m convinced would strangle themselves with a wireless phone.

While I think some of these people need to have their brains examined, they will remain here and they will continue to look at things saying “is this offensive to anyone?” instead of “is this a fun or worthwhile product?” They just want control. I am one hundred percent behind calling out legitimate racist or sexist things, however the vast majority of games out there are generally nothing like that.

It’s worth pointing out that I’m not alone in how much I adore Cuphead – the game sold over 1 million copies within two weeks of its release. Despite the (hopefully) failed attempts at drumming up controversy where there is none, Studio MDHR is sticking with their signature art style for their next game as well, and they should. I can’t wait to see what they put out next!

Cuphead is now available for Windows PC and Xbox One. In case you missed it, you can find our review for the game here (we recommend it with our highest praise!).

Brandon Orselli

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  • Anon_Amous

    Triggered.

  • Jack

    I’m tired of this country being full of snowflakes that get triggered by everything.

  • Mr0303

    But Brandon, those people are professionally outraged – they can be offended at everything. After all:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA0aKjY8K50

  • PaRaLLaXTHeTiCS

    I’m offended because of the lack of racism in the game.

  • Captain Vidya

    They are basically saying “this is racist because it could have had these things.” Racism from stuff that doesn’t fucking exist.

    Still waiting on the ticket to Gensokyo… It’ll get here any day now.

  • Captain Vidya

    They’re so fragile that they get triggered by things that don’t even exist.

  • Evster

    So am I. And before anyone goes and says something relating SJWs with autistic people, I need to say this, I am autistic myself. (Aspergers to be more precise) and even I hate people who feel the need to be offended in some way about every little thing. I actually find thinking of their lifestyle as a little scary.

    If given the perfect oppurtunity, I would like to humiliate an SJW in my own unique style.

  • NukeA6

    I was almost hoping you’d showcase the whole game’s bosses here.

  • NoobSmoke

    B..but Wolfenstein really bothers my sensibilities and calls out my racism!!

  • Jeremy Nunn

    Fuck em. They have ever right to be offended and we have every right to not care. Its embarrassing as a community this is a thing and not being called out more.

  • Travis Touchdown

    I think game journos are just salty that an actual video game is going to be the indie GOTY while gay shit like Gone Home and Life is Strange is completely forgotten.

    Can’t wait for the Switch release.

  • Telling SJWs not to be little bitches is like telling the scorpion not to sting. It is in their nature.

  • goodbyejojo

    nothing new, just kotaku being kotaku, savior complex is in all time high over there.

  • En0ugh

    Love it when game journalists push back against this nonsense. I just wish we had more people willing to do it.

    I still remember when the gaming media used to stick up for games and gamers when the busybodies came crying. Who was the idiot that decided to hire them to write for their publications instead?

  • GodHand

    Please, stop pretending that they’re actually offended and not just employing Machiavellian tactics (mainly critical theory) to destroy industry and take over institutions. You are just playing their game and helping them win if you don’t point out what they are actually doing and removing their perceived moral high ground. Cuphead is being attacked because they’re outside the SJW marketing cabal, full stop. They didn’t pay their protection fee.

  • RichardGristle

    But don’t forget about the holy Cuckstation trinity of SJWdom: Horizon, TLOU, and Uncharted. Those will be the sweethearts of the upcoming Game Awards.

  • RichardGristle

    It’s true that their intentions are malicious, but if you get deep enough into a culture like they are, you tend to start believing your own bullshit.

  • I didn’t want to get THAT into it but I did address this when pointing out these people want to be the gatekeepers for culture. They want to destroy and control. That’s what they do, so you are right but they use it via outrage culture

  • Travis Touchdown

    The Game Awards are such a joke that no one will care WHAT they give out awards to.

  • uncle_alfred

    It is unsettling how happy she looks while saying that.

  • Mr0303

    Because she realises it’s a profitable business model.

  • Loli ♥ Antagonist

    Aw yeah, a good old fashion Niche editorial.

    It almost feels like these game journalists have a fetish for turning everything into something, “Problematic.”

  • FlameChocobo

    It’s really frustrating that these people are crying for the boogeyman of racism, sexism, anything problematic in video games when there are not. People will find a way to politicize things and blame anything on the company that doesn’t politicize their games.

    This makes me wish I am in a different country such as Japan where I’m not labeled such words I’m not by the sexists and racists on both sides.

  • uncle_alfred

    Basically “by not including racism, you are undermining racism that was in the cartoons from that era” which is complete and total bollocks. It is huge damn hipocrisy when you fight against generalization that comes with people race or sexual preference, but you generalize in other areas where it works for you. Because you clearly can’t just like aesthetics, you are into KKK as well when liking the look of older cartoons.
    Just like all weebs are pedos etc. am i right?
    It also reminds of that dumb clickbait shit where someone argued that it was a problem that this hollywood bigshot was not sexually harassing any black women. You can’t even make this shit up, are people really this unhappy with what they have, that they need to artificially generate problems of which they are gonna propel themselves into higher moral ground?

  • Feniks

    If something offends you go do something else. You’d think people are being kidnapped and forced to play videogames.

  • Uncle Ocelot

    There’s a reason they have to fill those out with game announcements.

  • Uncle Ocelot

    That’s all she cares for.

  • Llama Adventure

    Journos are just butthurt that they’re losing the argument against Cuphead, so if they can’t win by complaining about it being too hard then they’ll fall back on their usual strategy of complaining about it being racist.

  • Bret Hart

    If they didn’t write what they were offended about, they’d have to talk about playing video games. Which they don’t do. So here we are.

  • Shattno

    Regressive and or hyperbolic thinking like this must be stopped

    What are you, the fucking thought police? You can disagree with these people all you want, but they still have the right to have opinions and to express them, just like you are doing right now.

  • Shattno

    It’s amazing to see the nice salt patrol in action. Usually you people are screaming your lungs out about how “SJW games” and other shit you don’t like shouldn’t be allowed to exist. And the when someone expresses a similar opinion but targeted at something you like you get triggered as hell. Double standards much?

  • AnimeFan89

    I now understand why so many people get pissed off by SJW’s and this is coming from someone with “liberal” views (but still civil enough to respect another person’s opinion). The worst part is that they know what they are doing because it gives them exposure.

  • Riosine

    ’20 Cartoons weren’t Racist either, They are confusing it with Caricaturization, that is done by drawing an atriibute characteristic of a given group or institution an then exaggerating it. and It mostly used for Political pamphlets and ignorable propanga. Stupid and Crazy people can’t tell the difference between them

    Also cuphead has a nice Jazz soundtrack and that is very black friendly, what. It’d have been very, very mean , toward anyone else and have a rap score istead (shrugs)

  • Alex Murphy

    SJW games should not exist though. So shut up [email protected]

  • entropy

    False accusations of racism and actual racism via identity politics are different things, genius. Only bigots see a double standard.

  • Freeman

    Most of today’s game journos a simple creatures to the point of being single-celled organisms. They can barely convince themselves of the bullshit they spew on an hourly basis let alone anyone who’s not pre-brainwashed. Cuphead is a good game with a unique ascetic but of course the journos have to find something wrong with that, real or imagined. Luckily there’s always going to be people like Orselli who stand against the tide of lies and slander.

  • Freeman

    Fuck off, troll.

  • iswear12

    I wonder how many people will take the bait. All’s left that’s needed is a horseshoe theory image

  • YEAH BOI

  • Shattno

    Fuck off yourself :)

  • Justin Williams

    The people making these arguments aren’t really liberal- they are just assholes. Grandstanding, parasitic assholes. Usually feminist SJW females but also castrated nu-males. By making this about political affiliation you lose people who would otherwise agree with you. I agree with you 100% and I am fairly liberal.

    The “offended by everything” media whores need to be pushed out of game journalism and that is something all real gamers can all get behind.

  • Shattno

    How is it bait? All I’m saying is that people should be free to express their opinions, no matter how much you disagree with them.

  • Justin Williams

    You sir. The internet. Win.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    How are you exempt from being salty? You’re literally whining because we make fun of SJWs for sucking at games and writing clickbait articles.

  • Shattno

    The double standard is that you get to complain but others don’t. When people complain about games you like it’s “SJWs” and “censorship”, but when you complain about games it apparently warranted because of “agenda pushing” and “social Marxism”. It’s all fucking stupid.

  • Justin Williams

    None of these SJW “game journalists” were ever part of real gamer culture. They are just leaching off the popularity of video games and “geek culture” for their own careers. Gamergate exposed the bullshit and calling out their bullshit is like kryptonite to them. The same thing happened with the comic book industry- same kind of feminist SJW bullshit having one long “offend-a-thon” until everything that isn’t built from the ground up to cater to their world view is destroyed. There is something cultural going on here and it is not on our side.

  • Justin Williams

    Kotaku.

  • Shattno

    Who the fuck are you to decide what can and can not exist?

  • Shattno

    Yepp, I don not practice what I preach. But you should know that by now.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    So then, logically speaking, whats the point of bitching if you’re self aware?

  • David Curry

    It’s pathetic how modern Westerners bleat out stupidity and hypocrisy behind some sociopolitical belief they invented.

  • Shattno

    Dude, the only reason I come to this comment section is to procrastinate, arguing with strangers online is a way for me to not have to think about work.

  • David Curry

    I can’t take another decade of this. Make a better world than this one, Gen Z.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    Why do you conveniently only ever show up when there is a politically slanted article?

    You’ve made it clear numerous times in the past(including now) that you generally don’t like the consensus of the community. So if it bothers you so much, then whats the point? Why not at least “procrastinate” on a site where you can fit in better?

  • Miguel Angel Opazo Arancibia

    Do you realize that you are preaching to the choir, right ? It’s Niche gamer.

  • entropy

    Oh, I see. Thanks for the correction.

    I didn’t realise that complaining about one thing means you have to accept every other complaint from every other person as legitimate.

    So if I complain about racism, I shouldn’t object to other people complaining about n**gers. Makes perfect sense.

  • Maria Maasaa

    But if they stop being offended then how will they get the attention that keeps them alive?

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    Shittno is a crypto Gaffer who has been trolling here for a while, if you’re expecting any logical discourse, then be prepared for a torrent of Gish Galloping and strawmen accusations.

  • Shattno

    Look, I read almost all nichegamer articles, I like this page. But every so often there is a, as you say, politically slanted article (which is weird, because I thought that at least half the point of this place was to keep politics out of games.), and this is usually when I read the comments. Because I know I’m going to find something I disagree with and possibly have a discussion. You say I should “procrastinate on a site where you can fit in better”, but what’s the point of discussing something with someone I agree with, whats the fun in that? (Also, I don’t really fit in anywhere, I have very contradictory opinions about almost everything).

    So, I’m asking you, whats the point of having a forum where everyone agrees? Because that’s just an echo chamber, and what good is that?

  • iswear12
  • Shattno

    Shit, I get that you are being sarcastic, but that’s my honest opinion. Everyone has the right to complain about shit, no matter how batshit crazy you are.

  • iswear12

    I’ll take your word for it considering he keeps his prof private.
    If you’ve got any caps though that’d be appreciated

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    Just go back to any politically related articles from the past like the Sombrero Mario or Far Cry 5 ones, and you’ll see how he always shows up then to shill and troll.

  • Shattno

    I don’t even know what a crypto Gaffer is :(

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    So, you’re complaining about this article for opposing a political viewpoint, but then at the same time you’re promoting the idea of having political discourse? What?

    Also, If I remember our last debate, you claimed to be a Swedish socialist who is pro open borders and pro Islam, so I really don’t think you would be seen as “contradictory” in communities like NeoGaf or Polygon XD

  • Shattno

    I don’t know what that is…

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    Right, and we have a right to criticize SJWs, so whats your beef?

  • iswear12

    You use Disqus about 7 times more than I do at least according to your comment count and you don’t know what the fucking notification symbol looks like?

  • Shattno

    No, not really. I’m complaining about this article suggesting the opposing political viewpoint isn’t allowed to exist. My opinion is that you don’t have to like other opinions but all opinions have the right to exist. (I get the complaints, I think the racist compliant stuff about cuphead is crazy, but at the same time I think you should be allowed to make those complaints)

    I’m not exactly a socialist, but lets not go into that again, I do like open borders to an extent, I’m absolutely not pro Islam, I am in fact extremely anti religion, but I think that all religions are equal in terms of how shitty they are. I don’t know about NeoGaf or Polygon, I have never been there, but reading the comments here I can make an educated guess, and I don’t think I would fit in very well. For example I’m guessing that fan service, lolis and hentai would be a big no no in such places.

  • Shattno

    My beef is that Brandon sounded like the thought police, which is weird, because that’s usually something you hear from the other side of the spectrum, censorship and all that.

  • David Curry

    Careful what you wish for. Having lived in Japan, you’re branded with completely different crap, simply because you’re not culturally Japanese. And other Westerners you might run into in Japan carry their whiny istphobe-labeling habits with them to the other side of the planet. But Japan is still a cool place.

  • Shattno

    Haha, never noticed that. Cool. Thanks. Whatever.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing
  • Shattno

    Oh my fucking goddess…

  • iswear12

    AHAHAHAHAHA

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    Its more Communistic, because throughout history Communists usually caused division among people by fabricating myths about social injustice. You see this very acutely today in gaming with people like Anita peddling the myth about women being oppressed in gaming, just so she can make a monetary gain, like the websites who purposely write inflammatory articles.

    Liberal in the classic sense is pro free speech, which SJWs are extremely against.

  • UnpluggedBeta

    Gamergate turned me into a “racist.” I’d rather own that title and laugh at people sputter about how I’m “worse than hitler,” than live in fear of some land whale pointing at my game and screeching about how some errant pixel promoted antisemitism. Walking on eggshells is no way to live-this is about what’s fun, not what’s “problematic.”

  • UnpluggedBeta

    That’s it right there. I’d be mad if it wasn’t mewling nu-males she was milking for all that cash. The giant companies these failed, childless women parasitise money from make shit games anyway.

  • UnpluggedBeta

    Somehow life is tumblr ended up making money though. I guess there is a demand for tumblrite trash like that; good for them I guess, but your point is otherwise well taken.

  • entropy

    I agree, meaning people can complain about other people complaining. That doesn’t make the things they’re complaining about morally equivalent.

    A trade media should reflect the complaints of its consumers, not seek to drive those complaints.

    Most people don’t give a shit about ‘SJW games’ and would happily just ignore them if they weren’t being flogged by alt-left betas in return for sexual favours.

  • UnpluggedBeta

    Oh I’m sure they end up believing their own garbage eventually. You can’t reach these levels of doublespeak without at least some buy-in.

  • UnpluggedBeta

    For better or for worse, that’s what both “Liberals” and “Conservatives” in the states are both well known for. Were you around for the 90’s? It was the same song and dance albeit with violence.

  • iswear12

    The funny thing is that once you don’t let the label affect you, they will do their best to try and escalate until they find something that they hope does.

    Harrassers didn’t stick, so we turned into pissbabies, when that didn’t work we turned into cis white male basement dwelling neckbeard rapists, and then when that didn’t work we became “worse than ISIS”

  • UnpluggedBeta

    What’s funny is that you guys are still regarded as one of the countries with thicker-than-average skin.

  • UnpluggedBeta

    You sound exactly like a boomer saying the exact same thing to Gen X. Nothing gets done until you get 1930’s tier adults.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    Judging by all the rape allegation scandals coming mainly from leftist outlets recently, its fair to assume they’re mostly cynical.

  • Shattno

    I never said anything about morally equivalent, but morals are subjective, both sides feel that they are morally right.

    I mean I know I’m the one who used the term “SJW game” first, but what do you mean when you use that term? A lot of games that are considered “SJW games” in the comments here are critically acclaimed and have sales in the millions. And even if most people don’t give a shit about a game it still have right to exist.

    What I’m saying is that people here are concerned about censorship and they feel like their games are being taken away from them, and I fall into this category myself so I can sympathize with that. But the same people sometimes say that certain games shulden’t be allowed to exist because they are “pushing an agenda” or are made by “SJWs” or something. So the very people that are afraid of censorship want to apply that very same censorship on others, and that’s the double standard I’m talking about.

  • Riosine

    How can you be extremely anti religious yet, be pro opinion right of existence? Opinion do not exist either way

  • David Curry

    Well of course Boomers love their 2.0 version of themselves instead of Gen X.

  • Justin Williams

    Been around since the mid- 70’s (Dinosaur here!)

  • FWIW I’ve reported on a lot of games that could be considered “SJW” or whatever and have been generally fair in regular news coverage. I may have taken pot shots at the folks behind that Sunset game, but only with noting that it sold poorly despite being critically acclaimed.

  • Justin Williams

    I’m Liberal in the intellectual freedom/ 1st amendment sense- NOT the SJW sense. Not a censorship fan. Maybe Libertarian is a better description for what I feel. It is hard to say anymore since lines are being redrawn constantly but to ME these SJW warrior feminazis are NOT liberals as their social conscience is all fucked up. My upbringing was liberal and was one of respect for others beliefs and way of life as well as the belief that we all deserve equal protections under the constitution and all deserve the health and well being that living in a 1st world nation provides. At some point liberalism got hijacked by the SJW hyper-sensitive team. Trust me- we hate these people as much as anyone else.

  • DrearierSpider

    Goddamnit Travis, you make a brilliant comment then ruin it with the fanboyism.

  • DrearierSpider

    Everything about this game brings a gigantic smile to my face. The art style, music, core gameplay loop, boss designs and the fact that the Steam sales alone are about to pass 1 million despite every “journalist” faggot in the industry trying their hardest to prevent its success. Well done MDHR, I’m eagerly awaiting your next masterpiece.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8159a227c634bba6f60593479220fbdd2f2b10d48d4e929d2a4893cc747a24be.png

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    As someone who falls under Libertarian as well, I can respect that, just remember that your idea of Liberalism is seen as no different than Hitler by these people.

    Like I mentioned above, modern SJWs are just neo Marxists who pose as activists in order to make a profit off of balkanizing people. Most of them are just useful idiots who get purged themselves like Tyler Malka or any other SJW journalist who was accused of rape recently.

  • Shattno

    When I say the salt patrol I don’t mean the writers here, it’s the usual suspects in the comments I’m talking about. FWIW I really appreciate the work you are doing here, I love nicegamer, never stop being awesome.

  • Shattno

    I don’t really understand what you mean. I dislike organized religion because I think it’s a cancer on society, but at the same time I acknowledge that it’s not up to me to say what a person may or may not believe in. People can be religious all they want, but I don’t have to like it and I don’t have to live my life according to other peoples beliefs. Does this answer you question?

  • Riosine

    Then you aren’t really anti religious, got it.

  • CatCouch

    That Kotaku article seems to imply that not being racist is racist.

    “By taking the “good” parts of this tradition of animation and leaving the bad, Cuphead ends up whitewashing the past”

    What the…? These arguments are just too meta.They’ve spun out of control and are no longer relevant to the thing they are criticizing.

    Creating art that isn’t racist is whitewashing now? Why is censorship such an important cause for game journalists? It’s really common.

    So much for the indie scene support, huh? I thought games were art and the indie scene was good?

    Literally nothing is safe from being attacked these days, I guess. Polygon alone wrote enough articles about how offensive games are this year to rival all the past years controversies combined.

    I really hope more artists start recognizing this increasingly unstable form of criticism is actually pointless, as in there is nothing to be gained from it, and just create art for their paying audiences.

  • grgspunk

    The only way we can prevent this sort of shit-stirring in the gaming industry is for us real gamers to become the gatekeepers ourselves. We have to create and cultivate an insular community that is relentlessly hostile to anyone that tries to control the videogaming industry for political purposes.

    That’s right. I want a toxic community. That is how we weed these fuckers out.

  • entropy

    I used ‘SJW games’ in quotes for a reason and I don’t agree with every response to this article just because I’m commenting here, too.

    I don’t believe people object to ‘SJW games’, they object to social justice being arbitrarily shoehorned into otherwise perfectly good games. It’s an insidious form of censorship where artistic vision must conform to identity politics in order to be accepted in the mainstream.

    GamerGate didn’t come about because Zoe Quinn made a crappy game, but because Nathan Grayson was promoting it while he was (one of six dudes) banging her. Reviewers should be reviewing games, not commenting on politics or trying to get laid.

  • NegFactor

    Dinosaur or not (’79, here), that’s a great choice for an avatar. Also, thumbs up to your general viewpoint.

  • Shattno

    I can understand that people object to stuff being shoehorned into games, I do too, but at the same time I feel like if the developer wants to shoehorn stuff in their game, let them, It’s their game. Having to conform to society has always been an issue with art, take Nabokov’s Lolita, when it was released in 1955 people where upset and it became a scandal, today it’s considered a literary classic. When Kubrick made his adaptation in 1962 he could not fulfill his artistic vision because of censorship and he later stated that if he had known in beforehand he would not have tried. I’m not sure we will ever get away from these issues.

    GamerGate was about journalists being unethical, absolutely, and it’s not what I’m talking about.

    What I’m talking about is the people who get (rightfully) upset when someone wants to ban, for example, the latest Senran Kagura because of boobs or something, but then themselves say things like “I don’t think that Gone Home should exist because its not really a game and I don’t like its values”. To me that’s pretty fucked up.

  • Shattno

    Ok, I’ve read Dawkins and everything, and I agree that flat earth, hollow earth, young earth, intelligent design or whatever is shit. But that doesn’t mean you have to be an asshole about it. If people want to believe that crap let them, as long as their personal beliefs don’t have an impact on others or society in general. (This is of course impossible in practice.) If someone wants to abstain from eating cows or pigs because he or she thinks they are holy or unclean, that’s fine, it only becomes a problem when that person tries to stop others from doing so to.

    So calling cuphead racist, while its not, is just being Factually wrong and an Slander

    Did you consider that this person may have another definition of the word racist that you? To this person it may be factually true. Truth and fact is just a matter of perception. That’s the thing about opinions, if everyone had the same definitions everyone would have the same opinions. What’s good to you may be bad to me, whats racist to someone may not be to you etc.

  • entropy

    Then it doesn’t sound like we disagree. I’m happy for any game to stand in its own two feet as long as it’s not getting artificial publicity from identity politics.

    I can’t speak for the community at NG as I’m a new and fairly casual reader (and I don’t own a Nintendo).

  • Riosine

    (Continuing with thjs folly), People can have Beliefs but the natural proggresion of a belief is either to proof or disproof, to Test, such ideas, While religions, in their mediocrity, instead clinge and do mental gymnastic to justify their ignorance

    To demonstrate something you don’t create an alternate definition, you, instead measure a parameter, usually in function of time or space, Or a particle a gene or a group that carries a field, an area, where you can find such properties originate from. failing to do so will result in you measuring something else completely different and having an inconclusive result.

    Now what ties with religion level mental gymnastic is that you can redefine something in such a way that it will fulfill in every posible escenario while also being unfalseable, thus creating a Tautology, -an statement is always logically true . ie:
    Tomorrow it will be sunny or cloudy.True 100% of the cases
    cuphead is racist because its not racist. inverse tautology

    just by having a Tautolgy in article is enough to stop any further academic scrutiny and just proceed to thrash the article as a failed hypothesis
    There is also a reason journalist do not write for Academic Journals where they can be Peer-Reviewed and Dismissed like instantly

    Furthermore Your argument relies on Racism as a word definition while its actually a Measurable Behaviour, related to tribalism.
    In Natural science, you don’t even define stuff out of a whim.
    (except for mathematic because its Formal and non existent, the trick is makiing mathematics to look alike to nature instead)

    (This is usually non trivial stuff for people without an academic background so that is why im Bothering to explain it methodically)

  • Shattno

    I don’t think we do.
    My comment was mostly aimed towards a group of usual suspects in the comments that I have taken to call the nichegamer salt patrol, they are always salty and always get triggered

  • Shattno

    I’m a computer scientist, I know about tautologies and academic journals and whatnot. I understand that you like to measure the world, I too like that way of thinking, but the world isn’t that simple, a lot of people does not think that everything is measurable and won’t agree with your measurements.

    Look, you say racism is a measurable behavior, right. I don’t disagree. But some people will not call that racism, and other people will include more things in the definition for racism that you do. It’s pure linguistics, you take a string of syllables and call it a word and attach some meaning to it. In a perfect world everyone would have the same meaning attached to the word but in reality it differs from individual to individual. Do you remember that picture of a dress that floated around the web a couple of years ago, the one that people couldn’t agree on what color it was? That was colors, different wavelengths of light, extremely hard science, and yet people had different definitions on what color it was. And now we are talking about racism, some kind of vague social behavior. Of course people are going to have different views on what constitutes a racist behavior.

    What I’m saying is that most discussions boil down to semantics.

  • iswear12

    >morals are subjective
    Jesus christ I’m glad I didn’t engage with you, you are the definition of cancer.

  • Shattno

    Are you serious? You don’t think morals are subjective? How come different cultures have different morals then?

  • Squirrel on crack cocaine.

    This article triggers me.

  • Sam XXX

    That aneurysm is coming any day now.

  • entropy

    Dude, I know salt is bad for your blood pressure but it tastes so good.

  • SLoWMoTIoN

    >being offended in current year
    KYS

  • Sean Sharpe

    The culture war engulfs everything eventually.

    Most other subcultures let it run its course. In the early 2000’s the great War of the Chainmail Bikini waged on forums dedicated to tabletop RPGs, with one-side saying it is an awful sexist trope, the other saying it is tradition and outsiders shouldn’t try to change it, and everyone else thinking people are arguing over something really dumb.

    The years passed… And nothing changed. We still have some sexy art, some more conservative and realistic stuff, and we went back to bitching about what matters; edition wars and role-play vs roll-play.

    With video games, it seems like the people who wish everyone talking about politics in games would just shut up and play their damnn games are a minority.

    Maybe video games need its version of FATAL or Book of Erotic Fantasy… Something so awful and cringeworthy not matter what side of the culture war you’re on (if you’re even on one), that we can unite our keyboards in unity.

  • JohnnyCageFan2

    The word “toxic” is overused. But in this community (if it’s a website) there should be a “Toxic” button next to every user’s name, clicking it logs you out.

  • ProxyDoug

    I see that as a positive actually.
    In Japan you have niches fr everything and people respect that. Here, every piece of media have to cater to everyone and their dog. If they manage to make money while having their own little piece of the market, maybe they’ll realise that they can live with that instead of being entitled to everyone’s adoration.

  • ProxyDoug

    They are litereally black listing art styles now. I suppose this is how you burn books in the current year.

  • ProxyDoug

    Films are racist because Hollywood was racist.
    Suits are racist because racists wore suits.
    Air is racist because racists can breathe.

  • Niche’s Commenting Regulars

    We call that compile heart. But even clickbait sites know not to touch the poop

  • Niche’s Commenting Regulars

    The cocaine habits finally caught up with them

  • Justin Williams

    Phantasy Star 2! Not my first RPG (that would probably be Ultima) but got it on release for the Genesis and it blew my little mind. When SEGA was king.

  • Justin Williams

    You have a point. If we don’t want to be governed we need to become ungovernable.

  • Justin Williams

    Accusation of rape/ assault without criminal charges or even the most basic evidence is just character assassination- a tool every faction seems to be using to attack opponents and there are plenty of women with an axe to grind who are willing to be pawns. There is a MUCH deeper story to the wave of assault allegations.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    The only thing I can theorize is that its being used to perpetuate another “rape culture” hysteria, and I think a lot of these victims were sacrificial lambs to further the cause.

  • Jack Thompson

    It’s especially funny, because they have an exclusivity deal with Microsoft.

  • Iku Husegawa

    Thoses right wing people should stop this fucking shitshow at once
    people who are really fighting racism and sexism in real life get mocked by it its really sad

  • sir forde

    Kotaku and the other sites are not “right-wing”

  • Alex Drake

    You got the wing direction wrong

  • Alex Drake

    try to be less subtle in your stupid trolling

  • Travis Touchdown

    There have been countless examples of Microsoft exclusive games going multi plat later on down the line.

    Cuphead for Switch is inevitable.

  • Travis Touchdown

    How is saying that I want to play a video game ‘fanboyism?’

  • Justin Williams

    Absolutely! I’m not saying there is not sexual assault happening. There certainly is, however, some of these “Me Too” attention seekers are riding the SJW wave to get a bit of attention. A rape and an “unwanted advance” are two completely different things but both are ruining careers without any due process in the court of public opinion. Some of the Me Too crowd are outing men who were simply mean to them. To me that just shows how vindictive women can be.

  • Justin Williams

    Wait until the new Dragons Crown Pro hits the west…. boy howdy the SJWs will be rabidly screaming their internet outrage. I might have to buy two copies.

  • MusouTensei

    I’m pretty sure the ones calling Cuphead racists, while they truly are modern fascists, consider themselves far left.

  • MusouTensei

    Social justice is a plaque.

  • Mr0303

    I bought both the PS3 and the Vita versions and it’s one of my favourite beat em up games. Definitely getting the PS4 one as well.

  • grgspunk

    No, no, no. You want to embrace being “toxic”, not deny it. They do this because they try to protray us as a monster to guilt-trip us into relinquishing our market to them–In this case, we have nothing to lose by becoming the monster that they make us out to be.

    They demonize us as being “toxic” because that “toxicity” is what prevents them from exerting total control of our videogame market.

  • grgspunk

    Newsflash: Anti-gaming fucktards know no borders. It’s a worldwide phenomenon, not just in the US.

  • Justin Williams

    Wait for the “Mammy’s watermelon land” DLC.

  • Justin Williams

    I got both too. I’m an OG Capcom Tower of Doom and Shadows of Mystaria fan of which Dragons Crown shares a producer.

  • Maybe in the United Shitty Hypocrite Warmongering States of North America. They are certainly not left-wing here in Europe. They are fascists. Someone who is a bigot, a censor and wants to control what others say or create like the SJWs is a fascists in my country Italy. And fascist are right-wing. And please stop calling them “liberal” because they are liberal like Francisco Franco, Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee and all those shitty christian fascists. (before you call me an islam fanboy, I hate all the religions because they are totalitarian, authoritarian and want to control and censor exactly like the SJWs)
    I am a green anarcho-syndicalist who likes democratic confederalism. I am left-wing, not extreme because this is a word that right-wing people use as a pejorative. They are not.

  • They are. They are moralist fascists. Who is a moralist fascist? A religious person for example. Someone who is left-wing can not be a religious person because religion is dogmatic and go against free speech, critical thinking and subjectivity.

  • A plague*. A plaque is a consequence of a flu for example.

  • The people “offended” at this should move on and do something more constructive with their lives.

  • NegFactor

    I think my first RPG was Questron on the C64. My first console RPG was Dragon Warrior. Still, Phantasy Star 2 is one of my favorites, despite how obviously grindy it is now. :P

  • Justin Williams

    Yea it was grindy- and the dungeons were brutal! I had to draw a ton of maps to get through them. I think it took the entire school year of 7th grade to beat the game.

  • Riosine

    So in synthesis you just said:
    1) world is more complicated
    2) people argue about stuff don’t fully understand like colours
    3) then you isolate the problem as difference of semantics, thereby simplying the world in (1) once again yay

    Sure there are unexperienced amd ignorant people out there.
    (I just subtly point how to improve from their situation- that seem to be a consistent way to deal with them.)

    Now as a direct implication from (3) a simple way, to solve this, is to point that specific Semantic Difference to end with such discussion like. as an example:

    How an Article is not a light-hearted discussion, or opinion, but rather, a more methodical and systematic metrical analisys of a subject, not build under semantic, that is expected to be logically sound testeable and replicable. And how it can’t be protected from peer review and further scrutiny

  • Justin Williams

    I bet shes got nice big titties.

  • Mr0303

    Who? Anita?

  • Flowerboy

    Liberal here, too; these people are way different. I like equality of opportunity, but these people are fascists. I never thought my childhood hobby would be at the center of a bullshit culture war lol.

  • Justin Williams

    Drunk posting. Disregard.

  • Justin Williams
  • Mr0303

    That’s reassuring. Given that Anita is on Twitter’s Trust and Safety council, her doppelgänger was quickly banned.

  • Tubsiwub

    It’s sad, right? Video Games aren’t flash backs of Mario running around Peach’s Castle anymore… it’s, like… a bunch of chicks with red dyed hair yelling at people on the streets.

  • SinkingSage

    No true Scotsman.

  • Lea Pastillaroja

    why stop at cuphead?
    Walt Disney hated the jews with a passion akin to Hitler, Henrry Ford and Martin Luther King
    and Ray Harryhausen had done balckface animation early in his carrer so stopmotion and anything that comes from disney is also racist by this logic
    If this is the hill SJWs choose to die in, i say let them
    let us strip them from all the form of entretainaments that can be percieved as racist
    quite a barren hill they one they chose

  • Lea Pastillaroja

    anon you are right about them using ciritical theory but the thing is they suck at it, there is no need to open the Frankfurt school can of worms to BTFO these shills
    just point to them and laugh
    they are being retarded so they should be mocked as the retards they are
    anything they throw at you can be immediatelly countered with the infamous “game journo vs dove intelligence test” video
    The fact that they are still bringing up Cuphead after that catastrphic failure of a tutorial attempt shows just how dumb they trully are. if i were them, i’d try to memory hole cuphead along with that infamous 30 minute tutorial video, but they just keep bringin it up, and we will just keep reminding them to git gud and stop bitching

  • Justin Williams

    Wow. I missed most of the GG war (busy with work) so I had no idea how dug in she is. Like a blood sucking tick.

  • Sean Sharpe

    Compile Heart comes close to BoEF bad… But not quite. If they go further, they might be the savior we need.

  • Mr0303

    Yep. She is pretty powerful and the face of modern day feminism. She also visited the UN to complain about cyber violence, had meetings with Google and multiple AAA developers. Anita is very influential.

  • Shattno

    You’r completely missing my point, which kind of proves my point

  • MusouTensei

    I’m a foreigner.

  • I am not a native english speaker. I am sardinian, my native language is sardinian, a romance language, the most conservative and the most similar to latin. It is so similar many phrases are the same like “Pone mihi tres panes in bertula” (Put three breads in my sack for me) that in latin is the same.

  • Alex Murphy

    God.

  • Shattno

    Sure buddy, whatever you need to tell yourself.