Analyst Who Predicted PS4 Pro and Slim Expects Next-Generation PlayStation in 2018

We’ve learned that Sony could be revealing their next-generation of PlayStation hardware sooner than we thought – if a report from the Wall Street Journal is anything to go by.

This is being filed under a rumor for now but Macquarie Capital Securities analyst Damian Thong, the guy who correctly predicted the PS4 Pro and PS4 Slim, is predicting entirely new hardware from Sony.

Thong expects a next-generation PlayStation “by the second half of 2018.” That’s all we have to go on for now.

This report almost lines up with Sony’s typical hardware release schedule – they keep the previous generation running until they introduce and release the next generation six or seven years later.

The PlayStation 4 was first released back in 2013, however analysts point to Nintendo’s recently launched Nintendo Switch and the coming mid-generation Xbox One Project Scorpio release forcing Sony’s hand, so perhaps they’ll put out new hardware a bit sooner than previous generations.

What would you like to see in a PlayStation 5, or what do you expect out of a true next-generation console? Sound off in the comments below!

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  • Anon_Amous

    Last cycle was around 6 years IIRC so 2018 puts this cycle at 5 years. Makes sense I suppose, I think it’s more about how the mobile industry has impacted other electronics. Shortens lifespans.

  • Bitterbear

    The PS4 Pro I get it, no one saw that coming, but predicting an eventual slim model of a console is like saying putting a pot full of water over a stove fire and predicting that the water is going to boil.

  • EinMugenTenshin

    Right when PS4 Pro is picking up and we are getting these surge of great games? We haven’t even heard anything about it yet, and wouldn’t they be cannibalizing the recent growth by announcing anything right now. Isn’t it more likely that the launch is early to late 2019?

  • Migi

    Please just wait till we can get a bigger upgrade for our consoles instead of those half baked ones like the Playstation Pro. seriously i don’t feel like rebuying my console that fast,

  • Personaknight

    Think it will be backwards compatible? What more can you add into the next iteration than a social network and better processing power that won’t be used to make the game play better, but just look better.

  • HowlJenkins

    From this point forward, there is no reason for them to not make games backward compatible. I’ll skip the PS5 until it’s 3 years old or more if it isn’t.

  • HowlJenkins

    It was actually around 8 years (7 for the PS3 & Wii)

  • Makoto

    That’s way too soon, desktop CPU/GPU tech has considerably slowed down these past years because of mobile devices.
    What can you find in a 400~500$ console in 2018 ? A stripped down Ryzen/Vega APU instead of Jaguar/Polaris… such a small gap.

  • Mr0303

    All I know is that if true I won’t be buying it day 1 with all these mid generational upgrades around.

  • Wow console releases are getting faster and more ridiculous. Glad I don’t game on consoles anymore as I would be pissed.

  • DrearierSpider

    Let’s be real, the Switch and Scorpio aren’t going to slow down this train at all. When you’ve got the fastest selling console ever, you damn well want to ride it out.

  • DrearierSpider

    6 for the Wii.

  • RichardGristle

    Yeah this shit is just getting weird.

    The problem is that people are actually buying them. It’s like DLC or pre-order bonuses… these companies have no reason to stop doing it because of good goys.

  • chocodino

    5 years, so about any other generation

  • chocodino

    why would they when they can just sell a “remastered” version

  • doog

    I hope console generations are over, much prefer these upgrades as long as we get backwards compatibility.

  • Audie Bakerson

    “What would you like to see in a PlayStation 5”
    Games.

  • Malcolm_Ecks

    Any except for the previous. And the one before that. People forget we have 2 generations back to back that were 7 years long as far as the big 3 is concerned. I’m sure they go until 2020.

  • Malcolm_Ecks

    I’m not sure how on the mark this analyst is. Its not like it takes a genius to predict a PS Slim console. That’s like being hailed for predicting a different sized DS.

  • SevTheBear

    If we see a PS5 in 2018, PS4 Pro owners is gonna be pissed. 2020 sounds more possible really.

  • SevTheBear

    within the first 2 years :P

  • SevTheBear

    Amen to that

  • SevTheBear

    Let’s hope Sony does that. I know one who got a Pro this year (was waiting for enough games to come out) and it would piss him immensely off if the PS5 came out next year.

  • ProfessorFluffy

    If this is true, it kind of undermines the point of the PS4 Pro. Though, undermining their own products pretty much seems to be part of Sony’s company policy these days. With that in mind, I predict they will actually announce the PS5 during E3 this year.

  • chocodino

    previous one was 7 years (ps4 released 2013, ps3 in 2006), previous one was 6 yeas (ps2 released 2000), previous one was also 6 yeas (ps1 released 1994), and if we include other consoles, it gets closer to being between 5 and 6 years

  • Malcolm_Ecks

    I don’t count generations with just one console. I count the gens by when the first new console drops and use that date to be the end date for the previous generation. PS2 came out in 2000, but Dreamcast came in 1998. Xbox 360 came out in 2005. Wii U came out in 2012.

  • Uncle Ocelot

    Yeah, I’m not seeing that happening. 2019/2020 is more likely.

  • Fenrir007

    This prediction is so off the mark I thought it was made by Michael Pachter.

  • Chino Gambino

    This would be a mistake, maybe announce new hardware in 2018 but not for launch. Sony want to keep releasing traditional generations, until 4K screens become more pervasive it would be best to hold off on hardware you are going to be stuck with for the next 5-10 years. The console has to impress heavily out of the gate, its not going to do that while the just released Scorpio is the close to the best cost-performance with AMDs current tech. Going Intel and Nvidia wouldn’t be attractive either.

  • Carl_Ed

    Sony’s business model is to release a console with no games, sell tens of millions of them on name recognition alone, then have developers be forced to support it because they’ve sold tens of millions of consoles.

  • Carl_Ed

    In the early 90s we were getting new console hardware every couple of years.

  • Taiga Gao

    Not even that, Vega is aimed at the enthusiasts sector, just like the 1080, 180ti, Titan, etc from Nvidia are. So you are looking at an around $600-1k GPU. You are not going to see something like that on a console until at least 2020 and even that is debatable.

    I honestly think the PS4 Pro came out too early, the GPU on it is better but the Jaguar holds it back extremely hard. Sony should had waited for Ryzen to come out, then release the Pro version with it and with the Polaris revision. That would have been a really good upgrade from the original model and at the right time, 5 years after the original. Instead they rushed it for some reason and fucked themselves up.

    Despise what everyone thinks about MS they did a better job with the Scorpio, they took their time to make it an actual upgrade rather than half assing it like Sony.

  • Taiga Gao

    We were getting new consoles every 5ish years back in the day. Only the 360 and PS3 were the exception to the rule.

    This is nothing new unless you started playing games in the last decade or so.

  • Eddie Battikha

    Ya right then why is Volta launching this Q3. I heard word that they’re showing a Prototype PS5 behind closed doors at Computex 17 and PS5 will launch Fall 2018.

  • Eddie Battikha

    I heard word that they’re showing a Prototype PS5 behind closed doors at Computex 17 and PS5 will launch Fall 2018.

  • Eddie Battikha

    I have my PS4 Pro running on my LGB6, it’s nice but it’s a stop gap system meant for PSVR. Technology and Hardware is moving too fast Sony has to stay Competitive , Nvidia is even now launching Volta this Q3, I’ll gladly trade in my PS4 Pro Fall 2018 for a PS5. Man Scorpio has no idea what’s coming.

  • Persn Dewillavic

    It’s not surprising as consoles are becoming more PC-like. Anyone who knows Moore’s Law could see the signs and figure this out. I would like to see consoles help push adaptive/free sync televisions, which Scorpio seems to be doing.

  • Shinobu

    Damn, feeling the pressure from the Switch and un-proven Scorpio already? Don’t these mother fuckers have a 60 million install base? Chill out Sony.

  • Nagato

    “The PS4 Pro I get it, no one saw that coming”

    Plenty of people actually called that we’d transition into an iterational console system once specs on the PS4 and X1 started to get out.

  • Nagato

    Well yeah, the last decade has conditioned people to:
    -Buy games (and tangentially, consoles) asap when stuff is still “hyped”
    -Buy the newest shiny gadgets, even when your current one still more than suffices

  • Bitterbear

    TBQH I was hoping for a more significant jump in performance between versions. Not a timid hardware refresh.

  • I severely doubt Sony will actually do this. But if they do, I migrate to PC. I’m not putting up with new console upgrades anymore; it’s getting ridiculous.

  • Spaceloaf

    I’m actually kind of ambivalent about this.

    On principle, I’m against it since the whole point of consoles (at least for me) is that they are long-lived stable gaming platforms. This crap with PS4 Pro, XBone S, and now Scorpio is really setting a bad precedent. I already have a PC, so I don’t need a console at all if it’s just going to be replaced/displaced every couple years.

    At the same time, this console gen is clearly underpowered comparatively speaking. I can see Sony getting pressure from developers to bring in new tech so that the PC + Xbox + PS triangle can maintain relative parity. Especially since it’s likely that Scorpio is sporting some kind of prototype Vega architecture (a Vega ver 0.5 if you will).

  • No time like the present.

  • So you are just going to ignore the upgraded consoles like pro and scropio Or the Wii u short life?

  • It’s worse now.

  • Makoto

    Volta ? That’s a desktop GPU by nVidia, so what’s the point ?
    A prototype is just a target hardware spec, that’s the same as what you had with Microsoft running games for Xbox One with PCs before at E3.

    There is no way you’ll find the same GPU in the console, currently no one has the same offer as AMD in the desktop segment: the APU, that is merging CPU and GPU on the same die (and that’s mainly why Sony/MS choose AMD and not nVidia/Intel).

    If you want to incorporate a GPU by nVidia you’ll have to split GPU and CPU and that’ll cost a lot more (remember PS3 pricing ?), like MS said recently you can do a 2000$ console with a SLI of Titan X but nobody would buy it.

  • Eddie Battikha

    Business contacts going to Computex 17, they said a PS5 Prototype will be shown behind closed doors and and PS5 will launch Fall 2018.

  • Makoto

    You’ll have to see what stage the prototype is at.
    Fall 2018 is just way too soon, nothing stops them from launching a new hardware of course but the gap with PS4 pro will be the same of what you had between PS4 and Pro, that’s all.

  • Taiga Gao

    What?

    I said we were getting new consoles every 5ish years back in the day, the Pro came out 4 years after the PS4 and Scorpio is coming out 5 years after the Xbone. How am I ignoring anything?

  • Phasmatis75

    Just got a pro, not really interested in adopting a new system for no reason.

  • Phasmatis75

    Sony has several hundred games on the PS4. Xbox One is the one floundering, and PC is laughing in everyone’s face.

  • Phasmatis75

    I didn’t mind upgrading to the Pro. I needed more memory for my PS4 and snagging an update was just a bonus. I’m not wealthy so I paid over time. Though I expected my pro was going to last me another 3-4 years. A new Playstation is ridiculous.

  • Phasmatis75

    What’s the point if there is nothing that really needs that much processing power? A 1080 or 1070 is enough to play everything on high end for probably another decade given how slow advancements are being made.

  • Phasmatis75

    Definitely am not happy about this if it is coming out next year.

  • Eddie Battikha

    Business contacts going to Computex 17, they said a PS5 Prototype will be shown behind closed doors and and PS5 will launch Fall 2018.

  • catazxy

    Peh, we all know how wrong those “analysts” can be, still I would like it to be true just to see all the rage in the comments.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9dbb7243cb2ef33b4f959d6b79c538f35a11c4bdec178179efb441de4dbe3ad2.png

  • Eddie Battikha

    Not me, I’m trading in my PS4 Pro right away, it’s a stop gap system meant for PSVR. Business contacts going to Computex 17, they said a PS5 Prototype will be shown behind closed doors and and PS5 will launch Fall 2018.

  • Eddie Battikha

    Ur gonna spend 2 to 4 x more money and miss out on Playstation games. Go ahead ull regret it.

  • Eddie Battikha

    Business contacts going to Computex 17, they said a PS5 Prototype will be shown behind closed doors and and PS5 will launch Fall 2018.

  • Chino Gambino

    lol no, he’ll save money buying games at a fraction of the cost and not paying for online. You need a computer anyway, add in a decent graphics card and you are fine for 5+ years maxing out anything you throw at it at 1080p 60-120 fps and you won’t have to play FPS with gimped analogue sticks.

  • Joe

    PC sales had 5 straight years of steady decline… it’s only this year that they’ve rebounded. Not exactly inspiring numbers. My favourite local PC shop was forced to close a couple of years ago.

    As for Sony’s business model, that sounds about right…. but it’s also been Nintendo’s business model from the N64 through to the Switch. There’s like… 3 real games on the Switch right now but for some reason people are buying it.

  • Joe

    Corporations are pathological and psychopathic. They don’t chill out. They voraciously pursue profit like a shark, tearing at any visible money until there is nothing left but a bloody mess.

  • Joe

    Pro owners are going to be even more pissed if Sony announces a UHD bluray playing slim Pro model for an immediate Fall 2017 release to compete with Scorpio.

  • Joe

    This gen is way closer to PC power than last gen, which couldn’t even do 1080p. Now we have games like Order 1886 and Horizon Zero Dawn with arguably better graphics than anything on PC at the moment.

  • Joe

    This IS the company that left the PSP and Vita to die….

  • Feniks

    Unlikely. AMD doesn’t have anything that can be used for the PS5 at an affordable price point until, I predict, 2019 at the earliest.

  • Feniks

    Sounds like Nintendo to me. They had the balls to launch with only Zelda!

    Anyway PS5 will likely have backwards compatibility.

  • But that will not count the new console coming out next year dude. If this rumor is true.

  • Spaceloaf

    Firstly, very few games for PS3/Xbox 360 were 1080p natively; they were just upscaled to 1080p (similar to how the PS4 Pro is not natively 4K, it just upscales). In terms of raw power they were at least slightly ahead of the PC curve for the time (with the caveat that the PS3’s weird architecture made some of that power less easily accessible).

    Secondly, I am talking about hardware power, not graphic design. No one would argue that HZD doesn’t look good artistically, but in terms of raw power it is a cold fact that PCs are far eclipsing consoles right now. If you look at any (competent) game that has console and PC versions, the console version most likely struggles to maintain 30fps at 1080p while a PC can easily do +60fps with even more graphical enhancements enabled.

  • Need money first. Also, full-time student.

  • Eddie Battikha

    1080p LOL were moving to 4k guy.

  • Eddie Battikha

    Business contacts going to Computex 17, they said a PS5 Prototype will be shown behind closed doors and and PS5 will launch Fall 2018.

  • OSad

    >What would you like to see in a PlayStation 5, or what do you expect out of a true next-generation console?

    – A light, straightforward UI with an easy-to-use virtual store. The store has to have wishlist support and discounts every weekend to be competitive with Steam.
    – An implementation of backwards compatibility that lets you play older titles across all of your previous console generations, preferably one that lets you put in physical media you own and play it that way ala Nintendo consoles.
    – An actual guarantee that the games you buy for your system are fully playable the moment you boot them, without the need for giant day-one patches.
    – Linux support (I’ll even take a warranty void for this).
    – A straightforward architecture that’s easy to develop and port for.
    – Power without form-factor compromise. Your console doesn’t have to look the best but at least make sure the developer can achieve his vision on it.
    – The ability to easily swap in your SSD’s right off the bat, with a decent SATA port implementation.
    – A choice of graphical options, ala Ni-Oh, FFXVI and a smattering of PS4 Pro games, for every game. An advanced tab for PC users who are accustomed to having tons of options would be appreciated.
    – Optane memory support for caching system-related files.
    – If you must add in a subscription service for online features, give users a choice of packages with features they’ll actually use and give them the option to easily upgrade if they want to later.
    – Most important of all, a massive library of games that users can enjoy.

    It’s a tall order and will probably never happen. I’d pre-order one of those tomorrow though. I just want a console that’s all about good performance, versatility, and lets you sit down and play games immediately when you download or put them in. I grew up playing console games and I’d drop my fat PC tomorrow for that console experience.

  • Heresy Hammer
  • MusouTensei

    Give me facts, no baseless rumors, especially not from the WSJ.

  • SevTheBear

    Could be

  • SevTheBear

    If it does it would be a BIG dick move by Sony since they just gave us the Pro. But if it does it won’t be a console I would buy until we are 3 years in. Just look at PS4. It took is 3 freaking years before we got some proper exclusives.

  • tccboss

    I’m looking at the comments below and I get an impression that this might be another ps4 maybe to compete with the Scorpio.

  • BaronKrause

    Backwards compatibility. Sony and Microsoft are on X86 CPU’s now, there is no need to architecture emulation or inclusion of legacy hardware for paying older games. It is one of the biggest perks of a “standard” CPU architecture, so lets hope they don’t take the lazy way out and skip it.

    But that’s for a PS5, next year if their coming out with new hardware would simply be another minor upgrade/slim version, not a brand new console platform.

  • But the PS4 can hardly play games at 1080p at 60fps. And no console can play games at 4k at 60fps like my PC.

  • PSnow is on PC and has PS4 games. He won’t miss shit.

  • Consoles can’t do 4k and won’t for a very long time.

  • Cubanoman

    I fail to understand what would be the purpose of releasing a new console so soon, trying to catch with Project Scorpio? they should focus in trying to recover their share of the portable gaming sector, Nintendo is crushing it right now there and the Vita is still dead and buried

  • Eddie Battikha

    LOL too bad First Party Exclusives don’t go on it till years later . U do know that Kill Zone Shadow Fall and Knack launched Fall 2013 😆

  • catazxy

    A agree, but we rarely see some decent decisions from companies like this. Nothing surprises me anymore

  • Eddie Battikha

    Scorpio is this Fall, I enjoyed seeing NBA 2k17 and Fifa 17 4k native on my PS4 Pro on my LGB6. PS5 Fall 2018 will be the definition of a 4k Next Gen Console.

  • Feniks

    How? I remember how much consoles and games cost in the 90s. Kids had to play games FOR MONTHS until they got a new one.

    Stop historical revisionism.

  • Chino Gambino

    You mean sub 4k with checker boarding @30 fps. Been playing at 1440p since 2013(BF4 1440p/60 1080p/120) on this card which is the actual resolution of many PS4 pro games. I too could jack the resolution up given the display but I don’t see the point of going 4K yet.

    I’ll let you on a little secret… Console hardware is inferior to PC even at launch. The PS3 was obsolete before launch as was PS4. The PS4 and Xbone are just cheap AMD systems on a chip, processors for budget conscious builders re-purposed by Sony and MS. Its impressive they’ve milked so much out of them but its always going to be a compromise with the hardware.

  • Eddie Battikha

    PS4 Pro is just a stop gap system meant for PSVR, I’m enjoying mine on my LGB6 and will gladly trade it in Fall 2018 for PS5.

  • Eddie Battikha

    I’ll let u in on a secret PS4 Pro is a stop gap system meant for PSVR. I’m enjoying it on my LGB6 and will for sure trade it in for PS5 Fall 2018.

  • Eddie Battikha

    Scorpio is launching 4 years after Xbox One.

  • Eddie Battikha

    Forced lol Sony always had a awesome relationships with Developers, but Devs for sure weren’t happy about the Cell Processor. Sony learned from their past, PS5 Fall 2018 is the right step going forward as how fast Technology and Hardware is moving. Scorpio will be in a extremely odd position when PS5 launches.

  • Fandangle

    At launch please. I don’t want to wait. If you want me to buy your goddamned console on launch then give me a reason to.

  • Travis Touchdown

    Nothing would make me happier than to see the ‘m-muh fifty million’ narrative crash and burn.

    PS4 (And PlayStation in general, for that matter) is not and has never been successful.

  • Xerain

    IIRC, there were a few expected features the PS4 Pro ended up not having. Things like Ultra HD Blueray support. The Pro was marketed at enthusiast games who want every last fps out of the games, but didn’t really offer a compelling upgrade to the budget conscious.

    I’m starting to think they realized the PS4 Pro wouldn’t be quite enough while it was nearing the end of development, but decided to release it anyway. It would be interesting to see a PS5 that ships will an ultra hd bd drive, full backwards compatibility for playing PS4 games, and the option for PS5 games to be playable in PS4s, the way the PS4 Pro does currently. Though unlike with the PS4 pro, this would be optional and not mandatory.

  • Yeah, just look at the Wii U! That’s the best measure of success out there!

    …Right?

  • Adohleas

    That’s not true if your just looking at gaming pcs. Gaming pc purchase has been growing every year. Its the computers that aren’t designed for gaming that are decreasing in sales. Also its likely your pc shop closed due to lower traditional pc purchase, non-gaming pc, as well as competition from the internet.

    A large chunk of the hardcore pcs are designed by the consumer rather than pre-built, and its easier to do that using the internet due to easier access to reviews and often lower prices.

  • That was not native 4k at 60fps though.

  • Eddie Battikha

    U just proved to me ur a little kid that has no credibility take care.

  • OK suit yourself kid.

  • Eddie Battikha

    PS4 Pro didn’t come out early, it’s a stop gap system that was meant for PSVR. http://wccftech.com/itagaki-ps4-pro-just-rhetoric-vr/

  • garf02

    depends on what you count as success. if its financially wise Nintendo has always make more money per Gen than Sony

  • garf02

    given Switch is already the best you can get in hardware withing the price/ specs/ battery life Ratio. Sony dont have much options in there unless its making same specs but selling cheaper using PS4 and other branches to soft the blow

  • Chino Gambino

    A stop gap PC owners don’t have to spend money on because the hardware is inferior to what we had 5 years ago.

  • Eddie Battikha

    Ur still jealous about how the order 1886 had better graphics than pc and that came from a $399 2013 console.

  • Phasmatis75

    I’m not wealthy, so unless Sony can really justify switching from a Pro to a 5, I’ll probably hold off for a few years.

  • Phasmatis75

    Looking at my shelf there is such an obvious difference in this generation versus last generation. I’ve got tons of Xbox 360 games, stacks of PS3 games, and a probably around 30 ps4 games.

  • Eddie Battikha

    Ya, I traded my PS4 to Gamestop after 3 years and got $175, I would think trading in my PS4 Pro after 2 years they would give atleast $250 and I’ll get PS5.

  • Phasmatis75

    PC’s decline was and still is a result of Windows 8 and Windows 10. Microsoft forced the market to have to sell new computers with Windows 8 and then Windows 10, and the consumer public wasn’t interested in the OS. You had to order a custom built computer to get Windows 7 or an older model that you might not be able to upgrade because of the age of the motherboard.

    People aren’t really buying the Switch. It sold 2.74 million thus far, but that’s from Zelda and Nintendo’s name alone. By March the sales had already began to decline as the hype train wore off. I’d argue if it wasn’t for the blind fanaticism of the press the console wouldn’t have sold nearly this well in the first place.

  • SevTheBear

    Well my PS4 collection is a bit smaller (15) since I mainly play on PC. The old PS3 collection is 64 strong + one PS1 game FF9.

  • Chino Gambino

    I’ve already got a bluray drive.

  • sanic

    What technology improvement warrants a new console? VR and 4K is supported on PS4 pro, maybe it’ll be confirmed they’re developing it next year, when did PS4s stop being sold at a loss?

  • Kainevil Rc

    This is Cancer. Sony keeps sending me the same message with each passing year. To stop buying their products that is. Gonna be PC only for me this time.

  • Psichaos

    I have trouble seeing what Sony could do unless it’s just a blatant ripoff of the Switch’s concept of being a hybrid home/portable gaming system. There isn’t otherwise a new technology that Sony can go after, and chasing after the Switch with a successor console to the PS4 so soon after releasing the Pro version is not going to benefit them in any way. If copying the Switch is really the end goal of this alleged new console, Sony should rather develop a Vita successor that’s compatible with and can crossplay seamlessly with the PS4 and it’s library rather than make a whole new “home” console in the same vein as the Switch.

  • Phasmatis75

    I have a high end computer (well it was in it’s day), but I still like gaming on the console for a lot of games.

  • Phasmatis75

    I keep my consoles so I can plug them back in later and replay my games. Never do, but my grandkinds might appreciate it.

  • SevTheBear

    Yeah I game on PS4 Pro these days as well. A lot of good exclusive games this year. Right now I am just at bit impatience about Nier :/ They havn’t released a patch to fix it yet to fix the bug 1.04 patch came with :( Besides that I am having a blast with Yakuza 0 and Nioh. Persona 5 is still looking with evil eyes at me o_o’

    PC is great for many reasons, but it doesn’t hurt to have a console as a backup if the PC lacks content for a month or two.

  • SevTheBear

    Would like to see PS5 with
    – 1080p and 60 fps as minimum
    – Backwards compatibility with PS4/Pro games and accessory (would be stupid if not)
    – SATA 3 for better speed
    – No pointless touch pad on the controllers
    – a good lineup of games within the first 2 years

    2018 just sounds way to soon after we got the Pro. 2020 would make more sense. If we do get a PS5 in 2018 I wil wait 2 years before I get one.

  • Donwel

    >People aren’t really buying the Switch. It sold 2.74 million thus far, but that’s from Zelda and Nintendo’s name alone.
    The artificial shortages that Nintendo has created to bump up demand probably helped a bit as well. Once there are more of them on store shelves we’ll probaly see a sharp drop in sales.

  • Fenrir007

    That is crazy – why would they even release the PS4 Pro if they plan on initiating a new gen next year? I don’t buy it.

  • Eddie Battikha
  • Eddie Battikha

    PS4 Pro is a stop gap system meant for PSVR, i knew exactly what i was getting when I got it. It looks good on my LGB6 and I’ll gladly trade it in 2 years after for PS5. https://www.google.com/amp/

  • Fenrir007

    It would make more sense to delay the VR to the next hardware, especially since its a gimmick of sorts.

  • ProxyDoug

    Every PlayStation has a slim version.

  • Phasmatis75

    Agreed, should have mentioned that as well. The drop started in March according to data.

  • Phasmatis75

    Reasons for PC https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2f398b5edfd856064a9da3266c5bdd95aa80b5e4d33d61f4e3f4d753f5334689.gif

    I just got Expeditions Vikings, and still need to finish Persona 5 and a slew of other games. Then the Nioh expansion comes out here in a few days as well. Going to be a busy week. Got to really enjoy this downtime before college.

  • SevTheBear

    Nice gif xD

    Yeah with college around the corner I bet time for gaming is reduced a bit.

  • Phasmatis75

    Well mine is a good program with three week breaks in-between blocks, so I’ll have time to game. I just really want to appreciate gaming right now before I’m bogged down in books and other material.

  • SevTheBear

    I bet. When you first hit the books big time you will either be to sleepy or busy to play all the awesome games. So let’s hope they don’t release to many of them while you are at college ;)

  • SevTheBear

    I lost a lot of mine when I was short on money years ago. Had to sell much it :( That’s the good thing about remasters on the newer system. You get a second chance to collect them again.

  • Phasmatis75

    It would pain me to have to sell mine off. Luckily I grabbed some silver coins a few years back that can be sold before I’d have to sell off my consoles.

  • Phasmatis75

    What awesome games? It’s current year. Kidding aside, that’s exactly what I’m thinking. At first it will be easy classes like English comp, but later it’s going to be full on psychology. I’ll probably have time to game, but before I start I might as well enjoy this lull.

  • SevTheBear

    Keep them save B-)

  • Jose Flanders

    Not going to happdiddlyappen
    Too soondiddlyoon senior