Assassin’s Creed Creator on Hiring: “If the Candidate Has a Dick He’s Not Hired” [UPDATE]

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[UPDATE]

We’ve received an update from a representative at Panache Digital on behalf of Patrice, clarifying his statement:

“Patrice is still in Europe but he wants to apologize for his recent comments at the Reboot: Develop conference. In a very poor attempt to be funny while answering a serious question, he said something that was inappropriate and more importantly, not reflective of our company. We firmly believe that the best work of our industry comes from diversity and we do strive to achieve that on our teams.”

Somehow the context of his statement was lost in the original report, and it seems like no one (prior to us) reached out to clarify his statement.

[ORIGINAL STORY]

We recently put out a report on Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey finally resurfacing with some new information and gameplay.

Somewhat buried in that report was a quote from the game’s creator, Patrice Désilets, who is also known for his work in creating the Assassin’s Creed series. Unfortunately, the quote wasn’t very flattering.

When presenting new details for the game at Reboot: Develop in Croatia, Désilets was asked how his studio considers female hires. His response is quoted as such:

“If the candidate has a dick he’s not hired. I’m not telling the story of humankind only with guys. It didn’t happen that way. You need to make babies,” Désilets said. This is a direct quote from the original report, via the outlet VG24/7.

While the response sounds like hyperbole, there is no indication this was meant as a joke, nor was this noted as a joke. If this is in any way true, it naturally doesn’t exactly fall under legal hiring practices for Canada as it discriminates against certain groups of people.

We’ve reached out to Panache Digital for clarification from Patrice, so we’re hoping to get a response and will update this article if we get one.

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  • kikoure

    So he’s fired?

  • OldPalpy
  • Cubanoman

    He is soooooo fired

  • Hedger

    What about all those trans ladies out there? I’m guessing they should hit the bricks too?

  • Einherjar

    Inb4 “I was only pretending to break the law. ‘Tis was but a joke”
    These fucking hipster idiots…
    Is it really such a weird concept to not give a shit about a persons genitals EVEN if it turns out the people withe all the right skills for your project turn out to be dudes ?
    Is it really such a bizarre idea ? Fucking hell…

  • Mellow_MH

    Even a feminine dick?

  • Verus

    what kind of logic is this though, he’s not willing to tell it exclusively with guys, so exclusively with girls is fine? that’s not how it happened either champ.

  • CarrionKing

    Can’t wait for when he gets accused of bigotry for discrimination against trans-women.

  • There must be more to this. I find it hard to believe that anyone could be stupid enough to invite a PR disaster like this upon their fledgling company.

  • Mr0303

    I’m pretty sure he made that statement during a presentation. In my view it was a desperate attempt at virtue signalling. It could’ve been a joke, but it was still in poor taste.

  • lucben999

    If this is in any way true, it naturally doesn’t exactly fall under legal hiring practices for Canada as it discriminates against certain groups of people.

    It’s legal if it’s against white men, I’m not kidding, anti-discrimination laws in Canada don’t apply if the discrimination in question is in favor of “disadvantaged” groups.

  • cgaurd52

    I guess futanaris are out of the question.

  • OldPalpy

    That or “People are exposing my bullshit and being mean to me therefore I get to get away with it as all my journo buddies will just cover that instead!”

  • NoobSmoke

    Female! (Male)

  • RichardGristle

    I’m sure that kind of hiring practice will lead to a game being developed by only the best and the brightest.

  • RichardGristle

    Female (Male Attack Helicopter)

  • bgrunge

    If you applied to his studio and were not hired, and were male, you now have a solid court case for violation of EEOC law. Have fun!

  • RichardGristle

    Honestly even if he said this in jest you could probably build a case as long as the number of females actually does drastically outweigh the number of males. Depends on the country though.

  • vonSanneck

    Can we just agree apon having quality hirees for the project instead of quotas?

  • Kiryu

    So does he plan to bang his future employees?

  • Mighty No. 56008

    https://twitter.com/gaohmee/status/851950367667503104

    Geez. First Telltale, and now this? I get that sometimes gender does matter when hiring, but that’s pretty rare and not the case here. Just because the applicant is a female, it doesn’t automatically mean that she would be qualified to give quality input for your game.

  • Kiryu

    Meritocracy,are you sexist?

  • Madbrainbox

    If that’s a joke,it’s the shittiest one I heard so far.And I played ME:Andromeda recently so the bar is as low as it can get.

  • Jumanji Joe

    If it’s a game by Panache Digital I’m not buying.

  • vonSanneck

    The one acusing others of such accusations is for bringing it up in the first place.
    I want to see quality, not mediocrity.

  • tetrisdork

    Wow. What a dick.

  • Kiryu

    Calm down.You don’t know me i see otherwise you would know it was sarcasm.I hate feminists and libtards.We just had a feminist telling us here the other day being against quotas is being against equality,go figure.

  • Kiryu

    Hiring incompetent females;yep great plan,that worked so well for ME Andromeda.

  • In Telltale’s defence, I’m pretty sure that dipshit doesn’t work for them, and the actual job ad on their site isn’t gender specific.

  • Kiryu

    Switch the gendres and prepare yourself for a lawsuit,libtard hypocrisy at it’s finest.

  • Loli de 42 Anos

    so… sexism much?

  • Loli de 42 Anos

    I see his true motives. he wants to build a Harem.

  • vonSanneck

    I have a hard time distingushing sarcasm from written text, my own problem.
    They don’t seem to understand how the world works, do they? Time will be a cruel judge.
    Btw, I did not mean to be full on confrontational, just want to lay bare the flaw of said arguement. Sadly we live in a world where I have to point that out.

  • Zaelle

    Someone who does work for them was really enjoying it however. Doesn’t give one much faith.

  • Dana Bullock

    repubtard hypocrisy is applauding a president who bombs a country thousands of miles away for mistreating its citizens but not doing shit about the rampant attack (social, economical and physical) of its own citizens due to the domestic terrorists known as the alt right.

    Fuck you and your “cause”.

  • tccboss

    Proof that the “Japanese renaissance” is happening.

  • Kiryu

    Unfortunately for him this is reality not To Love Darkness.

  • Louie Tejeda

    No big loss, Assassin’s Creed is garbage. Maybe if Ubisoft partnered up with Bioware they could develop the new face of cutting edge character design! lol

  • Kiryu

    So you automaticaly thought i’m american,wrong buttercup.

  • Captain Vidya

    That’s awfully trans-phobic.

  • CarrionKing

    And of course it’s the standard “lol i was just joking fuckboi” response and nothing will be done about it…

    Like clockwork.

  • Kiryu

    No problem,everythings cool.If i had a problem with my car which i love i wouldn’t ask what gender the mechanic is but if he’s competent enough to work on it.Liberals celebrate mediocrity and the results;well you see society today.

  • Procras108r85

    The only domestic terrorist problems were currently having problems with in the US is those antifa faggots. They’ve destroyed private and public property, physically assaulted people, and have deprived people of free speech. So let’s hear what these terrible “alt right” people have done…Say mean words you didn’t like??

  • CarrionKing

    And of course the response is the standard “lol just joking fuckboi”.

    I hope he realizes that the “I was just pretending to be retarded” excuse only works if you’re not, in fact, retarded.

  • OldPalpy

    They get bombarded with this going on about how “transthobia is not a joke bigot!” they’ll buckle hard and fast.

  • Before people start saying ‘it doesn’t matter if he was just joking’ and revving up the lynch mob…

    If we’re willing to give people like Tim Hunt the benefit of the doubt and accept he was just making a bad joke, do we not owe this guy the same?

  • Kiryu

    Yep mean words is terrible,worse then a Univeristy professor smashing a student’s head with a bikelock.

  • That person, if I remember correctly, was some random translator for European releases.

    Telltale is a big company, they don’t deserve to be hanged for the bullshit of one relatively insignificant employee.

  • Here’s how I know you didn’t read the article: this has nothing to do with AC or Ubi, the guy just worked for them, previously.

  • OldPalpy

    We don’t have to do anything as even if it’s a joke it can be easily seen by certain groups as a transphobic joke which is absolute heresy and the fastest way to get yourself cannibalized by your fellow “enlightened” friends.

  • Again, you’re automatically assuming this guy is a SJW zealot. It could have been an off-the-cuff remark he just happened to consider funny.

  • OldPalpy

    The only hires they should be making is for anyone skilled in making game engines or anyone who can convince them to throw their trash engine way and license unity, unreal or goddamn anything fucking else.

  • Andrew Krasy

    >We firmly believe that the best work of our industry comes from diversity

    Guess how I can tell their game will be shit?

  • Kiryu

    I know these people all too well to know they don’t mean it as a joke.They only say it’s a joke to calm down people,discrimination against men is common and encouraged nowadays.

  • I’d advise against going down that extremely cynical path, it will only make you a miserable person.

    But by all means, you’re free to do as you please.

  • Kiryu

    I’m by no means a miserable person i’m just not deluded but thanks for your concern.

  • Fair enough, you do you fam.

  • Kiryu

    Telltale is already mediocre,i guess they want to accelerate the self destruction process.

  • s_fnx

    So everyone needs to be just like him?

  • Anonymoose

    For every 1 female artist, coder or writer, you have dozens of more qualified men. Good luck with creating an acceptable product. Ever wonder why Ubisoft games have released and broken POS products and have to be fixed afterwards?

  • Kiryu

    And yet Ubi makes shitloads of money,western gamers seem to love mediocrity.

  • Anonymoose

    I’ve heard people say unironically that mods will always fixed problems too. The fact of the matter is that you’ll get one competent woman in tech for every 20-30 guys. You can reliably make lots of money by shorting tech companies after they put out a press release that they want to diversify their employee base. One to two years after they start losing market share. Like clockwork.

  • Mighty No. 56008

    From my memory (unfortunately I can’t find the sceenshot or proof), there were a couple of people from Telltale you liked/retweeted her post.

    You do have a point of not labeling the entire company over a few employees, but they should also know better.

  • DrearierSpider

    Oy vey, what a transphobe.

  • DrearierSpider

    Just a prank, bro.

  • hospitalbills .

    No one is up voting you bro. Your own kind hates you too lol

  • hospitalbills .

    I’m sure it’ll be a MASS EFFECT!

  • Fear Me I Am Free

    Oh come on, he’s an SJW. We know he was being serious.

  • InfectedAI

    Anything before this incident to indicate that? I’ve never paid a ton of attention towards him.

  • InfectedAI

    Actually his team is mostly men. So like many of the virtue signalers, he’s a hypocrite.

  • InfectedAI

    Yes because the alt right is a pandemic on every street corner. It’s a near non existent boogieman. A useful tool for the dishonest. As a life long liberal I completely agree there are way too many libtards out there. Illogical hypocrites who’ve made things like ‘progressive’ and ‘diversity’ a dirty word.

  • InfectedAI

    I agree with the sentiment, but using then instead of than makes me want smash your head with a bike lock.

  • InfectedAI

    From what I remember the only major problem with their engine is performance right? They should just hire a few competent engineers to optimize the hell out of their code, with complete disregard for their genetic makeup.

  • InfectedAI

    Doubt it. If he were a small fry it’d be more likely.

  • Casey

    Welp, that saves me the trouble of ever having to look at his shit ever again.

  • edge

    Is this implying the triumphant return of Japanese games while western ones continue to go more to shit, or did I misunderstand?

  • Fandangle

    What does that have to do with publishers being dumb about hiring?

  • Casey

    It’s his studio, he’s not fired, at least not until his shitty game bombs.

  • InfectedAI

    Except Tim Hunt wasn’t making a bad joke, it was twisted into something else and reported without context. Patrice’s statement actually is bigoted. I’ll change my mind if some sort of context is missing however unlikely that is. The fact that this statement is all they have to say in response still makes him look pretty guilty.

    With Hunt the full content made things clearer and the full context made it a funny charming joke. If an explanation that could clear things up were possible in this situation they would’ve given it in this statement.

  • InfectedAI

    Or, since he thinks AC is garbage he believes that the guy who made it will only continue to make garbage.

  • RichardGristle

    Funny you bring that up. The anti-war protesters sure got quiet after Bush’s 2nd term. Even during that whole “drone bombing 7 different countries and creating ISIS” period :^)

    But I guess as long as you’re given a Nobel Peace Prize on your first day of office then you get a free pass.

  • Verus

    now it makes even less sense. thank god i don’t care much for ubi and their shit.

  • tccboss

    Yeah pretty much, even though for the most part Japanese games maintained the same quality for awhile now.

  • AuraMaster DX (austin9568)
  • Ahh Canada… the bastion of progressivism.

  • TT

    thankfully most of my gaming interests consist of stuff from Japan so I have no trouble avoiding dumbasses like these

  • Their PR response is contradictory. First they say his words don’t represent them, but then they say their strength is in diversity, which is a belief held by the kind of people Patrice is. So which is it?

  • VLOCKUP

    Let them for all I care. All they do now is simply used known brand name and Make a Telltale game about it. Original? Fuck you, brand titles are the best.

    Seriously, please destroy yourself further.

  • asimpleretard

    I believe you’re trolling, but Obama’s administration, the left, bombed seven different countries right? And a nice leftist site keeps telling me that in 2016 alone the Obama administration was responsible for 26,000 bombs being dropped. Yikes, I hope you protested him at least once in his 8 years in office.

  • Joe

    So here’s the thing… I’ve long thought the videogame industry is way past overdue to produce a blockbuster game that will be a hit primarily with women. Unfortunately female gamers have mainly had to scrape the barrel and settle for the cute junk Nintendo vomits out, along with the odd visual novels and JRPGs. Imagine a game with feminine sensibilities in mind that had absolutely amazing storytelling, deep character RELATIONSHIPS, and cutting edge motion capture/lip syncing. It’s probably going to take a group of devs where women have major influence if not leadership for such a game to get made.

    So that’s that. On the other hand, trying to hire a specific quota of women to make the action/shooter/simulation games which are primarily targeted at and bought by MALE gamers is absolutely backwards and may end up hurting that kind of game’s quality rather than help it.

    TLDR – in gaming, like in all things in life, women know best what women want. And men know best what men want. So publishers: Instead of diversifying teams, try diversifying the types of games you make, and staff the teams who make those games with the people who know their particular audience best.

  • SevTheBear

    Sounds like he got himself into a mess

  • SevTheBear

    Telltale can take a hike. The first Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us might have been good, but since then it has gone down hill. So if they wish to destroy themselves, let them.

  • Einherjar

    Oh absolutely, that is a given by now.
    “It’s the Goobedygoopers again, hat’n on dem wymynz** !”

    On a off-topic / on-topic note: We have upcoming elections here in Germany. And every year, we have a “Election-O-Meter” set up. Basically a tool that helps you who you should vote for based on how much you agree on with the various election claims made by each party.

    Guess who you align with, if you pick the most libertarian left claims ?
    Almost exclusively right and far-right wing parties -.-

    So yeah, we reached the point where standing in for equality, equal opportunity and general social / economic justice became a right wing topic.
    I’d really love to know when we all entered the vortex and ended up on bizarro earth…

    Its Leif Ericson day 24/7/365

  • Einherjar

    Since history is bound to repeat with these idiots, expect charges in about half a year, a year tops.

  • Eden

    Oh God, I never fucking noticed that!

  • Eden

    Name a comedian who has ever joked about something that wasn’t what they truly believed? There’s truth in every joke, and that means that even this unfunny cuck boy’s joke has truth in it. No one’s going to make a joke about discriminating against men unless they actually want to. It’s like joking about killing Trump, you want to but because it’s illegal you just joke about it.

    Comedy is nothing more than a way to slander others without being sued, just like satire.

  • Eden

    The problem for these SJWs is that they know without quotas there will always be more men which they hate. If there’s ever a game developer that’s majority women, you can guarantee there’s some secret quotas involved.

  • Eden

    Any company to make an AAA game for women will lose more money than Marvel did in 2016. Women don’t know whats best for women as hollywood has clearly proven to be true. Look at the action movies made by females or for females and all the female characters lack the one thing that sets them apart from men, femininity.

    21st century women suffer from penis envy and anytime they’re given a lead role, they always want to chop the hair off, throw the pants on and call her butch. I’d rather see women make a game that actually has a feminine protag instead of some Ridley Scott-esque dyke parade…

  • Sean Sharpe

    I’m not a fan of antifa, since they come off too authoritarian for my liking, and will never agree with their use of violence please don’t pretend that fringes on the right don’t have a long history of doing the same damn thing. In 2015, a white supremacist murdered people.

  • Sean Sharpe

    Democrats, who jumped in the anti-war movement because Bush was a Republican went quit. Just like a lot of the Republicans who supported the warhawks on their own party where pretty silent when Obama wanted to put boots on the ground in Syria.

    Actual anti-war movements didn’t approve of Obama any more than Bush, from Catholic Worker to Food Not Bombs.

  • VLOCKUP

    And racist employees as well.

  • VLOCKUP

    lol Sure it has. Instead of women discrimination in video game industry is just a myth to make men discrimination a reality and it shows with companies wants more women(only women is needed, capable or not doesn’t matter, even if they are stupid af).

  • VLOCKUP

    Let the “diversity” poison themselves till near-death state.

  • Rough

    People tend to take things the wrong way.
    I don’t mind them hiring women. Hell, it’s a good move since most gamer girl friends don’t have any place to geek out other than to us boys and they need someone to look up to. What I do mind is when they’re specifically hiring for women. Same goes if there’s some company out there that only hires men.
    It’s as if they want people for the sake of their genitals and not for their competence and passion.

  • catazxy

    Very funny, what can I say…..

  • GuyGuysonEsquire

    “If the candidate has a dick he’s not hired”
    Then what the fuck are you doing here? Unless…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDQk4lGSEJQ

  • Brimfyre

    Look at him. You can spot them from a mile away.

  • Zaelle

    Eh, if they’re held to account for the actions of their employees, maybe it’ll make them have better hiring practices. ;)

  • ProxyDoug

    You can try putting that quote in context but it sounds bad in every spin we give to it.
    Discriminating against men is not okay, it could also imply trans-women, and to top it off, he sounds like a real creep towards the women he wants to hire.
    Who would want to work with this guy?

  • RandomDev

    And people wonder why I say feminism must die and patriarchy be restored.

  • RandomDev

    Actually sex does matter when hiring and usually in the male’s favor but that’s just reality.

  • RandomDev

    Sex realism is sexist according to retards, are you surprised?

  • RandomDev

    When we gave women the vote, this is all the result of the cancer known as equality. Sex realism is a thing and more need to know about it.

  • lucben999

    Nobel Peace Prize

    Wait, was that a Peace prize? I thought it was the Nobel Being Black Prize for the outstanding achievement of being black.

  • Kiryu

    They are also the masters of Something completely useless,the season pass disc.

  • You’re just full of charitable interpretations, aren’t you.

  • Tim Hunt was making a joke that was taken out of context and ran as a genuine statement.

    This guy might have been doing the same, might not, but I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until concrete evidence proves otherwise, instead of abandoning my principles just because ‘LEL FUCK THE SJWS AMICORRECT’

  • What a load of horseshit. Not all comedians have a political agenda. Some comedians just want to offend and shock people by saying the most outrageous things they can think of.

    Do you really think Jimmy Carr genuinely believes we should be using piglets to wean paedophiles off of children? Do you really think when Frankie Boyle threatens to abuse audience members he actually wants to rape them?

    Stop trying to excuse your abandoning of critical faculties just because you want to burn this guy, when you know for a fact you would make every possible concession if it was someone on your ‘side’ in the same situation. You’re every bit as bad as the feminist nutjobs.

  • Mr0303

    She actually wanted to kill herself.

  • nine_ball

    Maintaining quality is much better than losing quality, so it’s still something to be happy about.

  • Grampy_Bone

    “I’m not making a game only with guys.”

    Then good luck making a game.

  • InfectedAI

    Maybe bad joke was too vague. What I mean is he made a joke that wasn’t bad in the sense that something that just says fuck men/white people/etc is. He just made a normal joke, the latter is shitting on a large demographic that didn’t do anything wrong in order to virtue signal. I consider the latter a ‘bad joke’.

    That being said while I’d normally agree with you, if there was some context showing this was blown out of proportion it would’ve been pointed out in this official response. The fact that they didn’t reveal any and none has come out leads me to believe he was just being an asshole and is now pulling the ‘it was just a joke’ defense.

  • InfectedAI

    Thanks for the non evidence. I was asking if there were other instances people could point to because I was interested in reading about them. I’m not defending the guy he’s made me lose all interest in his game. I just wanted to know if he’s done anything else similar before this.

  • Tim Hunt’s joke shat on all women, implying they were overly emotional and couldn’t conduct themselves in a professional manner; he was stereotyping an entire gender. For the record, I personally think there was nothing wrong with his joke, (it was very obviously self-deprecating when you hear the entire bit,) but your criteria can just as easily be applied to Hunt as this guy.

    You might be completely right, and if I was a betting man I’d say you probably are, but my point is I’m not willing to hang a man and his company out to dry based on a single remark, no matter how distasteful I personally found said remark.

    I certainly won’t be surprised if the company turns out to be an SJW cesspit, but I’ll wait to see how they conduct themselves in the future before deciding they deserve to be blacklisted based on a single off-the-cuff response from one dev during an interview.

  • Shattno

    Are you actually saying women shouldn’t be allowed to wote?
    Also what is sex realism?

  • Sirius Jones

    Trying to surrounded yourself with women you’ll be trying to put your dick in under the guise of diversity and equality. Nice little scheme he has going.

  • RandomDev

    Women shouldn’t vote and sex realism is the fact the sexes differ and that that makes a difference.

  • InfectedAI

    Yeah as I said, very vague. I should’ve been more specific with what I meant. Though with the actual context it’s actually a very cute story by Hunt.

  • Yeah, Hunt always came across as a very lovely man to me, it was a sin what happened to him.

  • Shattno

    I think you just hate women because they won’t sleep with you, can’t blame them tho.
    Also I think you’re the one who shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

  • SiliconNooB

    But what if it is a very feminine penis?

  • RandomDev

    As a guy who gets laid regularly I’ve no reason to hate women, I just happen to understand them and why they belong in the kitchen. No hate required cause you can either understand women or love them but not both, understanding doesn’t lead to hate btw.

  • Shattno

    Hahahahahaha, right. I wish you could meet my sister, she works with the police and if you tell her that she belongs in the kitchen she will gut punch you and feed you your testicles, if you have any.
    Also that last part must be the most ridiculous pseudo philosophy bullshit I have ever heard, you should get your head checked.

  • RandomDev

    You really need to study human nature kid and your anecdote is BS as I’m sure I could beat your “sister” not to mention anecdotes are not an argument. Come at me with actual data if you want to make an actual argument.

  • Shattno

    I don’t want to make an argument, I don’t need to, as you are objectively wrong. In a democracy all adult citizens get to vote, you don’t get to chose how’s allowed to vote or not, period.
    And my anecdote wasn’t an argument, I was being sincere, I would like you to meet my sister as I would enjoy watching her kick your teeth in.

  • RandomDev

    If I’m objectively wrong prove it, oh wait you can’t cause sexual dimorphism favors men not women. Also I’d snap your “sister’s” neck.

  • Shattno

    Can you read? I just said that in a democracy everyone gets to vote, therefore you are objectively wrong to say that women shouldn’t vote. But hey, for all I know you don’t even like democracy, maybe you should just move to Saudi Arabia, there women are basically property, you would fit right in.
    Also nice try but a beta male like you couldn’t snap the neck of a fruit fly haha

    Edit: Haha your disqus page says “Indie dev, nerd, satanist”. Satanist haha, are you twelve?

  • RandomDev

    First democracy is tyranny of the week. Second there has never been a successful democracy, hence why countries like the US were founded as republics not democracies. Third I’m not saying treat women as chattel, I’m saying women shouldn’t vote cause within a couple of decades of granting women the vote the welfare state balloons which leads to rampant single motherhood which leads to dysfunctional adults. Look at the black community, prior to the welfare state they were doing really well and had strong nuclear families and now they most violent demographic in the US. Finally I say again study human nature and evolutionary psychology before claiming to have any idea of what you are talking about.

  • Shattno

    First I wouldn’t call it a tyranny of the weak, more a ruling of majority.
    Second define successful, and besides a republic is a democracy (what are you talking about?), a representative democracy much like most other free countries in the world, if you want a direct democracy look at Switzerland, they are doing really well.
    Third I don’t even know where to begin. That you even try to connect black violence to women voting rights, I mean come on. How can you say that the welfare state balloons after women get to vote? How does a large welfare state lead to single motherhood? How does single motherhood lead to dysfunctional adults? All of these are just your speculations and you offer no explanation. Here in Sweden (or even Scandinavia in general) we have a large welfare state, low crime rate (even lower when it comes to violent crimes) and consistently score high on the happiness index. Check out Switzerland, they have direct democracy, but also more guns per capita than USA but some of the lowest amounts of gun related violence i the world. So when you say democracy leads to shit, you are full of shit.
    Finally you keep telling me to “study human nature and evolutionary psychology”, I have read all of Richard Dawkins books, is that enough? How exactly have you studied it, by shit posting on the internet? Because judging from your arguments, you’re the one who have no idea what you are talking about.

  • RandomDev

    It’s the losers forcing the winners to give them their shit cause there are always more losers than winners! Democracy is everyone gets a vote while republic is only some get a vote. Look at history and all the societies that went democracy collapsed cause the losers voted for the winners to give them free shit!

    Look at the number, in every country where women were given the vote within a decade or two welfare went from a small part of the government budget to an ever increasing proportion! Yes women voting expands the welfare state cause they are instinctively compelled to seek provision and protection. A large welfare state replaces the man’s role in the family, women need someone to provide for them why they raise babies and if it’s not the babies father it’s the state and fatherlessness is one of the best predictors of a bad outcome in life. Women are only able to raise babies to young children but it requires a man to raise them into adults. Children under 12 are most likely to be murdered by their own mothers, women are quicker to hit children, they also tend to squander child support on self beautification instead of spending it on their children. None of this is speculation these are observed facts, go do some actual research on the subject of fatherless homes, single mothers, etc! For fuck’s sake you’re a fucking Swed no wonder you are so fucking brainwashed! First what’s the exact percentage of single mothers in your shithole cause the black community in the US is at 70%! That happiness index is bullshit, people are afraid to speak the truth for wrong think! More guns actually leads to less gun violence cause it’s gun free zones that have the most gun violence! Every democracy in history has failed and that was why it is shit, actually study history! Richard Dawkins is an evolutionary biologist not an evolutionary psychologist actually read what is typed! Now it we are quite done here ignorant little neck beard I’ve got work to do.

  • Shattno

    Dude, democracy means everyone gets to vote, republic means leaders are elected not inherited, you don’t even know what you are talking about. And look at the world right now, how many successful countries are democracies and how many aren’t? And about the women voting leads to whatever, I hope even you understand that correlation doesn’t imply causation.
    The rest you write is just some aimless rant without anything to back it up so yeah we are quite done here haha
    Btw, a “satanist” calling someone ignorant little neck beard is like the the kettle calling the pot black, no? haha

  • RandomDev

    Your ignorance knows no bounds. Democracies always fail look at history kid! Yes correlation does not automatically equal causation but the data is too clear women voting leads to massive welfare states. Also attempting to bash my religion without understanding the slightest thing about it shows just how you’re just an ignorant child who’d rather attack a truth speaker than actually look into the facts.

  • Shattno

    Have the United States failed? Have Canada failed? Have the nation states of Europe failed? Australia and New Zealand? Japan? South Korea? Are you actually stupid?
    If the data is so clear, where is that data? Because you saying it doesn’t make it true. (Truth speaker? Really? Haha!)
    Also satanism isn’t a religion, it’s just an excuse for assholes to justify their shitty behavior.
    Now please go away, I have a network server to write in Erlang.

  • RandomDev

    They are failing now! They are all suffering crippling debt and their economies will all crash soon!. The data is all over the place just go look it up, you have a computer and access to the internet. Satanism is a religion and the fact you claim otherwise demonstrates your complete ignorance on the subject. You really need to do research on topics before spouting off about them.