WSJ, PewDiePie, and the War on Gamers and New Media

This is an editorial piece. The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of, and should not be attributed to, Niche Gamer as an organization.

One thing we tend to avoid here at Niche Gamer is the “Battle for the Soul” of the internet and gaming. It’s never pretty, and with the way politics has evolved in the last year, it can turn violent from people who profess that they are the tolerant ones.

Something should be clear: humor is subjective. You can’t control what you find funny without extreme mental conditioning. And if you want to find out if someone is an authoritarian nightmare, see what they think is acceptable to joke about, and what length they will go to enforce that standard.

Last week, we got to see what happens when the increasingly slanderous and authoritarian media vent their frustration at a Trump presidency combined with  the fact that they are now obsolete in many peoples eye.

The Wall Street Journal, which has a reputation for being a bastion of credibility, decided that they would like to throw all that away by allowing Jack Nicas, Ben Fritz, and Rolfe Winkler to publish one of the most slanderous attacks on a person, Felix Kjellberg, who goes by the YouTube name PewDiePie. This is possibly one of the worst narrative-driven attacks I have ever seen in my 12 years of working in the online entertainment industry.

The original article, which is behind a forced paywall on the WSJ website, reeks of opportunistic leaching, slander, and lies. It has to be one of the more petty and jealous things I have seen established mainstream media do.

Now why am I posting this here? Normally I wouldn’t, but the actions taken by Maker (which is the MCN bought out by Disney, that Felix and many other huge Youtubers are apart of) and Youtube have some massive ramifications for all those in the gaming community as well as the greater Youtube community.

If these “journalists” are willing and allowed to go out of their way to attack one of the most inoffensive gaming YouTubers such as PewDiePie, going so far as to take an image of Felix pointing off screen at something and saying “See look here! A Nazi salute!”, to push Disney and YouTube into a corner to take action, what will they do next? When does it stop? Who is the next target on the list? The “journalists” have been doing this for years to politicians and movie stars, and now it has officially reached our door step, but we are different and we can fight back. But we need to change the way we look at issues like this.

Rolfe and Ben have now since made their Twitter accounts private after the hashtag blew up on the platform, rallying fans and some of the biggest Youtubers to the defense of PewDiePie. This naturally added universal condemnation for all those who sought to use this as a way to delegitimize YouTubers and their influence.

The New York Times went so far as to call this a “Populist Revolt” as if being a populist (a member or adherent of a political party seeking to represent the interests of ordinary people) was some great evil. These are the same words they use to describe President Trump. This is the epitome of classism. They literally see themselves above all of us, and this is their attempt at punching down at an uprising they fear they can not control. I wonder where I have seen this happen before?

Now we are already seeing this trickle down, be it members of games press taking shots at Felix for clicks, to Billionaire writer J.K. Rowling calling Felix a literal fascist. The latter is even more insulting as she is someone who should have the brains to question news media; she even wrote about this same situation happening now in the Harry Potter series with the character Rita Skeeter, who mirrors the real life situation with Felix.

At the end of the day who really suffers for this? You and me, the actual gamer. When people do something like this, they inherently dehumanize their target. Felix is no longer the human behind PewDiePie, he is whatever “-ist” the politically correct Zeitgeist now feels OK with labeling him. PewDiePie is a representation of the culture, not only in gaming but the up and coming generation that are largely digital natives; people born into the age of the internet.

Love him or hate him, gonzo journalist Andrew Breitbart was right: “politics is downstream of culture.”

That phrase meaning people for the most part form their political opinion based on what they generally find cool, popular, scary, fun, and socially acceptable. And sure enough, gaming culture has traditionally been looked at as the the farthest thing of what is cool, popular, scary, fun, and socially acceptable. Gaming culture which has spilled into Internet culture reflects this and became in essence, a new counter-culture as well as a political threat.

Now this is where I want everyone to start thinking differently; during this time the “they” started making accusations that the now infamous hashtag “GamerGate” elected Trump into the White House again via their Twitter feeds and social media. This was largely laughed off as ludicrous, but I am here to tell you that their fears are well founded and some of the most sane things they have said.

These individuals and groups are afraid, and they are afraid because they know they caused this. Normally politics and culture become more relaxed as time goes on, making it easy to acclimate to ideas that may have seemed insane 50 years ago, but with the internet and TV broadcasting, things that would take 10 years to cycle happen in 6 months.

When Barack Obama was sitting POTUS, the pace picked up substantially and became less defensible and less articulate. With a 10 year gestation period people can see what works and what doesn’t, but with this rapid flow of information, confirmation bias kicks in and now it’s not about what works and what doesn’t, it has become a culture of “ME” and “MY.” In contrast, the internet and gaming has always been a culture of “WE.”

Examples “MY” feelings, “MY” pronouns, “MY” ideas. People are so caught up in the “MY” that they can’t see that the “WE” don’t, for a better lack of a term, “give a shit.” As long is it does not involve stepping on the “WE” because for the most part “WE” want to be left alone. In general the “WE” can take a beating, and the “ME” can’t because anything that puppy punts their “MY” ends up with childish backlash as they have never been told no.

Eventually, even the “WE” will reach their limit, but they don’t lash out like a caged animal, making mistake after mistake in their haste to escape impending doom, they strategically organize and fight back. No matter what side of “GamerGate” you were on, it was clear, they organized and attacked accordingly, answering to no one but themselves, while being attacked relentlessly which only fueled the fire.

No matter what side of the Presidential Election you were on, Trump voters organized and attacked accordingly, answering to no one but themselves, hence the grossly misleading poll numbers, while being attacked relentlessly which only fueled the fire. Now in a desperate move, to try to reshape politics and culture overnight in one swing, they attack PewDiePie, and both fans and those in the culture organized and attacked accordingly, answering to no one but themselves, but something has changed.

That change is why all this is important to you, to me, and to all of us gamers. With 53 million subscribers, now growing at a rapid rate after this incident, the general public is now getting wind of what is actually going on with the safe space culture that they were complacent with, and is now festering. They are starting to take a good long look in the mirror. A look that is about 10 years to late. With that realization, they see that they can not attack the “WE” without consequence to further their agenda. They now realize they’re wrong, and we know it.

They should stop looking at the “ME” and start looking at the “WE.” But that is wishful thinking. Gamers more than ever have now become a political and social voice, a powerful one at that. Most would say: “it’s time to clean up our act,” but not I. Why should “WE” conform to their norms? We are a nation without borders, a people of the people who loves our individual freedom to do what “WE” want and joke about anything. “WE” like what we like, “WE” are crude when we want to be, and as long as we are not malicious in nature, who gives a shit if we argue about “THE PLOT” or if “FLAT IS JUSTICE.”

But hey, since “they” have extended this kind invitation to play their political game, why don’t we stay a while. It can’t hurt to pick up the controller and play a few rounds. Hell, we all know how good it feels to beat someone at their own game. Beside, they have been playing with themselves for so long, it should be legally recognized as public masturbation at this point.

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  • Feniks

    I fucking hate pewdepie or whatever the fuck it’s spelled but as a REAL liberal the man can be nazi if he wants. First amendment.

    #WEAREALLNAZIS

  • COLLECTOR

    Seems like this was a bit emotional. Considering this is a video game website, and op-eds are subjective, you not only gave your opinion, but brought politics into a site that is out of that frame of media, which is videogames, not news. You have every right to speak your mind, but using the site you write for as a platform of politics is questionable. Look at the principles of journalism, and a writer should not be a spokesman for their ego or for group interest. Your clear bias in this commentary is a violation of the principles of journalistic ethics. I’m not sure what editing goes on here, but this clearly went overhead, as your editor should have checked some of your opinion to better suit a less emotion-driven piece. Pewdiepie’s content is not reflective of all gamers, and I’m not sure what discourse you sought to take place by writing this, but it’s far better suited for a blog or tumblr post when you conclude your piece by mentioning “public masturbation”.

  • Audie Bakerson

    The media is simply following Rule 13 of Rules for Radicals: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

  • Mysterious Friend X

    This comment is surely not suspicious at all.

  • Riosine

    Right now the whole youtube community has banded together, without being an union, but rather out of swarm intelligence, into defending Pewdiepie

    But it goes beyound that, these youtubers have just begun to notice that Pewdiepie alone Outumbers 8:1 WSJ in daily viewership, a man is more popular than a whole organnization that been existing for decades (So its obvious who is clickbaiting here).

    The time has come when Youtubers finally will overthrown massmedia for good

  • I know right, they seem to have missed the point of an Editorial and does not know I handle Media, Marketing, Reviews and Streams.

  • I thought I would lose people if I started quoting Saul Alinsky, good eye.

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    First EA, now Pewdiefuckingpie; fuckers keep forcing me to side with my enemies and not even the ones that support them.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/04d7ed3f5f735d37a71c14b7cbac6d68acde9b25f110d15571cf279beabbc2e3.gif

  • No_Good_Names_Ever
  • Travis Touchdown

    This is the same gaming press that desperately wants Nintendo to fail.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    Isn’t EA known for being SJW friendly?

  • Kessek

    Pewdie should be able to express whatever he wants. That being said, if his sponsors don’t want to be associated with his “humor”, that’s up to them.

    Disney (and Youtube for the most part) want to have a clean, family friendly image. Pewdie thinks “kill all jews” is funny.

    What more needs to be discussed? Just find new sponsors.

  • catazxy

    Oh, what a shit show, I love it!

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    What exactly was emotionally charged? It seems objective to point out the fact that the mainstream press attempts to shut down anyone who doesn’t conform to their agenda. This is a threat to gamers who don’t want to be told how to think, so naturally we defend ourselves.

  • AuraMaster DX (austin9568)

    And that is?

  • Javier Vega

    I notice every person that is writing articles about Pewdiepie have Jewish names no offense to the jews.

  • darkglaive

    More posts about weeaboo games, less politics. For the record, I don’t see PewDiePie being fired as an attack on gamers. PewDiePie being fired did not stop me from playing Terranigma all day today. I could care less about a celebrity’s fee fees.

  • Kessek

    Bravo.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    The mainstream SJW press is running out of steam, they feel threatened by someone like Pewdiepie because he is self made and plays by his own rules, just like all the gamers who go underground.

    It’s a good year for us when the press is whining about actual gamers being invited to E3. Even the developers are starting to see the press as irrelevant.

  • ninjaclown

    The point was if they came after him for no reason, they will come after you for no reason, unless we make them stop. You could honestly say they don’t care enough to come after you, but that’s only wishful thinking, not a guarantee.

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    The mainstream news media is afraid of Felix’s awesome revolt :)

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    Are you an evil mainstream news media $hill?

  • Marc Duarte

    Something tells me you’ll gain more readers if you do. The majority of people like being informed on what’s truly going on in the world. The last thing they want to is be treated as dummies who can’t grasp concepts like the SJW/liberal playbook. Yes, some will reject your words and ridicule you, but others won’t. The latter are the group you need to be reaching out to. Don’t be afraid; there’s nothing shamefull in disseminating the truth. As long as the facts are on your side, you’ve nothing to fear.

  • Kessek

    What do you mean “no reason”? Are you blind?

  • Kessek

    Which devs?

  • AuraMaster DX (austin9568)
  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    Example: Notch of Minecraft

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    lulz

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    Correct

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    Not when they’re trying to rip more money away from them through royalties for voice acting.

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    Electronic Arts often pays IGN for positive reviews…so, yes, unfortunately…

  • vonSanneck

    Think this video pretty much sums up everything, including endorsement from Felix himself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLrS3UopPF8

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    “Notch”
    “Developer”
    Could’ve sworn he took his millions and ran off to get depressed over stupid shit before becoming a shitposter.

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    Evidence?

  • Jacob Waters

    Why is NicheGamer posting this opinion piece? What does it have to do with gaming in any way, shape, or form? This is a politically-charged opinion piece that just stands out as clickbait with that header and title, and isn’t what NicheGamer says it stands for when it comes to reporting.

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    How is this “clickbait”?

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    There’s been screen shots of his Twitter page floating around and I don’t really know if he’s still on the Dev team after he sold Minecraft to Microsoft but from the screenshot of him bitching about having nothing to do from having so much money or whatever; I doubt he’s still in.

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    [hyperlink?]

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    Public Masturbation will ruin your career.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    Its still embarrassing when a journalist who is barely scraping by is calling a self made billionaire like notch a loser for mocking feminists.

  • Jacob Waters

    Photoshopping a Nazi Propaganda-esque image for use with the header, along with “War on Gamers” which isn’t the focus of the post, is what says clickbait to me. Not your typical clickbait sure, I’d say it’s more “outrage for clicks”

  • Dewey Defeats Truman

    I agree 100% but that doesn’t change the fact that WSJ are attacking the guy. It isn’t like his sponsors saw his videos and went “hey cut that out,” they only pulled out after WSJ started a shitstorm and acted like the kid in fourth grade that’d snitch to the teacher when you said a cuss word.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    idk specifically, but I assume there is a demand by developers if whoever is orchestrating E3 is making an effort to invite more gamers.

  • Uncle Ocelot

    If Disney wants to have a family friendly image why did they hire Felix in the first place? His stuff has never been family friendly.

  • Pocketmarmots

    I hope y’all got permission on that thumbnail. Apparently, the chap who put it together got pretty miffed when Sargon used it for a video thumbnail.

  • Mr0303

    This is how you know the WSJ are not gamers – you don’t go to the most powerful boss straight away – you have to grind for a bit.

    This attack on PewDiePie will Red Pill quite a number of normies and will teach them to not trust the mainstream media.

  • Bitterbear

    It’s also happening to Milo. Looks like Simon & Schuster is cancelling the book deal.

    This is also a chilling effect. The media is simply stating this: Bow down to us, because if we can’t push sales, we are going to show you how we can destroy it.

  • catazxy

    Funny, I’ve never seen you commenting here before.
    You know that Pewbs is a gaming channel, do you?

  • buddyluv324

    But it’s the current year now. If someone doesn’t follow along your views, that means they’re a nazi.

    But joking aside, PewDiePie is a gaming channel on youtube. And as we’ve seen before mainstream media dont really look at gaming at a positive light anyhow.

  • ninjaclown

    Would “all of a sudden” sound better? I meant without obvious motive since neither PewDiePie or WSJ are direct competitors in the same industry.

  • Kiryu

    Ofcourse,because they are the ones in control.

  • Some dude

    This article makes me want to fire up twitter and send WSJ a photo of me thumbing my nose at them and march around my room chanting “We’re not gonna take it. ANYMORE”

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    Go search Twitter for Notch, shouldn’t be hard to find his real account.

  • CatCouch

    I’m pretty disgusted by how far journalists are going to tie gaming to Donald Trump and his politics. I’ve played games my whole life, went to school for gaming and work as a freelance artist having been inspired by game art. I love it.

    The amount of generalized hate against gaming as a whole is disconcerting. I voted for Hillary and generally don’t agree with Trump so I don’t like the implication I’m “alt right” for my gaming connection or because I support PewDiePie. Why is gaming considered alt right but no other form of entertainment is? Who decides that gaming is one big political movement, like it’s unanimous?

    The articles linked here are head scratching at the least.

  • Dale Frewaldt

    You aught to Google Milo real quick. His professional life is imploding at the moment and it’s going nuclear.

  • Please remember this is just an editorial on what I see. It is not a news post, we waited a full week to publish this to give it air. It is also stated that we shy away from stuff like this normally made the case for the Editorial as i felt the line MSM sites have crossed was to far when attacking our culture.

  • AuraMaster DX (austin9568)

    Well I recognize Paul Reubens, who’s the other smuck?

  • Jacob Waters

    Not commenting regularly doesn’t mean I don’t read.

  • Kessek

    Devs aren’t stupid. They need the gaming press (or rather their penchant for re-writing press releases)

  • Kessek

    Honesly all I know about him is that he put out a bunch of Happy Wheels videos and Five Nights stuff and screamed a lot through out. Kids love him. I’m not sure what other type of humor he does.

    Does seem like a prick lately.

  • Jacob Waters

    Not commenting regularly doesn’t mean I don’t read here, or follow.

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    k.

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    ok

  • He isn’t American.

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    Felix is Swedish

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    They don’t need them as much as they used to, people like Pewdiepie who stream new games have a far greater number of followers than the mainstream press.

  • Kelborne

    I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess the attention whore finally said something that backfired on him.

  • Dale Frewaldt

    Suffice it to say, he and Alison Rapp have similar views regarding the age of consent.

  • Kessek

    Yeah it’s awesome. Seems like mysoginy, racism, bigotry etc are ok.

    Pedophilia = nope.

  • RichardGristle

    Could Gen-Z actually really be /ourguy/? Will they save us as they sit back and view the Millennial shitstorm and realize how ridiculous it is?

  • GlacialSolace

    They have to poison the well with guilt by association quickly; however, this will likely also have an unintended side effect of red-pilling those who are now considered “alt-right” just for gaming. I’m just watching the MSM’s grasp on power fade and waiting for it to just die already. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/31bc04c1c025452920dab249841efadf8081060427fc599ad1aa51683466ee7a.gif

  • scemar

    Oh boy, yes.
    Gen Z is rebelling big time against the conditioning, not out of political interest but simply because it’s what’s become edgy now.

    Good job media, you made it being a law abiding person who respects others right to free speech and wants to have reliable sources of information edgy.

  • scemar

    oh they’re threatened but they have way to go but forward with their agenda, can’t admit they were wrong nope

    still funny when they do damage control

    changing the headlines from PEWDIEPIE WAS ALWAYS RACIST when they got backlash
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fe635bf7c1c4b7863bd7fcbce6af13c2ae69910c750a38e62e3a32ea7caf55f0.png

  • scemar

    If you ever wanted to commit to a stance, go all out with the truthbombs and tell it all like it is now is the time

    we’re at peak anti mainstream media rebellion zeitgeist and people are craving for it

  • scemar

    their strategy is not bad per se, it has worked for decades
    why do you think people always took for granted their lies?

    they always lied!

    the difference is that now the internet is letting people find out the truth on their own and enough people have come to realize they’ve been lied all along

    the current situation is the result of millions of innocents suddenly waking up to that realization and unplugging from the matrix at once

    that’s also why they want to introduce so much censorship to social media or regulate “news”, so they can go back to controlling information to hide the facts they don’t like from people

  • scemar

    yeah
    and nintendo is playing it right by cuckign them
    anytime I see them give an exclusive to a youtuber or organzie some guerilla event for people to see the switch and entirely ignore the media I smile

  • GlacialSolace
  • Bitterbear

    Nah, it’s more like Pedophilia = Nope¹.

    ¹Unless you’re a woman and/or Roman Polanski.

  • 100% noob

    I’ll be unoriginal and say what Chris Ray Gun had to say, the MSM is just mad they are becoming more and more irrelevant in this day and age, in fact the video that was released had many dislikes and barely any likes at all.

    WSJ’s video on Pewdiepie had many dislikes with very little views, and then Pewdiepie’s response had more likes than dislikes and had millions more views and not only that but even likes than the SJW, whoops WSJ’s video on pewdiepie, so it goes to show you how much people give no fucks about this fake news outlet.

  • Tubsiwub

    Wait, Trump was mentioned a fews time. Are we acting like he’s “under attack” as well?

  • Quetzalcoatl

    How is PDP still relevant. Jesus.

  • OzymandiasAeonis

    You mean the same gaming press that loves being their apologists and refused to take them to take for things like not having an account system for digital purchases? Some of the press wants them to fail and go third party but there is still a huge chunk that white knights for them and huge loads over them being special snowflakes no matter what they do.

  • COLLECTOR

    Shills cause thrills

  • COLLECTOR

    It’s fine if you identify as a gamer, but there’s no reason to hold this YouTube celebrity as the shining light that represents all gamers. The saddening thing is that this is not applicable to gamers, this is not an inclusive issue. Do you think the press wants citizens to even have truths? It is legitimate to post a half-truth as a posed truth through “valid sources”. The United States is a bi-partisan country. Your entire political system is stymied by two major parties, both of which have no interest in the everyday citizen. Young men and women are psychologically paced through the educational system on how to think, and are further pressed by both the media, and entertainment. I’m not theorizing, or working on a conspiracy theory. Capitalism no longer likes to hear its own faults, and even the press can’t seem to contain what is fact, or opinion. This is beyond just a YouTube celebrity. People are taking anything out of context. How is this not emotionally charged? “THE SJWS AT WSJ HURT PEWDIEPIE HE REPRESENTS US ALL!” What sort of mentality is that? Gamers should think independently, not in this groupthink where everyone piggybacks and those that are opposite the spectrum of thought get grinded for it because they aren’t going to agree. Sure, WSJ railed Pew, but he has a large fanbase, made up of younger individuals who are impressionable. To not think what he did was wrong, regardless of whether or not he was joking about Jews or Nazis, it was in poor judgement, and he suffered the consequences. When dungeons and dragons first emerged, players were often villanized as “satanists” or “devil worshippers” because they were roleplaying, and “casting spells”. When in reality it was friends playing a game and escaping reality and overcoming challenges together. There is nothing wrong with having an opinion, but when it is from a journalistic perspective, it carries more weight, and the verbiage used should be consistent with not using flagrant language that really loses the point of your piece completely.

  • Cubed Grapes
  • The SJW did as it is the only form of entertainment that stand up to the feminists.So that mean all gamers are thier enemy by their logic.

  • Quetzalcoatl

    Cuck by default then

  • Do the guy own Pewdiepie image?

  • Quetzalcoatl

    To this day people believe watching tv is better than gaming for a kid. Like doing nothing but taking idiot ideas from the telly is better than actually thinking and doing something with your brain.

  • You do know who pdp is right?

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    Why?

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    Nice rhyming

  • Cubed Grapes

    Congratulations on your new account and joining this site.

  • RichardGristle

    I don’t know that that’s true. In fact, I think almost everyone wants Nintendo to be good and successful. The problem is that they’ve let everyone down so often that they’ve become a meme.

  • He made rape jokes long before Disney hired him dude.

  • RichardGristle

    I may disagree with your politics, but I can completely agree with your thought process here. If the far left followed this brand of calm and stable logic then they wouldn’t have alienated and discredited moderate liberals so badly.

  • RichardGristle

    I like that you pointed out how it’s a subjective, op-ed/opinion piece but then immediately rant about journalism ethics and how biased “news” has no place on the site.

    3/10 made me reply.

  • VLOCKUP

    Yeah, I believe you when you are aware of this being “Editorial Piece” disclaimer.

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    What the fuck is with the downvotes?

    Pfft, truthiness?

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    Mainly the mainstream news media are the ones that talk trash about Nintendo’s video games.

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    lol

  • RichardGristle

    Calling everyone you disagree with a “nazi” is a phenomenon directly related to the libel thrown at Trump supporters in the last 6 months.

  • RichardGristle

    Well he’s the largest YouTuber and he happens to be gaming-oriented, so it kinda makes sense. Literally the entire games industry has been talking about the “incident”.

  • Kosac07

    Amen brotha!

  • scemar

    maybe that’s why he’s broken the conditioning
    he’s seen what happens when policies are decided by people with an ideology of censoring opposing views

    he’s seen what happens when there is no argument, instead people just throw out labels to those that disagree

    it can’t be easy being swedish and watching your country commit national suicide

  • scemar

    yeah, being blissfully ignorant is totally working for society am I right?
    disregard politics, they’re so lame

    oh wait, where did my games go? what happened to the media? how did everything catch flames while I was playing and not caring? whoops

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    BS

  • Kosac07

    Social commentary, watered down Filthy Frank skits and reactions are his main focus lately (~1 year). He still does playthroughs from time to time, like RE7 and The Last Guardian.

  • scemar

    let’s analyze this scenario

    a FAKE NEWS site declares him NAZI, not true, no evidence of it, no argument is made, they just accuse him of it

    follow up-investors quit him, their justification is the branding that has been made

    you do know without money nothing remains alive right?
    so effectively, they’re trying to destroy his channel, luckily he already has enough money to live well and he did it for passion not for money, so he’ll keep it up

    but basically if “random slander” justifies “investors quit” that means anyone who owns a FAKENEWS site has the power to shut down anyone else

    they targeted the guy at the top first, next they’d target the ones below and so on

    and that seems ok to you?

    this is an obvious case of an easy exploit
    in gaming terms, if this is allowed, it becomes the meta
    slander someone > investors pull > financial death

    that could be done to anyone

  • Kessek

    Ignoring the parallels between Hitler and Trump’s rise to power would be foolish.

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    New Felix is better than the old Felix.

  • Travis Touchdown

    People put on a facade of wanting to see Nintendo do well. However, they constantly do nothing but complain and whine about everything they do.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    I never heralded Pewdiepie as a leader, but he still represents gamers who are not emotionally compromised, which was why he had the freedom to make a crass joke in the first place. Whether or not you liked the joke is completely subjective, the point is that he shouldn’t have to tone himself down because others might get their feelings hurt. If you’re worried about your kids, then do your job as a parent and don’t let them watch, hes already said plenty that ruin his rep as a kid entertainer anyways(rape jokes, swearing…etc), so this joke was nothing surprising. Its not a fair market when most of Pewdiepie’s fans laughed at the joke and supported him while he was unfairly being attacked, it would only be a true Capitalist fair market if the people themselves revolted against him, its more communistic when the establishment approved press tries to act like the authority figure of media, despite the people pleading otherwise.

    Don’t try to turn this into a false equivalence fallacy. When we expose the facts about the mainstream press demonizing independent people and outlets because of their own fear of their increasing irrelevancy, that has nothing to do with any kind of emotional bias. This is not the same as spreading lies in an attempt to ruin someone’s life in order to control the narrative, which the press does to this day, such as calling Pewdiepie a Nazi leader.

  • COLLECTOR

    I’m well aware that this is an editorial, but you’re just adding to a festering story. This isn’t even about videogames, Pewdiepie hasn’t changed. It’s fine if you want to be defensive on your stance, but at this point the entire story around him has just gone out of proportion. The idea that WSJ even considered writing a piece on him is ridiculous.

  • Carl_Ed

    How dare someone make a comment about someone else’s comment on the internet. It’s all a conspiracy, I tells you.

  • Carl_Ed

    Well, the OpEd above is no less a piece of shill hysteria than the WSJ piece it’s responding too, so I’m not sure what you were trying to achieve by it aside from prehaps venting some steam.

    Talk about PDP’s situation from both sides of the aisle seem completely lacking in nuance and proportionality. Rather than simply being a case where an entertainer made some jokes in rather poor taste and gets quietly taken aside and advised to pull it back a little, you end up with a situation where it gets used as ammuntion in the culture war between enraged ideologues, looking for their martyred saints and nefarious heretics, both seeing themselves as wholy good and true, and the other as leading to the downfall of civilization. It sure would be nice if we had more adults in the room.

  • CommanderZx2

    This guy from WSJ has made loads of Holocaust and racist jokes on his twitter in the past.
    http://archive.is/XqGRl
    http://archive.is/vOpdh
    http://archive.is/C1mBa

  • David Curry

    It doesn’t help the media megaconglomerates that Gen Z has NEVER watched television. That’s only slight hyperbole, but they have zero attachment to TV, while online celebrities made a stronger impression on their upbringing. The media is in for a very rude awakening in a few years when a large chunk of the voting and purchasing population doesn’t want or need them around anymore.

  • David Curry

    That sentiment is fading as more adults who were born and raised around video games get older and enter senior roles in corporations and government.

  • Sean Sharpe

    It seems a bit disingenuous to act like this is “our” struggle. While gamers, like members of any other subculture, do share a sense of community because of common interests, we’re all ultimately individuals. Yet even as a collective, this whole controversy doesn’t concern “us” in the slightest.

    PewDiePie is a public figure, who made an offensive joke, and while I don’t think there was any real malice behind it, his delivery was shit. People got upset, his owners at Disney slapped him on the wrist… And that’s about it. He’s still worth more than any of us and he’s riding this noise as a means of promotion. All you’re doing is giving everyone involved more attention…

    Don’t get me wrong, though. I’m totally in favor of gamers, even humanity as a whole, to stop being so damned focused on ourselves but if you really want to change the view of the world on gamers, maybe instead of encouraging people to take part in this stupid fucking culture war that we all seem to care about every twenty years or so you should encourage people to put down the controller and donate their time at the local soup kitchen… Or even cut back and just by the standard version of a game, rather than the collector’s edition they’ve been looking forward and donate the difference to their local food bank.

    Seems to me, that’d do more for “us” than anything else. But hey, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe, this stupid fucking culture war bullshit is what really matters and in order to be a gamer, I should think more like *you*.

  • Sean Sharpe

    There’s quite a few women who fucked teenage boys and went to jail for it.

    So… “Pedophila = Nope, unless you’ve got some degree of wealth, power, or influence to protect yourself from it…”

  • Sean Sharpe

    Every single subculture gets shit on, though. I mean as someone who spent a big chuck of his life into punk rock and heavy metal music, I got a lot of shit for that… Ditto for playing video games and table-top role-playing.

    Video gamers are the only subculture I know that gives a shit what people say.

  • Alistair

    Is that the reason, you dont cover the CON leaks, pizzagate that apparently is true as there have been arreests on a CP ring.

    I hate the media and regressions fueled agenda like the next man/woman, but you cant cherry pick your articles, because that what they did.

    SJWs doesn’t see the bigger picture, they take small cherry pick and use it against you. WSJ cherry pick of pewdiepie vid with other vids he done and put it like a jigsaw to use against him.

    That why we cant reason with them and keep calling out their bullshit.

    The fact Ben and Rolfe made twatter account into private is damage control. It a rare form of censorship because they basically stop people comments to them.

  • Alistair

    The MSM has now even more been irrelevant, i dont see the media will ever die out.

    But however new blood is needed. What trump did was the same outcome briexit did.

    People had enother of the old guard, and give the govt a bloody nose. By voting to leave EU. on a mega background of benefits cuts and other factors.

  • Alistair

    Been a good year all right, the same regressions bullshit political correct into games and other media like marvel comics and playboy.

    Now both had U-Turn and decided to go back what they do best.

    The same is happening again. That people will have the last say. They know they fucked up with gamers and anybody else over the years and being irrelevant so they decided to fight it out.

  • Alistair

    They been attacking our culture for years, i think it reach nuclear point when ecchi games come out before gamergate even started.

    And they follow though onwards with another ecchi title in they sight on dead and alive extreme 3, and been snow balling ever since with trump.

    Wasn’t WSJ critical of certain games then?.

  • Alistair

    I think it is relevant, as pewdiepie is a gamer and stream games on YouTubes ecchi ones too.

    And we know what SJWs MSM think of games and gamers a like. It doesn’t change the fact that gamergate happen, and constant attacks by the media.

    If trump didnt win, and Felix wasn’t a gamer and didnt stream games the WSJ Wouldn’t attack him.

    If Clinton had won, remember she against games too. That any regressions loath then the MSM Wouldn’t attack Felix as much.

    Any attempt to censor a game, censor people views, name calling by the media is relevant as NG does cover games that are being censored too in the past.

    And censorship is only given if influence is involved.

  • HolyNiwa (ホーリーニワ)

    Man, i don’t always comment on nichegamer comment section, but that paragraph is absolutely fabulous. 10/10 would read again.

  • thevaliant x

    Pewdiepie is one of the “most inoffensive gamers” on youtube? That has to be the lamest attempt at sarcasm, ever. He’s an incredibly offensive dude (I never thought it was possible for someone to come out of their mother’s butthole), the worst I’ve ever seen on YouTube. Why would Disney align with that turd in the first place? Wow, Disney has really fallen on hard times.

  • JPDL

    If you think that’s offensive, oh boy you’ve got a world out there to discover

  • Bitterbear

    Or if you’re a British woman who committed the crime in the UK.

  • Only underaged people are obsessed with these video game youtube celebrities. Who gives a shit just play video games.

  • Crizzyeyes

    You guys know that Milo was talking about his own childhood in that video right? 10 years ago that interview would have been brave and stunning according to the same people detracting from him now. When Milo was talking about how it might be a good thing when a 17 year old boy is in a relationship with a 29 year old man, he was talking about his own relationship that he had because he didn’t have anyone from his family to be there. Turns out gay pepple frequently have fucked up lives, who would’ve guessed?

  • ProxyDoug

    Like both are literally white men.
    LITERALLY HITLER CONFIRMED!

  • DrearierSpider

    It’s very ironic too, considering how many developers are left leaning to one degree or another. Even when Gamergate was going on, a poll showed most who were part of the movement considered themselves liberal. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if a few of them moved to Trump due to the batshit insanity from the regressive left lately.

  • DrearierSpider

    And now they’re doing the same shit to Milo, trying to claim he supports pedos. These vultures are the worst society has to offer.

  • Hiecchi

    Who is Milo and what have he done?

  • Marc Duarte

    Milo’s a prominent gay conservative who constantly speaks out against the liberals and their agenda. No surprise he’s considered a big target.

  • I just saw this, and this reminds me why I love our comment section.

    Well played sir.

  • UnpluggedBeta

    Just wanted to play vidya, but now you lot are forced into a political revolution fighting against ancient satanic powers trying to force videogames into becoming depression quest.

    What a timeline!

  • DeplorableBoss

    I made many of the same points you did here in my “war on geek/gamer culture” video I did last September. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPVcmJ7wd0U

  • Snorlaxation

    he wasn’t quite careful enough. He chose to try and satirize it all with his sub par ‘comedian’ skills, and got shafted for it.
    However he’s only partially to blame for the backlash and problems he helped cause.

    The washington post royally fucked up by taking out of context shit and pewds own satirical nonsense and tried making him out to be some kind of Actual Villain, and that’s bullshit. They should never have been able to get away with it. Just because television and whatnot are dying breeds, doesn’t mean they should just pull stuff like this.

  • Jacob Waters

    I think there’s some confusion here.

    Editorials aren’t op-eds. An editorial reflects the opinion and stance of the site as a whole, whereas an op-ed is the opinion of a writer. Sites generally separate this because of those definitions.

  • Benjamin Stanley

    Normally I would agree however being gay and being a possible pedophile are two completely different things. Milo might fall into the latter category. Please do not group LGBTQ people in with that sicko.

  • Benjamin Stanley

    Milo is possibly a pedo. His words on the matter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJhHwspZGcg

  • Benjamin Stanley

    >It can’t be easy being Swedish and watching your country commit national suicide.

    I am pretty sure that America and pretty much every other western country at the moment. Not just Sweden.

  • Benjamin Stanley

    Yeah I can agree with this :)

  • Benjamin Stanley
  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    Look up “Kony 2012”. If I remember correctly, he was getting everyones support against an African warlord before he blew it with a load in public.

  • Marc Duarte

    As if I’d trust anything coming from the lamestream media. It’s obviously nothing more than a smear job. Milo is no more a pedophile than Trump is a molester of women. As usual, they just used an edited tape to try to portray him as such. I find it ironic since libturds have such a fondness for all things homosexual.

  • Benjamin Stanley

    The thing is Milo said shit that is appalling and he is getting a pass on that from his followers. If Milo is a pedo I think he should be in a jail cell. Normalizing child abuse is not OK in my book.

    As for the whole libturd thing. I find that kinda Ironic. I am a conservative who is absolutely disgusted by Milo and his comments about pedophilia. Milo has actively worked against the LBGTQ community.

    Last thing – This did not come from the Main Street Media as you claim. It came from internet podcasts that Milo was a part of. The main street media just covered them when people brought them to their attention a year or so later.

    Have a great day Marc.

  • scemar

    the milo thing isn’t over what he went through, or what he said
    it’s just a classic organized media attack

  • Zero Eternity

    Sounds like a bad vidya plot XD

  • Zero Eternity

    I feel like we have only started to care because the creators of video games have started to fall in line with the “this is bad you should think this way viewpoint” from vocal people on social media. No one really likes when their viewpoint is attacked, and to see the people that created the stuff you liked and bought from them, go the complete reversal of mindset where they denounce all they did previously and what others are doing as bad and somehow morally wrong agitates people.

    We probably wouldn’t give a crap if developers just said fuck it and kept doing what they do business wise instead of trying to cater to all of the public’s personal opinions even if those people probably don’t buy their wares anyway. I think it has become worrisome to people and thus we get online and commiserate like men at a bar having drinks talking shit about their day knowing that very little can be done directly.