8-Year Fan Project Pokemon Prism Gets Shut Down by Nintendo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEaUQJP_p1A

Nintendo lawyers have been quite busy this year shutting down fan-made projects, and now they’ve struck yet again at another long-running fan game.

The game, Pokemon Prism, has been cancelled and effectively shut down, following a notice sent to the creator via Nintendo.

Pokemon Prism has been cancelled,” wrote Adam ‘Koolboyman’, the sole developer on the project in a Facebook post. “Thank you all for your support throughout the years. I’m sorry it ended like this. I will make a longer statement regarding this soon, but expect this page to be shutdown in a few days.”

The game was in development for roughly eight years and nearly days before its final official launch, on December 25th. Featured above, you can view a trailer showcasing what the fan-made game was bringing to the table.

Published with the announcement was a document that is allegedly from Nintendo’s Australian legal team. The note points out both Pokémon Prism and Pokémon Brown as violating Nintendo’s intellectual property rights, setting forth a demand that Adam “immediately cease any further work on this game.”

“Nintendo understands that you are a fan of its original products and its Pokémon franchise,” the letter reads. “Whilst this is appreciated, it unfortunately does not alter Nintendo’s important role to ensure that all of its valuable intellectual property is fully protected and that there is no use made of any of its intellectual property rights without proper supervision and authorisation.”

In order to avoid legal trouble, Adam has to not only cancel Pokémon Prism, he’s also being ordered to remove all downloads from his website, as expected. The website now displays a link to the legal notice, and a short thank you to his fans.

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  • Fear Me I Am Free

    Yeah, this makes people like you even less Nintendo. This is just like AMR2.

    I’d finish it and put that shit on a torrent website.

  • Malcolm_Ecks

    Nintendo sucks for this, but I frankly don’t know why people keep making fan-made projects based off their stuff anymore.

    I think had they not named it Pokemon they could have completed the game and put it out.

  • John Smith.

    Well, it’s their copyrighted and trademarked franchise so they can do stuff like this no matter how much people hate them for it.

  • totenglocke

    Take the game, rename it to PissoffNintèndomon, post it online. Maybe change the names of the critters too.

  • NukeA6

    This wouldn’t be such a huge problem for me if Nintendo wasn’t censor happy up the ass. Better emulate that Mother 3 because you know the NoA version is probably gonna be “family friendly” for the butthurt.

    So…… has AM2R (Metroid 2 remake) have any update since 1.1?

  • Michael Richardson

    Actively antagonize your most devoted fans months before the launch of your new console.

    EXCELLENT strategy.

  • DoubleTap

    Welp there goes the only Pokemon related thing I was hopeful for this year.

    First fangames, now romhacks. Watch out fan-transaltion community, you’re next on Nintendo’s chopping block. At least sega is embracing the fangame and romhacking community now.

  • DrearierSpider

    I don’t know who I’m more disappointed in: Nintendo or the fans retarded enough to announce/showcase these projects prior to release. People should know by now to stealth launch these fan games, especially with Nintendo.

  • DrearierSpider

    They really can’t now, unless they want to be dragged into court by a multi-billion dollar company.

  • Casey

    I would like to know why Nintendo, Vivendi, Square and other fuckfarts like them have to cease and desist everything to death to “protect their IP”, when Sega lets hundreds of people make fan games, and somehow, magically, they never lost the rights to Sonic, Streets of Rage, Ristar, etc.

    Maybe this talk about “protecting their IP”, is just the obvious horseshit it sounds like.

  • DrearierSpider

    Better yet, work on it without telling anyone and stealth launch it once it’s done. Nothing they can do once it’s out in the wild.

  • DoubleTap

    Sega truly does what Nintendon’t

  • sanic

    They can do what they want with their properties and I’m free to think of them as colossal cunts for it, I’ll remind people of this when the Nintendo switch launches.

  • Captain Vidya

    So no fan works of any kind is what I’m getting from Nintendo this year. Project M, A2MR, Uranium and now Prism/Brown. I’m pretty sure SMBX was got by Nintendo at some point, too. What’s next, all SMB/SMB3/SMW romhacks get taken down?

  • Sean Sharpe

    Sega shut down the Streets of Rage fan project though. And they have a history of even killing Let’s Plays… Of games that aren’t even trying to make money on. People forget that Sega’s done a lot of shitty things until they fucked Sonic so bad they went to fans to fix it.

  • Cuyler Stuwe

    Because those companies are successful financially and Sega isn’t.

  • Captain Vidya

    From what I recall, the Streets of Rage thing was because they were going to sell them on phones or something, and I’m pretty sure the Let’s Play thing was from someone who works/worked on the Shining series that was upset or whatever.

  • Sean Sharpe

    I will never understand fan projects like this in the first place. It’s like the rare piece of novel-length fan fiction you see. At that point, with all the time and energy you put into it, why not just do your own thing?

    I mean, on one hand, Nintendo is shitty for shutting this shit since it most likely won’t really hurt their sales…

    On the other, I find it really hard to feel bad for the people involved since they using someone else’s shit to do their own thing. I mean, it’s not like a good “clone” game can’t get attention in its own right. Axiom Verge is Metroid and Stardew Valley is Harvest Moon… Why can’t this shit be its own thing?

  • bgrunge

    No, the project would be “leaked” by a “former tester” not involved with the devs. So to sue the devs after that, Nintendo would have to prove they lnowingly leaked it, but they simply couldn’t. It’s like how they didnt sue after that huge chronotrigger mod fan sequel got leaked and continued after the big N shut it down.

  • Koroma

    That video doesn’t work

  • Tyrone Jackson

    What a douchey company. They are easily at the point of EA or Activision at this point.

  • When will the guys behind cool looking fan projects finally realize that they shouldnt post youtube trailers for their games weeks or months before their games are done and shared already to hundreds of thousands of people that will continue to spread them.

  • Sigma

    Sega Europe shut down Streets of Rage Remake

  • Sigma

    I don’t even care any more. I’ll cross the line when Nintendo puts DRM on the Swtich. At this point I just want to play Nintendo games again.

  • ActivistZero

    While it does’nt change the fact that it was a scumbag move, could they not have waited til after it was released before DnC’ing it.

    Also a few follow-up questions
    How public was the promotion for this project?, cause if it was very public, they brought this on themselves
    Was it Nintendo alone who done this, or was it on behalf of The Pokemon Company?, just to make sure blame is placed where it’s due

    Just wanna know all the facts

  • ActivistZero

    Nintendo could’nt shut it down anyway since Chrono Trigger is not their IP, it’s Square Enix’s, if we are gonna call out companies for this, let’s atleast place blame where it belongs

  • InkViper

    It was Nintendo of Australia’s legal team, so who knows how trigger-happy they are compared to other divisions.
    It’s not like Nintendo of America where they gave the A2MR guy 48 hours grace after launch, allegedly.

  • Didney Worl

    Just another friendly reminder that Nintendo has just about killed off all of the goodwill they established with their fans over the years. I miss Iwata. This never happened when he was still alive and running the company.

  • ActivistZero

    I have no idea about Australian IP law, so I’m not sure if they could have given them a grace period, with the way US IP law works they could feign ignorance to it’s exsistance before having to shut it down.

    God IP laws are in serious need of updating

  • Arenegeth

    “I will never understand fan projects like this in the first place. It’s
    like the rare piece of novel-length fan fiction you see. At that point,
    with all the time and energy you put into it, why not just do your own
    thing?”

    A lot of people have made this argument when it comes to these types of fangames.

    What you all fail to realize, is that these amateur developers idolize the games and sometimes companies these fangames are based on, which is why these games resemble a ‘monument’ to the IP as it were, is their main drive for going ahead with such a project to begin with.

    Is also why they usually capitulate so easily to legal threads. And I don’t just mean removing content based on a Cease and Deceit as they should or they’ll get in trouble, but the whole ‘senpai has noticed us’ attitude they have about it.

    Like this guy for instance could easily slip the title out in a couple of months, since it looks like it was pretty much complete and the Nintendo lawyers can’t do much about it, in fact they don’t actually want to take a fangame to court, it will be really bad PR for Nintendo to literally jail or fine fans and it will hit mainstream news, that’s why they just threaten them to submission. If the game gets ‘leaked’ however, there’s nothing they can do about it.

    But anyway, point is these guys are in love with the IP, the fact that they are making a game based on it is what really drives them, that’s why they can’t just put some effort to turn it to something original instead. If you think about it, its a form of worship.

  • InkViper

    I’m not sure if IP laws in general need to be updated, they are there to protect the solo content creator as much as for big corporations. Any revisions would have to take both sides into consideration.

    And to shed a little more light on the A2MR situation, the rumor that was going around for a few people in the know, was someone from NCL took a liking to the project, and allegedly called in a favor, which allowed the project to go live for 48 hours before it was shut down. Of course it’s all supposed to just be rumors, but who knows.

  • ActivistZero

    I meant updating to set in stone where fan projects stand (like where to draw the line of what is allowed to be produced, if it’s legal to make so long as you offer it for free), don’t forget, these laws were made before Radio was a thing.

    That being said I can see your point, the law would have to consider big companies as well as individual creators

  • Jumanji Joe

    This is why you don’t advertise your fan project while in development. Advertise right as you put it up for download.

  • Muten

    Can someone explain to me how this shut downs by companies work? can the guy just continue development quietly and release the project anonymously?

    P.D: I hope i didnt offend anyone by my comment. Please dont ban me.

  • Nagato

    Makes some sense here given that Prism is likely to be used as the name for Sun and Moon’s third version.

  • Nagato

    Oh please, as if anyone still on board with Nintendo at this point could possibly ever be scared away.

  • DrearierSpider

    Hey, I’d love for something like that to happen. But that’s a big gamble, and they could still end up spending years fighting it in court.

  • InkViper

    I understand your concern, but here is a different perspective, there are ways of getting around it, such as classifying it as parody. However this extends to things such as static art, music or film, not software. The problem with software, is from a possible legal position of interpreting what software is, there isn’t a difference between a videogame (metal gear solid- seen as a work of art) and a spreadsheet program (seen as a accountant tool), there both executable programs that work on a computer system, they have a set number of inputs, a variable number of internal operations resulting from the inputs, and a set number of outputs from the internal workings of the program. In essence a fan made videogame is still a program, legally speaking, and therefore most likely not protected by any additions to IP or copyright law that deals with works of parody. This would make it nearly impossible to use that as a defense, as well as the additional problem that if software could also be protected under the parody defense. It could open up the situation where non-videogame software programs could also be exploited. I.e. a one dollar Photoshop clone, dressed up as a work of parody of the original, but for all intensive purposes is a fully working version of the software.

    Additional points, fair use would also not qualify, as this would require using assets from the original program, which are even more heavily protected.

    The same goes for educational use, as the prime legal description for the videogame is software. And secondary descriptions such as entertainment or educational purposes aren’t necessarily taking into account.

    You would also have the additional problem that IP and copyright law would have to be implemented unilaterally across all territories as well as internationally, if a solution to the problem could genuinely be found, and that would be a task bigger than finding a solution to the current issues that are found in the law with IP and copyright as it currently stands.

  • Hampton D. Evans

    Sadly, that “protecting their IP” thing isn’t bullshit. Under the incredibly confusing and stupid Copyright laws, if they don’t protect it in EVERY instance they’re aware of, their ability to protect it in other cases becomes next to impossible. They don’t shut down smaller stuff because they either don’t know or it is small enough that, legally speaking, they can’t be held to have known. In this case, Prism was killed by its own popularity.

  • lalorobot

    It’s a lot harder to work on something for 8 years without knowing if people will even like it though.

  • Guest

    He’s responsible for the project, so if they see it being distributed and that he’s involved in any way, they’re legally obligated to protect their IP and sue him into the stone age. You copyright something, you have to protect it or you set a precedent and you lose those protections. They would have had to give it an official endorsement, or take it down, and Nintendo’s not going to give some random guy on the internet their official endorsement for a project attached to one of their biggest IPs.

  • dogmentation

    The ideal comeback would be to take that work and roll it into an original “Monster Collecting” game, one legally distinct from Nintendo’s IP, that could actually be sold for profit. The best revenge is success, as they say.

    Hell, with Pokemon turning into Yokai Watch, it wouldn’t be hard to capture the 2d retro market, especially if your target demographic is PC/mobile players who don’t want to buy a 3DS. And when Nintendo wants a piece of that Shovel Knight/Cave Story console port pie, you can tell them to fuck right off.

  • Kiryu

    Nintendo doing their favorite hobby.

  • Muten

    So the answer is always develop this type of projects anonymously, they dont know who you are, and you can create several dummy personas all over the place, or send the code/game to a guy from south america or something, good luck suing that dude, most countries there dont have laws about this type of stuff.

    I appreciate the reply btw.

  • Uncle Ocelot

    Nintendo shuts down fan projects and the sun will rise tomorrow. Who would’ve thought?

  • Casey

    Dude, there’s NO WAY sega doesn’t know about the sonic fangames. They hired a well known fan game creator to not only port their games to mobile, but also to make Sonic Mania! There are entire events around showcasing sonic fangames. FFS, when AMR2 got shut down, the official Sonic the Hedgehog twitter account took a jab at nintendo and blatantly said “Keep making great stuff, Sonic fans.”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/45c47fa9326a795f0922f3395824f12e6f888d265a641b417a320c948df55878.jpg

    It’s all fucking lies and excuses so the legal teams that work for these companies can look like they’re earning their paycheck and jackasses can keep defending this shit.

  • catazxy

    Another day in nintendo land. If you can think of something shitty, nintendo already did it.

  • Joe Schmoe

    Typically, I’m sympathetic, but these morons just wanted to cock tease the release with a fucking twitch stream months ago and setting a hard release date.
    Anyone making a nintendo fan project nowadays should know better.
    Release it first, then build the hype, and hope it spreads far enough before they shut it down.

    Shame, cause this really was a neat one. Did the final version get leaked out before shut down?

  • Casey

    The streets of rage game was in 2011. After the Shining force debacle, they’ve ceased their claims against LP’s. Hell, if you download the sega genesis collection on steam, they actually have fangames available through the steam marketplace. I don’t know why, but new Sega has been very hands off when it comes to legal bullshit as of late.

  • Casey

    The whole reason they chose to make a game based on pokemon was because they knew people would like it.

  • Casey

    Not to mention for some people it leads to a job, or like the Black Mesa guys where their game is now being sold on steam.

  • TrojanHorse711

    For clarification, since Brandon forgot or neglected to mention it: the project in question was a ROM hack, not a full fledged fan game like AM2R and Pokémon Uranium.

  • Uncle Slick

    If only he used custom assets.

  • Uncle Slick

    Including not having hardware anymore.

  • Bitterbear

    It’s horseshit because they have to give the illusion of competence to their masters who sit atop the tallest ivory towers, oblivious to what is going on around them.

  • Bitterbear

    Did you saw the ad for the Switch? It screams landwhale social fantasy dreamland.

  • DoubleTap

    Honestly, being Software only and having access to multiple platforms is better than producing weak hardware with barely any third party support that only moves because stagnating first party IPs.

  • Uncle Slick

    Instead of hating on a company because it’s hip, I love both Sega and Nintendo.

    I like to play games. Even those “stagnating” IPs.

    Also, weak hardware never determined game quality. I’d rather play Chrono Cross on PS1 over FFXV on PS4.

    Why? Because the game is better.

  • Γεώργιος Αρχαιοκαπηλίδης

    And nothing of value has been lost.

  • Γεώργιος Αρχαιοκαπηλίδης

    “Bu hu hu! A company shuts down a fan-made game. Let’s boycott their games!”

    Why do I have the impression that people who made comments like don’t even buy Nintendo games?

  • Eighto

    I’m sure it’ll be leaked somewhere, so we’ll get it eventually. Hopefully.

  • DoubleTap

    I’m not hating Nintendo because it’s “hip”, I’m hating nintendo because they’ve been nothing but a disappointment for the past generation. The only two IPs they haven’t turned into a mediocre mess are Donkey Kong and Animal Crossing (which is really hard to fuck up).

    Everything else is either easier than before, has more handholding than before, somehow more heavily censored than before, has worse localization choices than before, worse level designs, less content and so on.

    Now they pick of the worst traits from the modern game industry; DLC, Physical DLC, Season Passes, region locking, refusing to do crossbuy for virtual console titles and now going full force with the C&Ds

    They were never perfect, but now they’ve gone too far into the dark side and fanboys are too willing to give them a free pass. They could announce the Switch having paid online and you’d see “well the other guys do it, so it’s fine”.

    And you’re right; Weak hardware never determines what the quality of the game will be. But it can affect it and we’ve already seen it multiple times from Nintendo; every single mainline pokemon game on the 3DS were borderline slideshow simulators. It’s also one of the main reason why Nintendo keeps losing 3rd party support.

    I like games, I still enjoy games and I have many games in the future I’m looking forward to. But not from Nintendo; they damaged their own quality and brand.

  • EroBotan

    it’s justified, Street of Rage Remake use all stolen assets both sprites & music from the original game

  • EroBotan

    i’m guessing it’s more because Street of Rage remake steals sprites & music from the ofiicial game? Because even in japan where doujin rules are lenient you will guaranteed to get Cease & decease if you steal stuff. Golden Axe myth which use original assets is created around the same time and it never get any Cease & decease

  • Zombie_Barioth

    No, more likely than not its all down to plausible deniability.

    That would be why its usually more well-known projects that get taken down, they become too big to be able pretend “they didn’t know”.

    A while back somebody asked, I think it was Masuda about fan games, and he straight-up said he can’t talk about that stuff, but he likes a lot of it.

    Copyright might also be more lenient than other IP laws, but they still can’t cherry-pick what’s allowed. In SEGA’s case they apparently allow anything and everything.

  • Zombie_Barioth

    In this case, I’m pretty sure Nintendo actually owns the names used. They’ve trademarked a bunch of possible fake names in the past.

  • Kengofu

    The unfortunate reality here is that some companies are just straight up too big for all the pieces of the machine to know what the others are doing. Especially an entity like Nintendo, which has several, global legal departments, each of which only answer to heads of their respective departments and regional heads. It’s kind of a mess, but things like this usually come down to legal having their heads up their own asses, while the actual developers and the major, overall publisher don’t care in the slightest.

  • EroBotan

    he’s also taken down the video, I can’t see it

  • orbo

    Honestly I’ve never even heard of this game until yesterday and I’m not entirely sure why people are so up in arms about these fangames getting shut down in a series that already gets new releases regularly.
    Not to say that eight years of work on it going down the toilet doesn’t suck big time, but I’m baffled to why people were so looking forward to it in the first place.

    Unlike am2r and the metroid series which hasn’t gotten a respectable release in around a decade, pokemon gets a new mainline game every few years and is pretty much the most popular video game series on the planet next to mario. (maybe even more than mario at this point)
    I’m more surprised nintendo didn’t send a swat team of high priced lawyers at them and the uranium team years ago.

  • RonnieBarzel

    Considering Sega’s financial condition, I’m not sure pointing at them as someone to emulate when it comes to business is the smart call.

  • BaronKrause

    If nintendo didn’t lock down a few specific IP’s to their own hardware, Nintendo wouldn’t have hardware anymore either (since no one actually WANTS to use it).

  • edge

    I was happy, and then sad.

  • edge

    lol, it was a very hipster commercial, but it will probably do well enough on Nintendo fans alone.

  • Uncle Slick

    Nobody WANTed to use a PS4, they just wanted to play Bloodborne.

    If you think like that, every game should just be on PC.

  • BaronKrause

    Sure there were, I love PC but some people simply don’t want to/aren’t up to the task of fucking with settings and just want to pop in a disk and play on the couch. Nintendo comparatively to other consoles makes total pieces of shit.

    Sure consoles to high end PC’s are also total pieces of shit, but they don’t really occupy the same user base.

  • BaronKrause

    I cant believe people are stupid enough to make fan made projects and not wait till its 100% finished and on the net before going public.

    This was 8 years of stupidity.

  • Anon630

    ‘Tis the season! Another fresh idea that the publishers are too spoiled to make on their own now have no choice but to swing the ban hammer at anyone who isn’t. I’m not going to say that the fans involved are innocent- it’s thanks to spreading the good word of copyrighted content before it’s finished that they wind up in situations where their hard work is shut down. I sometimes wonder why fans even bother. Is it because they want a job working in the industry? Surely they couldn’t be foolish enough each and every time to shoot their loads early for no good reason.

    In the case of Squenix, it’s funny! They shoot down fan projects all over the place, and they don’t even have the competency to make good games themselves. Nintendo refuses to break away from the mold and rehash everything eternally, yet both of these companies slam any decent fan that can flash talents brighter than they can. The worst part about all of this is that I can’t imagine any company rising to their spot in the industry. They often squat on IPs merely because they own them even if they don’t do anything with them. It feels as though nobody can innovate and even the indie market is merely copying off of each others success. The only thing that fills the void of what fans want gets shut down by legal action.

  • larverto365

    I play Nintendo, and even I’m baffled by this.

  • larverto365

    inb4 travis

  • As if Treehouse mandated censoring isn’t bad enough…

  • >Valuable intellectual properties
    Pokemon is fucking worthless, it’s just hundreds of garbage OC sprites in a shitty, generic JRPG with braindead combat, that’s the reason so many people make lookalikes! How do they not understand that their “crown jewel” of handhelds has the depth of a flash porno game?

    Useless Nintendo just can’t declare bankruptcy fast enough I guess. If they aren’t selling it, and it’s not just a ROM of Pokemon Whatever Version, then it’s obviously fair use. As far as I know, Nintendo, in their attempt to apply Japanese law to every other country, has just been breaking copyright law for years now, filing fraudulent claims and illegally seizing the work of other people. so why the hell haven’t we just dropped a third nuke already? At the very least, fine these corporate losers for everything they have.

  • FreshSnug

    Nintendo’s fans will like Nintendo no matter what they do.

  • LOL!, they even did take down the youtube video on this article.

    Nintendo: The Arrogance and Disrespect of an Anti-Consumer Company

  • Chocolate ISISCream

    They’re doing what a business should originally be doing, which is protecting their IP. This has no effect on my likeness of Nintendo, and I’ll still be purchasing a Switch. Come January, we will see Nintendo announcing actual games from IPs that we’ve always wanted, and I’d rather have that then some fanmade trash.

  • Cats736

    This^

    Should have learned from all the other games they shut down.

  • Cats736

    Would still be shut down.

  • Now this might be a stupid thought, but this got me wondering. Most fangame devs never really share their real life addresses and/or names. Probably the farthest they’d go is naming a country/province/state/city/etc, but no specifics. They could even use a service to redirect who owns the domain to whatever website hosts their game website to another address. I bring this up because if Nintendo ever wants to get serious on someone, and they knew the devs physical address, and the dev outright disobeyed the C&D, they’d send an physical subpoena to the dev’s house and got to court.

    Now defying the C&D would of course mean official websites disappearing, accounts suspended, links to files taken down, and all that jazz. But those are quite easy to rectify and restore… if only for a very short amount of time before getting taken down again. But if a company like Nintendo doesn’t know the personal info of a fangame dev, what’s truly stopping the dev from defying the C&D?

  • アイリスハート

    At this point why do people even bother. You know Nintendo will fuck you up.

  • アイリスハート

    WHERE IS MY METROID

  • Travis Touchdown

    I imagine AM2R really made Nintendo realize how ”””fans”” of their properties will try and talk down about official releases if fan favorite games are allowed to be rehashed by fans.

    You brought this on yourselves, fanboys. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/081b06f6b241f3d8f615dde99057346782df4a04b2b6f46190a1e380c033adaf.jpg

  • Travis Touchdown

    Fuck off, Haedox. You’re gay.

    “Anti consumer…?” You’re downloading their properties for free. You are stealing art and assets from them.

  • Travis Touchdown

    Long live Nintendo.

  • Travis Touchdown

    They don’t.

    We call these people ‘Pretendos’ by the way. They pretend to be dedicated Nintendo fans so their petty complaints come off as more credible than they actually are.

  • Travis Touchdown

    Ha ha ha ha ha. No.

  • Travis Touchdown

    To be more specific, Sega is promoting fan games out of nothing more than sheer desperation. They don’t have the resources or talent to make games of their own anymore, and have no choice but to fall back on the fans.

    That policy on fan games is really nothing more than a PR stunt. It’s cute that people think they’re better than Nintendo because of it, especially since they have shut down projects in the past.

  • Travis Touchdown

    Hey, just like Pokemon Prism.

  • Travis Touchdown

    I forgot about the Let’s Play thing.

  • EroBotan

    thanks for the info, i don’t play pokemon lol

  • Benjamin

    The game leaked on 4chan and Reddit a few hours ago and a fully functional build is in the wild, and it is amazing. The internet does good work.

  • Uncle Slick

    From what I was aware, if you make completely custom assets, you own everything.

    By that, I also mean slightly changing the Pokemon names as well.

  • EroBotan

    hey just curious, why are you telling me this? are you suspecting me that i’m a nintendo hater?

  • Vcom7418

    Ladies and Gentlemen, your worst company of 2016!

  • Zanard Bell

    Can they just not name their fan projects anything with a Nintendo brand on it? Nintendo will never change when it comes to protecting their pathetic IPs, so might as well be stealthy about releasing these fan games.

  • John Fartface

    asian people’s greed makes them stupid

  • DrearierSpider
  • Dr.Weird

    Chrono Cross was a bag of wet garbage compared to final fantasy XV tho. I could concede chrono trigger being better, but not cross.

  • Captain Vidya

    Is it the final product or is it just the demo that was released years ago?

  • Dr.Weird

    Every game should just be on pc, until then though ps4 is really the only good console competitor.

  • Captain Vidya

    >you’re gay

    Wew lad, trying to fill the void Smug left behind, I see? You have a long way to go if you want to be a shitposter like him, but you seem to be doing well in your own way.

    Besides, who’s to say he didn’t PURCHASE Gold/Silver/Crystal/whatever Prism used as a base when it came out years ago?

  • larverto365

    Boy, you know good and well what I just said. I still enjoy Nintendo, and yet this baffles me as well.

  • FreshSnug

    So you don’t mind Nintendo censoring games such as Fatal frame.

  • Dr.Weird

    to be fair, it’s probably not their copyright policy but rather the fact that they keep pouring money into niche titles and making god awful sonic titles and have been doing so since 2006 that’s put them on the ropes financially.

  • Malcolm_Ecks

    This. I feel no sadness for people that make fan Made Nintendo games these days. There are plenty of games that are like classic Nintendo IPs that are sold on places like Steam. Pokemon Uranium especially has no sympathy from me because they didn’t even use any of the Pokemon from the IP but decided to use the Pokemon name for attention.

  • Malcolm_Ecks

    Censorship isn’t the same as fanmade games. Make a better argument.

  • Malcolm_Ecks

    Looking at their home console sales declining since the NES (barring the Wii) I don’t think Nintendo has many fans left.

  • FlamableMind
  • Malcolm_Ecks

    Probably not. By that logic we should have gotten Shadows of Lylat years ago.

  • chaoguy

    SOMEONE LEAKED A COMPLETED VERSION.
    The anonymous person claims they finished it, and got the files via “magic and fairies.”

    However, I can’t reveal where to download it. Since that’d put Niche into hot water. Go looking yourself.
    Good luck. To fans & innovators.

  • Travis Touchdown

    Ignore this post. It’s confirmed to be malware.

  • Travis Touchdown

    They need to take down a Fox in Space as well, come to think of it.

  • Travis Touchdown

    Smug and I are complete opposites.

  • Nathan Brooks

    I think i remember hearing news about Sega doing it a few years ago too. I think they killed a fan streets of rage project or something?

  • Nathan Brooks

    Id say Mario Kart has managed to stay good.

  • Nathan Brooks

    I wanted a PS4 because built in screenshot/video recording/streaming are awesome features. Screenshots should be a standard feature on any system now.

  • Nathan Brooks

    also I really want a switch.

  • bgrunge

    Yeah, my bad. I got Nintendo confused with Squareenix there. My point stands though; Squeenix got said chronotrigger mod taken down, but development was then picked up by other guys working off the leaked beta. Hell, it could be the same guys under different handles.

  • Benjamin

    It’s the full final build, a “totally not a dev” released it. It’s the latest build.

  • Cats736

    You’d own the assets you created, but you’re still going use most of the programming from the game.

  • scemar

    they don’t “have” to, by law

    financially they have no motivation either

    I’m going to make a wild guess, but if I had to bet who is behind it all, I’d assume it’s their legal departments themselves justifying their salary, but I’d blame the responsibility for those actions on the execs who should block those sort of operations from happening but don’t do anything to stop it

    but we live in the age of social media and collective action

    things like this can continue happening until the community itself decides to stop getting cucked and sends nintendo and similar companies a message, loud and clear, to stop it

  • CatCouch

    This kind of stuff gets a mixed reaction from me. On one hand Nintendo is in the right to shut down fan works, on the other it hurts their reputation with some fans.

    NOA sent me a DMCA notice in October for a few naughty fan art pictures I drew and posted on Tumblr. While they are fully in the right to do so I’m not aware of other game companies going after things as small as individual fan art. Unfortunately, it does hurt them for me, I’m less likely to to engage in Nintendo related fan groups and I certainly don’t prioritize Nintendo games anymore. I like drawing fan art and connecting with other fans to talk about the games.

    I’ve been embraced for Overwatch Fan art I drew, even had it featured in a PBS Idea Channel YouTube video. I’ve had a lot of success with Undertale art, too.Why would I support a company that punishes me personally for things other companies don’t, you know? Even if they are in the right these aggressive tactics still damage my view of Nintendo.

  • NuclearKangaroo

    its been half a damn decade, one has to be blind to not see both SEGA and Nintendo approach fan projects very differently these days

    SEGA either lets them be or completely embraces them, while Nintendo sends their lawyers after them

    more damming yet, is the fact you can search “Mario” in the google app store and find dozens of examples of copyright infringement, and yet Nintendo wont go after them

    why? because they are more likely to have the money to hire a lawyer and fight back, unlike the people behind fan projects, the way Nintendo treats their fans is utterly disgusting

  • Ankoku Tou

    Stop lying you underage balding twat.
    https://gbatemp.net/threads/pokemon-prism-rom-hack-gets-c-dd-by-nintendo.453982/page-7#post-6942711

    It’s out. Never had Ninty stopped a romhack before, a fangame yes, but never a romhack. So, of all the numerous romhacks the Net made, why go after one that is based off of something as old as Crystal?

    Mind you, a romhack itself is FOC (free of charge) and the team never asked for any donations. So your shitty ignorant misunderstanding of “hurr Partreon” goes out of the window.

    Funny how you label those with a passion for old Ninty games as pretendos, perhaps that is the sign of a uncreative sour grape casual trash we see today.

  • Ankoku Tou

    Because Ninty never C&D’d a Pokemanz romhack, at least not as heavy handed as they are now.
    No one expected this.

    I can get behind C&D’d fangames based on a different engine, but with all the numerous romhacks floating on the internet, even including the more recent Sun Moon, the question is why this one and why only now?

  • 0551E80Y

    This will comeback to bite nintendo so hard they will not survive their eventual doom.

  • Ice apollo

    what

  • Malcolm_Ecks

    They’ve been doing this for years. This is the 3rd game this year they’ve hit. they whacked Super Mario 64 on browser last year and Shadows of Lylat not long before that. They’ve done this for years.

  • alex9234

    What happened to Smug?

  • Didney Worl

    Obviously, you’re the exception.

  • Didney Worl
  • Didney Worl

    Yes, it got leaked.

  • TerrenceEncore Jones

    I wonder what made Nintendo come after these people now. If this has been in production for 8 years why now? I am sure all of the copyrighted material has been there all this time

  • Ankoku Tou

    I’ve said romhack, not a game built from scratch. There is a glaring difference between the two. One is made with custom tools, engines etc, the other is modifying roms.

    There’s lots of romhacks, mind you, even for Gen 1 games. There’s even a FRLG romhack that swaps every mon into Touhous.

  • EroBotan

    There are various reasons but one of them might be this:
    1. Create awesome original game .. crickets …
    2. Create fangames -> tons of fans

  • FlamableMind

    He got Banned for saying Nigger,kike and fag on disqus and the forums.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    [On one hand Nintendo is in the right to shut down fan works]

    No they fucking aren’t. 2 years ago, when Iwata was president:

    http://www.thetanooki.com/2014/11/17/nintendo-to-endorse-creation-of-fan-works/

    Suddenly Iwata dies and you have shit like Gamejolt massacre.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    your mother should’ve swallowed you, “travis”

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    Ignore this guy.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    I have it it’s the full game. Easy to find on /vp/ or /v/

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    Ignore everything this guy says. Anywhere. He’s basically a shitposting bot

  • Funtime Happysnacks
  • Funtime Happysnacks

    stop existing

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    yeah smug is funny and you’re antifunny

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    not really

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    already was

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    kys

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    They don’t care, look at Gamejolt

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    no it’s so changed it basically is a fangame. look at details about Prism dude

  • Captain Vidya

    Yeah, I found it yesterday. Fucking Snorunt in the first route, now I can actually use one!

  • chaoguy

    Not the version I got it wasn’t. Although some might be passing around malware.
    ALWAYS check from a legit source, scan it for malware, and if possible open it in a sandbox or virtual machine first to limit damage.

  • CatCouch

    I’ve done a ton of copyright and IP research since my art was taken down and they definitely have the right. Fan art, fan games and the like are illegal. Companies usually let it go because it does no harm and helps foster a community that drums up support for their products.

    I would likely have to go to court and use parody as a defense and win against NOA to have my art accepted as fair use.

    Nintendo is the only one I know of that fights it’s fans as hard as this so I’m not enthusiastic about supporting them anymore.

    I really wish Iwata’s vision was the one they followed. DMCA notices sure don’t foster that healthy fan community they need.

  • FreshSnug

    Absolutely.

  • FreshSnug

    If only that were the case.

  • FreshSnug

    An argument for not disliking Nintendo? You seem to have misunderstood something. Censorship alone is enough for me. I mean I suppose if you want to be treated like a toddler by the people you pay for your rehashes then that’s your own business.

  • le master trole

    M-Merry Christmas to you too, Jewtendo.

  • Eighto

    Yep, got it yesterday. Enjoying it a lot so far.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    Fanart is not against the law.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    Well I love Nintendo myself, but when I say “Nintendo”, my friends know I’m pretty much just referring to Gamecube era and earlier. Nu-Nintendo with the gray logo pretty much killed the “Nintendo diehard” inside me.

  • CatCouch

    It seems to be a legal grey area. It’s not legal to use copyrighted material unless given permission or a court rules it okay, like for educational or news related reasons. I, just like most everyone, assumed fan art fell under fair use for parody or something. I quickly learned how wrong I was when I researched Nintendo taking my fan art down from Tumblr.

    I watched a video from the lawyer Deviant Art uses to consult with on such matters from a comic-con panel and his advice was to stop immediately if a company comes after you. NOA can ruin my life if they want so I’ll never draw Nintendo art again.

    Fan art is usually fine but I’ll now research companies before I draw to make sure they don’t have a history of legal action like NOA does. I don’t have the means to fight in court if I’m sued.

  • FreshSnug

    I can’t even like their early shit anymore. They’ve always censored games it just wasn’t so apparent to me until I was old enough to know they were doing it. I’ve retroactively begun to hate games I liked in the past solely because I know who is responsible for them.

  • randomdude

    Every game should so patching what the publish broke is easier. A 500 buck laptop can handle most games as long as you’re not trying for movie studio level quality.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    Because you can’t take legal action against an idea. It was because of the publicity leading up to release, that it was brought to Nintendo’s attention. And all they can do is warn the guy of legal action. The creator chooses to take it down or risk their wrath.

    At least they haven’t found Etsy yet.

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    NoA has never taken any actual legal action against fan creations. All they do is scare people because they know that’s enough. For them to go to court with a fan over drawings, while *TECHNICALLY* “infringement” (without indication of parody or a transformative quality), it would be very costly for them, look bad on their public image, and hurt their stocks (which recently slumped after Super Mario Run).

    You have to consider just how much fanart is out there– they cannot possibly go after isolated examples in a legal setting. They don’t give a shit about Tumblr drawings and if they did, I cannot imagine they will still be wasting time with that crap by March, when a billion other things are going on at Nintendo.

    Regardless all of this is quite depressing, since it is right on the heels of Iwata’s passing– Iwata, who in many instances in his last 6 years of presidency, was totally against attacking fans, or shutting down passion projects that didn’t lower the value or dignity of their brand.

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/102053-Nintendo-Doesnt-Want-to-Shut-Down-Fan-Projects

    “Of course, we cannot say that we can give tacit approval to any and all the activities which threaten our intellectual properties. But on the other hand, it would not be appropriate if we treated people who did something based on affection for Nintendo, as criminals.”

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    Nothing is stopping these creators, they simply get scared off easily by Nintendo threatening them. None of these fangames or whatever are being shutdown as a result of any real-life criminal trouble. NoA (and random anons who say they work for them to troll people) can’t do shit unless they put money down on court trials and paperwork. And I just cannot see that happening.

  • TerrenceEncore Jones

    Thank you, I did not think about that. I was thinking that the very first screen shots or video of the game in action would be enough to warrant a cease and desist, instead of letting these people waste their time on a project just to shut it down once its done. Kinda sad that Nintendo let them do all of that work for so long just to kill the project.

  • Uncle Slick

    OK.

  • Cia

    You really think Nintendo is the only one doing this? It’s just that they have more devoted fans. If someone made a fan game about Nathan Drake, do you think that Sony/ Naughty Dog would just let that project live? No, they would do the same thing as Nintendo and take it down. So, you might as well hate all the big gaming companies while you’re at it.

  • Cia

    Anyone complaining about Nintendo…
    Go on, make a high quality Nathan Drake game.
    Make a high quality Metal Gear game.
    Make a high quality Rayman game.
    I’m pretty sure the developers would take your game down despite not being Nintendo.
    You might as well blame the entire game industry for protecting their IP:s. Well, not counting Sega, apparently.

  • FreshSnug

    I have far more reasons to hate Nintendo than any other. Cheap gimmicky hardware, censorship out the ass, and the nerve to demand that people giving them free advertising pay them are just a few.