No, Violent Video Games Don’t Cause Gun Violence

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This is an editorial piece. The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of, and should not be attributed to, Niche Gamer as an organization.

The regular naysayers imploring the public to be wary of violent video games and their potential to lead our youth to violent actions have struck again, this time via The Daily Beast and their ludicrous new piece “Are Video Games Breeding an Assassination Generation?”

First and foremost, let me absolutely clear with you: this has not been proven through any scientific method. While correlations might exist, playing violent video games does not lead to violent behavior.

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Flying Wild Hog’s Shadow Warrior 2

As an example let’s go back to this previous summer. A lot of things happen during the summer: it was very hot during the summer, a lot of ice cream sales were made, and lots of people went to the beach during the summer.

Finally, during the summer fights often breakout, tempers flare, and road rage occurs more frequently. Now it could be assumed that because ice cream sales are high fights will break out. It could also be assumed that people at the beach fight a lot.

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id Software’s 2016 Doom reboot

It could also be assumed that the temperature is the main culprit of violent behavior during the summer. Is there any proof that any of these things cause violent behavior?

No, all of these things may be related by to the weather but it’s improper to assume a direct causation between any of these things.

Ice cream doesn’t cause people to go to the beach, the beach doesn’t throw me into a homicidal rage, and the sight of bikinis doesn’t make me want to eat ice cream. 

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Koei Tecmo’s Berserk and the Band of the Hawk

Correlation doesn’t equal causation. Just because I play games with a lot of violence doesn’t mean I, or any other video game fan, is destined to become a serial killer.

Correlations could be made between violent video games and violence, but often this is just like going to the beach in my previous example. The sight of sand isn’t a surefire way to prove violent intent, and not all angry people eat ice cream.

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Team Ninja’s Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z

I’d like to say something in closing to all the future Jack Thompson’s in our darling media – learn a basic rule of statistics. Correlation does not equal causation.

Editor’s Note: Featured image is from Egoraptor’s “Gears of Awesome” parody.

Cody Gulley

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I am a research student with a history in psychology. I am a fan of tactical rpgs and I love to travel. I hope to one day be a clinical psychologist.

  • Ganwi Dekani

    Honestly those screenshots just look disgusting to me. If you need to introduce extreme violence in a game to sell it, you already failed.

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    “Are Video Games Breeding an Assassination Generation?”
    Noooo, of course not (push the schedule forward).

    http://i.imgur.com/KvvFPRM.png

  • >Correlation doesn’t equal causation. Just because I play games with a
    lot of violence doesn’t mean I, or any other video game fan, is destined
    to become a serial killer.

    And anyone who likes loli isn’t going to become a child molester. Just sayin’.

  • LostGryphon

    Been playing games since I could hold a controller back in the early 90s.

    I’ve played tons of games with incredibly violent content, yet, its real world equivalent is somehow not entertaining for me. In point of fact, I find it to be downright horrific.

    I truly thought these sorts of people would have died out by now, but hey, I suppose things really do just go in cycles. The moralizers and authoritarians will always be with us, in one form or another.

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    Only political careers and large sums of money have been shown to lead to child molestation.

  • DDD-kun

    “Gun Violence”
    Stop this. Stop it now. It’s not a thing. It’s a pet term Hillary and Obama cooked up after Sandyhook that the media tried to push as viral. It doesn’t exist in reason or logic.

  • sanic

    Remember when egoraptor made flash animations instead of extra chins?

  • Jack
  • Arenegeth

    Why are we still asking this question?

    Obvious propaganda aside.

    My generation grew up on ultra violent media. As a kid of the 90’s violent games like Mortal Kombat and Doom were directly marketed to us, even if there was this pretense that they weren’t, same for music and movies, kids back then loved that shit, it was the age of the edgelord.

    Most of us did not turn out to be mass murderers or serial killers, and for those of us that did, clearly the inclination would be there whether we played any violent games or not.

    The average, not mentally ill person, can tell the difference between fiction and reality and is capable of empathy that would never allow them to do, or contemplate doing the horrible stuff we sometimes do in video games. A sociopath or a mentally ill person, could be triggered by anything.

    We don’t need study after study to prove this, is just fucking common sense people!

    Sure, the violence in games today is probably more realistic than ever before, but parental lock measures are more robust than ever as well, not to mention parents are generally more aware, on average (but still not nearly enough as they should be) about what their kids are playing these days.

    And frankly, given the generation that came after us, that can get ‘triggered’ by a naughty word and needs safe spaces to get over it, I don’t think kids today are even interested in violent media.

    So unless you plan on raising a kid, by locking it in a dark room and having it play violent games and consume other forms of violent media, all day with barely any food and water and some torture thrown in between, you don’t have to worry about games turning your kid into a mass murderer.

  • Smug

    You mean muslim, jew and gentile subhumans

  • Smug

    >media admitting nigs make up most of the crime rate in the USA, in an attempt to counter the statistics posted by Trump on his twitter
    That was pretty funny too.

  • Smug

    The problem is that a good amount of parents are expecting the government to do the parenting role, but only if it doesnt make the kid in the wrong.

  • LOL I had a good laugh at this one

  • vonSanneck

    At this point I wonder if we can play the games media like Donald Trump did during this election process.
    Moral busy bodies just come across as stuck up their own asses at this point. Instructing adults what they should or should not consume or entertain with? Last I checked the world is not a kindergarten. Even western animation made fun of that thought process.

  • Is there a link to the Daily Beast article? Not that I want to read it, but I still feel there should be a link to it, since this is technically a response to it.

  • Arenegeth
  • Alistair

    If video games was to blame then why Jack the Ripper & all others killers still killed.

    Because they sick in the head, & video games does sqat all.

    Study after study after study proves video games are not link to violence.

    But a agenda to get rid of them or out right censored them.

    Devil avacate if the end of the world happens it all down to trump and those Nasty video games.

    The,real devils are regression SJWs

  • Bitterbear

    And BBC employees too.

  • Mr0303

    Even if we just look at the correlation, violent crimes have been on the decline for 20 years, while the gaming industry was growing rapidly during the same period.

    Plus the Daily Beast is a feminist shithole and shouldn’t really be taken seriously like most of the mainstream media nowadays.

  • M37 TrenchGun
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  • M37 TrenchGun

    OY VEY MUH BROUZOUF

  • oshigoroshi

    i thought we moved past this argument ages ago?

  • Zombie_Barioth

    Obviously art and media can indirectly influence people, inspiration can come from many places, but it can’t MAKE people do anything.

    The people who claim such and such made them do something aren’t completely stable, wether its a screw loose, personal issues, or whatever they have deeper issues. That type of mindset doesn’t come from nowhere.

    If it were true then we’d be seeing MORE crime inspired by or copying media, and more crime in general, we don’t. Its even been proven that crime rates drop when those violent games release, and that playing them can reduce stress even in children.

  • BlueSkies

    The problem is that there are far too few studies to come to any conclusion.

    And people who use old studies to disprove any link between video games and acts of violence, are doing so based on an old generation of games that were not hyper-realistic like they are now.

    Clearly a game with ultra-realistic violent graphics is going to have a different impact than a game from the 80s that looked like minecraft.

  • Jack

    my legs are ok

  • BlueSkies

    Also, several people have advocated that these studies…to come any meaningful result….need to be split by gender and race.

    We know testosterone is for a large part responsible for violence.

    And we know men have more than women.

    And we also know black people have more testosterone than whites and latinos, and asians have the least testosterone.

    To measure aggression, genders and races need to be split, and while this was the case in the past, in some recent studies that has not been the case (probably due to “PC Correctness”).

  • Smug

    Not to mention Sandy Hook is quite unbelievable with all the inconsistencies

  • Uncle Ocelot

    And owning Pizza restaurants.

  • Uncle Ocelot

    You can thank his ayy lmao wife for that.

  • Audie Bakerson

    “Gun violence” because violence only matters when there’s a gun involved.

  • Zero Eternity

    This shit again? When are they going to learn. It is really simple. People who can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality and right and wrong already have problems outside playing video games. However if they really want to go there, then oh I don’t know, how about telling your children to go play outside and come back to reality again. There is nothing more compelling than your friends faces’ deadpanning and saying “that shit is wrong” when you say something stupid.

  • NukeA6

    If anybody wants to blame “gun violence” on something, there’s single mothers i.e. shitty parents. I’d say shitty music too but most of those listening to that have a single mother.

  • tccboss
  • Mr0303
  • Michael Richardson

    Video games causing gun violence is so last decade. As we all know now, video games actually cause rape.

  • Snorlaxation

    There’s no telling what exactly is going to warp someone’s mind. It depends on how they were raised, potential chemical imbalances, genetics, the level of graphical quality, yadda yadda yadda.

    There’s so much that these kinds of claims regarding the sources of violence don’t take into account, and after so many years, decades even, we’re still talking about it with such shitty levels of detail and fact.

  • True Goddess Reincarnation

    Remember when he wasn’t a nu male

  • Feniks

    People like simple solutions. Even if they don’t work.

  • grgspunk

    If violent videogames caused violence and turned people into criminals and sexual games turned people into rapists, that would be the best thing that ever happened to the videogame industry.

    If your videogame industry was made up of nothing but thugs that would kill and/or rape you without hesitation, it would serve as an excellent deterrent for people who keep trying to fuck with it. Casuals, SJWs, and bibile-thumpers know that it’s actually filled with nerdy masochists who wouldn’t be willing to hurt a fly, even in self-defense. If games were scientifically proven to turn people into killers and predators, nobody in their right minds would even think about messing with it.

    But a man can only dream.

  • And eating Subway sandwiches.

  • Muten

    this again?

  • SuuLoliBoob

    2 eyes and a nose?

  • If games are the cause of all violence, then what was causing far higher violence numbers in the past when games didn’t even exist yet? Oh, is that the sound of a narrative crumbling to nano sized particles? Yes it is!

  • You could say we leveled up.

  • I’m getting good at gauging where Nice Gamer tends to place links but it wouldn’t hurt to make links a little more visible.

  • le master trole

    SHHHEEEEIIIIIIITTTTT

  • le master trole

    I can’t believe this is even a discussion anymore in $CURRENT_YEAR

  • psycho_bandaid

    The only game that makes me want to murder people is League of Legends, and that has nothing to do with the violence in game….

  • I imagine most of us don’t consider the graphical detail to be too important since we’ve probably killed as many turtles from Super Mario Bros 1 to Super Mario Switch.

    It is a more scary answer to consider but all of the other elements are much more impactful. Someone who lost it will act with barely any impulse (books may inspire action even without images) and a more stable person can consume more or less any media without acting on it.

  • MusouTensei

    I guess the liberal anti democracy rioters are hardcore gamers then?

  • Lea Pastillaroja

    I can’t belive we are still dancing around this issue,
    People who say bullshit of this sort ought to be ignored and laughed at
    Besides, everyone knows that gun violence is caused by globalist

  • larverto365

    Sandy Hook seemed real to me.

  • We all know it is mostly religion that cause most of the volence here.

  • That is what I am saying.

  • Yeah women.

  • You believe sandy hook didn’t happen? I thought only crazy people like alex jones thought that.

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  • It’s pretty wholesome to stab, gut, and cut someone limb(s) like depicted in GoT – just not guns – scary shiny black boomstick.

  • And the Catholics.

  • But that logic if you introduce nude females and sex in a game to sell it you already failed.

  • Smug

    Saying that is simply an irrational emotional response. Your main argument is that the media and the government would not make such a big lie and then lie so poorly. Anyone doing serious researches will find out several inconsistencies present (no crime scene photos, footage from the early hours of the incident shows a traffic pattern that makes it impossible for emergency vehicles to operate, instant interviews/community statements and coverage, crisis actors, “in the memory of SandyHook massacre” facebook group created 2-3 days before the supposed event, etc.) to disprove the “official” story. Another common claim is that it’s hard to fake that many deaths, but the “victims” could have been easily paid off to live with new identities. Regardless of the facts, normalfags are sheeps and believe whatever is shown on mainstream media (or history school classes too for instance), and self-thinking, accurate information and logic do not matter to them.

    That reminds me pretty much of the “murder”of that female minister in UK, days before the Brexit vote, that was pulled off in order to influence and change public’s opinion on Brexit. Just like Sandy Hook was pulled off to make an attack on the 2nd amendment and create restrict gun laws on american citizens, which does not improve public safety, but reduces the ability of the people to resist a tyrannic government and foreign invasions. America is the last bastion of freedom on the planet and that is why America is under sustained attack by traitors (in high-positions) from within

  • Do you have hardcore evidence? Because I would believe anything that has strong facts to back it up. I’m not like people that keep their old world view when new facts are contradict them. That’s why I disbelieve most conspiracy theories and all religions. The idea that a reptilian society live in the sky and controls us is just ridiculous. That’s why I can’t believe anything Alex Jones say.

  • Alistair

    And a Penis…

    Fixed.

  • Smug

    ” That’s why I disbelieve most conspiracy theories and all religions. The idea that a reptilian society live in the sky and controls us is just ridiculous.”

    >he thinks the biased media coverage on the american presidential election, with high favor to Clinton, was pure coincidence
    >he doesnt know all the corruption clinged to the Clinton family and a good number of american politicians
    >he doesnt know about current South Korea’s meltdown since their female president admitted that she was controlled by a group in the shadows (the 8 goddesses)
    >he doesnt know about George Soros and a good number of people in high positions are jewish
    >he never heard of “false flag” attacks
    >he never heard of the term “globalist elites”
    >still using the CIA’s term of “conspiracy theory” that was made to make you normalfags shut up and stop thinking, and believe the Big Brother no matter what

  • Alistair

    Dancing to the chicken song.

  • I don’t look at TV news so I wouldn’t know what they said.

    All Politicians are corrupt and greedy. That is just a fact. But what does that have to do with Sandy Hook?

    I know about the South Korea cult as I learned about it from reddit. I don’t know what that have to do with Sandy Hook?

    Muslim=/= Black. You believe that Black People is trying to wipe all you white people out? ISIS is just invading Europe to spread their religion. Most of all the horrible things in the world always have religion as the root cause. They believe it will cause unity to have everyone under one banner. They are insane because they follow a barbaric ideology. Just like the Nazis did before them. But what does that have to do with Sandy Hook?

    Oh so you hate the Jews and Blacks? I know all about George Soros and his schemes for Hilary. I do browse /pol/ form time to time. I might not share you guys hatred for Blacks, Jew, non religious people.(considering I am part of two of those sections) But I use all info to my advantage no matter the source. But what does that have to do with Sandy Hook?

    “false flag” attacks? You have me their. Are you talking about false flaging videos?

    +globalist elites” Oh so you believe that people are trying to make a one world government? You do know that is impossible right?

    So you have no hardcore facts about sandy hook then… You disappoint me as I love new information.

  • Smug

    “I don’t look at TV news so I wouldn’t know what they said” Neither do I faggot. And yet, you’re still doing a shitty job.

    “You believe that Black People is trying to wipe all you white people out?”
    Niggers are dumb savages living with the “crabs in the the bucket” mentality. Why do you think black on black (and black on white) violence is very present or that no society with a huge number of blacks has been ever successful and civilized? >inb4 muh slavery
    Also I bring it up because a good of the immigrants invading in France are african nigs, and a very small amount are actual syrians.

    “Most of all the horrible things in the world always have religion as the root cause.” And yet, islam still live in the medieval age. I know morons love to say the Quran is “open to interpretation” despite it’s a set of rules explicitly stated to be aggressive and deceitful towards non-muslims (just like the talmud).

    “Just like the Nazis did before them” fucking lel
    “But I use all info to my advantage no matter the source.” smuganimegirl.jpeg

    “Oh so you believe that people are trying to make a one world
    government? You do know that is impossible right?” google/startpage “european superstate project” to begin with, then schengen area, european laws, TTIP/TTP (what was supposed to be). My previous comment was that you mocked about my original point on globalist elites and yet ended up mostly agreeing with what I’ve said (or repeat “wat does it have with sandy hook” like a dumb nignog).

    “You have me their. Are you talking about false flaging videos?” Again google/startpage to look it up

    “So you have no hardcore facts about sandy hook then… You disappoint me as I love new information” Despite I originally pointed out some of the inconsistencies as examples but guess you absolutely want to be spoonfeed like a retard instead (and I feel like I’m still being generous by giving you hints). https://youtu.be/KJxE2Sp5ED4

  • Smug

    “it was real in my mind”

  • Yes Islam is the most horrible religion out there but they are all horrible In my eyes and keep humans from progressing.
    A one world government could never work as it would not be able sustain itself. Not to mention the cultural and language barrier. The only people that I see that believes that something like that can happen are the people that believe the anti-christ is real or some shit.

    Come on you brought up false flagging so the very least you can explain it. I may not find exactly what you are talking about. Don’t be a lazy boy.

    So you have nothing concrete about sandy hook. Pity I expected more info from you Conspiracyfags

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO_8wznxdj4&index=5&list=PL7F34DFC00A800D53

  • Smug

    “Yes Islam is the most horrible religion out there but they are all horrible In my eyes and keep humans from progressing.”
    [fedora euphoria intensifying]

    “A one world government could never work as it would not be able sustain itself. Not to mention the cultural and language barrier”
    what is mass immigration and race-mixing propaganda, not to mention you ignored again everything I’ve said and didnt look up

    “Don’t be a lazy boy.” The pot calling the kettle black
    Go away kike

  • But it is a fact. All religion teach people to shut up and to believe and to not think. That’s why the religion of feminism has really held people back.

    That would not take care of the language barrier as people that are great distance still has difference in languages. See Spain vs Mexico or England vs USA.

    You are the one throwing out all these theories so you can at least explain it to me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpDmxv-6jWc

  • Smug

    “But it is a fact. All religion teach people to shut up and to believe and to not think” Some religions like islam are harmful to others, while others just teach you simple rules to live by such as don’t be a dick

    “You are the one throwing out all these theories so you can at least explain it to me you lazy boy.”
    If you had reading comprehension, it would have been already done
    >muh alex jones

  • All religion teach people to do is not to think. In fact religions like Christianity usually make people into dicks while Islam turn them into crazy murders. We don’t need religion what we need is logic.

  • Smug

    Are you an atheist by any chance?

  • Are you Christian?

  • Novelist3

    And real facts tend to circulate that muddy the mass media’s attempts to control the narrative.

    Did you know?

    The first school massacre was carried out back in the 20s and involved fertilizer.

    All automatic weapons have been illegal to sell to the general public since 1986.

    The first slaveowner in the United States was black.

    Jeff Sessions was instrumental in desegregating Alabama Schools and pushed for the death penalty for KKK members.

    This is truth, the opposite of what the media will tell you.

  • Are you religious?

  • A while back I assumed that this nonsense would go away as soon as the older uber-conservative generation died, but now it appears that we’re breeding an entirely new faction of pearl-clutching leftists who refuse to let this idiocy die in the name of “toxic masculinity.” The scientific method never meant anything to any of these people.

    Buckle up, buckaroos. It looks like we may be fighting this fight forever.

  • sanic

    She just has fetal alcohol syndrome

  • sanic

    Nope he was always a bit of a pussy

  • I love animals. I don’t like hunting. I would never kill an animal outside of absolute necessity, and the idea of skinning them is repulsive.

    I find hunting and skinning animals in Red Dead Redemption to still be really fun, though. These theories are garbage.

  • Yet you should be free to not buy them, while others should be free to buy them if they want. As long as we can agree on that, all is well.

    I find hyper-violence cathartic (and sometimes funny).

  • We did… when it was coming from conservative groups. Now that it is being peddled by the left-wing, it somehow keeps clinging to life.

    It was bunk when the right pushed it, it’s still bunk now that the left is pushing it.

  • Somebodyissilent

    Yeah, you need to check your facts.

  • Novelist3

    You need to pull your head out of your ass. Or at least learn to Google things before you come on here and belch.

  • Somebodyissilent

    Try clicking multiple links and not just one kiddo.

  • Novelist3

    Clicking “multiple links”? I don’t know what ward you broke out of, but “clicking links” has nothing to do with the Bath School Massacre, the landmark law that banned sales of
    all automatic weapons manufactured post-86 to anyone without a class-3, … , . .

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  • PixelBuff

    I was gaming during the time the ESRB was put into effect, back when this conversation was debunked and should have been put to rest forever.

    Leave it to SJWs to keep it on life support, who would have thought they’d adopt what was once a right-wing theory.

  • Snorlaxation

    True. But as graphics are the dominant factor (followed by capability and memory) in each new console generation, not to mention VR headsets, it’s only a matter of time before we’re killing people that look and act as human as we are.

    But again, you’re very right. Even pictures, or text, in a book, can cause someone to snap.

  • DannyB

    Lol – this is a great video!

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    Isn’t it the same with every religion?

  • I’d say that even given that future VR games (borderline) perfectly simulate movement while characters look and act human prior to us ending their lives, reasonable people can still distinguish the two.

    They will know that regardless of it being the most detailed X they have ever heard, read or seen, perhaps that it is possible in general not just with current resources that it means as little as vivid dreams.

    It isn’t so much the content’s detail as much as finding the people who need help before they go off the hinge.