Nintendo Fires Controversial Employee Over Moonlighting a Second Job

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Amidst a series of botched, controversial, and or censored game releases, Nintendo of America has made the decision to terminate a very controversial employee of theirs, Alison Rapp.

While many speculated her termination was from various internet campaigns to get her fired over her strange, controversial, and or pedophilia apologist opinions, it was actually over something a lot less interesting – breaking her contract.

In this case, Rapp was found moonlighting in a second job, which most professionals know can quickly get you in trouble on the grounds of it being a conflict of interest, especially if you’re doing it on company time.

Here’s Nintendo’s official response, via IGN:

“Alison Rapp was terminated due to violation of an internal company policy involving holding a second job in conflict with Nintendo’s corporate culture. Though Ms. Rapp’s termination follows her being the subject of criticism from certain groups via social media several weeks ago, the two are absolutely not related. Nintendo is a company committed to fostering inclusion and diversity in both our company and the broader video game industry and we firmly reject the harassment of individuals based on gender, race or personal beliefs. We wish Ms. Rapp well in her future endeavors.”

It remains to be seen what Ms. Rapp was actually doing on the side, and the manner in which she was conducting said job.

Following the public knowledge of her departure with the company, she posted a curious message:

“Fact is, feminist politics, sex, etc. ARE dangerous to companies bc that’s where we’ve let the industry go. It doesn’t have to be that way.”

We’re not sure what this means, but it goes against what most people are railing on, and whether this is related to her termination or something else entirely.

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  • Heavily Augmented

    This is why I love you guys. Rather than immediately posting an article on the topic just to get quick clicks, you decide to wait for the story to develop and now look, it’s completely different from what clickbait sites like Kotaku pulled from their ass and what they previously interpreted it to be. It shows integrity.

  • Immahnoob

    Finally, we can make this non-#TorrentialDownpour related and non-#Gamergate related.

    She’s useless to the localizations or its changes, so whoever is going for her is retarded.

    Anyway, it’s great we have news sites that DON’T start posting immediately so they get clicks, but rather start waiting out for the facts.

  • Hedger

    I wish her luck in her attempt in becoming a gravure idol…

  • Domhnall

    Turns out she was fired for moonlighting as a gravure idol, including some nude shots. I don’t want to link directly to any of the photos, but here’s the KiA comment section and there are some imgur posts that have the shots:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4cnpd4/industry_turns_out_alison_rapp_was_fired_for/

    Despite my intense dislike of her, I have to admit she’d probably do all right in front of a camera. She’s quite good-looking, I think.

    Can’t say I’m surprised NoA took her to task over it, though. Even beyond the fact that she had a second job, remember what they removed from Fatal Frame?

  • lucben999
  • TheCynicalReaper

    To be fair, all pedo-apologists should be treated like societal threats, because they present themselves as inclined to include, associate with and thus likely cover for an actual pedophile.

    TL;DR I’m glad for CFW because the idea that Nintendo would be inclusive to the point of harboring someone who remotely sympathizes with child rapists is quite disturbing.

  • deadeye

    Good job not blaming a hashtag that’s nothing more than a boogeyman these days.

    You could say “but couldn’t this be just some cooked up stuff so Nintendo can wash their hands of her?”. Well, no. Nintendo is explicitly stating she violated company policy. If it isn’t true, she should be getting a lawyer immediately, because that would be defamation.

  • Dewey Defeats Truman

    I can’t pretend to have kept up on this shitstorm (or to care) but from everything i’ve seen on quick internet searching it just comes across as a person saying and doing dumb things and getting fired from a public relations job as a result.

    Doesn’t really strike me as any different than when the editor in chief of Gawker said and did dumb things while in court and it came back to bite him in the ass. Or anyone else really.

  • BurgerUnit

    Not sad to see her go after she mocked fans about the Fire Emblem Fates localization as the companies PR person. Sounds like she wont be homeless though, which is good and about the most empathy I will show her.

    Good luck in posing for photos or whatever it is,,,

  • Obafemi

    All i have to ask her is ” what that mouth do tho”?

  • ScarredBushido

    I don’t know anything about her. What is this pedophile controversy im reading?

  • Kiryu

    As someone who likes lolicon i have zero tolerance for pedophiles and while i myself don’t have children pedos better not act on their urges in front of me or they would wish they were not born.

  • blackice85

    Yeah I’m a little torn as I don’t like seeing people lose their jobs, but I wasn’t impressed with the things she said either. Oh well, she knew the risks I’m sure. You’d think she’d be more discreet about it at least eh?

  • scemar

    Wow I thought her second job reason for being fire was a convenient cover for Nitnendo but disregard everything, the job actually seems like it could have been a PR liability to Nintendo.
    It was some cam girl deal.

    Personally, I don’t care enough about any individual, what they think or do, if they deserve it or not, not my problem.
    As far as I am concerned all the NOA sucks, so go ahead, get rid of all of them, GG, let’s start again fresh without all the censorship nonsense.

    What’s funny now is that this will make it seem like “gamers” actually achieved something.
    Did they? Would she have gotten fired anyway due to the camgirl job?
    Or was the fact that she was now in the spotlight a contributing factor to her fate?

  • Captain Vidya

    Alright, cool. Can we please move on from this, now? Or will the gaming “””””””””””””””””””””””””””journalists””””””””””””””””””””””””””” be calling out the GG boogeymen for the next week over this?

  • Hedger

    she wrote a thesis about de-criminalizing child porn in japan or something as a function of cultural differences and western cultural imperialism or what ever…

  • tccboss

    Alot of people in gg are mad right now because of how this went down, but it’s really really hard to argue for a person who advocates for pedophilia numerous times and to no one’s surprise people hate pedos and anyone who advocates for them.

    Also my celebratory song
    https://youtu.be/ZqD0447SHiM

  • Neojames82

    Good riddance

  • scemar

    Oh please, she’s going to find another job somehow, it’s not like she lives in some poor country or lacks connections, if she was on PR she’s got em.

  • ScarredBushido

    You mean loli ( anime ) or RL children?

  • Hedger

    You know us shitlords have to take our 30 lashes for some reason or another, perfect time to bait for clicks…

  • Immahnoob

    No, she said she got fired by Nintendo, that’s a reason to blacklist someone actually.

  • blackice85

    I was gonna say, a simple Google search isn’t going to turn up anything positive on her. And from what I hear, employers do that sort of thing nowadays as a matter of routine.

  • Neojames82

    Both actually.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    I very much hate lolicon but only a fool confuses it with pedophilia. No worries, Kiryu; Marie Rose or the vamploli from Blaz Blue would likely appreciate the attention (because they are imaginary and pure)

    Notice, though, that these SJW Marxists are heavily against lolicon yet openly defend and promote actual pedophiles–that horrific Salon article is an example

  • EroBotan

    Despite some info about her being a camgirl, i personally still think the cause is that magazine article (mirror i think?) & that woman from child organization. Nintendo ‘s statement is all safe & vague diplomatic stuff, all the companies do this when they get in trouble, this way they can wash their hands & stay out of this.

    I don’t think GG has anything to do with this because nintendo of america is an SJW company, they won’t fire their own kind just because gamers demand it. Gamers are their enemies afterall.

  • Neojames82

    Wow, playboy has become shitty haven’t they? Love how they call “exposing the truth” as “harassment” as well.

  • scemar

    All right this is a big find, a “second job” didn’t seem like a real reason she’d get fired for, more like an excuse.

    But this particular line of work would make more sense.

  • Hedger

    a bit of both. loli was a no brainer, but she made a real case for RL CP. something along the lines of different cultures have had different ages of consent throughout history and its only recently where western ideas of such have driven the ages higher…

  • Malcolm_Ecks

    G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-GET FUCKED!

    They probably knew about this “moonlighting” for a while and used it as an excuse to can her. Especially due to her post firing statement.

  • ScarredBushido

    See i am confused do we hate loli lovers ot actual pedos lol

  • blackice85

    Yep, it’s fine to not like it but it’s important to recognize that they’re fundamentally different too.

  • EdgyDude

    Nintendo’s statement and SJWs trying to blame this on GG aside, I find it funny and deeply ironic that a so called feminist is on the receiving end of an outrage campaign for once, because that’s what it looks like:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/nintendo-urged-fire-woman-centre-7464276

  • Edith Reese!

    Maybe she’s working at the porn industry because video games don’t make as much money as being a PR and junk? “Looks up Alison Rapp Pornos online!”

    Meh?

  • Pillbugable

    Eh, even then it’s a real reason considering it was explicitly forbidden in company policy.

  • BurgerUnit

    Yeah its bizarre. Neogaf bans games with lolis yet are tripping over themselves to defend someone who is making a case for the actual thing.

  • Kiryu

    Thanks i appreciate your understanding.

    Yeah it’s fucked up how they are for censorship of lolis in Japanese media but lust after the real thing.
    Those gender ideologues are working hard at making pedophilia socially and legally acceptable.

  • Liz

    I think that we can all agree that, regardless of why she got fired, today was a good day for human decency, right?

  • ScarredBushido

    Yup i agree with nepu-nepu

  • Kiryu

    These people are fucked up in their heads,don’t even try to understand them.They are clearly not good people.

  • Fear Me I Am Free

    Timing seems incredibly fishy that she would be fired for something totally unrelated. I wouldn’t be surprised if used this excuse so the company wasn’t associated with someone who is pro-child porn. Hell, despite the CP shit, she was bad at her job. She shit on customers who she didn’t agree with politically all the time. That’s not something a fucking PR rep for a company should be doing. People are gonna shit on GG anyway while ignoring the CP stuff and the fact that many in GG were against it, but I don’t blame the people did go after her considering she was for the exploitation of children.

  • dogmentation

    I have no idea what’s going on here because I don’t give a shit about attention whores. Does this have anything to do with actual video games?

  • BurgerUnit

    The second part. Most people here are mature and level headed enough that they don’t care what someone else does in their free time as long as they are not hurting anyone else.

  • Edith Reese!

    So you’re saying that Weeaaboo’s do a way better job at writing articles than sites like CNN and Fox News who talks about terrorism and junk? Keep this in mind that none of them have ever own a journalism license or been to collage. You’re lucky that you live in a free country where third world countries would censor you and in saudi arabia they will behead you just because someone told the royal family that their laws are stupid and ass backwards as fuck!

    (Keep this in mind that they are fighting against Isis and is an ally to the Americas.)

    :/

  • エリック

    NOA corporate was probably sniffing for a reason to ditch her already. She openly shit on and insulted consumers as a PR rep, and of course her pro-CP/Pedo stances which are incredibly well documented thanks to her own twitter. That’s not something a family friendly company wants to be connected to. Hell any company. She gave them a contract violation that let them fire her as clean as possible so they took it.

  • Immahnoob

    She was PR at Treehouse and Gamergate Revolt targeted her because she was easy and wanted brownie points.

    Basically involved #Gamergate and #TorrentialDownpour which indeed are related which only wanted better localization/no censorship.

    Since she was part of the company, she is games related anyway.

  • Edith Reese!

    Aman my sister! ;)

  • Kiryu

    That’s the thing.The ignorant casual gamer puts lolicon lovers and pedos in one box but most lolicon fans don’t like to be associated with these people.

  • dogmentation

    Short answer is no. Moving on, then.

  • blackice85

    That’s plausible, I agree. Her comments might not have been enough to get rid of her without being sued.

  • She did something that Nintendo didn’t allow? I’m shocked! SHOCKED I SAY!!!!

  • Heavily Augmented

    Your joking right? I was referring to sites such as Kotaku and Polygon who would go out of their way to make the articles the fastest without any sort of proof and checking of facts and end up coming off as idiots due to them not giving a shit. What the hell does CNN/Fox have anything to do with that?

  • buddyluv324

    When it comes down to it, Rapp has absolutely no one to blame but herself for her own actions. It sucks when someone loses a job, but when you foolishly come out with these potentially damaging comments out in the open and shit on your consumer base you’re just begging to be fired. Also there’s the second job Nintendo mentioned.

    I guess that comment she made about people needing to learn social issues in order to talk about video games is biting her in the ass.

  • Frank Johnson

    Yeah that’s what Nintendo says, but it smells like the equivilent of busting Al Capone for tax evasion.

  • scemar

    Maybe he’s comparing them?

    CNN/Fox are garbage tier sources of information as well.

    Good source of sponsored content, clickbait, rhetoric and filtered narratives tho.

  • I honestly don’t think he said anything of the sort.

  • Kiryu

    I think she got lightly off.
    1.If i was advocating for pedophilia at my work i would earn the disgust/rage of my coworkers and probably be at high risk of being fired.
    2.If would most probably have the police on my doorstep afterwards.

  • ScarredBushido

    Thanks for clearing that up. I don’t use social media much. Thats why I don’t know shit about gamer gate and neogaf.

  • scemar

    When I said real reason I mean the real motivation, not merely a justification for it.

  • Narmy

    “Finally, we can make this non-#TorrentialDownpour related and non-#Gamergate related.”

    You know this won’t stop the aGGs from making her out to be a martyr to the cause.

  • Heavily Augmented

    Maybe, but where does topics of video games have to do with political and governmental news at the moment? I sort of get the comparison about clickbait, but even then, he didn’t mention it in his comment.

  • Liz

    I think that we can all agree that, regardless of why she got fired, today was a good day for human decency, right?

  • Victor Lourenço

    She was probably selling candy out the back of a windowless van.

  • Robot Maid

    There’s so much of this story that doesn’t add up. I feel very much like she was terminated for another reason entirely (it’s entirely possible her termination was regarding her controversial opinions on child pornography).

    On one hand, I don’t think any reasonable person thinks she should lose her job for what her opinion is.

    On the other, she wasn’t exactly the nicest person in PR. And I would assume that PR people have to be able to at least pretend to be nice. Especially to people in their company’s target demographic (in Rapp’s case, gamers).

    It’s a conflicting feeling to be sure.

  • Kiryu

    So one less.Now the rest of NOA needs to get fired for the awesome job they do on “localization.”

  • buddyluv324

    This was probably what Nintendo meant by her having a 2nd job. Most likely the reason they got rid of her:

    http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3429/9061/original.jpg

  • PenguinPlayer

    “And I would assume that PR people have to be able to at least pretend to be nice.”

    Bethesda’s PR Pete Hines shits on the fans constantly and has been on the job for years. There was also the incompetent people hired by Tale of Tales and the list goes on. I’m pretty sure at this point PR in the games industry are just the department where they dump the “I want to make games but don’t want to invest time polishing the necessary skills yet I have the connections” people.

  • Dewey Defeats Truman

    I hold the same opinion on this Allison woman as I did on Dina at Comcept and any other person working PR. You can’t act like a shithead towards customers and expect to hold your job for long if the company you’re working for is respectable in any way shape or form.

  • Bitterbear

    She could be the super-cute but also super-creepy camgirl.

  • EroBotan

    I think he’s just trying to show you what a clickbait journalism is by doing it in person :D

  • Neojames82

    Actually most new media is fucking garbage no matter what the source is. Modern journalism has degenerated into fucking shit. No real fact checking, just click baiting; biased bullshit.

  • BurgerUnit

    I think their goal was to agree with you while making an attempt at satire that went a bit off the rails.. maybe?

  • Heavily Augmented

    If that’s the case, then my bad. But y’know… Poe’s Law (or I’m an idiot).

  • scemar

    Might just be a new spambot lol

  • Richard Miller

    I never heard of this woman. Why do a lot of people hate her?

  • Robot Maid

    Bethesda’s a mediocre company in my opinion and Tale of Tales hired Leigh “I am Games Journalism” Alexander to promote Sunset.

    To elaborate on my stance on Bethesda. No respectable game company should ever have a QC team called “the community”. That’s not good game development practise.

  • Robot Maid

    She had a very controversial opinion on child pornography. She equated it to lolicon and shotacon content (both of those do not involve real children in sexual situations). Her stance was that “consumption child pornography, lolicon, and shotacon media do not make real life child molesters and rapists”.

    [EDIT]
    She used this logic to argue that “child pornography is safe to consume and should not be condemned”. Of course, the problem isn’t so much consuming it, it’s what’s required to create it.

  • Touma Kazusa

    Good, now hire people that do give a shit about games/Localization.

  • dsadsada

    Which in my opinion isn’t entirely wrong. Not every pedophile is a child molester and giving non-molesting pedophiles psychiatric help to get over the attraction is something I’m all for. Actual child molesters can rot of course.

    The only thing I’m aware of from her paper that I take issue with is that she puts drawings on the same level as actual children which I consider to be bullshit since most lolicons/shotacons (for lack of a better distinguishing word) have no interest in actual children.

    Whatever the case, the whole thing about this lady confused me and I had no interest in shitty PR people so I didn’t pay too much attention to it myself.

  • Robot Maid

    I wholeheartedly agree. As a gamer, I believe that violent video games don’t make me violent in real life. Therefore, I cannot say “consumption of child pornography makes child rapists and molesters” without some serious amount of double think.

    My problem with the concept of child pornography is the creation of it.

    On another note, it’s refreshing to see someone who doesn’t throw around the word “pedophile” like it means “child molester” or “child rapist”.

  • dsadsada

    The feeling is mutual.

  • Diego Dereshi

    She’s mostly hated for her responses after Fire Emblem Fates’ release, people were complaining about the terrible localization and removed content and she was constantly making fun of the complaints, attacking GG, etc.
    Then, people dug up and found out about the pedo stuff to add to that.

    Now that she was fired she claims harrassment from GG, blames GG for being fired, wants to make it about “I was harrassed and fired for being a woman in the gaming industry”, etc.
    I sense a Patreon coming.

  • scemar

    True.
    She didn’t actually touch anyone or anything really, but merely making any of the statements she said would be enough to screw over most people.

    I guess she gets a pass because she’s a woman and has the label of feminism on her side.

  • grgspunk

    You know, some of us would have no objection to the idea of having the US government sic the SEALs on journalists working for sites like Kotaku for the crap they’ve written.

    Like me, for instance.

  • Kiryu

    And the later is what infuriates me,they get off scott free most of the time.

  • scemar

    I’m trying to make a picture of it as well.

    Right now there are 4 angles it seems

    Her thesis, statements in support of pedophilia, with the wayne foundation condemning it, and people making it a public knowledge deal

    There’s the gamer backlash against her due to her supposed involvement with the censorship (weakest angle of attack imo)

    There’s her second job matter Nintendo says, and as a bonus it seems she did some camgirl stuff none the less

    And finally there’s the angle the mainstream media will take, that she was fired because gamergate was so mean to her because she is a poor woman :( and gamers are such disgusting evil meanies. Which is of course, BS.

    What led to her firing? Who knows, only nintendo.

  • Audie Bakerson

    Whatever the reason, glad to see someone who bragged about putting Something Awful memes in promo material for serious games is gone.

  • blackice85

    As some others have said, it might be all of those, but the second job might be the only really solid reason they can fire her for without getting into trouble themselves for wrongful termination.

    I’d put money on it that they’ve been aware of the other stuff and have discussed what they can do about it.

  • Richard Miller

    Sounds like a sick bitch.

  • NeoTechni

    They have skulls on their belts

  • Fear Me I Am Free

    She also shit on people she disagreed politically all the time. And you can’t be doing that as the PR rep for a company.

  • NeoTechni

    They love their pedos

  • British_Otaku

    A web of stuff, aside from what people are explaining pretty well, she ended up becoming the first person who came to mind when someone was looking for a Nintendo representative involved with Treehouse.

    She expressed herself being proud of a few projects like Fatal Frame 5 (not celebrating edits specifically) and has butted heads with people by claiming that they are harassing here just by responding you her for probably years by now. Naturally that propels a cycle of anons asking her questions, some not as polite and them being thrown into the harassment fire. She even searches for it herself on the net – not just people messaging her directly on Twitter: http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/presenter-at-the-nintendo-treehouse-event-posted-all-the-mean-things-people-said-about-her-today.454226227/

    Can’t praise the comments she received and I’ll assume all of them exist for her sake, but does “dat qt butt :3” belong on the list? Same goes for “Well I hate her” which may be the most polite harassment to be given ever… No idea what sites these were on and that last one implies that even if it was in a comment section she is likely to see that it wasn’t a direct exchange with her.

    Fair enough if she didn’t want to give what may be trolls in some cases attention, but without context. All of this could be live comments from a single stream, largely by a handful of people. No idea why she removed references to specific games.

    (Social Justice like views don’t mix well with this, but that is a cherry on top of the whole thing)

  • British_Otaku

    Spoopy? I forgot about that one… And my cancelled preorder for Project Zero 5. >_>

  • British_Otaku

    … A Joestar?

  • Elijah Wyatt

    Wish they would have done that before they said more than half of the face rubbing content was still in the game, despite it being obvious to the contrary.

    Also, the statement by Nintendo smells of 10 levels of bullshit. Comes off as a very PR statement made, that all companies do regardless of what the truth is.

  • Elijah Wyatt

    Why was it?

  • buddyluv324

    I checked. The tweet is real.

  • EroBotan

    mmmm .. turns out that she’s been a problem worker before this stuff happen https://twitter.com/DPX_Artwork/status/715382893871304704

  • British_Otaku

    But the enemy stand?

    I have confidence in you folks, even if I didn’t I’m rarely excited enough to talk this sort of discussion beyond a few DMs or posts in specific comment sections. Would be nice to have archive.is links, but someone has probably done it by now.

  • British_Otaku

    Even Hideki Kamiya submits to the Nintendo Ninjas for everything he says. Perhaps, Nintendo have a stronger case if they can point out other things not that I think tattoos (and opinions on the net – as charged as rape is as a subject) should be that big.

    Nintendo’s family friendly image should be tighter on their PR than it should on the games they release which are open to player expression and largely out of their hands when it comes to third party games or titles like Devil’s Third or Bayonetta 2.

  • British_Otaku

    I wish Nintendo and company picked up the slack so reporters can’t mix up things on developing stories like “What is left in the game?”. Bravely Second, Fire Emblem Fates, Fatal Frame 5, Xenoblade X, Azure Striker Gunvolt, Blade and Soul.

    All of them are wild rides where we only really know what is gone when the game has been released usually, often when it has been out for months or longer.

    The Nintendo statement does seem suspect. Perhaps, it is could be true (perhaps they don’t like what she was doing as a second job – or think it matches with their image). If it isn’t a defined rule in her contract that she can’t do that, I suppose she could sue and I wouldn’t mind that at all.

    Even if I supported her losing her job (nope), it isn’t like I’d lose money watching more appropriate justice being sought out.

  • Didney Worl

    Look at all that hypocrisy. But seriously, I don’t think she deserves all of this hate. She had nothing to do with the censorship (plus, given her sex-positive views, she probably didn’t like those changes either), she’s just a PR rep, though not a very good one. If she does plan on pursuing modeling or a camgirl career, I’m totally cool with it. Come on, you guys have to admit, she is really cute.

    As for the pedo accusations…
    https://youtu.be/MpPvGlrqhdA?t=2s

  • buddyluv324

    Here ya go. Archived: http://archive.is/Tfw0f

  • Mr. Oshawott

    Have a look at Alison Rapp’s old tweets concerning child pornography and you’ll have an instant answer.

  • scemar

    Having to talk about what they are doing would likely force them to think about it though, it might led them to them realize how ridiculous it all is, and they wouldn’t want that now would they?

  • scemar

    sounds like she kind of made herself a lolcow, and as a result, the number 1 scape goat to blame for the treehouse’s failures

  • sanic

    Okay I gotta say this isn’t it sorta messed up to say “we didn’t fire this person because they were pro pedophilia”? I feel like if I was a parent this would bother me.

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    That pic they paired up with that title was an unavoidable click for me.

  • British_Otaku

    No idea if Nintendo’s done this to other people in similar second jobs or second jobs in general, but Sony got rid of Kevin Butler (well the actor) for less:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Butler_(character)#Controversies

    Thanks for the archive.

  • British_Otaku

    I wonder who’ll take the next Number 1 spot. She isn’t the only Nintendo staff to leave this year with similar views interestingly enough though basically no one knew who the last guy was on the comments till people dug a bit.

    I’d be nice if the next high profile person engages more positively with people and that’ll reflect back to them even if they may be unable to say much about the edits for games.

  • chizwoz

    I seriously doubt the second job thing is the genuine reason. I think that’s their excuse for doing it without having to mention the fact that they’d hired someone who was arguing for pedophilia.
    Mixed feelings about this whole thing though. Both sides look a bit messed up.

  • erobotan

    Well then good luck with your landing and don’t forget to closed the door when you leave game industry forever, Alison Rapp.

  • Ice apollo

    she posted them on the same account
    really?

  • OtakuBrony230

    I had forgotten all about the fiasco with Alison from a few months ago because that died down real quick, not a soul talked about it since.But now that it arised again and the speculations has been thrown, people went into chaos because they keep saying GG was behind all this.

    I would like to thank you guys for not doing that, that separates you, from cucks like TMS and Kotaku.

  • Shinobu

    Isn’t “she” transgender?

  • chizwoz

    They probably did though. They just don’t want a hundred stories to be written linking Nintendo to pedophilia.

  • Elilla Shadowheart

    Modern journalism is no different then the old yellow press. Something which mainly died out in the 1950’s(outside of celeb/royalty gossip publications), but it’s easy to make. And can make even the shittiest paper or publication money off of.

  • buddyluv324

    No prob. I’m guessing being that Nintendo has been consistent with their kid friendly image, with her as a PR that second job probably clashed with their image if this was the case.

  • Laytonaster

    This single event has become more convoluted than it needed to be, because of everything than can be attributed to Rapp’s firing. Was it because of her pedophilia-defense thesis? Was it because of her moonlighting? Was it because she’s just an imbecile undeserving of her job? And because of the idiotic figureheads of AGG throwing more lies and bullshit, all they’re doing is throwing more false information to sift through.

  • sanic

    Too late for that shit!

  • British_Otaku

    Perhaps, their tunes will change as more information comes out (it hasn’t been 24 hours yet), but two developers for Nintendo hardware have stated that they aren’t releasing games till Nintendo gives answers.

    This one hasn’t changed their mind as far as I know:
    http://mynintendonews.com/2016/03/31/developer-stops-making-wii-u-game-as-a-result-of-nintendo-firing-alison-rapp/

    This one changed their mind when Nintendo released their explanation:
    http://gonintendo.com/stories/255064-midboss-halts-production-of-eshop-titles-following-release-of-ali

    Not a big loss in games if I was to think that way (Seriously – Monster Hunter Stories and Generations exist – Zero Escape 3 is real!), but the point is that even developers are having knee jerk reactions. Fortunately one of them is waiting for the story to develop now.

  • scemar

    I’ll be the cynical here and bet they would have released the game anyway.

  • Domhnall

    …I certainly hope not, or else I’m going to be very angry at my penis.

  • Mighty No. 56008

    Oh boy, I do hope that any unknown indie dev team who have/is deciding to boycott Nintendo =change their minds. I certainly wouldn’t want to miss the opportunity to play their great games.

  • British_Otaku

    I could be super cynical and bet that Necrosoft Games didn’t have a Wii U game in the works (pretty safe this late in the system’s life). That example is one where they are in “planning” stages.

  • British_Otaku

    Likewise. On the off chance, that I actually get through my backlog of over 100 3DS games (and cheap Wii U games come the end of the life of the system), I’d definitely feel like their software was missing. Perhaps like the hole that Mega Man Legends 3 left, but worse.

  • chizwoz

    Well there haven’t been hundreds of stories linking them to pedophilia have there? So it’s not too late.

  • Mighty No. 56008

    Hmmm I wonder if Nintendo is finally waking up. I wonder if they’re trying to fix and/or amend all the idiotic recent censorship controversies. I wonder if they’ve wanted to fire Alison for quite some time, but only now found a way to do so. I wonder if firing Alison will improve future localizations.

    ….I really doubt it, but one can only dream.

  • Gamer

    Thanks for sharing the real story, unlike MundaneMatt who has lost it lately.

  • British_Otaku

    This is definitely one of the better ones, but there is more we’ll know over the week I hope.

    Matt seemed to be okay, what did he say exactly again which was off?

  • Gamer

    Holy shit, white knighting someone based on their gender, how sexist is that?

  • British_Otaku

    We can only dream. A hashtag to support Rapp is called #NintendoCowardice and that isn’t far off from how I might use #NintendoIndirect eventually.

    Nintendo can’t convince everyone about an answer these days. There is always a scent of BS with anything we get.

  • British_Otaku

    To give more context, the second example is Midboss Studios who have this as part of their Twitter Description: “San Francisco”

    Okay, that is true but just a joke. >_>

    “Queer-focused production company! WE MAKE: @GaymerX @ROM2064 @GamingInColor @GXdev We ♥ queer gamers and geeks!”

    It does seem in character based just on that for them to be standing up for her. Shallow as it is. (I’ll hold off on responding with “sexist” personally)

    Source: https://twitter.com/WeAreMidBoss

  • Gamer

    So, will they print retractions or updates now that Nintendo responded with the truth?

    She still hasn’t deleted the tweets of her moonlighting, on her Nintendo associated account, not that it matters since archive exists.

  • Rumble Red

    Gosh, I wonder why a family-friendly company wouldn’t want their employees making a fuss about *rape*.

    If Nintendo wasn’t asleep at the wheel, though, then why didn’t they tell her to stop being a shithead to their customers? That probably would’ve nipped this whole circus in the bud.

  • British_Otaku

    Kotaku did an update for their article. Jesse Singal’s NY Mag article has no updates though it does have a correction on another detail. PlayBoy hasn’t moved as far as I can tell.

    I’d give it a few days since not everyone is awake till we know whether they are getting off misinforming people.

    I think it is wiser for everyone who knows they have done something suspect to leave the information up there. It only reflects super poorly and has a chance of people spamming it all over the internet if you go out of your way to hide (even if Archive didn’t exist).

  • sanic
  • bdp

    I’m just out of fucks to give about this whole situation. Someone did something stupid and got fired. K, back to video games.

  • Liz

    She’s a pretty awful person. Her fanbase is even worse.

  • Mighty No. 56008

    Yeah, you can definitely sense that they’re tiptoeing around the real issues/reasons with their PR friendly statement. It just feels good that we’re not on the receiving end of it this time around.

  • chizwoz
  • Nagato

    It’s no wonder that Nintendo doesn’t play nice with the games media anymore, when that is how their “journalists” report on them.

  • Gamer

    First he admits she was bad at her job in multiple ways and that should be reason enough to fire her. Then he goes on about wrongthink, witchhunts, and thinking she was “really” fired for opinions.

    Now he looks extra foolish that Nintendo made a statement about her moonlighting at a second job. Turns out the job was camgirl/photoshoot of some sort that is NSFW, and she posted it on her Nintendo linked account.

  • Wells Bristol

    Gotta love the Kotaku piece “Fired after censorship smear campaign by GamerGate!” that’s not misleading at all

  • Luka
  • EinMugenTenshin

    What’s her beef with that movement anyways? Considering how she acts, wouldn’t she actually gain more supporters from this demographic (for being sex-positive & all)? Notice I know nothing about her or background. Was she actually pro-censorship in the end? Kinda like “It’s ok, but only for me”?

  • scemar

    Can’t go against the narrative.

  • scemar

    Oh snap, that’s extra cynical.

  • Mr0303

    I heard that “Gamers are dead”.

  • Mr0303

    PlayBoy, what the hell happened to you? First you remove nudes and now you become an SJW shithole.

  • Mr0303

    Destructoid. Surprise, surprise.

  • Mr0303

    Nintendo fired a PR rep who had asinine opinions about child pornography, had a second job doing nude photoshoots and was generally bad at her job shitting on customers and wanting to talk about rape culture?

    http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/im_shocked.gif

  • catazxy

    She was doing some naughty stuff on the side, she had it coming, nothing of value was lost…

  • Raspberry

    get keked you stupid cunt

  • MusouTensei

    Good, now the Memehouse.

  • DizzyGear

    Prolly a combination of the above. But the side job thing was just solid grounds to sack her without any of the above reasons coming back to bite them in the ass.

  • Feniks

    I was kinda pissed of how the mainstream media immediately assumed that it was a patriarchy/gamergate conspiracy.

  • DizzyGear

    I thought the meltdown was glorious tbh. Especially NeoGAF was a hilarious saltmine when the news broke.

  • Feniks

    Sure but we’re all to blame for that. Who the fuck pays for news these days? And we all have adblocking solutions installed.

    I trust the BBC but they are funded by the UK taxpayers. Media being clickbait trash is just how capitalism works.

  • Immahnoob

    It doesn’t matter, to be fair.

    They’ve hurt themselves so hard it’s not even funny. Gamergate just won by existing, we didn’t do jack shit besides watch.

  • Galbador

    One problem less.

  • randomdude

    Poe’s law is super effective after you’ve seen enough stupidity. gets hard to separate insanity from satire

  • Daryl Corey

    There were a laundry list of reasons she should have been fired. Antagonizing the customer base while working in PR. Defending pedos and kiddy porn. add NSFW modeling and well yeah. Regardless of the reason chosen she really needed to lose her job at NoA she was terrible at it and a stain on their PR when she was supposed to be helping their PR. Now if she would just get hit by a bus or a chunk of space debris or any other lethal freak accident I will be truly happy

  • Daryl Corey

    They have been desperately trying to lump Jamie Walton an The Wayne Foundation in with GG since the Rapp pro-pedo info came to light

  • West

    I’m not sure Alison Rapp is representative of the problems with censorship in the industry, and the accusations made against Rapp for her views on Japanese culture sound like they’ll do more to increase censorship of games.

  • sAy_YaS

    .

  • Neojames82

    Yup.

  • Kiryu

    That’s why MundaneMatt god shredded to pieces by his subscribers there,very disappointed of him.

  • Edith Reese!

    True. But Bill is cool right? “Action Adventure Genre” Bad memories! Please put me outta my misery? :(

  • Edith Reese!

    Well it’s more of Japan’s problem with people having Tattoos over there than in the US and Europe?

    Remember when getting a Tattoo was illegal several years back in America?

    Japan takes that to a whole nother level!

    http://youtu.be/2UgacM8EL0o

  • Edith Reese!

    You’re avatar! :3 She looks so cute.

  • Edith Reese!

    I’m still confused on how there’s an actual The Wayne Foundation in the real world? I thought that was Bruce Wayne’s dream to run his parents Corporation….

    I watched too many Batman cartoons to even know better! XD

  • Alistair

    Really ninty that wasn’t the reason we let her go (sacked) I don’t believe it not 1 jot the things she done couldn’t help the matter it cause grief you could ride the storm.

    Couldn’t you, the moonlighting was of course the last straw right. You won’t get tears from me however the last sentence from her post “it doesn’t have to be that way.”

    That quote is from SJWs handbook of 1001 quotes so you can easily spot she is indeed a SJWs femmists that been caught out lol. ?

  • Edith Reese!

    She’s still gone anyway. There’s nothing we can do about it? :/

  • British_Otaku

    I don’t think that’s particularly off though, we didn’t have the information of Nintendo’s response at the time and I feel he has less responsibility to ask Nintendo for a response than any news outlet (though a correction will come with his frequent stuff).

    Regardless, if Nintendo WERE acting solely on opinions that she expressed, that wouldn’t be cool. Now that we know that it is more and perhaps part of a chain of things. She has less of a case to support here and anyone who dug for information can at least say that they brought valid work concerns.

  • Eugenio Gil de la Madrid

    Will this truly help fix NoA’s localization problems? Scratch that fix their overall bad buisness practices? I don’t think she was part of the problem but maybe I just don’t know all the facts.

  • Sadly I doubt that, she was only one of the “workers” at treehouse and she is the only one that was fired.
    It might cause a lot of them to shove it if they want to keep their jobs, but overall, this was a mere driplet on the hot rock

  • Alistair

    I’m not sorry that she sacked if you take into account her SJWs views & took her opinions to work then moonlighting something have to give.

    So her views did effect the judgement of the games that she & her locallise team to censored the games ninty made. Plus I question that t-shirt she wearing I don’t like what.

    I don’t like this.

    I don’t like sailor moon.

    I don’t like what she wearing.

    Etc etc.

    She making a view point like a little good SJWs did ninty let her wear that at work.?

  • Chocolate ISISCream

    Treehouse next please.

  • Alistair

    Well nobody would called people that play COD even GTA textbook murderders now nope no-one would.

    Now lolis, treating of women even though fictional in games is a definitely No-No.

    I don’t see the problem with both of above.

  • magicalfollower

    She looks quite beautiful on the photos of her 2nd job i will give her that…

  • Yeah, they need to understand a loli girl and and child girl are two different things. There are a few lolis in games/anime that I like. But IRL, I don’t really like children since they are an annoying bunch lol. basically 2D=/=3D

  • PFFT and Playboy didnt even bother to correct the title with an update, or even highlighting the update of the REAL reason she was fired. I guess they just wanted ppl to real the top sentence and enraged with false news lol

  • Smug

    “quite beautiful”

  • Kiryu

    The average people have a hard time making the difference,guess that’s too much for their brain.
    On a previous gaming site i was called pedo a few times for my gaming habit and that really pissed me off to the point i said;”fuck it,i’m leaving this site of idiots.”

  • Kiryu

    The wonders of photoshop and makeup.

  • Brimfyre

    I’m still not sure why she became a target. She was anti-censorship in all her statements. And had nothing to do with this shit localization of Fire Emblem. The worst she can be blamed for is the word Spoopy for the Fatal Frame trailer.

    The people who tried to get her fired were literally trying to fire one of their own. Pretty hallow victory if you ask me.

  • There’s rumors on Reddit that she may have leaked info to certain media outlets. If true, that explains why she got savagely sacked. Ninty is absolutely ruthless with that shit, and all the hoopla over her made them look a little closer at her private life… which could have exposed this stuff.

  • Daryl Corey

    Well Real world reasons Jamie Walton and Kevin Smith who founded it are huge Batman fans so they named it The Wayne Foundation.

  • Why is she (and her defenders) so keen on insisting that nintendo’s decision happened because of GG? I thought literally everyone in the industry® was against GG.

  • buddyluv324

    She was just a PR person. She has shit to do with the actual work on the localization. But there was word about her shitting on people who complained about the localization for FE: Fates and other current titles.

  • Alistair

    Hmm “this was because the GG mess meant they looked at my tweets”

    So that rather conflicting isn’t it Ninty said it wasn’t about her views it wasn’t about Gamergate but she says otherwise oh the plot thickens.

  • zaph

    Well, her side job, as evidenced by certain Tweets (involving modeling a very NSFW nightie that was bought for her by a random person) was that of a cam girl.

    Knowing Nintendo’s reputation as a very family-friendly company, it’s not surprising that being a camgirl would be against their company policy lol

  • magicalfollower

    Pretty much.

  • Voiced

    I’m rather mixed on this.

    On the one hand, she seemed like a fairly cool person, being more free-spirited than NoA usually is, and some of her stances I agreed with such as keeping the boob slider in Xenoblade Chronicles X. I am sure she will land on her feet. The tattoo stuff is bullcrap that I hope changes, but I know that is how corporate culture is with clean-cut, professional appearances. Some of the things she pushed back against actually were reasonable, mostly getting the ability to stream like some of her coworkers.

    On the other hand, her insulting consumers as well as tweeting mixing her personal and business account together are clear red flags that she is not a good fit for PR. Tweeting the stuff about CP is a HUGE no-no, especially for someone who works at a company who wants a family friendly image. Her tweeting about rape culture is something that should be left to a personal account, not when you interface with kids.

  • Hiecchi

    The problem with Nintendo is simple
    They never say anything about the censor in their games until 2 or 3 days before release

  • Alistair

    Inclusive & progressive can you see a pattern forming?

    Taken over 15 hours ago.

  • Dark Lord Ash

    The whole “but it’s the idea lolicon presents” shtick never really stuck with me. Every time I see a loli (or any anime character for that matter depending on the art style) I’m reminded of pic related

  • Narmy

    GG is the boogeyman that they blame all bad things on so they don’t have to take responsibility for their own failures.

  • Alistair

    How the mighty has fallen & that what happens you see give them a inch & they took advantage & now playboy, page 3 girls are no more. A silver lining playboy nude does exist via live babestation websites.

  • British_Otaku

    The update was at the bottom and not even bolded… Now that’s scummy. >_>

    I’ve never even seen any games outlet do that. At least, if there is no update, I can assume they didn’t hear about the extra information.

  • British_Otaku

    I think things are a lot more mixed than “One of their own”. I can’t disagree on her seeming to be the realm of anti-censorship (mondo cool), but I’d say that anyone who leans towards supporting paedophilia and lowering the age of consent is going to be noticed after we’ve seen a number of people get confirmed to be offenders.

    More so, if she works for Nintendo/Treehouse and seems to be the most common face who engages with people. Since September 2014 at least she has been butting heads with people and collecting + reflecting the hostility she got.

    Even more hollow of a “victory” if it gets blamed on them and Nintendo doesn’t learn (which seems to be a trend). At least if it was a man, people would focus on what she has said and done as a whole. >_>

  • Brimfyre

    I haven’t seen anyone post to where she is a supposed pedophile. All I’ve seen is a college paper she wrote where she said Japan should be in charge of their own laws. I’d love to see the evidence, but all I see is people saying she said that with no proof.

  • bob

    Looking at how her explanation transformed from “starting to take responsibility” to “Gamergate ruined my “life” and all video game companies are misogynist!”, I couldn’t be happier that another idealogue is out of vg pr. Thank pixelated god for gamergate.

  • C4

    Since she worked in PR I’m not sure what she said was her opinion, but yea I doubt she had a say in NoAs recent censorship.

  • C4

    If it’s not against their contract they can’t fire her because of that. But they seem to have found another reason.

  • British_Otaku

    I’d say the same – No absolute proof of her having those tastes or exploiting children.

    Proof of other stuff? I don’t want to be accused of digging but if anyone sees this, let them know I used Google for 30 seconds.

    Possession of CP is BS (2011 source): https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/122100442602803200

    Age of consent lower (2015 source): https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/663605234485235712

    That’s as bad as it gets I believe.

    My stance on both of those subjects? Neither of them are proof of what she has done or will do, and I wanna play games later today so I might respond to this a little later on.

  • scemar

    Gotta follow rolling stones with their fake rape accusations.

    Guess it can’t be helped when most of the people coming out of college these days are indoctrinated sjw zombies it’s so easy for a magazine hiring to get swallowed up by the monster.

  • British_Otaku

    Sometimes they mention things before that, but we never get details. It is up to us to discover things like Bayonetta missing dual audio in Smash Bros outside of Japan which had no answer or Bravely Second’s changes prior to hearing from them.

  • C4

    Bayo has a bit violence and sex but I don’t think it’s not family friendly in a broader sense. It’s not more than what you would watch with your kids on TV in terms of what some would consider as “problematic content”. They do seem to try to avoid it in their own 1st party games though unfortunately, but often it’s just not worth collateral damage when you look at things like people genuinely want the removed body part slider in Xenoblade X or people don’t want memes everywhere in localisations. Sometimes good intentions can go horribly wrong and that is what might have happened at NoA here and there. There’s definitely space for a Bayonetta and uncensored and unmemed localisations for a “family friendly” company. I hope Nintendo finds a better balance in the future cause right now stuff gets decided even against their own target audiences wishes.

  • Brimfyre

    I just saw someone else post a picture she posted on her account of her in a see through nightie, that a fan sent her and then she asked if people wanted to see her in more reveling stuff to send it to her and linked to her Amazon Wishlist. That should be case closed. That is more than enough reason for a company like Nintendo to say, “Thanks but no thanks”.

    https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/675135327141498880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  • British_Otaku

    Nintendo has so few M-rated/D-rated/18-rated (interestingly enough Bayonetta 1 is 18+ but Bayonetta 2 is 16+) games that I mentioned it even if I’d definitely recommend Bayonetta in the same breath as Devil May Cry. And in the same breath as Ratchet and Clank (rated 3+ in the UK for the trilogy back in the day).

    Fatal Frame is definitely further out there, but I let my bro play the demo. >_>

    More on topic with what you were saying, yes, even if the Mario, Kirby and friends are lighter, there is definitely room for other games to shine. Nintendo would be cooler if they weren’t neutering their works, even some mature ones at times (well Fatal Frame is the only M one which comes to mind but I’ll use it).

  • bob

    I liked Oh Deer on the vita, so i’m pretty disgusted Necrosoft are squishy SJWites. Oh well, another company to add to my shit list, with Double Fine and Cards Against Humanity.

  • British_Otaku

    Sorry for your loss. Most comments I’ve seen on places like GoNintendo and such are going “Who?”, but you actually have something to potentially miss.

    Do you make exceptions to support good titles from say… Double Fine if they didn’t screw up everything?

    Just curious.

  • bob

    That cat looks like Mr. Plinkett

  • C4

    Yea I guess in case of some of these games age rating and potential sales is more an issue than being overly family (kids) friendly. They probably don’t want mature rated games and what we saw were just leftovers from Nintendo’s plans to please a bit more of the “hardcore” audience.

    16 rated and/or uncensored games like Bayonetta 2 are definitely okay and something Nintendo needs if they want to stay relevant.

    When they are afraid of certain themes and replace them with memes or remove content or body sliders then I think they completely overreact and it will have a negative impact on the company in long term (and their sales are already low enough compared than last gen)

  • Guin

    She was sucking cocks. End of story.

  • Obbliglol

    Wow. I mean, it should’ve ended with “tweeting about CP anywhere near an official Nintendo account” stuff but the wishlist thing is an immediate offense IMO. Good Lord, can you imagine what would happen if your boss found out you were doing that? On an official account or even anywhere near your work? I’d be fired immediately.

  • Thanatos2k

    This is how you fire someone when you really want to – give a legit reason that’ll hold up in court when you really fired them for something you don’t want to admit.

    Goodbye, cRapp. Hopefully no one else is dumb enough to take you, which means time for guest writer duties on Polygon!

  • Guin

    What I really want to know is why does she think making herself look like a pornstar would be a good idea as a rep for Nintendo?

  • Guin

    In a way I wholeheartedly agree with this, but at the same time her character and actions soured it for me.

    It’s like I side with the message while being disgusted by the messenger.

  • Thanatos2k

    Removing the nudes should have been the tip off that it was now an SJW shithole.

  • Thanatos2k

    Anyone want to help me milk my cat?

  • Thanatos2k

    A PR person from Nintendo who regularly insulted their customers. You can imagine how well this goes over.

  • Horus

    there is a mountain of evidence to suggest that the consumption of lolicon explicitly feeds into the record-high numbers of child-abuse in japan. ganbatte hentai baka

  • Kiryu

    That’s complete bs.That’s like saying playing COD/GTA leads to more crimes,stupid argument really.

  • Kiryu

    I think she meant regressiveness because that’s exactly what these people are.

  • Nina Bradford

    Can I have her job? I actually have integrity and the proper qualifications for this particular job type. I also would like to point out I’m not a nude model or into pedophilia unlike Alison Rapp.

  • Brimfyre

    Patrick Klepicks tweet about “Why am I the only journalist covering this?” Was especially vomit inducing. So much hubris.

  • Eugenio Gil de la Madrid

    I take back my comment she sounds batshit insane O.O I hope the industry does a better job finding people not like

  • Mr. Oshawott

    “Now if she would just get hit by a bus or a chunk of space debris or any other lethal freak accident I will be truly happy”

    Alright, now, let’s not go too far with that…

  • static5225

    Japan has one of the lowest rape rates in the world (1.2 per 100,000 people)

  • static5225

    They’re getting desperate. Anti-GG has suffered quite a bit of losses in a short amount of time:

    – Japan told the UN to f*** off not just once, but twice
    – Hulk smashed Gawker
    – Alison Rapp getting fired
    – DOAX3 becoming Play-Asia’s best selling game in spite of anti-GG’s efforts to boycott
    – Anita Sarkeesian digging her own grave with her “Ordinary Women” project (historians are going to eat her alive)

  • 萌えゲー

    Links kudasai~♡

  • Erthwjim

    What article? I saw a follower of hers mention it in her Twitter, the same follower that sent her a nightie that she then wore and posted on Twitter. FYI, that didn’t require much digging, just using the Twitter advanced search.

  • Erthwjim

    She was a somethingawful goon?

  • Gamer

    Nice, I didn’t look. Hope they keep in him check.

  • Audie Bakerson

    Of course!

  • anonemouse

    SJW’s are acting like she’s Miyamoto or Kojima, she’s not special. Nintendo will replace her and move on. I don’t even really care about her (rather disgusting) views, you done fucked up bigtime.

  • Daryl Corey

    Oh I have a list of people I would love to see die in horrible accidents. Murders can create martyrs but horrible leathal freak accidents not so much an issue

  • Qmish

    Do you mean Marie Rose looks like 12 or less. What? Though… DoA always had that “babyface” problem.

  • Qmish

    What about age of consent? 14 yo teenagers having sexual life in Japan or Italy has nothing to do with CP.

  • Qmish

    Hi there. It’s a pity as game is good in atmosphere/plot (or do you speak japanese?) as i heard… Anyway, have you played Mind Zero and/or listened to music? I was curious as it got you interested as i remember.

  • British_Otaku

    Howdy.

    I actually had mixed feelings based on the Project Zero 5 demo which the Japanese version probably won’t remedy (how common health items are, how ghosts appear when you pick up items, the glowing indicators), but yeah I would own it if it was uncut and I am only likely to pick up the Japanese ones even with my poor Japanese. >_>

    Ah yes. The game with the same composer as Saya no Uta. I actually forgot to put Mind/Zero in my wishlist and to track it down in general.

    I’ll definitely look into it at some point and would rather hear the music in context for a story driven game.

    Thanks again.

  • Qmish

    Fatal Frame and japanese survival horros in general are each own league in my opinion. Me personally started watching David Lynch movies since i was 13 (yes….), so that depends. I usually say how Silent Hill 2 is perfect game for teenagers but people buttheart at me after that as in their point of view when you say that game is for teens than it’s some “dumb action with big explosions and big breasted npcs”.. While it’s really an insulting generelization. I dont know how they teach students in schools/high schools in different countries, but usually they start giving pretty complex and deep books to teens starting from 14yo and up. Silent Hill 2, as i mentioned it already, is like some horror/surreal/freudianism version of S. Lem’s Solaris (if you havent read you may remember it for 2002’s movie..though some say USSR’s 197x movie is much better, and there was another movie before). So why am i saying that Silent Hill is perfect fit for young ladies and gentlemen? Judging from experience of me and my circles (i was heavy in fan communities those days) it’s in those age (15, 16 and further) when you percept very brightly and with much enthusiams such “deep complex plots full of symbolism”. Especially if you considered them psychologal dramas instead of just horrors (and even cried about tragedy of character’s situations). And while it depends on many people, in my opinion in your 20s and later you stop being such emotional etc. as you live your life and starting gaining more experience, real life experience; so the way media like literature/movies (hell, “Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind” was one of movies that rotated my mind in my midteen years)/videogames have less and less power of influence on your “yourself” because what they can give is overshadowed by you own life exp you starting to get; that’s why it’s good if you “built up” a certain base of good books/game/movie narratives in youth. Especially if after graduating from university all you gotta read is tutotials and other tech stuff you need for job; and – again, imho – you start more playing games for entertainment (more arcade, perhaps… Shmups? Racing? Fighting?) rather then looking for some ways to change yourself as you did earlier.

  • エリック

    It’s a good time to send your resume into NOA’s HR. You know for sure there’s a vacancy!

  • Qmish

    Sounds like disrespect for nude models (unless you meant Rapp’s actions of wtf, of course)

  • Hedger

    What do you mean “what about age of consent”?

    I didnt read her paper, but as i understand it her argument was along the lines of age of consent being arbitrary, that cultures through out history have had lower ages of consent and managed just fine, and that the higher ages of consent being legislated around the world are due to pressures from prudish americans.

    If you dont understand how consent matters to pornography then i really cant help you.

  • Qmish

    I mean that low age of consent doesnt advocate CP as there is no country where that age of consent is lower than a teen age.

  • Cats736

    She has a Mami daki lol
    http://puu.sh/o2BHU/27fa5dfb13.jpg

  • Hedger

    she argues to lower those ages of consent using ancient cultures with consent ages as low as 10 as examples.

    The end result being CP not being CP because the child could consent. It would simply be pornography.

    The over all motive of the thesis was to decriminalize CP and minimize the stigma attached to pedophiles under the logic of pedophilia being a natural tendency and watching porn of that nature as way to harmlessly express or sate those urges. That people looking at pictures and video had an outlet and were not out preying on children. Of course the idea that someone has to make those materials in the first place was left out of the conversation.

  • Qmish

    Ah, ancient cultures… Sorry, i see.
    Just all these holywars about japanese games censorhip etc starting insulting me as people starting calling you a pedo even if it’s about 17yo and you’re not that much older. They should go to wiki and learn this word https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia at least instead of making late teens looking like maniacs who do shit to children.

    “American puritans” thing you mentioned is overreaction to bikini outfits. Like, check random 16 yo’s instagram/facebook and it has plenty of photos from beach or aquapark often. Though of course there is difference between normal underwear/swimwear/whatever and some skimpy things they sell in sex shops etc.

  • consider

    (You’re talking to the fuckwits that got her fired.)

  • consider

    “Thoughtcrime”… Where have I seen this before…

    Ah, fuck thinking. She has a weird opinion, so let’s treat her worse than a criminal.

  • consider

    And yet with all that evidence you failed to cite even a single source.

  • C G Saturation

    I’m pretty sure nobody would care about this if the employee was male.

  • C G Saturation

    Haha. That’s the most bizarre comment I’ve ever seen on any website. Good laugh.

  • Smug

    >Saudi Arabia
    >ally fighting Isis

    Religion of peace™

  • Alistair

    I watch mundanematt last night I’m puzzled let play that devil avacate what if a male staff at ninty that secretly possessed child porn or write about it like rapp did then a whistle blower blow the whistle & report that male staff to Nintendo.

    He brought ninty into dispute & of course ninty got no choice but to fire him. So what makes Alison rapp special why are people disgusted by her firing. Because she a woman the same batshit crazy logic SJWs & White Knights Oooo how dare you pick on defenceless women. Like pick on your own size never hear that phrase before.

    Mundanematt said it the digging up her tweets & using that to get her fire hence whistle blower. Or blowers but the golden rule in a job is this if you have a personal opinions views that you believe in like criticism of treatment to fictional characters that SJWs are pushing leave your views at home not into work if your views have influence the decision to censored games that bad ethnics. & if your personal opinions say like rapp report & you bring your job in dispute you to get fired.

  • Edith Reese!

    I male all of my people laugh like there’s no tomorrow? ;)

  • Alistair

    You correct yourself below when did she become a SJW femmist anti-censorship she said in-tweets that wants inclusive & progressive in games.

    She made her case well know she also put drawing on the same footing as RL CP ones. The age of consent is 16 in UK but we hear teachers getting fired for having sex with a 16 year girl even if the girl got a crush & give consent so basically the whole consent laws is a joke.

    The whole point what she wrote was about consent age around the world but her views on problematic content is well known if she was anti-censorship then she can have a say that the games Should not be censored instead she assaults the consumers that buy they games & to be fair ninty doesn’t come out of this clearly too why because ninty let the team censored the games, ninty also let the assaults carry on did they not read what she put till a whistle blower told them what she been doing.

    I want to know what NoJ think of all this are they happen for NoE & NoA to be censoring they games, are they happy that she & others brought dispute to them NoJ they are staying silent. If I was them I would speak out & bang heads.

  • Nina Bradford

    Spare me the rhetoric. Alison Rapp wasn’t a nude model for the sake of artistic pursuit and has admittedly endorsed pedophilia. Her name cones up as a red flag regarding her fondness for *children* and she constantly stokes the GamerGate flames. She was a lackluster representative of Nintendo and I’m quite surprised she wasn’t let go sooner.

    Nintendo, you could’ve done far better but you didn’t.

  • Critic2029

    She had a whole string of tweets as well. While she may have come to her point of view by way of defending cultural relativism in Japanese media, it seemed that she took it too far.

  • Critic2029

    My reading of it is people legitimately took issue with her questionable tweets, but because she was a woman and involved in video games, the bloggers decided she was being targeted by GG.

  • Qmish

    Thanks for making things more clear. Yeah at first i thought that she *just wrote that article about* but it ends up she really promoted it there ><

  • TheCynicalReaper

    Right, we should treat everyone equally no matter who they sympathize with and promote.
    —Who cares if you sympathize with pedophiles and promote pedophilia as normal? It’s, like, just an opinion and certainly doesn’t make you a potential threat to society.
    https://www.salon.com/2015/10/27/the_pedophile_i_could_not_help_he_was_not_a_monster_or_a_molester_the_system_destroyed_him_anyway/
    —Who cares if you sympathize with dog rapists and promote bestiality as normal? It’s, like, just an opinion and certainly doesn’t make you a potential
    threat to society.
    https://www.salon.com/2015/09/21/im_a_pedophile_but_not_a_monster/
    —Who cares if you sympathize with jihadis and promote jihad as normal? It’s, like, just an opinion and certainly doesn’t make you a potential threat to society.

    It’s all just “weird opinion”, bro! What, are you some kind of FASCIST or something?! Don’t judge! DON’T JUDGE!
    https://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/im_a_pedophile_youre_the_monsters_my_week_inside_the_vile_right_wing_hate_machine/

  • Raiden

    Regardless of my opinions on the woman herself. Can anyone tell me where I can get that Sailor moon shirt in a size L?

  • Qmish

    i hoped you would say what you think on that lengthy post of me (about whether you should allow play survival horrors at which age), as it was something i really thought about and not just posts about pantsu PR marketing

  • British_Otaku

    Sorry for the slow responses, I have a habit of being distracted and taking days to get back to things sometimes (at which point I don’t bother with dead arguments or boring subjects).

    I’ll get to you in a moment.

  • British_Otaku

    I see. I haven’t really gotten into them yet (only has a good grasp of Revelations 1 through completion and RE4), but I am interested in the survival horror including some older games like Sweet Home.

    The bro I mentioned is 12… >_> The only things I’m keeping him from is Berserk, but given what he has probably seen on the internet and that I let him go through Soul Eater and Dragon Ball. It won’t be long till I just let him. >_> As long as you are a decent human being (he isn’t, but he is okay), no harm done.

    Silent Hill 2? I heard it was censored in the west as much as it gets a MASSIVE amount of acclaim, then Konami messed up the port for PS3. >_> Where will I start that series or Fatal Frame (if not 4 which is Japan only). All of that said, Silent Hill 2’s inspiration does sound interesting.

    I guess Death Note or Monster (the anime series/manga) took that sort of psychological drama spot for a lot of my folks. If I must be honest, I played some stealth levels in games in my childhood and that put me off pursuing both horror and stealth for a while, though I should give the games a look again.

  • Qmish

    ah, it’s ok, then. thanks for answer

  • consider

    Did you actually read any of those articles?

  • TheCynicalReaper

    Yes, and I feel filthy for doing so. I thank Christ I’m not so vile and willfully delusional as either the writer of the articles, the publisher exec who OK’d these articles, or the delusional fools who sympathize with the writer to the point of actually wanting to make pedophiles accepted in society as a “sexual identity”

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  • consider

    It’s not about identity, jacktard. It’s about getting people therapy before they hurt kids instead of after.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    Then it would be best to get them mental help (or, if they refuse, lock them up quick) instead of writing articles trying to normalize and empathize with evil

  • consider

    It’s like you missed the whole conversation.

  • Adrocked

    Ok Nichegamer, you just got another regular reader.

  • Agrias Oaks

    I think I’ve found Alison Rapp’s disqus account.