No successor that is out yet and they’re ending production this year?

Why do I have a bad feeling about this?

Oh wow, sounds kinda like the Saturn in a way. I bought my Wii U for the new Zelda, dumb move on my part looking back.

I thought it was confirmed actually that they’d reveal the NX at E3?

Previously I was skeptical whether we’d see it release in 2016, but perhaps so if they’re halting Wii U production, though I’m sure they’ve got plenty already made.

Didn’t the Saturn have a botched release too, like it went on sale suddenly without any prep or coordination with retailers?

Same here. I think quite a few will be passing the NX up due to that as well.

Plus if that leaked controller image they’re passing around is real, I would rather just continue emulating SNES games then playing emulated ones on a 3rd Ninty console.

I actually loved my Saturn. Shining the Holy Ark, Shining Force 3, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Magic Knight Ray Earth, Mystaria/Riglord Saga, Albert Odyssey…there were some good RPGs on it.

But they dropped the ball by not bringing out the other 2 SF scenarios.

I keep hearing mentions that we’ll know details about NX before E3:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198876118&postcount=5861

The Saturn was a fine system, SoA just ensured it was DOA in the states.

I don’t know why they have to (apparently) look at it as an either/or situation. All the Nintendo fans who grew up with their original system are now well into adulthood, do they want people to fall out of love with them at a certain age or something?

And while adults can enjoy the more childish games too, but typically as you grow up your tastes broaden. So not only can someone like myself still enjoy Mario, but I also play more mature titles.

Great news and good riddance you terrible console.

Is what I wish I could say while looking forward to the NX but sadly the NX might very well repeat many of the same mistakes as the WiiU because Nintendo hasn’t learned.

At least the name won’t be a confusing factor.

At least it seems it will have some sort of unified account.
But will it still be under powered?

Will it still be region locked?

Will it still lack all the online features that are norm in the business?

What about the usual media features?

Are first party titles still going to lack important elements?(hey theresmash 4, where is your ranking and leaderboards?)

Is it gonna force another overpriced gimmick on the users like the last time? Microsoft managed to rectify course halfway through and release a kinnect-less xbone but it’s still impossible to use a WiiU without a gamepad. They haven’t even released a patch for an on screen UI in case someone’s broke.

Will their e shop be better, perhaps with fairly priced games and worthwhile discounts?

They got a lot to catch up to.

Don’t you dare bash the Saturn or i call Segata Sanshiro on you.

With the way their studios handle their games I have to question if they want adult gamers at the top management either.

Look at zelda, just as piss easy as it always was yes but back then as kids it seemed challenging and at least the puzzles were fresh but no more.
And the story telling is just as bad, but that is exacerbated by the contrast between a mute protagonist and high end graphics.

Similar problem with pokemon, no signs of a difficulty setting for veterans to enjoy the game and 0 self awareness, it’s still all aimed at 8 year olds after all this time.

The only adult gamers they seem to be putting any specific effort in serving are the ones that never picked up a controller in their life and need a golden invincibility powerup.

as soon as the Nintendo online account based service goes online Nintendo will get a few digital purchases from me, until then I’m disk only purchase. Get with the times or loose out on my money Nintendo.

Remember when they made Samus talk and focused on the story? Never again.

There’s nothing wrong with focusing on kids. They’ve made it pretty clear that’s a big audience for them. Most people that play Pokemon are still kids. The competitive people are an extremely small minority, so much that I’m surprised Nintendo has thrown them any bones at all.

Nintendo has (usually) been pretty good about making games that are approachable for kids but still has something for adults, but they’ve been kinda dropping the ball as of late.

I’m hoping they really re-focus themselves and get their shit straight with the NX.

It’s less about ‘adult’ games and more about third parties. Nintendo always makes consoles that are a bitch to program for.

Nah I like mine just fine

Pretty much what I was going for. Neat system killed off by incompetence.

Besides the Virtual Boy, this is by and far Nintendo’s worst console, in my opinion. The software overall leaves a lot to be desired with barely any third-party support, the network is still terrible, the gamepad is gimmicky with horrible battery life, and its tech is unimpressive. Nintendo better be prepared to wow with the NX because if it flops, I don’t want to live in a world without Nintendo making consoles. I may not be a fan of the way Nintendo does things nowadays, but less competition for Sony and Microsoft is a bad thing.

I do realize that Nintendo has enough money to launch failing consoles several times over, but the question is if they really want to keep churning out failures or just shift the company to more lucrative ventures. This is a company that started out making hanafuda cards. They’ve evolved before and can do so again.

Some things are not really optional.
The only option is to try again until it comes out right.

They’ve non deliberately dropped hints for the NX release date which should put it at a late 2016-early 2017 zone.
This seems consistent with that.

We will know for sure after E3.

Well, It was a disappointment for everyone involved.It will be remembered as the “Bayonetta and Wonderful 101 machine”.
I can see them eventually pulling out of the home console market and focusing on the handheld market, since that’s where they make the most money.

Still, they’ll get no sympathy from me. Especially considering NoA’s shenanigans.

I’m betting it won’t be, and instead they’ll port WiiU games.

A terrifying future to be sure.
I really hope Sony decides to make another portable. They have the weeb market locked down. They just need to advertise it as such.

They really do. Hell I have own twice as many games for my Vita I got a year and a half ago, than I do for the 3DS I bought on release day.

Although a possibly better timeline would be just those games go to PC. That’s already kinda starting to happen anyways.

This is it for Nintendo. Either the NX is a success or will go down like the Wii U. This is now the second console I bought from Nintendo, which got axed over a short period of time (the first one was the Gamecube). It just makes me mad how unprofessional this is and reminds me somehow to the point, where Sony gave up on the PS3 and brought out the PS4, while the PS3 powers were not even fully used.

Because of things like that, people will ignore new consoles or companies and possibly go to the PC to get their games.

The problem is that most of those games are made for a handheld in mind.
Like for instance I dont see much the point of porting Shinovi versus on PC and not Estival Versus (PS4 version) instead

You missed his point.

I fully agree. I won’t be buying anything for my 3DS or buy any type of consoles until Nintendo finally decides to whom they’re trying to cater.

Most gamers are young adults to middle aged, so I don’t see why they’re trying to focus only on children when that’s basically the smaller demographic.

It’s almost as if they don’t know their games are mostly bought by adults.

Yeah, they enjoy being treated like children.

I have some good titles of my jap n3DS (Rhythm Tengoku the Best, Toshi Toshin, Ex Troopers, Kenka Bacho, Stella Glow, Bravely Default/Second, OP UC, Rune Factory 4) but yeah a good chunk of its library is either only available there or as a version without censorship/shit translations. So if you own a western 3DS, you’re screwed unless you install the CFW.

The thing is, even more companies seem to be hoping on the cenorshit train, even when they don’t they butcher the writing. The only two companies I can think that are decent, are IFI and Xseed. IFI isn’t even that great, the best thing about them is they seem to listen to feedback.

Nintendo needs 3rd party support. Them being the only suppliers of games is just not a good thing. It limits them way too much.

If Sony was the only one making games for the Vita or PS4, those consoles would be awful. Same with MS and the Xbone.

Nintendo focusing on children is perfectly fine. I’d say when it comes to games for kids, they’re really good at making them accessible to them but still enjoyable and memorable. They’re not licensed shovelware trash that most kids will grow up and think “boy, that game was pretty shit.”. Kids may be a smaller demographic, but they deserve games too.

They need other developers that focus on other audiences though. And possibly diversifying their own development teams and going out of their comfort zone a bit.

Hardwarewise it was actually a piece of a shit compared to the Playstation since they bolted on the 3D capabilities at the last minute making it a nightmare to code for.

It had some good games though. Sadly allot of them came too late or stayed in Japan.

Disclaimer: i had a Saturn. Stayed loyal to Sega untill RE2 came out for the PSone.

Nintendo cares more about building a theme park then their adult audience,Nintendo is dead.

Sanshiro only protects the NTSC-J Saturn. I’m only bashing the NTSC-U one.

Its almost too weird to be real. Than again so was the Wiimote when it was revealed.

I personally dislike it because it can’t stream out of the box unlike all the other consoles, so I can’t record my own gameplay unless I payed $150 for extra hardware modifications.
The online in the games I play is terrible, laggy, disconnection errors and no ranks or leaderbords or MMR.
And when my gamepad broke I had to buy another one, for $100, only to use the system. Even though I don’t use the gamepad to play at all, even though I didn’t want it, without the gamepad the system’s settings and UI cannot be navigated by design, due to how Nintendo made it work. An on screen keyboard option would have solved the issue with a patch but they just didn’t care.

So even though it is the console I play the most it is the console that treats me as a customer the worst as well.

hmm :/ i really like my wii u as gaming console… lets hope we get some clear news from nintendo soon.

I’m talking mainly when they bring games in the west, should have been clear.

Still more titles than PS4.

Amen to that man,PSP is my favorite aswell.

Quit trying to still suck off Nintendo.

On what alternate universe??

Sold more then the Dreamcast but only because it was longer supported so actually compared in the same time sold worse then the Dreamcast.

Good riddance.

Maybe I’ll try to beat all my wiiU games over the summer and trade it all in, and then buy an xbox 1 to complete my cycle of fucking up.

I’m done with Nintendo. If they want only children and sjws than they can have them.

So with Spybox One doing horrible and the Wii U being shut down, I guess Sony has the biggest game in console land.

That’s not good. I hope something else rises to fight back because the last thing we want is not only “consolization” but to have games essentially enthrall to a Playstation monopoly.

The market only thrives in competition…

Disgusting image used in this article, very unprofessional. Not surprised to see that Brandon wrote it.

Also disgusting comments too.

Bitch to program for? WTF are you on. The PS3 was a bitch to program for. The Wii/Wii U aren’t.

I know right! HOW FUCKING DARE people have different opinions!!!! BRB calling the fbi

Neogaf might be your alley for special snowflakes like you.

Are you European?

A monopoly is never a good thing for the customers.

Which becomes even more silly if you start to think about it. Protect from what? Digital boobies? Simulated violence?

I’d be better off.

But they taste better than the bad PC called PS4.

It’s either they allow it, and receive backlash.

Or they don’t, and get made fun of for it.

Every game worth something on PS4 is also on PC?Bullshit!Tastes are subjective and since i don’t care for Nintendo games i could also answer you their games arent worth much.See how that goes?

That sucks, l know the WII-U has been out for a while but l think it managed to get a decent library of games this past year, oh well at least the new Star Fox is on the horizon.

Name one game (that’s in America) that is NOT on PC and for the PS4 that justifies buying it.

Try.

3 new Vita games arrive this week from play asia.
Honestly i don’t miss Western AAA games on it,not one bit.

They bring in sjws to get the kiddies just look at Alison.

would you consider PC competition?

Persona 5,Ni no kuni 2,Last Guardian,Guilty Gear,Star Ocean 5,Yakuza Zero,DOAX3….i could go on and on.The Wii U has nothing if you don’t care for Ninti games while the PS4 still has more then enough if you don’t like GT,Killzone,GOW and co.

-Senran Kagura won’t stop coming to PC after Shinovi Versus
-Going by how the Yakuza announcements were handled last year, they don’t seem to be full exclusives
-GD/GR series has amazing artwork, but the games don’t live up to much of anything at all – as tends to be typical of Sony’s first party
-FFF Vanilla is already on Steam, Advent Dark Force will inevitably follow
-DoAX3 we probably won’t see on PC, year, or any platform in the West
-Hundred Knight Revival seems likely to hit PC given NISA’s new course, and of all the games they have to offer it’s a rather PC-minded one gameplay-wise to begin with

As far as Vita-shared games go:
-Exist Archive and Grand Kingdom seem set to end up on PC, looking at how Spike Chunsoft is rapidly embracing the platform
-Vanillaware stuff is likely to end up on PC after they said they were “exploring a solution” to bring their games there last year
-Ys has been a known entity on Steam for a couple of years now, isn’t going away

Honestly the only games that might stay exclusive to Playstation platforms are Cyber Sleuth and maybe the upcoming Summon Night 6, which seems to be more due Bandai Namco being completely inconsistent than anything else.

But kids and sjws don’t go together. I have no idea what you’re getting at.

Imagine babies seeing their moms boobs while breastfeeding;traumatized for life.

Was sarcasm bro,i know we are the ones with purchase power not children and sjws.To get to the amount each of a single one here spend in a year on games you would need alot of sjw’s and kids.

You seem to be putting words into a PC gamer’s mouth again, as you seem so fond of doing lately~

Edit: Also, please do listen to Para-kun already and stop editting your posts so much.

No problem,probably also comes from the fact you don’t know me here so it’s always hard to tell.

Its accurate. Name another video game website that doesn’t use lighthearted jabs in photos or headlines. Just mad because its likely your favourite company this time.

A friend of mine regrets having bought the Vita because he believed the PS3 in your pocket thing,he feels betrayed by Sony.He’s not a fan of Japanese games.I just answered him that AAA’s would never succeed on a handheld,jap games do.Any gamer with a bit of experience would know that.

>Nagato need to upvote his own comment screencaped
lel

So Wii-U’s Zelda game is for sure gonna be an NX exclusive.

>Being that fucking autismal mad over edits
No wonder why you’re a friend of that other autist

The WiiU most definitely is, due to its unique architecture. It is both weaker and different from the rest.

Also the odd hardware must be an extra difficulty layer.
And on top of it all, the weaker online features mean they can’t easily port the same multiplayer experience.

Character customization options, overall many lines of dialogue and symbolisms were changed.
Many outfits removed.

Look I am not going to argue about the gravity of those changes because that is subjective.

But the fact is that merely doing those changes does qualify as not treating the audience as adults, which was the subject at hand.

They could have just not done those changes, simple.
But t hey chose to do them.

Not doing it would only get them the same backlash they got anyway despite doing it.

But as a bonus they damaged the game and also got bonus backlash for it.

One option is win- lose and the other option is lose-lose-lose.

They chose poorly.

No problem,nothing about your post was negative.

The Xbox team learned from their mistake from their catastrophic E3 and listened to the gamers.
Dropped mandatory online,dropped Kinect,dropped the price.By then it was too late because the damage was done but they showed they listen to feedback.

Nintendo were told to make the pad optional and they said no just like to any fan feedback afterwards.

Sony actually of all the 3 cares the most about gamers,it’s thanks to them that we get the Yakuza series again here since Sega thinks it’s not profitable enough.

>not playing only jap versions of games in all the platforms
Too bad gaijin :^)

Of all the games he listed only Yakuza 0 is out in the Japan. For all we know Persona 5 will end up being a massive turd.
Also Last Gardian is the modern day Duke Nuke’em Forever and we all know how that game ended up

Only listed the games i like,not gona list Bloodborne since i don’t care.

Wonder if the NX will be BC with Wii and WiiU titles…

For anyone still thinking they learn from their mistakes i’m just gona leave this here;

http://www.vg247.com/2015/01/22/nintendo-bosses-do-not-really-understand-modern-gaming-says-former-executive/

So, the same year we are getting Legend of Zelda, and StarFox, they’re shutting down production of the console those first party games are on?

That raises a lot of questions about the longevity of support for those titles.

E3 is always interesting…

But, I agree, with Nintendo entering a new console, Microsoft needing to step up its game, and Sony needing to keep its momentum strong, this’ll be one to watch closely.

Bloodborne.

That was easy.

Given all the rumors point to it being some kind of mobile hybrid, it’s going to be trash.

Problem is, if it’s going to be backwards compatible, it has to come with a Gamepad. If it comes with a Gamepad, people aren’t going to buy it (like they didn’t buy the Wii U) and it’ll bump the price up a lot.

They’re in a Kinect situation, of their own making.

Untrue. Platform competition usually does nothing but hurt consumers, as the 3 console marketplace has hurt gaming.

If competition is always good, tell me, how did HD-DVD vs Blu Ray help consumers?

Hahahaha you think Zelda is coming this year and not whenever the NX release date is.

Blaming SJWs for Nintendo’s decision is simply unfair. It’s Nintendo’s call to choose for their audience, it’s what they’ve done since the Wii with localizations. The fault is solely’s Nintendo, they promised a console for mature audiences and a few months into launch they didn’t have a clue of which direction to go into~.

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If you saw in my other post, I said THAT ISN’T BLOODBORNE.

I forgot to write that in this one too.

Try again.

Competition amongst platforms splits the audience, increasing risk for developers.

More choice is not always better.

~~~~~Don’t copy my squiggly~~~~
And it’s NoA that decided to remove the boob sliding feature from Xenoblade, not the Japanese branch. If it was truly Nintendo as whole that wanted it, the feature would be removed from all regions. The same goes for FE, SMT × FE, and so on.

Audience is always split no matter where you go,i don’t see that as a bad thing.We don’t have the same tastes afterall,thankfully.About devs and risks i just tell you it’s due to the own stupidity/greed of publishers.Keep your dev costs reasonable and it’s fine.Just because a game cost more money to produce doesnt make it better.When i see how much Destiny cost i just shake my head.

As I’ve said elsewhere, the best eras of gaming (PS1/PS2) were marked by the least platform competition and lowest publisher risk.

When you have to make your game multiplatform, you can’t optimize for one and your dev costs go up.

Options the Wii U doesnt have.Not everyone likes Nintendo games so come of your high horse thinking they are the best because the Wii U production will be stopped,for a good reason,it flopped.
Nintendo hasnt been brilliant/creative in years and with each gen their sales drop.

Can’t believe I missed this news. And it will only get worse since Iwata (one of the most powerful voices in Nintendo) is gone.

Good point. It is one of the most contested features of the Wii U. Perhaps they can just port the games that only require a normal controller, but that is just speculation on my part.

Its a report, not a rumor so….

I guess you haven’t heard about the multiple articles by Gawker and Salon defending pedos.

Your point? Nobody’s forcing NoA’s arm, and NoA is still a part of Nintendo as a whole. There’re no SJWs excuses. Nintendo of America made bad choices, their fault. Nobody else’s just like Tecmo / Koei made the stupid choice of leaving DoAX3 in Japan / Asia~.

>A Sony monopoly would really be nothing but good for us

You’re killing me.

It saddens me that the only platform that will come out of this gen entirely unscathed are mobile phones.

So, how does these things work? Should I be worried about finding a new power block for my Wii U if mine breaks or if I won’t be able to buy a Pro Controller anymore BEFORE the NX is even released? Because that would be some giant bullshit.

Also, what happened to “We will support the Wii U for a while even after the NX releases?” statements?

Never once have I said they’re the best. I have a Wii U and I barely play it.

I’m only saying they’re not the worst.

Nintendo has, and always will have the most memorable characters.

People will always love and recognize Mario.

Nathan Drake? Think I went to school with a Nathan Drake.

Master Chief? Isn’t that a cooking show?

Want to talk about sales drops? Talk about the PS Vita.

That thing is a failure compared to the 3DS, which is my go to handheld.

Let’s not forgot that the Wii was EXTREMELY successful. The Wii U just didn’t click.

Because it’s the only good game on the system. My point is that there aren’t enough games to justify buying it.

Bloodborne is great, but not worth a whole console.

No one is forcing them, they are making the calls themselves. NoA doesn’t want icky adults on there consoles, just snot nosed brats that play COD and GTA anyway and thier man children fanboys. Tecmo got scared of SJW bs, retracted liscensing, and now are witnessing explosive popularity on the title through imports. This game would be butchered to high hell if the western branch got it’s hands on it. As for Nintendo, you can only make so many “bad choices” until your agenda slips out~

I thought everyone loved Zelda…

I’m guessing that excludes Britain, Sweden, Germany, and France?

I think Nintendo needs to learn how to advertise their systems. I remember seeing a bunch of Wii commercials years ago all the time even way after it launched, but I hardly saw any Wii U commercials since it’s release compared to the PS4 and XBONE advertisement.
And also fix the deal with region lock, but that will probably never happen.

Nintendo is still producing Wii U’s though you guys are still welcome to bitch about about the company.
http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-denies-report-of-wii-u-ceasing-production-this-year/

Hey just wanna add that Nintendo are, according to Deadtaku and Engadget, denying all claims of Wii U halting production.
http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/22/hyper-light-drifter-is-set-to-launch-at-the-end-of-the-month/

If game developers started returning to the PC with fervor then I would agree, but do note that at that time development for PC was still a decent market (likely because gaming had yet to become so Hollywood and “piracy” had yet to become easily accessible) and Nintendo was still around making sales for the N64.

With the advent of DRM and the insane sales of the Wii attracting the common non-gamer crowds we got less focus on PC and more focus on consoles, which led to the consolization we see today, as I figure it.

Maybe if Sony had a monopoly on consoles but not dev studios, then perhaps we could get even major devs actually caring for PC due to the sheer tyrannical ego Sony would inevitably exude with that dominance.

Then again, I speak as an American. We’re talking mainly Japanese games and devs here, and the Jap game industry’s biggest issue isn’t consoles but pachinko and mobile phone app games.

It would delete important files on your system, making it unusable :^)

On a related note, I remember that Rayman 2 on PC would inflict serious damage on your computer if you tried to modify files, but I dunno if the problem is still present on recent releases.

Knowing that it’s actually OoT Link makes that scene so much more heart warming

Since when and on what Nintendo console “adult gamers” were rejected?

Never said rejected. I’m sure they tolerate it, but don’t care if we stay or leave. How else am I to interpret some of their decisions lately?

(Spoiler alert: Not really interested in having this conversation with someone that can’t form a complete sentence. Fortunately for you, you don’t need to look too far to find examples of what I’m talking about.)

Why buy a Nintendo console if you can buy a Playstation? The PS4 will be supported for ten years, have every 3rd party title and support online.

The wiiU caters to Nintendo fans, turns out there are not enough of those.

I gave up on Nintendo. Had a 3DS XL, but with so many bad decisions (amiibo DLC, new 3DS with no charger, exclusive new 3DS games…) I was disapponted and decided to go full Sony with Vita and PS4.

Steam has a near monopoly. Steam has saved PC gaming. Monopolies are not always bad, regardless of what your Econ class will tell you.

Yeah, Sega failed. Then Sony came along and took the market from Nintendo, and you should know the rest.

Enjoy the one good game available on PS4, buddy.

What missing customisation features? The breast-slider is the only one that got out, very tragic.

The only costumes that where removed where the bikinis,and considering that Lin is a 13 year old girl and countries like the EU that have tight guidelines on the representation of minors in media, its removable is understandable.

As for the removal of the religion references, yeah it’s only the BLADE acronym and thats it, big whoop. The JPN ver. actually doesn’t go very deep into religious symbolism, and instead goes neck deep into exploring the theme of transhumanism. The new BLADE acronym is descriptive of what BLADE actually does in the story, as opposed to their philosophy, so it doesn’t hinder the experience of Xenoblade X. Not to mention the ver we get includes the DLC for free.

Look, it’s a long shot from the bullshit that Treehouse pulled on Fates and what Sega did with the Yakuza series.

Oh wow that definitely takes me back.

In the article is points out how Nintendo denies rumours that wind up true so I’ll consider it true.

Yeah and it still didn’t have a monopoly because Nintendo kept fighting and staying relevant in the market. Don’t confuse taking #1 in sales as being the only option left in the market which is what a monopoly is. You would’ve failed economics 101.

You’re underestimating Nintendo back then. They were still powerful juggernaughts by virtue of being in Sony’s spot in the handheld market. Not to mention their first party titles which also keep them afloat. If it weren’t for third party devs jumping into the Sony ship, they would’ve gone the way of the 3Dodo.