Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooo

It isn’t so much the localization but the story of Fates itself isn’t even that good. This result honestly doesn’t surprise me that much.

It’s like Ninty was surprised at how well Awakening went for them that they forgot how to make a FE game story worth a damn.

In the UK you get something called an injunction. You can’t say X, but you can say you’ve been injunctioned for something.
You also have super-injunctions, where you can’t even acknowledge you’ve been gagged.

I suspect that Nintendo of America has performed a Cease and Desist, and has threatened the translation group with legal action if they acknowledge it.

Here’s where to complain about the “quality” of Fire Emblem:
(If this is too long, I am happy to edit this comment and put the following content in a pastebin/ghostbin)

Nintendo Phone Numbers:
USA and Canada: 1-800-255-3700
Latin America and Caribbean (001) 425-558-7078
UK +44 (0)345 60 50 247 “(Calls are charged at the National Rate)”
Nintendo of Europe: +49 69 6677470
French Phone Number: 08 92 68 77 55 Service 0,40€ /min + prix appel
Spain: 917886498
Portugal: 21 112 9511
Schweiz, Suisse, and Svizzera : 056 203 14 20
Austria: 01 25300070
Deutsch: 069-66105 900
Netherlands 0909-0490444
Belgium: 0900 10800 (0,45 € la minute)
Russia: +7 495 287 77 97
South Africa: (011) 390 7002 (Calls are charged at the local rate to the caller)
Australia: (03) 9730 9822 and +61 3 9730 9900
New Zealand: 0800 743 056
Japan: 0570-021-010 and 0570-011-120

Nintendo Corporate Responsibility Email for USA:
https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/ask/ht/576/cp/599
I can say with experience that complaining about the localization of a product to them from this forum will at the very least get an email response acknowledging it.
Calling is best though.

UK Email Page
https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Contact/Contact/Contact-Form-106282.html
I’d recommended Other as the category
Email address :[email protected]

Spain Email
[email protected]

Portugal Email
eMail: [email protected] (utilizadores em geral)
eMail: [email protected] (pais e encarregados de educação)

Schweiz, Suisse, and Svizzera Email
[email protected]

Austria Email
[email protected]

Deutsch Email
[email protected]

Netherlands Email
[email protected]

Belgium Email
[email protected]

Russia Email
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

Italy Email
[email protected]
https://www.nintendo.it/Servizio-al-consumatore/Contatti/Contatti/Contatti-106282.html

South Africa Email
[email protected]

JAPANESE HQ:
Corporate HQ: 11-1 Hokotate-cho, Kamitoba, Minami-ku, Kyoto 601-8501, Japan

Development Center: 2-1 Minamimatsuda-cho, Higashikujo, Minami-ku, Kyoto 601-8502, Japan
TEL: +81-75-662-9600
(NoJ tends not to respond to western emails, recommending you only speak to NoA/NoE, etc)

Also speak to @mombot and @grummz who are a japanese translator and worked with localization in the past respectively.

Make your voice heard.

NoA meme’d their shit up

At least the opposite approach is still live (content restoration): http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=60728

It should bring approximatively the same result as patching the Japanese version minus the missing fan translation parts.

I don’t think that kind of thing is possible in the US, at least for private companies regarding non-employees.

I’d like to say that the team just gave up, but considering Nintendo’s track record with C&D, I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if they had anything to do with the project cancellation.

They probably got too much attention with the controversy surrounding the game too. They went from a small group doing a fan translation, to front and center in the battle.

I can’t blame them for wanting to drop it or anything but reading that thread, the one making the announcement comes across like an arrogant, overly-confrontational asshole regarding the whole situation.

“Deal with it. We don’t feel the need to justify ourselves. If you want to accuse us for dropping a project that we joined to work on in our own free time, then you should reconsider.”

How much more of an asshole can you sound like?

Yep. That’s something I noticed too. Makes it hard to believe they got C&D’d, because if they did, why would you then go on to make yourself look like an ass?

I think the more likely situation is they got lazy, have nothing new to show, and are lashing out now. “Burned out” lol. Scummy way to behave.

“Also, we will be sending our files to someone who wishes to continue the project. You can get it there later.”

After reading their forums, the leader of their “group” just comes off like an asshole. Interesting that he’d contradict himself like that though.

>His first post is all: “We’re keeping our work”
>After some blowback: “We’re handing it off to mystery group X you can grab it at X time”

Doesn’t even say who/when/where. The way he’s acting, doesn’t sound at all reliable or trustworthy so… ╮(─▽─)╭

Because I don’t know how
Hell if you can give some pointers that would be baller. My mom actually attempted to teach me Japanese before English but changed her mind when she wanted me to learn something useful first. I figured it’d be nice to continue her work.

>any work created will be retained by the group
WHY
H
Y

what a masive ponce. I fully respect someone coming forward and saying “I’m burnt out and don’t wanna work on this anymore” but why the weird passive-aggressive anger?

these obscure nintendo-hacking communities have such weird behavioral issues it seems.

bummer. was hoping this would turn out. would have been the only way i would have played this game

They’re also a bunch of whinny faggots besides being “burned out”.

http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=56220&p=4292166 <- Me asking a few questions, now follow the string…

Important bits:

http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=56220&p=4293380

http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=56220&p=4294090

Then there's this:

http://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/49czzc/nichegamer_released_their_review_of_this_game/d0qvaj2?context=3

Basically, I believe I am part of the reason these fuckers are stopping, because they're a bunch of sandy vaginas. It's not the first time they've shit on their fans.

moonrunes are hard

Incredibly disappointing. Weren’t they close to being finished?

I get this feeling that Nintendo lawyers stepped in.

No idea, but I now see a pattern with editors in localizations/fan translations being complete utter dickheads.

For translators, I have no opinion yet.

They cant handle the fame/attention i guess.
Same with that VC3 fan patch. Got allot of attention, took forever and in the end it they tossed out a pretty half assed patch and called it a day.

And yeah i know noone owes these people shit but if they lose intrest in the project, they should just be honest about it and dont act like a massive asshole.
But being an obnoxous primma donna seems to be a common fan translator trait.

Well this really sucks for any real fan of the game that was patiently waiting for it to come out.

But no big deal, someone else will probably find a way.
Either a different translation team finishes it or the restoration patch for the english version fixes it.

Wont this leave you with the god awful treehouse translation rewrite?

I told myself that too. They’re undeserving of any sympathy.

Wow, they really sound like assholes.

Well shit, looks like I’m not playing this anytime soon

*sigh* We’ve had our own reasons of stopping. This was way before the whole debate with the localization even happened and it’s defnitely wasn’t partly because of you, at all.

To be very honest, we didn’t do much over the past few months. After we finished translating the third path, things got a lot slower and many of us started getting busy with real life. It just wasn’t in our interest to continue much at that point. We were already thinking about stopping.

Then, when the game came out in the US, the whole debate with localization vs. fan-translation was getting very out of hand, so that also contributed to us stopping. People arguing and complaining about the localization and putting the fan-translation on a pedestal. Okay, so the localization has errors and problems, and what? We have a lot more grammar errors and typos than the localization, not even half of the support conversations translated, plenty of bugs, and many other miscellaneous stuff untranslated.

We didn’t want all this drama to happen at all. We just wanted to create a patch for those that imported the game and have it be playable to them if they can’t read what the menus and items say. Everything else, like the story and stuff, was just extra and something we wanted to do for fun.

Plus, “whinny faggots”? I really don’t want to hear that from you when you keep whining and being freaking entitled that you should have gotten the game the way it should have been. I’m surprised you even linked that Reddit post. Because you had a lot more sand in your worn out vagina about the localization. https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/49czzc/nichegamer_released_their_review_of_this_game/d0qvaj2?context=3#d0qsj76

Either way, what’s done is done.

No they arent
It’s actually more the way textbooks and most sources are trying to teach you (especially the kanji part as if the authors really hated your guts) that is fucked and hard

“*sigh* We’ve had our own reasons of stopping. This was way before the whole debate with the localization even happened and it’s defnitely wasn’t because of you, at all.”

Oh well, I did say “I think I’m part of the reason”. That’s somewhat good then.

“To be very honest, we didn’t do much over the past few months. After we finished translating the third path, things got a lot slower and many of us started getting busy with real life. It just wasn’t in our interest to continue much at that point. We were already thinking about stopping.”

it could have just been better to tell people about it and not the way you guys did it.

Like “We’ll not give you guys what we finished.” is not the best way to do it.

“Then, when the game came out in the US, the whole debate with localization vs. fan-translation was getting very out of hand, so that also contributed to us stopping. People arguing and complaining about the localization and putting the fan-translation on a pedestal.”

OK, now I’m starting to see issues. I have no other way to define this besides “stupid”.

So what if we’ve put it on a pedestal? The fan translation in most cases was more accurate than the localization, I preferred it over the shitty localization.

So did everyone else that looked over your patch and wanted to get away from dank memes.

“Okay, so the localization has errors and problems, and what?”

…?

Dude, I think I gave you an entire album with the changes in the localization. it’s not a few “errors and problems”, almost everything is shit in it.

“We have a lot more grammar errors and typos than the localization,”

You’re not professionals, you said you’ll fix it, I see no problem.

THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS, THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY EXCUSE. THEY ARE BEING PAID. THEY ARE GIVING US SHIT.

How many times do I have to tell you THIS before you can get it in your head?

“not even half of the support conversations translated, plenty of bugs, and many other miscellaneous stuff untranslated.”

And you said you’ll finish them. AGAIN, we were waiting patiently. So what’s the problem?

“We didn’t want all this drama to happen at all. We just wanted to create a patch for those that imported the game and have it be playable to them if they can’t read what the menus and items say.”

Dude, you guys had nothing to do with the drama. You self-inserted yourselves into this for no reason. What pressure did you guys get?

None at all, since you weren’t part of the discussions. No, let’s take this another way…

Everyone that put you into this discussion did not need you to be in it anyway, you could not only ignore it, but could also just avoid it and commit to the work you claimed you would do.

“Everything else, like the story and stuff, was just extra and something we wanted to do for fun.”

No one said they’re not fine with you stopping the project.

Why you did it though, and the way you reacted is another story. I think I was pretty clear in that same thread.

“Plus, “whinny faggots”?”

You and Shadow at least. Although the admin of your team also has a stick up his ass. Maybe not only one, I have to ask…

The reason I didn’t talk to you like this on Serenes Forest or the subreddit is because I like to fit the rules… Don’t worry, here it’s fair play.

“I really don’t want to hear that from you when you keep whining and being freaking entitled that you should have gotten the game the way it should have been.”

As I said, this argument is shit because we’re not “entitled”, you can’t be entitled when you are a customer. You’re paying money for a product, if the product is faulty, you have every right to complain.

“I’m surprised you even linked that Reddit post. Because you had a lot more sand in your worn out vagina while about the localization. https://www.reddit.com/r/firee…”

I have nothing to hide after all. :^)

“Either way, what’s done is done.”

Indeed, hopefully your team leader keeps his word and gives the project to someone that is responsible.

You somehow miss the whole #torrentialdownpour campaign?
Hes hardly the only one that think the official localisation is a massive piece of shit that has allot more wrong with it than “just a few errors”.

That’s really a shame…at least the restoration patch still in the work…
i’m way more fond of literal translation in general, than a Full Bad rewrite than NoA propose, i can forgive typos in fan translation but NOT in Official translation, Why? it’s their job they are getting paid for it,

Maybe the Fan translation should open a Paypal for Donation or something like that. but well it’s too late for that.

Way to pull that dick move calling consumers entitled because a product people paid for turned out faulty. After reading the article and looking over the reddit posts, as someone who’s coming into this from a 3rd person perspective it sounds like you guys just simply didnt have the competence to pull off the project. If you guys aren’t able to handle the valid issues thats being discussed about the game that you have to dick ride Nintendo to defend them ( which itself is suspicious), then I think fan translation….or anything related to gaming isnt your field. Dont take the door, go out the window.

Much appreciated

Anyone who really cares about Japanese games should just bite the bullet and learn Japanese instead of relying on fan translations anyway.

Very few Japanese only games get fan translations, especially nowadays as game software gets more complicated, and even fewer get retranslations when the official localization is totally fucked up.

Again, we’ve had several reasons as to why we stopped. And we were already talking about stopping before the US version came out. One of the main reason is that we just lost motivation after translating the third path, Revelation/Invisible Kingdom. The whole drama just pushed it even further to making us stop. We are very aware of how disappointed some people are for us stopping.

Anyway, some other group may come out and continue where we stopped. There aren’t any guarantees or promises, but you guys may be lucky.

Holy crap. After seeing one of the translators comment down here, the team comes off as a bunch of egotistical douche-nozzles.

“Deal with it. We don’t feel the need to justify ourselves.”

They’re starting to sound like that guy overprotective asshat that used to work on the Sonic 2 HD Remake.

Pass off the work you did to someone else. We’re supposed to be a damn community translating things because the powers that be are against us. Now because you can’t finish the translation entirely with only your own group you’re gonna actively spike the efforts to get a fan translation done in a timely manner. This smells more of cowardice.

Isn’t it cool how he was falsely civil on your forum? This is how he acts all the time here. It’s insufferable.

Ah, time for a bunch of people to get mad at other people who were doing work completely for free in their spare time. I see this kind of entitlement all the time on anime fansubs.

Sounds like you have fans.

He’s a faggot from another forums I frequent. He got assblasted there so hard that he left.

Yeah, I have no issues with telling people I’m an asshole, because that’s what I am.

One thing I’m not, is autistic though. That was a picture descriptive of you.

The Fire Emblem subreddit is known cancer where the only logical thing to do is the following.

I fully agree with this.

So how do you go about the Kanji part other than brute forcing it with Anki? Heisigs Remembering the Kanji makes me wanna punch shit.

As if nintendo magically knows what they have and haven’t done…

How do I learn efficiently, your weeabooness? Please, dont say Daily Japanese Thread.

Lol, please this isn’t as fucking bad the visual novel fantranslation community. By the gods are they fucking horrendous, and one prime example if Insem who worked on translating Dracu-Riot. He and his team worked on the patch for a year or two, said that only one route was needed to be done (they only released one route), said they only had one route left to finish.

>MIA for 4 whole months with no updates or any news with the logbook they had. Came back, and said we’re gonna drop this.

>People ask for the unfinished patch dump so another team can work on it. They said nope fuck you.

>People egg them on twitter even for a while
>Says “fine” and will look for another team to translate instead of dumping the files
>1-2 years later…
>Nothing

Look I don’t really disagree that they aren’t obligated from continuing the patch and the whatnot, fine with that. But at the very least, please at least tell your fans who have been following your fantranslation patch a reason why you decide not to dump the files. Why not just dump the files anonymously if your afraid of admitting to C&D, or even just passing it to another team instead of saying “NOPE fuck you.”

Either way this was a huge fuckstorm, I don’t even wanna see the reddit thread if it even exists.

Indeed

Similar people tend to converge towards the same groups, don’t they? :^)

http://archive.is/QLszX

And they answered.

They’re bronies. That’s proof enough for their questionable work ethic and attitudes.

They think the entire non Japanese speaking world owes them favors and it gets worse the deeper they involve themselves in the project. I also conjecture that a lot of them are closet normies just by how much they love to blog about having “lives.”

Yeah, like we give a shit that you went to a bar and had a taste of normie life that you hardly ever get. You’re just as much of a loser as the rest of us.

So will this project continue or not? Seems like a new group is taking over.

I know. I can see some of the responses you had were questions and not insults. But I’m talking about the excuse given that you and a few others is enough for them to pretty much say fuck this and fuck you to everyone else. Like, how do they expect to be the bigger man in this situation if they are admitting that its only a few people pissing them off? -_-

So you are upset that people are upset with people who not only got peoples hopes up only to cut them out from under them. But did so in an extremely rude and condescending way and refuse to allow others to build off the work they did.

Thus all their donated time amounts to nothing, they didn’t give the community anything but empty promises… and the fact that this has upset people is wrong somehow. Maybe I’m just getting old but when someone makes a promise where I’m from they keep it, and if for some reason they can’t they make sure to arrange for someone else to finish off following through.

I’m not sure how the fact that they were donating their time has anything to do with anything.

You blab on about entitlement like people demanded these people make the patch, not that they took it on of their own accord and made promises they have decided not to follow through on. It isn’t entitlement to hold people to their word.

Japanese pen pal master race reporting in. I also have native Japanese friends who help me out.

Bronies are lazy?

They’re too busy talking about their favorite ponies it precedes everything important in their lives so yes, they are.

To be fair, they’ve been planning on quitting for a while now and it seems like even Immahnoob acknowledges that so they’re not necessarily quitting just because there are people, however many or few, that pissed them off.

However that doesn’t excuse acting like being asked questions that they don’t have an answer to (when will it be done) is entitlement.

I don’t know what the hell is going on in your group, but it’s pretty clear to me that there’s something affecting your ability to work on the title that you’re not telling anyone.

You lost the drive to work on the translation because people are holding your translation to a pedestal? Umm… What the fuck?

Your efforts to translate the title got more recognition and respect than what most fan translators would ever dream of getting. I’ve seen multiple instances where fan translators have ended up quitting due to a lack of motivation because they never got enough respect and recognition, not the other goddamned way around.

Okay, so you’re not sure what is the deal with Treehouse’s localization. So what? If I was the one working on the patch people began to grow confident that I can create something even better than what was officially put out, then I’d be using that as motivation to put out the best damned translation I can get.

Okay, you were never fully committed to the patch at first. So why did you even bother in the first place? Even if it were the case, if there was anything to actually motivate you to actually commit yourselves, it should’ve been the respect you got from fans: The very fucking respect that you’re blaiming fans for making you quit.

Most fan translators never even receive half the praise or appreciation for their work as you did. Most fan translators would’ve been greatful if they received even a fraction of fan respect as you did.

Yet you use that recognition and praise not as a motivator, but rather as an excuse to blame your fans for making you quit what you yourself started?

Wow, you’re a fucking piece of shit if I ever saw one.

“I really don’t want to hear that from you when you keep whining and
being freaking entitled that you should have gotten the game the way it
should have been.”

I miss when “entitled” wasn’t ran into the ground by candyassed idiots.

I have to give you props though, for trying to engage in a rational conversation with a bunch of fanatic apologists in their nest. You probably expected the conversation to go as well as it did and did it anyway. So… thanks for that.

Well that sucks and the new info our fair fellow commenters here are posting does shine light on more reasons why, BUT they did ultimately accomplish most of their goal, with the main story of all three routes translated and much of the Supports translated (especially the sibling ones).
Good enough for me, though I wish it could continue.

To close:
“…Being freaking entitled that you should have gotten the game the way it should have been.”
You mean the Treehouse rape of the source material? I hope you don’t mean that, because it is purely logical that, yes, when we pay for a product we want that product not some Marxist Bazinga!! trash (with CUT CONTENT).

I am paying money for a “thing”. I am thus entitled to “thing”.
If “thing” is not really “thing” but instead “ThAngZ” then I have been ripped-off.

“I’m surprised you even linked that Reddit post.
Because you had a lot more sand in your worn out vagina about the localization.”
The localization is TRASH and EVERYONE knows it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgD2L4ucsLY

Kanjidamage does make the 漢字 a lot more easier to learn as it focuses on radicals. Basically if you learn 言（*う – to say）you should able to see the same stroke used in 読(*む – to read) or 語 (language) which are less or more related to the thema of language, or being able to read compound words by yourself as you expand your kanji knowledge. Reminder that some combination of strokes or characters wont make much sense (like 談 for ‘to consult’ which use the radical 炎 for flame/fire), or are just downright comical (like 痴漢 which literally mean a chinese molester for a ‘train pervert’), but it will a lot more easier to remember once you see the patterns and not just as complete new words with random use of strokes.

Learning kanji with brute force (like most sources are trying to teach you) is like teaching a young kid complete words without teaching him/her the alphabet letters first.

What I said above to DizzyGear (as well to Fenrir below) about it.

Sounds like he wants the D

People prefer the fan translation because we don’t like the way that characters were rewritten or how serious lines of dialogue were replaced with memes, lame humour, or sometimes even nothing at all.

I have played many mangled translations which failed due to a lack of talent, but Nintendo’s official translation seems to fail on purpose – which is immeasurably worse.

This is the worst and most lazy localisation that I have seen in a very long time.

He sounds like a massive cuck!

All’s well that ends well!

That’s cool. Thanks.

Fucking cowards

why even start the dam project then chicken out half way

when you get the project to the point of doing the majority minus the 3rd branch you just do not decide to stop, and can’t be bothered

why even start the dam Project in the first place

Just Make the current translation files Public, that way Some People can actually finish the job you were too lazy to Finish

Nintendo fans will buy anything.

No problem, it’s not the first time I interacted with the circlejerk that is /r/FireEmblem anyway.

My first time was on the matter of “censorship” as a whole.

These people can’t keep up in any argument.

If you pay for something you’re ENTITLED to get a good product. Otherwise demand money back.

Jeez how entitled do you have to be to not appreciate E.T. despite its flaws and errors? Aren’t you a Speilberg fan? DO YOU WANT THE INDUSTRY TO COLLAPSE? Gamers are such pieces of shit.

/s

Yeah I haven’t played any since Radiant Dawn (mostly because I didn’t have a 3ds when awakening hit) but I’m not a big fan of the direction it went either.

I’m not above fanservice and pandering and all that jazz (I’m a Neptunia fan ffs 🤐), but I prefer to keep it separate from games that have compelling stories and characters and where I find myself actually getting invested in.

That said, since it’s the direction they’re going, they might as well go full bore with it. Which is why I really question why they took out the face touching thing among other things. Now you have this product that is half-assed in all regards.

And yeah, that DLC is pure bs but it’s pretty much guaranteed profit as people will lap it up.

I’m not upset. I laugh at the whining.

I laugh at the fact that you think they PROMISED anything.

Saying “all their donated time amounts to nothing” is a lie as it is, because they did release most of what they’d finished.

“We ended this project without considering its popularity. We ended it
because, to put it simply, we’re done. We won’t be working on it
anymore. ”
-“We ended this project because we ended it.”
Thanks, Captain Obvious. Try giving an actual explanation next time.

It’s simple: don’t give people expectations that you won’t be able to meet. When you do fail to meet them, people will be upset at your incompetence. That’s how the world works. Call it entitlement all you want. Entitlement is not a dirty word.

While that does not seem to be the case anymore, what is a canary warrant?

From my interpretation of the forum posts, they had already released parts of the translation they had already finished, but hadn’t gotten to the support conversations.

How far along are you? Can you play a VN already?

His responses were responding to passive aggressive comments by resident asshole “If they didn’t have rules I’d act like a piece of shit all the time” Immahnoob though. I didn’t see many unreasonable things in the postings.

I mean, everything he said was absolutely correct. You can take exception to their attitude, but it was only in response to the entitlement. I’ve seen countless fansubbers over the years tell commenters to take a walk after demanding “progress updates” it’s not abnormal in the slightest. I mean, look below. One of their people came and calmly explained their progress and people are still whining and calling them faggots. I’d tell such people to shut the fuck up too.

Hey, apparently we are internet famous now.

Anyway, your interpretation and others interpretation don’t seem to match, perhaps it was not made clear for everyone

I’m 100% these guys didn’t pay for shit tho