Report: Capcom Censored Female Characters in Street Fighter V to Avoid Offending People


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Previously, we reported on how R.Mika’s taunt was changed to not show her butt slap (despite the sound effect still playing). We had reached for a comment at the time, but had received no response.

Now, Street Fighter V producer Yoshinori Ono went on record and explained why the change was made.

In an interview with Brazilian outlet UOL Jogos (with translations provided by NeoGAF user Moraizen), the reason for the change was to not alienate their potential audience. From the interview:

Our objective with Street Fighter ’ is to start over from zero[…] We want the professional players and the casual fans of the series to return, but we also want to reach those who have never even touched a fighting game. So we can’t have something in the game that makes people think, “This is not acceptable.”

According to him the decision was not made due to external forces, but rather was a decision made internally.

We didn’t make any change because of external influences[…]Those changes came up internally. We decided to remove that because we want the biggest possible number of people to play, and we don’t want to have something in the game that might make someone uncomfortable.

When asked what the objective of the company was, Ono explains that it’s to have characters that people can enjoy but not be put off by.

Probably we won’t be able to remove everything that could offend someone. But our goal is, at least, to reduce that number as much as possible so that they think ‘Ok, there is this issue here, but it is within the limits’. We want that everyone can play and enjoy without worrying about anything else.

Street Fighter V is launching for PS4 and PC February 16th, 2016.

How do you guys feel about the explanation of the changes being made? Is this censorship? Sound off in the comments below!

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  • Immahnoob

    So, who wants to burn SJWs on crosses now?

  • Dr.Weird

    I’ve been trying to get people on board for that for years now.

  • Mr0303

    What a waste of crosses that would be.

  • Dr.Weird

    Having fun is never a waste of time, besides, think of how priceless seeing them baw their little faggy heads off while you nail them on to it would be.

  • Nin

    True. Chaining them to concrete and throwing them in the ocean would suffice

  • Mr0303

    Are they seriously worth the concrete? 😛
    I’d go with a rusty blade for maximum damage.

  • Leandro Teixeira

    How about going to an alley, find a discarted syringe with AIDS and stab every SJW in the planet with it? It’s free, highly effective and they would suffer a slow painful death

  • Mr0303

    Cruel and creative. Very cost effective. I like it.

  • http://xerw.deviantart.com/ XERW

    I’m going to argue that they’ll probably infect others before they die so I propose to round ’em up and throw them into the industrial-scale meat grinder.

    Least we can market their remains as high-quality ??? meat, thanks to their (supposedly) health diet.

    Profits goes into maintaining and building new meat grinders.

  • Mr0303

    Two things.

    1. They won’t infect anyone, because SJWs don’t get laid.

    2. I don’t see many people buying stakes with the scent of pumpkin spice latte.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    I’ll get my torch and gasoline.

  • Raziel Barkrai

    They’ll just use that against you. They have connections to big media outlets, so making you look like an immoral monster while painting themselves as a martyr would be a dream come true for them.

  • Immahnoob

    They can go on and paint me as an immoral monster. I enjoy shitstorms.

  • http://xerw.deviantart.com/ XERW

    I’ll grab the beers, you should get the chairs.

  • Immahnoob

    Grab the popcorn. Cancer can’t touch me, otherwise it gets cancer.

  • anon9370

    I think the better solution would be to mass exile them all to Islamic fundamentalist countries so they could experience the wonder of multiculturalism and diversity first hand. There will surely be no clash, between San Francisco values and Sharia law. and they will prove the bigots and haters were wrong all along.

  • Azure

    Games were for fun right? Right?

  • Dr.Weird
  • Immahnoob

    And yes, I believe this is self-censorship if they’re truly speaking the truth. Which is the worst type.

    Which comes from ignorance or fear. In our case it’s ignorance, since they think this would actually make people play their games, when the actual truth is that they’re deterring their actual customers.

    No one sane wants to support censorship, I as hell will never do such a thing.

    I guess I’ll have to really pirate everything now.

  • Jack0

    I don’t believe the solution to not getting what you want means that you have to steal. I don’t like censorship but that doesn’t mean you have to go to the other extreme. I agree that capcom are idiots but this won’t impact their sales that much.

  • Immahnoob

    It’ll impact them, which should be enough to tell them that they shouldn’t censor their game.

  • Jack0

    Censorship has never made an AAA game not sell so it won’t impact them, it’ll just make them lose a few copies. The majority of people that won’t this game doesn’t even know its an issue.

    Regardless of that I don’t like pirating things regardless of the reason. The answer to not getting what you want isn’t to go and steal. I just won’t buy it if that’s the case.

  • Immahnoob

    You’ve contradicted yourself, and you’re also minimizing the whole debacle.

    And pirating isn’t stealing, it’s copying.

  • snugdarkly

    Better to pirate a censored game than to buy it. Personally I wouldn’t touch it period, but at least there are alternatives for people who have to play it but also don’t want to support censorship.

  • Jack0

    So its better to steal than to buy it? You wouldn’t go to walmart or some other place and steal something just because they made you mad correct? Well then its not ok to do it here no matter the reason because stealing is not ok and 2 wrongs don’t make a right.

    Yes I’ve stole things in the past when I was younger and it was wrong then too. If you have a problem with something just don’t buy it. Even buying it used still tells them you want the game.

  • snugdarkly

    If the product is censored then sure, why not? But hell no I wouldn’t buy it used. That’s removing a product from the market that someone else may have purchased.

  • Mr0303

    FFS, Ono! There are people who are offended at everything! You can’t please these monsters.

  • Jon Stone

    You’re talking about the people in this comments section, right?

  • Dewey Defeats Truman

    The kinds of people that would get morally righteous about a butt slap would never let themselves enjoy a game where you play as characters with as much skin showing as R. Mika to begin with. As with almost any other case of censorship I’ve seen over the years, it’s not going to get new customers but merely alienate previously existing customers.

  • Micky Kusanagi

    This. Fucking this. And I’d like to throw Chun Li’s alternate outfit into the mix, though it’s something optional.

  • MusouTensei

    “So we can’t have something in the game that makes people think, “This is not acceptable.”
    I think censorship is not acceptable, now what? Fuck Capcom.

    “We didn’t make any change because of external influences”
    And I’m Santa.

  • Immahnoob

    If they didn’t make any changes because of external influences, then they’re worse than the SJWs.

    They’re not only ignorant because this won’t get them new customers but alienate their current ones, but they’re going down the censorship slippery slope. I hope they have fun trying to prune their fucking games of anything “offensive”.

    Self-censorship is the worst type of censorship, I’ll repeat this until I fucking die.

  • Jon Stone

    You understand, don’t you, that you are self-censoring every single time you decide not to do or say something because it might piss off or upset a friend, or because it’s impolite, or because it will get you into a long conversation you don’t want to have?

    I honestly don’t know if I’m talking to someone here who has any experience of socialising outside the internet, so it might be that the behaviour I describe above is totally alien to you.

  • Ubrokemygrill?

    Who the fuck treads around eggshells with their friends? Sounds like you have shit friends that can’t handle a civil discussion or your hang around children.

  • http://manhood101.com dia fred

    CENSORSHIP & The New Tyrants: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbiKq-kgXUc

  • Immahnoob

    “You understand, don’t you, that you are self-censoring every single time you decide not to do or say something because it might piss off or upset a friend, or because it’s impolite, or because it will get you into a long conversation you don’t want to have?”

    Yes, and that shouldn’t happen. The idea that I have to coddle to your feelings is absurd, when the emotional output is controlled by you. I’m smart enough to not have such retarded individuals around me though.

    Besides that, we’re talking about art here, we’re talking about products here. What do you do as a company? You target the biggest demographic. Who’s the biggest demographic? Those fuckers that don’t accept that you self-censor like a little bitch.

    This whole “business ordeal” isn’t even related to business. You come here talking to me about fucking reality and right after you tell me that people are just that absurd and would not buy the game if there was a butt slap included. At least, you’re implying it, let’s hope not, or I’d have to tell you that you’re a fucking idiot.

    “I honestly don’t know if I’m talking to someone here who has any experience of socialising outside the internet, so it might be that the behaviour I describe above is totally alien to you.”

    Of course, you just had to bring a retarded finisher to the table, it fits your persona I guess.

  • Mr0303

    He’s a troll don’t bother.

  • Immahnoob

    Shitting on him is better than ignoring him. Punching bags are there for you to punch.

  • Antoinant

    Funnily enough, the two persons who upvoted him are also the biggest retards on this website

  • Looper

    Gamers are over

  • rudhvelyn

    Literally the only time I had to step around egg shells around friends were friends I had on the internet because its so easy for then to turn on you on the internet though you could also say its because they are shitty friends

  • Mangowannabango

    I want you to know i know exactly what your saying and completely agree. I dont know where they are getting this idea of walking on eggshells around your friends from.

  • Ubrokemygrill?

    Grow some balls. If you’re so worried about offending your friends then you need to get new friends. Friends don’t let friends become spineless pussies.

  • Mangowannabango

    Friends?? Im talking about situations where its just about self control. You cant talk to your friends the same way you talk to coworkers or family. You cant go showng your grandma that hot porno you jacked to last night. There is a time and place for everything and belive me i love me some booty slapping but sometimes its just not worth it. Removing the booty slap, and its not even really removed we just dont see it happen, isnt taking away any kind of artistic integrity from the game.

  • Ubrokemygrill?

    Now you’re moving the goalposts. I was specifically talking about friends. Don’t change the subject to try and prove your shitty point.
    You can’t change definitions whenever you want. It is removing artisitic integrity. The designer wanted the ass slap in as part of her character and they are being shamed for it.

  • Mangowannabango

    Ok so i noticed the original posts only mentioned friends but im talking in general with anyone you care about. No i dont consider it any kind of loss of artistic integrity. Mika is still the same sexy character shes always been. The slap is still there just out of view. Originally i thought i was out of taste that they decided to censor it but after the bullshit “we wanted a Teen rating” excuse they pulled im second thinking it. This is due to the commentor posts of what kind of games got teen ratings and if those games got teen ratings theres no excuse for capcom

  • anon9370

    #boycottStreetFighter when?

  • Joey Ryan’s Junk

    FUCK YOU you big cry baby.

  • Griever

    That guy’s a crybaby? I’d say the crybabies are SJWs. Or, crybullies, that is.

  • Joey Ryan’s Junk

    You’re all crying becuase they moved a camera angle it’s not like Chun li no longer has her half naked outfit.

  • Griever

    The principle of the matter is this: adults shouldn’t control what other adults can see. period

  • Antoinant

    The moment you allow something to be censored, you’re giving green light to censor anything else

  • Joey Ryan’s Junk

    Moving a camera up is not censorship.

    Taking out Bikinis and breat silders is.

  • Antoinant

    Both are the same exact thing though.

  • Joey Ryan’s Junk

    A camera angle IS NOT censorship

  • Antoinant

    Whatever faggot

  • Joey Ryan’s Junk

    How old are you 12? You resort to gay slurs because you’re wrong. People like you get beat up in real life. and left to die in pools of their own blood.

  • Joey Ryan’s Junk

    Crybaby manchild

  • MusouTensei

    Triggered!

  • Jawsh Grohban

    Dry your eyes, dumpling. I’ll lead you to your safe space.

    I apologize on behalf of all internetters for you having to read that. We can make a better world full of softer words, softer language, and softer craniums.

    This message brought to you by Downee Fabrik sof’ner. Embrace your inner soft.

  • scemar

    Yeah, that might be one of the solutions.

    If they don’t want to offend people, thus they censor, then let’s get offended at the censorship so they have to think twice about it.

    If the audience can get that done then they might stop censoring.

  • Sarracenia

    Looks like I’m dropping SF. Oh well.

  • Dewey Defeats Truman

    I’m honestly glad right about now that I never cared for SF in the first place.

  • Miguel Vidal

    Fuck off, censoring Mika’s butt.
    If they don’t want to see it they should return to their chaste Tekken.

  • Antoinant

    “we must protect people’s sensible feelings”
    Fuck this gay earth

  • ivanchu77

    Fuck SJW , i hope this silly and shitty puritan fad ends soon

  • snugdarkly

    By the time it ends we’ll both be long gone.

  • TeLin特林

    It popped up in the 80s….and kind of went away for a while, before popping up again.

    It might reach a boiling point….hopefully.

  • snugdarkly

    Fuck no. The source of this problem is women, and with women getting more and more power it’s only going to continue to get worse. Men were right to think women are too emotional to make rational decisions.

  • Immahnoob

    At least we’ll be able to mod this back into the fucking game.

    But fuck Capcom and anyone supporting this type of behavior, seriously.

  • Jack0

    I like the behavior but I’m not missing out on the game either because of this. Forget that.

  • snugdarkly

    That’s why companies can get away with censorship. Gamers have no willpower, and no principles.

  • Eldhin Hellknight

    What the fuck?

  • Dr.Weird

    inb4 they start banning people with too high of a win/lose ratio to avoid making bad players uncomfortable

  • MasonF2

    Straight out of Harrison Bergeron.

  • Snea Zel

    I liked you, Capcom. When everyone bitched in your direction about the locked disc content and your business practices in general I looked the other way because I really enjoyed your games.

    But this is just stupid. Better bring MonHun to more consoles to make up for this BS.

  • British_Otaku

    And E.X. Troopers.

  • Maciej Bącal

    it’s not censorship guys

    self-censorship doesn’t count, nobody said self-censorship, this is not censorship is all i’m saying, so it’s fine

  • anon9370

    Self-censorship is a form of censorship, you goddamn tool.

    “self-censorship

    noun

    1.

    the regulation of a group’s actions and statements by its own members rather than an external agency”

    Capcom’s developers created the buttslap animation, then it was “regulated” by other members of the same group (in all likelihood, some SJW Westerners involved in localization who aren’t even real developers).

  • Maciej Bącal

    is this for real

  • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

    “‘Ok, there is this issue here, but it is within the limits’.”

    I work at a Hospital, if somebody get me their addresses I’m sure I can hook up these people with prescriptions for the pair of testicles / ovaries they all seem to have lost somewhere along the road. Instant. No problemo~.

  • Shigeru031

    I doubt the decision came up internally.

  • yellowfour

    probably “internally” as advised by consulting or localization agency

  • Kain Yusanagi

    Decision was made internally because they were scared by the SJW authoritarians.

  • Dr.Weird

    Hey guys, guess what’s coming to steam that didn’t do this, and is more fun anyway. http://store.steampowered.com/app/376300/

  • http://nocturnik.tumblr.com/ Nocturnic

    Yep, on my wishlist.

  • Best Mom Eva

    It also hasn’t ruined its art-style in a clumsy transition to 3D.

  • WEL

    Wait what? When was Xrd announced for Steam? Yesterday?

  • Dr.Weird

    pretty much yeah, I’m stoked

  • King of Bros

    Of course it’s fucking censorship,they’re reacting to the fanbase they don’t have.

    Journalists, people who never play their games, always screeching about how OFFENDED they are

    Things are being taken away from the real fans at the urgins of moral bussy bodies

  • Jon Stone

    You sound pretty offended. This entire comments section sounds very offended. So … pot meet kettle?

  • King of Bros
  • harlanwade

    What a great fucking image, Lol

  • TeLin特林

    And I guess calling out the KKK is just as bad as being a KKK member.

    Calling out censorship(including self-censorship) is not the same as demanding companies “keep in mind” how their games make people slightly “misogynistic”

    The current climate of shaming developers has led to this. Calling this BS out is not the same in the slightest.

  • scemar

    Part of the problem might be that they’re unaware of the huge disconnect between mainstream gaming media and actual gamers.

    Which is understandable, they’re far away from all that’s been going on.

    The solution to that would be up to the fanbase to give them a loud and clear message: The media no longer represents the audience so please disregard it.

  • Lea Pastillaroja

    Piracy time, if crapcom is gonna offend their custommer by aplying censorship, Pirates on PC will most likelly be able to patch this up

  • Arenegeth

    Relax people nobody is taking away your games.

    They are just cultivating a culture of fear and self censorship and occasionally cause offline or online retailer or two not to stock a game. Until Publishers and Developers are beaten into submission in which point they will be releasing tokenized minority games, that resemble a gray mold in fear of offending anybody.

    Totally not the same thing.

  • Immahnoob

    Respect their decisions though, it’ll drive away their fans and will prove to us that they’re indeed ignorant of marketing.

    Or just afraid.

  • nine_ball

    Except that they are also taking away our games. Idea Factory just told us not too long ago that there are Compile Heart games they’re not bringing over because they and Compile Heart don’t want to censor them.

  • rudhvelyn

    Dude hes being sarcastic

  • Llama Adventure

    “We’re not going to kill you or anything if you fail to pay your protection money. It’ll just be…unfortunate.”

  • Go D. Usopp

    Self censorship is an idiotic concept. They made a change in the hopes that itd increase their audience. Thats called business, believe it or not

    Im sure im just begging for arrogant kids to tell me to kill myself again but seriously, the explanation provided is adequate. Its not a “culture of fear” its “we wanna sell as many copies as possible”

  • Valwin Mediaz

    please shit on me capcom protect me capcom BLOOD is GOOD BOOBS ARE BAD

  • Sevuz

    yeah all the SEXY IS BAD but BLOOD AND VIOLENCE IS GOOD is just weird

  • Go D. Usopp

    Thats an unusual strawman but im bored so ill bite (assuming you, like the person you replied to, are referring to me)

    I actually dont like violence and gore either (gonna stop here to say, entirely personal, not something I push on others). I accept violence more readily because in most cases its a necessary story device. Sexual content is almost always just mindless fanservice

  • Sevuz

    Nah I was just trying make fun. I mean come on we are talking at about a “digital” girl given herself a butt slap for 2 seconds and about 100 people lost their shit when they Capcom said… naaaaah. I think this is nothing more than a silly sale stunt from Capcom. Nothing like a bit of heat before release

  • Ubrokemygrill?

    -Sexual content is almost always just mindless fanservice.
    You can have a good game with fanservice. A playful buttslap is not equivalent to penetration at all.

  • Go D. Usopp

    That was hardly my point and I did say i’d spare you the details but sure, you’re right

    My point was just that I don’t enjoy that type of content. Nothing more

  • Ubrokemygrill?

    And people can simply ignore content they don’t like instead of crusading to remove it in the form of political correctness. “I DONT LIKE THING” Good for you, don’t buy the product then! It is a petty and absolutely spineless change.

  • Go D. Usopp

    And once again, I agree. I never said they made a good decision or supported the people who would want it. I just don’t interpret it as censorship given the context

  • Go D. Usopp

    I dont even like Street Fighter. Or asses. So either way, no

    Nice try projecting your tastes onto others though

  • Para-Medic

    … you don’t like butts?

  • Sevuz

    Not all love the butt love

  • Go D. Usopp

    I dont dislike them, im just not sexually attracted to anything and they thus have no value to me. Or thats the short explanation at least. Wont bore you with the rest. Lol

  • Fighunter

    Please do tell me how the removal of the butt slap will increase sales.
    Do you think any person out there offended by the butt slap wouldn’t be offended by Mika as a whole, or Cammy and Laura’s costumes? Do you think they would see this news and go “Wow, now that Mika’s butt is out of the picture I sure want to buy SF5!”
    Heck, let’s even take your average, ignorant consume. He see the SFV trailer with Zangief, Ryu, Cammy, Chun Li, and more. And then he sees Mika and goes “WHOAAA THAT’S TOO MUCH! Not gonna buy this game anymore”. Does that strike you as believable behavior?
    Of course I’m not American so perhaps “safe spaces” really have grown to encapsulate such thoughts…

  • Go D. Usopp

    I never said it was a good idea I just pointed out everyone is wrong about the reasons. I agree with you

  • Immahnoob

    If their reason is “business”, then they’re having the wrong reason.

  • Go D. Usopp

    Im sure this comment will be met with a LOT of backlash but the fact is, we aren’t the majority audience for this (or just about anything besides DRPGs and VNs really). Normie gamers outnumber us in the millions

    Now I agree that they probably dont care about this and the decision was probably wrong but a LOT of the non-SJW population is also very puritanical

    Of course Capcom is going to think about them even if they make the wrong call

  • Immahnoob

    “Normie gamers outnumber us in the millions”

    Normie gamers won’t stop playing the game or start playing the game because of a fucking buttslap. This is why you’re wrong.

    “Now I agree that they probably dont care about this and the decision was probably wrong but a LOT of the non-SJW population is also very puritanical”

    Again, you have a distorted notion of reality. We’ve already talked about this, you think that because you’re a puritan (you said it yourself, you dislike both violence and sex) everyone else is too.

    “Of course Capcom is going to think about them even if they make the wrong call”

    Their actions don’t portray what you’re saying. They’re not thinking of new customers and they’re alienating their current ones.

  • Go D. Usopp

    They literally said they want to reach as many people as possible but ok, keep making stuff up

    Also the SF community formed around solid fighting mechanics not ass. They’re alienating ecchi fans specifically sure. Because they decided youre a smaller market than people who are offended by it (again, I agree theyre wrong I dunnobwhy youre arguing this like I agree with them)

    My entire point was that its not censorship, not that it was a GOOD business move

    Also im not a puritan at all. I have no desire to force my tastes on anyone. Strawman away though, makes things easier

  • Immahnoob

    “They literally said they want to reach as many people as possible but ok, keep making stuff up”

    Yeah, ok, fine, they said it. So how are they doing this, by the way?

    Oh I know, they’re removing a buttslap. That will make droves of people move to SFV!

    They also removed a camera angle for Cammy. That’ll make even my mother play it!

    “We’ve noticed that our grass is too green, we made it a slightly lighter green, we hope this’ll make you buy SFV.”

    “Also the SF community formed around solid fighting mechanics not ass.”

    The SF community is made out of gamers, young and old, that want their games not to be censored for no reason. That’s not why people are specifically mad.

    They’re mad that Capcom is bowing to political correctness. That they’re making senseless changes. Not because of a butt slap.

    “They’re alienating ecchi fans specifically sure.”

    I think you’re taking “mental” a bit too far. Do you really believe these words you just wrote? They’re alienating people that hope they won’t have to deal with more “don’t offend anyone” bullcrap.

    You’re really out of touch with reality though. Considering how everything else in the game appeases to what you define as “ecchi fans”, e.g. just look at Chun Li’s costumes.

    Besides that, you also think that people that like sexuality or suggestive themes in their games are a minority. Topfuckingkek.

    “Also im not a puritan at all. I have no desire to force my tastes on anyone. Strawman away though, makes things easier”

    You don’t have to force your tastes on anyone to be a puritan. Will you next tell me that “puritans” don’t exist because it’s a group of the 16th century?

  • Antoinant

    >trying to argue with a legit retard
    Please don’t do this for your sanity.

  • Immahnoob

    I’m a force of nature, you can’t stop me.

  • Go D. Usopp

    >Still being immature enough to think that calling someone a retard has any value

    Please buy a dictionary and stop using words you don’t know the meaning of you utter moron. I’d also suggest you grow up while i’m at it, but we both know that’s unlikely

  • Antoinant

    Do I need to remind you how much a pathetic arrogant and hypocritical coward you are, faggot?

  • Go D. Usopp

    Wow, you’re actually so salty that you went to all that trouble? I’m flattered

    Don’t cry on your keyboard too much, i’m sure if it short circuits your mum won’t be too pleased at having to buy you a new one

    Also kek at thinking that calling me a faggot will offend me. Nothing wrong with a bit of gay

  • Antoinant

    This comment screams “I’m totally not mad”

  • snugdarkly

    Damn son the cognitive dissonance is real.

  • Go D. Usopp

    If you had any experience of socialising outside of WRPGs and Otome games you’d know that normal humans don’t start pointless arguments with people they like regardless of if they’re right or not

  • snugdarkly

    Nice diversion m8, are you gonna answer the question? Are you even capable of being honest with anyone? I can just imagine what you must have gotten into that destroyed your confidence like this.

  • Go D. Usopp

    It’s not about dishonesty, it’s a little thing called “tact”. Do you go around making pointless conflict and end up so alienated that your only source of social reassurance is circle jerking on Nichegamer, or do you leave some things that aren’t worth talking about alone?

    Especially considering that pretty much no one I know could give less of a shit about any of this. They aren’t bloody gamergaters or SJWs. Normies don’t give a fuck about this and as I said on that other article, i’m not a keyboard crusader. I’m not wasting my time trying to make people care about it

    So why argue with them?

  • snugdarkly

    You don’t have to have “tact” with real friends.

  • Go D. Usopp

    If they don’t know and don’t care about any of this censorship debacle then if they were to see me talking about it all they would see is me talking about the virtues of anime titties or loli rape or whatever the current outrage is focused on

    So instead of trying to talk them into joining in with all this nonsense it’s easier just to not talk to them about it, and if I were hypothetically to talk to them about censorship i’d pick a less egregious example than the Yohjo Simulator one since it’d be a much easier and smoother discussion

  • snugdarkly

    Lol what? What in the world are you on about? The virtues of loli rape? Talking them into joining you? What the fuck m8?

    Why do you become friends with people who are nothing like you?

  • Go D. Usopp

    Because based on my experience with this site, people who are like me are completely insufferable (and yes I know how you’re going to twist that statement back around on me but oh well)

  • snugdarkly

    Yeah yeah you’re better than everyone else. You get to be a normie, and a non-normie at the same time!

  • Go D. Usopp

    Maybe if you weren’t so incapable of thinking in anything but black and white you’d understand how idiotic every single thing about that statement was. I mean for starters the concept of “normie” actually has literally no meaning other than a made up derogatory term social pariahs use to feel good about themselves

    That “us or them” mentality is ridiculous. You genuinely believe there’s no nuance in human personalities? It’s either 100% kick your feet about anime titties, censorious marxist or generic normie. Nothing else exists?

    Believe it or not people who aren’t “normal” can have friends (which seems to be the common standard for calling someone a normie) simply by not being an emotionally and psychologically stunted jackass who thinks it’s perfectly reasonable to go around calling anyone he disagrees with a faggot. There’s a reason people don’t like you and it sure as shit aint because you’re not a “normie”

  • snugdarkly

    Oh for god’s sake m8. Talking to you is such a headache. Besides those social pariahs are my favorite kinds of people. They’re distinguished because they don’t just think whatever it is their normie buddies told them to think. They’re different from you.

  • snugdarkly

    And that “us or them” mentality is on both ends. What do you think normies do if not suppress the things the non-normies enjoy? You’re a god damned idiot m8.

  • Go D. Usopp

    Implying that 1: “normies” is a thing (which is a concept I just deconstructed you’re literally replying to the comment where I did that) and 2: that the group you falsely perceive as being them has any power over what gets released besides market power (so if you believe in the free market then cry harder and if you don’t then welcome to cultural marxist town hypocrite)

    It’s not like an army of dudebros in basketball shorts lined up outside Capcom to protest ass slapping or some other ridiculous notion of “evil normies suppressing my niche tastes!11!!!1!!1”, Capcom looked at the mere fact that those people exist and, of their own accord, went “well maybe we should sell to them too” (and once again, before you go off on a poorly considered tangent, I don’t think that was a good decision, but it’s still not suppression by any definition of the word)

  • Richard Miller

    What is a normie?

  • snugdarkly
  • Richard Miller

    So basically a internet virgin. A person who has yet to be corrupted by the internet. A person still pure. Do they still exists?

  • snugdarkly

    I like to think of normalfags as people who want to censor the things I enjoy but I guess people who have yet to journey beyond facebook count too.

  • snugdarkly

    And really you shouldn’t be basing anything in reality on internet comments. I mean really, just this site? You just decided everyone like you is a jerkoff because someone (else) with an anime avatar rightfully called you a faggot? Piss off. Stop caring so god damned much about what people think of you, and be true to yourself every once in a while. Unless you are being true to yourself. In that case have you considered changing?

  • Go D. Usopp

    Wow careful with that edge you might cut yourself

    It’s pretty shallow only wanting to associate with people who are similar to you don’t you think? I make friends with people because I enjoy their company, not because they agree with me about everything. It’s as simple as that. Like I said, most of the people who care about the same shit I do seem to be utter pricks (as you’re so aptly demonstrating right now in fact)

    Also your comments about how I only surveyed this one site are irrelevant because that’s pretty much the only place anyone who gives a shit about any of this exists to begin with besides maybe 8chan, which I have no intention of visiting

    Also focusing on the anime avatar when that obviously wasn’t the point. Pretty much all of my friends are into anime so nice try, you know I meant all this censorship nonsense. No one outside of NG users and whatever leftover dregs of Gamergate are still lurking about actually gives a fuck, and I don’t care to befriend any of those people

  • snugdarkly

    I don’t see the edge you’re referring to at all lol.

    Not at all. What would we talk about anyway? If I have to walk on eggshells like a guy who just got his balls chopped off then I’d rather not bother.

    That’s completely untrue. The internet is a big place you know.

    Nice try? So you’re saying that you’re actually a normie after all, and all your friends are normies too? Well then why did you ever pretend you have to have tact at all? You’re the same as them.

  • Go D. Usopp

    “Nice try” was obviously sarcasm but it seems it’s wasted on you (as is my metaphorical breath, since i’m typing and not speaking)

  • snugdarkly

    I’m just genuinely curious. I don’t have a problem with bold-faced lies at times but man. You make it sound like you’re never honest.

  • Problematic Prinny

    He also said this; https://archive.is/LwXtU#selection-2697.0-2697.75
    When asked for proof he’s nothing to say. Of course this is the guy who will argue for hours here yet mysteriously doesn’t have half an hour a day to learn japanese.

  • Go D. Usopp

    Well firstly you’re making huge assumptions about my reasons for not liking those things, despite the fact that you don’t know a thing about me (or anything else, evidently). It’s nothing to do with morality I simply find no enjoyment in it. So essentially unless you retract your statement, your argument boils down to “ANYONE WITH DIFFERENT TASTES TO MINE IS A PURITAN”. I’m sure even you can see how ridiculous that is

    Moving on, you’re still doing it. You’re arguing as if I think Capcom’s decision was a good one despite my statement to the contrary several times now. My point was never that they made the right decision stop arguing that point and either try to refute that their intention was business related or stop replying

    My ENTIRE point, again, since you seem to ignore me every time I say it, is that this was not motivated by censorship. Even if they were trying to appease a crowd that often calls for censorship, the decision was motivated by trying to sell the game to said people, not by those people screeching at them about oppression till they changed it. Hence, “the decision was made internally”

  • Immahnoob

    “Well firstly you’re making huge assumptions about my reasons for not liking those things, despite the fact that you don’t know a thing about me (or anything else, evidently). It’s nothing to do with morality I simply find no enjoyment in it. ”

    Fine, you’re not a puritan, you’re special.

    “Moving on, you’re still doing it. You’re arguing as if I think Capcom’s decision was a good one despite my statement to the contrary several times now. My point was never that they made the right decision stop arguing that point and either try to refute that their intention was business related or stop replying”

    “My ENTIRE point, again, since you seem to ignore me every time I say it, is that this was not motivated by censorship.”

    Their words and actions don’t point out at business. Sorry…

    >”So we can’t have something in the game that makes people think, “This is not acceptable.”
    >We didn’t make any change because of external influences

    Contradiction detected.

    It’s self-censorship, it doesn’t change jack shit honestly. Self-censorship is still censorship.

  • Go D. Usopp

    Trying to appeal to more people isn’t business? I just can’t even fathom how you managed to reach such an ass-backwards conclusion frankly

    The point is that they were TRYING to do that, not that they’re going to succeed. You seem to think that just because they made the wrong call it proves that they did it for another reason. People’s business decisions don’t always succeed

    Also the statements you highlighted don’t contradict because when they say “external influences” they mean “pressure from X offended groups”, not “the mere existence of different demographics”. People keep claiming that as a contradiction and it’s ridiculous. It’s either poor logic or intentionally disingenuous

    Also i’ll just ignore your lazy insistence on ad hominem since it’s beneath me

  • Immahnoob

    “Trying to appeal to more people isn’t business? I just can’t even fathom how you managed to reach such an ass-backwards conclusion frankly”

    Sure, but their actions are not appealing to more people. That’s a simple non sequitur.

    I mean, if you believe that their actions imply “business”, then mowing down people with an AK-47 is “saving them” because the shooter was screaming it “ALL IM DOING IS SAVING PEOPLE HERE!”.

    “The point is that they were TRYING to do that, not that they’re going to succeed.”

    Mowing down people with an ak-47 is also TRYING to save them.

    It FAILS, but it’s a TRY. Baby steps, baby steps.

    “You seem to think that just because they made the wrong call it proves that they did it for another reason. People’s business decisions don’t always succeed”

    I think you’re just retarded, they themselves proved it to be censorship.

    “Also the statements you highlighted don’t contradict because when they say “external influences” they mean “pressure from X offended groups”, not “the mere existence of different demographics”.”

    This is not only ignoring the current political and cultural climate, it’s ignoring semantics altogether.

    The thing about this is that it doesn’t matter, the influence is objectively external, since they said it themselves, they thought of not offending EXTERNAL INDIVIDUALS. This is irrelevant though, they’re trying to play it as “This isn’t censorship, just accept it.”.

    But since it fits the definition, they can go on and resort to mental gymnastics all they want, they have no valid reasons to do this, they have no support from their community on this, the backlash is considerable.

    “People keep claiming that as a contradiction and it’s ridiculous. It’s either poor logic or intentionally disingenuous”

    Or you’re the idiot.

    “Also i’ll just ignore your lazy insistence on ad hominem since it’s beneath me”

    I’d say you start polishing:

    1. Your knowledge.
    2. Your debate skills.
    3. Everything about you.

  • Go D. Usopp

    You’re actually so absurd I can’t even fathom what it must be like to live in such a perpetual hell of paranoia and assumption

    They didn’t “prove” it to be censorship at all. Your entire point can be whittled down to “ANY CUTS MADE TO A GAME ARE CENSORSHIP” because you refuse to accept the possibility that another reason to make said cut exists. If they’d cut something that wasn’t widely considered “offensive” would you be doing the same or just going “eh, it’s quality control/ business/ etc”

    Your premise is flawed because it precludes the possibility of any reason to change a product pre-release besides censorship. And you think i’m retarded???

    Just because they’re going to fail to get a bigger audience from a business decision doesn’t mean it wasn’t one, that was already established

    And your point about external influences once again, completely ignores nuance. They were obviously referring to offended busybodies, not the very existence of things outside of the studio that might influence internal decisions, this is not difficult at all. Businesses literally have to consider the outside world or they will go bankrupt, you’re being ridiculous

  • Immahnoob

    “You’re actually so absurd I can’t even fathom what it must be like to live in such a perpetual hell of paranoia and assumption”

    More like, they said it themselves. “We cut out content because people might get offended.”, censorship:

    “The suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security:”

    If it fits, it sits.

    “They didn’t “prove” it to be censorship at all. Your entire point can be whittled down to “ANY CUTS MADE TO A GAME ARE CENSORSHIP” because you refuse to accept the possibility that another reason to make said cut exists”

    You do know that the definition of censorship can include much more than only “obscene” and “immoral” things, right?

    “If they’d cut something that wasn’t widely considered “offensive” would you be doing the same or just going “eh, it’s quality control/ business/ etc””

    I don’t see how this would be “widely considered offensive”, yeah, her butt slap is iconic and it’s made in a sign of mockery towards her other fictional opponent, it’s absurd to say it’s “widely considered offensive” nonetheless.

    Anyway, yes of course. It’s just that it rarely happens that something that isn’t “obscene” to the sensibilities of westerners gets censored.

    “Your premise is flawed because it precludes the possibility of any reason to change a product pre-release besides censorship. And you think i’m retarded???”

    I’m calling it for what it is. It fits the fucking definition so it is censorship.

    “And your point about external influences once again, completely ignores nuance. They were obviously referring to offended busybodies, not the very existence of things outside of the studio that might influence internal decisions, this is not difficult at all. Businesses literally have to consider the outside world or they will go bankrupt, you’re being ridiculous”

    As I said, you’re being retarded, because THIS DOES refer to the “offended busybodies” you fucking idiot. They say it themselves, use your brain and start reading the article.

  • Go D. Usopp

    Of course it refers to them but they didn’t actually DO anything so it’s not external influences in the way you’re implying it is. As I said, it’s literally just the mere existence of groups with certain beliefs. People alter products for that reason on a daily basis. I haven’t seen a SINGLE instance of someone actually calling for this to be edited so it’s hardly as if the “evil SJWs” have forced Capcom to change it

    And you literally just proved yourself wrong with that definition of censorship because this work hasn’t been suppressed, it was cut willingly by the original creators pre-release as a business decision made to try to appeal to a wider audience, you utter moron. Good job

    Also kek at someone quoting definitions who doesn’t know how to use the word retard properly

  • Immahnoob

    “Of course it refers to them but they didn’t actually DO anything so it’s not external influences in the way you’re implying it is. As I said, it’s literally just the mere existence of groups with certain beliefs.”

    Which influenced Capcom to become retarded, yes. Influences don’t mean jack shit, as I said before. This is censorship and shouldn’t be happening anyway.

    “People alter products for that reason on a daily basis. I haven’t seen a SINGLE instance of someone actually calling for this to be edited so it’s hardly as if the “evil SJWs” have forced Capcom to change it”

    It doesn’t have to be specific to influence the thing. You’re just oblivious to what’s happening right now in gaming. Xenoblades, FF, Blade and Soul, Idea Factory saying they will no longer localize if they have to censor, XSEED taking a stance against censorship, constant articles against “sexism in video games” for the most popular games, Witcher 3, Fallout 4, and others, they targeted DOAX3 and the DOA series in general they targeted SFV too because of Laura, they targeted Rashid too because of “racism”.

    “And you literally just proved yourself wrong with that definition of censorship because this work hasn’t been suppressed,”

    You’re a fucking cretin, seriously. Yes, this work has been suppressed by the creators, that changes jack shit. The creators went out of their way to pander to moral outrage. That stays truest to the definition more than anything, self-censorship is censorship.

    “Also kek at someone quoting definitions who doesn’t know how to use the word retard properly”

    You are completely unintelligent, so yes, you are retarded.

  • Go D. Usopp

    “Completely unintelligent” isn’t the definition of retard, it’s an actual handicap. Nice try dumbass (except it wasn’t, really, i’m humouring you)

    At this point you’ve become a complete joke. It literally hasn’t been suppressed in any way shape or form. The creators CHOSE to cut it, that’s not being suppressed. You’re just salty that they decided to target a different demographic to you. That’s hardly censorship

    The key point here is choice. They had a choice. They chose to cut it. They weren’t forced in any way. Do you know what suppression is???

  • Immahnoob

    “”Completely unintelligent” isn’t the definition of retard, it’s an actual handicap. Nice try dumbass (except it wasn’t, really, i’m humouring you)”

    “a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way:”

    “At this point you’ve become a complete joke. It literally hasn’t been suppressed in any way shape or form. The creators CHOSE to cut it, that’s not being suppressed.”

    You’re basically repeating yourself after I debunked you. Topkek, try again.

    “You’re just salty that they decided to target a different demographic to you. That’s hardly censorship”

    Sorry, suppressing scenes in a game is called “censorship”.

    “The key point here is choice. They had a choice. They chose to cut it. They weren’t forced in any way. Do you know what suppression is???”

    Self-censorship, and suppression has nothing to do with being forced into anything.

    “But the funniest thing? You’re now using your own outrage in the hopes of suppressing their new chosen artistic decision. Which is utterly hysterical. You’re not only an idiot but also a total hypocrite”

    I don’t think you know what self-censorship is.

  • Go D. Usopp

    I do know what self censorship is, that being not a thing that has any value as a concept. The idea that editing something willingly before release is as bad as being forced into cutting it is so utterly absurd

    So yes, you really are just salty that they changed it to target a demographic you don’t fit. The reasons don’t matter, it was a choice. Censorship is something that is done to you. “Self censorship” is just newspeak for “editing” that people like you use to fabricate controversies when no real censorship happened

    Also kek at using a made up modern definition of retard because you know EXACTLY what it was originally used for. Though i’m sure if someone used a made up definition of sexism or told you that censorship is only done by governments you’d tell them they can’t use new definitions

  • Immahnoob

    “I do know what self censorship is, that being not a thing that has any value as a concept. The idea that editing something willingly before release is as bad as being forced into cutting it is so utterly absurd”

    Already debunked this. You’re either utterly ignorant of what’s going on in the industry or just willfully so. They themselves said they don’t want to offend people, that means it’s self-censorship out of fear.

    “So yes, you really are just salty that they changed it to target a demographic you don’t fit. The reasons don’t matter, it was a choice.”

    Debunked this too, you’re repeating your same debunked arguments.

    “Censorship is something that is done to you. “Self censorship” is just newspeak for “editing” that people like you use to fabricate controversies when no real censorship happened”

    “Newspeak”, kek. Fucking cretin.

    “Also kek at using a made up modern definition of retard because you know EXACTLY what it was originally used for.”

    “Originally”, and why do you think I should care if you live in the past? Languages change with time you clod.

    “Though i’m sure if someone used a made up definition of sexism or told you that censorship is only done by governments you’d tell them they can’t use new definitions”

    This is you saying you don’t understand what the issue is with a made up definition of either censorship or sexism.

    E.g. You’re limiting censorship with an agenda behind it. Censorship is usually seen as bad, if they can’t define censorious actions as censorship, then you can deny them easier in a game of semantics.

    E.g. Sexism now permits more actions that had nothing to do with sexism, sexism was seen as a negative term if it was attributed to certain actions, now you can push an agenda to make certain actions be seen as bad even if they’re harmless.

  • Go D. Usopp

    You haven’t debunked anything because if they had a choice the reason they made that choice doesn’t matter, as I already said. Which is why self censorship is a worthless concept. They WILLFULLY made a CHOICE to do something because they WANTED to try to draw in a different demographic. They put that demographic ahead of you. You can’t admit that you’re salty about it so you’re fabricating a “censorship” issue that doesn’t exist

    If you’re going to claim you’ve debunked something, put forth a worthwhile counterpoint to what i’m actually saying. Where in this equation did they not exercise their artistic freedom? Nowhere. They just made a decision with it that you disapprove of. They had complete artistic freedom and this is the decision that they came to. That’s it. If you can’t understand that then I have to just assume you’re being willfully disingenuous to, as I said, fabricate a controversy

  • Immahnoob

    They didn’t do this willingly, unless you think being scared into submission is willingness.

    In the equation in which they said they did this to not offend people.

  • Go D. Usopp

    It is in fact possible to CHOOSE not to offend people, believe it or not. Especially if you believe it to be a viable business decision. At this point it really just comes down to what assumptions you’re willing to make about their intentions and is a completely pointless discussion

    Businesses are all about making money so I think the most likely reason for them to do this is that they think these people will now buy the game. I still believe, as I’ve said before, that they were wrong, but if they did it for that reason it’s unreasonable to call it censorship since it’s actually just an edit

    But whatever. If you think it’s censorship and won’t buy it then by all means

  • Immahnoob

    “It is in fact possible to CHOOSE not to offend people, believe it or not. Especially if you believe it to be a viable business decision. At this point it really just comes down to what assumptions you’re willing to make about their intentions and is a completely pointless discussion”

    I’m sure you deny the Stockholm syndrome too.

    “Businesses are all about making money so I think the most likely reason for them to do this is that they think these people will now buy the game. I still believe, as I’ve said before, that they were wrong, but if they did it for that reason it’s unreasonable to call it censorship since it’s actually just an edit

    But whatever. If you think it’s censorship and won’t buy it then by all means”

    It’s not a matter of belief here, it’s a matter of fact. This is factually censorship.

  • anon9370

    It’s self-censorship. But we can easily assume, that the decision was made because of some gaijin SJW faggots in localization complaining about “muh soggy kneez”. Hence, it was in fact an internal decision. Because the goddamn social justice faggots are infiltrating Japanese developers via localization and such to push their own progressive views, the views of the original developers be damned.

  • Go D. Usopp

    Yeah that doesn’t sound like a conspiracy theory at all

  • anon9370

    Yeah, a crazy conspiracy theory. It’s not like it’s ever happened before.
    SJWs aren’t entering Asian companies as localization staff to subvert the products or anything like that.

    http://nichegamer.com/2015/11/report-blade-soul-alteredcensored-for-questionable-material-in-western-release/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2zdvri/final_fantasy_type0_hd_refers_to_moogle_as_ze_and/

  • Sevuz

    Yeah but a “butt slap” removed for more sales… it’s just so stupid

  • Immahnoob

    This is why we don’t ask randoms for advice on what is “business”.

    People that buy this shit won’t go to Google and write in “Is there anything slightly remotely suggestive in any way? If yes, I won’t buy it.”.

  • Antoinant

    “im just begging for arrogant kids”
    That’s a big joke coming from you.

    “Its not a “culture of fear” its “we wanna sell as many copies as possible””
    And shit all over the main fanbase.

  • Antoinant

    “Self censorship is an idiotic concept.”
    Looks like someone never went to art courses
    Francisco de Goya would like a word with you

  • Ubrokemygrill?

    -Self censorship is an idiotic concept. They made a change in the hopes
    that itd increase their audience. Thats called business, believe it or
    not
    I was actually going to get back into fightan with this iteration for Street Fighter but fuck this. I will take my business elsewhere if Capcom wants to start bowing to political correctness.

  • lucben999

    Remember guys, don’t get roped into tedious arguments about semantics over the word “censorship”. The first thing SJWs will do when confronted with censorship is to try to redefine the word, so focus on the negative effects political pressure has on creators and cite past disasters to creative freedom like the Comics Code Authority.

    Give the 1954 code criteria a read, it will probably sound very familiar.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority#1954_Code_criteria

    A few highlights:

    -Suggestive and salacious illustration or suggestive posture is unacceptable.

    -Females shall be drawn realistically without exaggeration of any physical qualities.

    -Nudity with meretricious purpose and salacious postures shall not be permitted in the advertising of any product; clothed figures shall never be presented in such a way as to be offensive or contrary to good taste or morals.

  • Wonderkarp

    The fact capcom censored it offends me

  • Para-Medic

    Well, this just went from day 1 to whatever day it get’s heavily discounted on Steam. I wonder how low it’ll go during the 2016 Summer sale?

    And I REALLY hope they don’t censor Chun Li’s dress (those things are ridiculous in a good way lol) or Cammy either.

    I swear, one step forward and two steps back with these companies… >_<

  • Sevuz

    That’s why you go PC. Modders always finds a way

  • Para-Medic

    Well I am primarily a PC gamer, so of course lol.

    As for modders… If the original files/animations are still there sure. If Capcom has removed them entirely or does so before release… Well, I don’t think modders could re-create them from scratch.

  • Sevuz

    True. But as we have seen so many times they always leave something behind + it looks more like they zoomed closer in on her instead of really removing it.

  • NukeA6

    I’m glad I’m better with a keyboard than I am with a controller when it comes to fighting games.

  • http://nocturnik.tumblr.com/ Nocturnic

    Does PC get to hotkey certain moves?

  • NukeA6

    Not any different from the consoles (i.e. X-Factor in MvC3).

  • http://nocturnik.tumblr.com/ Nocturnic

    I’ve played MvC3 before but what is X-Factor (been a long time)?

  • NukeA6

    It’s when you press all the attack buttons and your character glows red and his/her attacks do more damage.

  • http://nocturnik.tumblr.com/ Nocturnic

    Ah, gotcha.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    No you just need to know all the shortcuts lol. 😉

  • Sevuz

    Some are born lucky ^^

  • Arenegeth

    “Save Image Ass”

  • Dancing bugs

    I´d be so hard to have an option to see or not this things? That´s it. You turn it off on tournaments or whatever and leave it just like that for everybody else. Everyone is happy.

  • Sevuz

    But that’s to hard 😛

  • Jack0

    Well that would be kinda hard because some animations for R.mika were changed for her super.

  • Dancing bugs

    Not really, it was made in good old marvel vs capcom with one of the morrigan winning animations. You change one animation for another. Both already exist.

  • Meteor

    Self censorship is the worst kind of censorship.

  • Zika

    Why would someone who gets offended by a butt slap play a fighting game? Surely fighting is worse? I don’t understand the logic here.

  • lucben999

    They have a problem with titillating imagery existing to begin with, they claim that this sort of imagery does societal harm to women as a class, the reasoning for this claim tends to vary and be rather nebulous, the evidence for the claim is always precisely jackshit.

  • Zika

    Cover up women, because showing skin is haram, but beating them is okay 😀
    Nice messages 😀

  • http://xerw.deviantart.com/ XERW

    Brought to you by the Wahabi! Getting everyone back into the 600AD~

  • http://xerw.deviantart.com/ XERW

    Yep! missing teeth, internal bleeding, fractured skulls, broken bones, and other injuries? That’s fine! Carry on~

    Butt slap or panty shot? Oh dear, such an obscene material!

    >goes off to buy 50 shades of BDSM

  • anon9370

    D cups in fiction! UNREALISTIC MISOGYNY!
    Assertive confident mega billionaire’s going for average girl in fiction? No problem.

  • Slayven19

    That’s not a good comparison. The game has fighting as its main interest. Sexualization isn’t. You could take that out of the game and it would still be a fighting game.

  • Phelan

    I’m really offended by a game that promotes street fights!
    There is so much violance in the world, and games like that have huge impact on bringing up kids. It’s not acceptable, Street Fighter shouldn’t even exist because it offends people.

    (sarcasm)

  • Jack0

    The game is about violence tho and that’s what it sells on. You can take the odd sexuality parts out and the game would still work as it. So why do you have to use an extreme to make a point here that has nothing to do with anything? Ono quote is stupid but yours doesn’t make sense either. Its not like they are even taking out sexualized clothing, they just changed the angles.

    Ya know I expected better of you since I see you around often.

  • Syndromic

    Why bother catering to people likes of the crowds of NeoGAF? They won’t stop complaining ever.

  • EroBotan

    maybe it’s time to flood their steam forum?

  • Eleven Fold

    One thing I noticed with this game is that it is selling its soul to try to appeal to a wider audience or “esports”. The censorship aside they have really dumbed down a lot of system mechanics and made the game very shallow all for this wider audience.

  • Gamergater #7230

    What a fucking pile of drivel. All I heard was “A bunch of fat ugly lesbian feminists get jealous over a sexy fictional ass and we are scared they will drag our name through the mud with their hysterical blabbering”. Honestly, since when did the people who made our games turn into such fucking pussies? :(

  • Gamergater #7230

    You know what… fuck it. Next game I make is going to be full of barely-clothed sexy amazon women that you machine gun down by the hundreds. And the feminists can suck my dick if they want it censored.

  • Alistair

    I take up on your offer & how much it cost me.

    You could do a God of war show boobs with nipples like western games are, don’t forget to add the token loli for maximum effect.

    & see the SJWs forming at the mouths & shit starting to fly.

    Day one buy😊

  • Gamergater #7230

    Or maybe I can just make the enemy force a matriarchy, ruled by purple haired landwhales with naked eight year old girls chained to their thrones. From what I’ve read online these last 6 months or so, it won’t be all that far from the truth.

  • Alistair

    Well you got to chose from these girls, but these are not original girls no these are monster-girls with-out ages to them.

    As cartoon characters go they don’t have ages the mind warped SJWs do give them age.

    Example any sane person would know you talking about video-games but for others when they see 8 year old in your commet. I bet they would flip out. Because they think you talking about real girl that age. & easily to triggered. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/515b5e74eeb93bc75eada7c654efb1457dc0acee301ae4faa8798c083259fe7b.jpg

    So I enclosed this photo. 😊

  • rudhvelyn

    This is from monster monpiece isn’t it. I might be going to jail now depending on how much my customs office knows about the game.

  • Alistair

    lol is that sarcastic in your post or you are serious?

    It is from monster Monpiece but I doubt you go to jail why I already imported it over a year ago way before the censored version come out,

    & my copy went through customs alright they even open up the parcel lol..

    Got moe chronicics the same way though play-asis & criminal girls both uncensored & I be getting moe crystal too. 😊

    This time you be looking for bra & pantiess 😈

  • rudhvelyn

    I’m in canada where most of those images likely qualify as child porn. Like clothed loli counts as CP

  • Alistair

    That’s very intreasting that I’m from the UK & apparently as people keep saying it’s illegal in UK but if that the case why each time I get my games though custom & senran kagura the most rude ever rated uncensored by PEGI.

    Even those pics are not child porn HENTAI on the other hand is basically pornograpic but still legal though manga gamer & steam allow uncensored patch to they games.

  • rudhvelyn

    By our legal definition I believe they do count as CP. I figure I’ll be fine as its in game and not say cover art. Otherwise the game would be confiscated and I’d be put on a list

  • Alistair
  • http://xerw.deviantart.com/ XERW

    Asia Ver. FUCK YEAH!!!

  • Alistair

    Hope you get it & not jail time.

    When will it be due to arrive?

    As for me I found out from PEGI emails then I took the decision to import.

  • rudhvelyn

    Hopefully. Not sure. Sometime this month.

  • Antoinant

    Only if you live in a shit third-world country like Sweden.

  • rudhvelyn

    Or canada

  • Antoinant

    Oh yeah. I heard that country was doomed since the “ITS CURRENT YEAR” PM was elected.
    I’m sorry you have to go through that shit.

  • rudhvelyn

    Nah these laws were put in place by harper the pervious PM.

  • anon9370

    Your socialist countries are basically ruled by SJW cancer/ radfems lol.

  • anon9370

    lol, would be awesome! Day 1 purchase!

  • Jon Stone

    Yeah, that’ll show ’em.

    (I think it’s glorious that you’re planning on wasting your time on such a project).

  • Gamergater #7230

    Yeah cos gaming is for neckbeards amirite? -.-

  • Slayven19

    Well gaming is for everyone, including neckbeards.

  • snugdarkly

    Day 1 purchase.

  • Gamergater #7230

    I might come back in a week or so and screenshot this comment section and email it to the pearl clutching twats at Capcom to show how they are alienating their Western fan base. Or maybe I will just pass on their fucking game entirely. And to think these people are university educated. Fucking unbelievable, it really is.

  • Jon Stone

    This entire comment section is people pearl-clutching. It couldn’t be more precious if it tried.

  • Gamergater #7230

    Then you don’t understand what the term means.

  • dirtysteve

    He’s just an aggro trying to get a rise, what he forgot was that he is also a painfully unfunny cunt.

  • snugdarkly

    I was seriously going to buy the game too, but I don’t buy censored games on principle.

  • anon9370

    Seriously. I hope the game flops hard. They might as well cancel development.

  • Slayven19

    Its not going to flop at all, bravely default nor fire emblem flopped and they had a ton of censored content. SF5 is way bigger than those 2 and the majority of people don’t give a crap about the censorship.

  • Slayven19

    They aren’t really alienating their fanbase at all. Besides this place is called niche gamer and people here alone don’t make up even 1 percent of who they get their sales from. There was a shyt storm over on disc DLC for MKX, that didn’t stop the game for selling over 4 million between ps4 and xbox one. What ono said was dumb as a hell but at the same time you people are using logic either. Passing on a game for minor changes. Yes I know principle, but principle doesn’t count for anything.

  • NukeA6

    Anyone offended by butt slap deserves to be offended.

  • Gamergater #7230

    As a developer I *REALLY* hate to say this, but… maybe it’s time everyone in #Gamergate sent a clear signal and boycotted this game entirely. I’m a HUGE fan of the Street Fighter series (except the Alpha one cos the characters were all a bunch of fucking fags) but this stupid “offend nobody” shit has got to stop somehow and maybe if the fan base just said “fuck you” this time around then maybe people in the industry will start fucking listening for once.

  • WEL

    boycott is pointless. Street Fighter has a very loyal fanbase and that includes myself. Something as small as a buttslap removal will not stop me from playing the game.

  • Dgnfly

    well boycott would work if ppl just pirate the game or buy it when it’s filthy cheap, sadly ppl are sellouts and can’t stick to their words.

  • anon9370

    Then you might as well be an SJW yourself. You should think about getting your hair dyed rainbow colors.

  • dsadsada

    If people want to boycott, they can do it on their own time for their own reasons. GG is about journalists and the general culture of the gaming industry and was never about publishers and developers specifically.

    But I suppose you can encourage people in general who are upset by this to either get it used or wait for a heavy discount.

  • anon9370

    Either boycott the game (or at least make sure you buy a used copy), or exacerbate the problem. The choice is obvious.

  • Dgnfly

    well the cats out off the bag Feminism is like islam threatens ppl if they see something they don’t like with a shitstorm off Political correctness meant to kill the creators creativity.

    i wonder what’s next No anime releases considering anime is full of sexsist jokes and some series are focused on boobs that don’t abide by Feminist and SJW.

  • anon9370

    It’s not just about feminism, feminism is only one of the heads of the hydra that is leftwing extremism. They complain about anything that doesn’t match their Marxist socialist ideology. For example, Polygon bitched and moaned endlessly about the lack of “diversity” in Witcher 3.

  • Alistair

    Hmm what “external influences” He talking about there is only 1 thing I can think of is SJWs.

    If you believe what he says is true then you been taking for a ride.

    There are many factors that can alter (censored) a game from rating boards & pressure from pressure groups.

    Devs that needs to self-censored because the fear of what the rating boards would say & backlash from SJWs.

    If them are offended then them are in the wrong hobby but I doubt they would played any video games because they spend other times morning about games instead of getting stuck in & play a game from beginning to end.

  • anon9370

    If there were no “external influences”, that just means SJWs have infiltrated the company. Almost certainly gaijin from the localization department started stirring up shit.

  • Dom The Elegy

    I’m offended by censorship, where do I write to get my every wish granted?

  • Dom The Elegy
  • Alexis Nascimento-Lajoie

    Here’s how I see this logic:

    For those uninitiated in fighting games (myself included), in can be seen as an incredibly daunting and intimidating task to buy a fighting game, especially one that’s an already established franchise.

    People’s best bet is to jump into a new installment as early as possible so that everyone they’ll be playing with will be on the same page. Jump in too late and you’re fucked.

    Now the reason I’m getting into this game is that I absolutely adore the roster they have. I think it’s one of the best in the series.

    Now according to Ono the reason for the change was to try to appeal to as many people as possible by offending as little people as possible, and with the hopes of more female players to pick it up.

    Two problems with this: 1. Unless they are interested in the roster and gameplay, they probably won’t end up buying the game and 2. If they have issue with the design, changing the camera on the taunt won’t fix it. I really doubt someone will see the change and go “Wow I’m less offended by this, I’m going to buy it.”

    While I’ll still be buying and enjoying the game, I can understand why people would be angry and choose not to buy the game or wait for it to go on sale.

    In the end Capcom did a bad judgement call and miscalculated on who their audience actually is.

  • Dom The Elegy

    Starting a fighting game is a pretty hard task, especially if you don’t have someone to guide you through it. But as many dicks as there are in the FGC who tell new players to fuck off simply because they didn’t start earlier, there are also a lot of players who really like to help out new players.
    I’m not particularly great either due to lack of training partners (I live in Germany, and there basically is no FGC here), I’d be happy to help anyone who needs help to learn the fundamentals which are by far the most important.

  • Immahnoob

    “In the end Capcom did a bad judgement call and miscalculated on who their audience actually is.”

    I honestly can’t believe they can be this ignorant. It’s too small of a change for it to matter to people that get into this game and it annoys the current players.

  • Black_Bob

    While I could see it as being “too small” of a change, it’s on top of a large stack of changes that have been happening in the gaming community as a whole that could be seen as censorship or is flat out censorship to appease a demographic that it’s not catering to in the first place. In the spirit of trying to pick up as many customers as possible and make more money in the end. While small, the reaction is probably merited.

  • Immahnoob

    That’s the darn issue, that’s the main gripe of this whole debacle. It’s not helping them, it’s hurting them, and if I dare to say, me that tends to deny “common sense” because it’s annoying in an argument, I’d see this as an obvious failure before I would have implemented it in the first place.

  • snugdarkly

    I was sincerely going to buy Street Fighter V until they did this, but I don’t knowingly buy censored games on principle. Fuck I already bought a fight stick too.

  • scemar

    Any reasonable person would easily realize that the camera angle change will not make the game more welcoming to anyone, but it will make the game less cool for many.

    It’s a negative change no matter how we look at it.

  • http://xerw.deviantart.com/ XERW

    I’m quite amazed that a fair share of publishers and developers opt to hear the mainstream media instead of their fans, who have supported them all this years…

  • Nagato

    >“So we can’t have something in the game that makes people think, “This is not acceptable.””

    >“We didn’t make any change because of external influences”

    Fucking choose one already.

    Same thing goes for lazily censoring the game, but leaving in R. Mika’s default outfit (arguably her whole character), Chun-li’s alt that they’ve marketing, and new character Laura’s huge fucking tits.

    I’ve seen more than enough “feminists” say they still won’t get the game because they find those other elements too “problematic” anyway, so they tried to please everyone and ended up pleasing no one.

  • Fenrir7

    The ‘tards who think that a butt slap is “unacceptable” also feel the same way about Laura. Stop catering to these morons, they are not going to buy your games.

  • Valwin Mediaz

    she probably be censored

  • Alexis Nascimento-Lajoie

    We should listen to Dandy

  • Immahnoob

    Who be this Dandy?

  • Sevuz
  • Immahnoob

    That 60 fps, damn. So smooth.

  • Patrick Toworfe

    Hah, the same bullshit circus. Dumb PR statement /clearly/ pandering to an invisible demographic of people that they don’t want to offend, whilst also claiming not to be pressured by anyone. Which is likely true, and that’s what makes it stupid. The sort of people who would be offended by R Mika’s buttslap are likely offended by R Mika herself, so exactly who are we winning over by removing this animation? Pfffft. Whatever. Same shit different day. Another developer kowtowing to the perpetually offended for no damn reason, when the content of the game remains vastly the same.

  • Lea Pastillaroja

    I wish i knew how t code myself, but all i can do right now is have faith in the modding community.
    When thsi game comes out i’m gonna pirate it and seed the torrent as much as i can, fuk crapcom, i hope pirates drill a fucking bleeding hole in their bottom line

  • Christopher Yost

    Maybe they’ll have the intelligence to put in a “blood code” like Mortal Kombat’s…

  • Gamergater #7230

    Oh I remember that franchise :) The one where they covered up all the characters for fear of offending…

    Oh.

  • RedKnight

    I am offended by your thought that you could offended me with such a trivial matter Capcom.
    get your facts straight and just create the game you originally intended, stop thinking about other peoples thought and make the game you wanted. Its art, not a sandwich

  • tetrisdork

    SF5 was going to be the reason why I would buy a PS4. Now, with this pandering and DOAX3 – a game I had no interest in but was appalled enough by the refusal to release it in the West to now make it a tipping point – I might either get a used PS4 or none at all.

    Well, at least I still have Killer Instinct. And I might try to get back into DOA5 and its microtransaction hell.

  • Neojames82

    *sigh* Yeah….let’s cater to people who weren’t going to buy the game in the first place make these kinds of changes that still won’t get these people to buy the game but cow-tow to them for token lip-service in a vain attempt make the Twitter/Tumblr/BS Game-journalist site crowd shower you with praise. Ignoring the fact that the majority of your fans don’t give a damn about what these characters do or look like and will still make you a shit ton of money.

    But yeah, the lesson we are learning of the modern game industry, if a small group of people are offended/going to be offend by what is in your game, just censor everything and make everyone boring grey blobs.

  • Mighty No. 56008

    – says external factors were not an influence
    – then admits that changes were made due to external factors

  • Ubrokemygrill?

    What’s next? Monster hunter burqa armor?

  • Sevuz

    SSSSSSH! Don’t give them ideas!

  • Dark Lord Ash

    I’m still amazed how no one bitched about that Qurupeco’s armor what with that whole whinefest about the tomahawk class from bravely second.

  • British_Otaku

    Capcom even have multiple appearances from Tomahawkman over the generations.

  • Michael Richardson

    I love how all of the screaming about feminism is causing Japanese developers to either not release their games in the West or otherwise sanitize them to the point where they feel like they have no personality.

    I’m not buying your game, Capcom. Cowards who tremble before the bitching of Tumblr social marxists and the morality police don’t deserve my money.

  • Ubrokemygrill?

    That’s why I respect Idea Factory for simply announcing they won’t release botched content. Capcom lost their balls somewhere.

  • Kiryu

    Idea Factory and XSEED are one of the few companies that i still respect and give my money day one,it’s getting rarer and rarer as time passes.

  • Daryl Corey

    Ya know it is getting to the point that if a serial killer started murdering SJWs in horrific manners I don’t think I could condemn their actions, and it is honestly inching closer to point where I would just start to celebrate that currently non-existant killer as a hero.

  • Best Mom Eva

    >We want Street Fighter V to be approachable; accessible

    It’s ruined.

  • anon9370

    In it goes…

  • bdp

    Spoilers: it won’t.

  • Alistair

    Done a email to capcom saying I be boycott the game, so along with beyond 2 souls & South Park the stick of truth this is my next game I be boycotting.

  • Zanthos

    Well now I’m offended by weak willed developers so that’s one less customer!

  • Joey Ryan’s Junk

    It was either move the camera or get an M rating. I grantee you that.

  • John Smith

    100% bullshit
    Senran Kagura is T

  • evilmajikman

    I doubt they would give SF5 an M rating. DOA3 got away with a T rating with showing bare Christie butt in the shower.

  • John Smith
  • Joey Ryan’s Junk

    DOA4 and 5 were M and had less. ASS= M

  • evilmajikman

    Did you even play 4 and 5? 4 had Christie in a strip club which tbh is way more risque. And 5 has costumes that barely cover up the characters at all. That’s way more than what R.Mika has in SF5. And I-no in GG Xrd has a win pose where she goes topless and you see sideboob and that’s a T rating.

  • http://thewiredfishnetwork.com/ Steven T.

    Doubt it.

  • alterku

    Everything that needs to be said has been. Unless they go back on this I won’t be getting SFV.

  • moto hellogoto

    Could not care less about the butt slapping.

  • Jon Stone

    On the one hand, this kind of minor edit is unlikely to change anyone’s overall impression of the game, so it seems rather pointless.

    On the other, the overreaction is predictably ludicrous. Developers have been toning down nudity and sexiness in their games for decades. There’s probably a tonne more of it that goes on behind the scenes. They’re basically going to be constantly calibrating the amount of it in their games to get the balance right so that titillation doesn’t cross into grossing people out, and in order to appeal to, as they say here, the widest audience possible.

    These guys are probably running all kinds of marketing tests to get feedback on where that line is, and at what point potential new players feel turned off. I very, very, very much doubt the testimonies of a handful of perma-offended Gamergaters is going to make them change their mind about how to pitch it right.

  • Jon Stone

    Oh, I forgot to say:

    MMMMMMM, SALTY.

  • Ubrokemygrill?

    “They’re basically going to be constantly calibrating the amount of it in
    their games to get the balance right so that titillation doesn’t cross
    into grossing people out, and in order to appeal to, as they say here,
    the widest audience possible.”

    Beating the shit out of women is fine but absolutely no ass slaps in a teasing manner? It’s this level of hypocrisy that sickens people.
    Nice job assuming people getting offended are gamergaters. I give no fucks about their consumer revolt or movement, whatever it is now. What I do give a damn about is a knee-jerk reaction to an ass slap in a game where you can beat the shit out of women. Capcom has absolutely no balls and rightly deserve the bashing. They even contradicted themselves in their own statement.

    It’s not the ass slap that is the problem, it’s their reasoning for removing it.

  • John Smith

    psst it’s obvious bait

  • dirtysteve

    “perma-offended Gamergaters” Who called for play-asia to be boycotted and reported again?

    Oh that’s right, you and your worthless mates.

  • Alistair

    It’s such a jolly laugh when SJWs lands in the commet section.

    We put the wind up em.

    I never knew cartoon characters provoke raw emotions lol 😂

  • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

    I hate this generation.

  • Zanard Bell

    My choice is easier then. No purchase.

  • http://xerw.deviantart.com/ XERW

    Even better, purchase it second-hand – at 75% off later.

  • snugdarkly

    How is that better? It still removes a used product from the market–a product someone else was likely going to buy at some point. If th game is censored just let it drop off your radar completely. Do not support it in any way, shape or form. It’s dead to me, just as every censored product is dead to me.

  • Slayven19

    I can bet you the majority of you weren’t going to buy anyway. Just like the outrage over MKX and any other game that had people rally up over. It never hurts the company, the only thing that changes is you don’t play the game you wanted to play. But yes that’ll show em >_>.

  • Zanard Bell

    Surprisingly, people still do things out of principle.

    And you’d be on the losing side of that bet.

  • LurkerJK

    Why couldnt they just add a “Make the game PC” checkbox in the options menu ?

  • MusouTensei

    Or make an extra Safe Space Edition.

  • InfectedAI

    With all their talk about not making you buy multiple versions of the game and having additional characters be unlockable, for the first time since maybe Alpha 3 I was going to buy a Street Fighter game on or near launch.

    They’ve lost a sale and a fan. I won’t be purchasing products pandering to the perpetually offended. Particularly sad when they probably wouldn’t touch a competitive fighting game to begin with.

  • tccboss

    I keep asking how we get the butt back on twitter and no one gives me an answer.

  • epy

    When Japan starts caving, you know we’re screwed.

  • Bananalint

    These can be modded back in i’m sure…hopefully.

  • Demetrius Coleman

    It’s still censorship no matter how you slice it. Capcom lost all respect for me. But oh, when they have characters like Gill, Oro, Urien, and other people with only a single layer of clothes and/or showing muscles, it’s okay. I’m not trying to sound like a SJW but when people pull stuff like that, I don’t think they’re aware of the double standards.

    Just because you changed things and not to expect people to feel “uncomfortable” with something like that doesn’t mean the people who were okay with it in the first place won’t be pissed because of your pussification.

  • Ubrokemygrill?

    Pointing out hypocrisy does not make you sound like an SJW. What makes you sound like an SJW is “I’m fine with hypocrisy as long as it benefits my political views.”

  • Jawsh Grohban

    Jawsh Grohban here.

    This some bullshit, ladies and gentlemen.

  • Bananalint

    They should at least have it as an extra download if people want it. I don’t see why they couldn’t do that. It won’t stop anyone from buying it if they’re offended by it, because it’s not in the main game. Just an extra download.

  • Ubrokemygrill?

    That won’t happen. Sony and MS would charge them for it. They should have the removal patch as an extra download.

  • Alistair

    I Searched for the most offensive on the inter-webs.

    # the Gun is good the PENIS is Evvvviiiilll #

    & the # 43 and of parrots Nipples for men #

    Would you censored that No you can’t.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1QZyYoFF4nI

  • mrwizeass

    So he’s saying these decisions were made to appeal to filthy casuals….
    Street fighter is a franchise that’s been around for 20+ years now and anyone who calls themself a gamer has played at least one iteration. If they don’t like the game now, chances are they never will.

  • http://thewiredfishnetwork.com/ Steven T.

    I hope Capcom remembers the last time a fighting game got censored before release. It was pretty far back, but the memory of that curbstomp is still fresh.

  • buddyluv324

    At the end of the day, it seems we’re doomed to repeat the past if we dont learn from it.

  • http://xerw.deviantart.com/ XERW

    “Oh, we do learn from it – we just don’t care enough”

    Someone

  • Jack0

    People still bought the game tho so that’s not a good example. The sega version just ended up selling more. There are only 2 choices for sf5 so its either PC or ps4 and the amount of people that care about this stuff with sf5 isn’t that many. There hasn’t been a game in the last few years that didn’t sell because of something being censored.

  • http://thewiredfishnetwork.com/ Steven T.

    Actually, that right there IS the reason I picked it. It wasn’t Midway that lost out, but Nintendo. While the Genesis version was inferior in technical fidelity compared to the SNES version (washed out colors and missing frames, rough music), people were willing to put up with it for the violence alone. As such, SEGA won out big time on the home console ports of MK while Nintendo’s reputation took a hit.

    If anything, with PC modding being as prevalent as it is, the PC version of SFV could prove to something of a “Genesis” version of the game. Will it sell more? Probably not, but the option is there.

  • Brad

    So the self censored because of SJW rhetoric. This is exactly what the SJW press has been pushing for for 10 years.

  • Brimfyre

    It would be nice if games just gave the option as you boot them up:

    “Are you an oversensitive prick? Yes/No” and then alter the game according to your Trigger level.

  • scemar

    Games used to have that with blood filters.
    Maybe that’s what we need to suggest for game companies now?
    To have some trigger filter for the non existant sjw audience?
    Of course that won’t stop them from whining but it would give everyone a way to tell them to shut up and turn their special snowlfake filter on.

  • evilmajikman

    Also the blood code in MK1 on the Sega Genesis.

  • Cats736

    That wouldn’t work because the issue these people have is with others not having a problem with or liking this stuff.

    These people aren’t interested in the game, they’re only interested in pushing their agenda and forcing others to conform to their ideas.

  • anon9370

    Actually, no. It would be nice if games just ignored SJWs altogether. Fuck tumblr trigger warnings. And besides, the primary issue is not that they’re offended by it. It’s that by removing the fanservice from games, they feel they’re scoring social justice points by checking the cis het patriarch’s privilege.

  • Uncle Heffy

    And I thought Japan was the only place that still had balls enough. Well then.

  • anon9370

    You thought wrong. Japan recently started censoring posters like this due to radfem outrage.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    You know what Capcom fuck you. You’ve been nothing but shit this generation and it’s pissing me the fuck off. Don’t buy this bullshit about how you this wasn’t influenced by outside sources. You know Goddamn well who influenced this decision and now you pussies are afraid of a bunch of fucking brats. Now I know that when Kamiya left the balls of Capcom went with him.

    You didn’t give a shit when you offended your customers with you bullshit business practices such as killing Megaman, changing Devil May Cry when you didn’t need to, and making us pay more for a whole game. And now you censor your games because of SJW’S. But now you care about a bunch of spoiled whiners who WEREN’T GONNA BUY YOUR GAME ANYWAYS!

    I won’t be buying this game at all and I encourage others to do the same. You better thank the fact that you still have Monster Hunter and Dragon’s Dogma otherwise I’d ban you as a company. FUCK YOU CAPCOM AND FUCK YOU SJW’S YOU’VE POISONED MY HOBBY YA GODDAMN CUNTS!!! YOU AIN’T MESSING WITH GAME GAMES MY FUCKING ASS.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    This is for you Capcom and the SJW’S I think this song perfectly describes you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0doSWS0Fj24

  • magicalfollower

    When will developers and localizers understand that these kinds of people aren’t even gamers to begin with?
    ¬¬’

  • Bananalint

    Capcom don’t you dare take out my sexy lingerie from Dragon’s Dogma!!!

  • anon9370

    Sorry shitlord. That misogynistic objectification is problematic.

  • SuaveVillain™

    RIP Gaming :(

  • Jawsh Grohban

    How many of you have typed out a stern, well thought out letter and sent it to a company?

    You’d be amazed how often you get a reply when you send a message through snail mail.

  • Urobolus

    cuck

  • OSad

    So you censor the butt slap, but keep Cheerleader Rebecca in the RE Zero remake
    as pre-order bonus.

    …what’s the difference? Why aren’t both okay? Both seem titillating to me.

  • deadeye

    If this is indeed an internal decision, then fine. Maybe they decided the butt slap was too much.

    It’s not like they are obligated to have fanservice.

    I do think it’s shitty though. The fact that it’s just a camera change is…honestly lazy. They could have changed the animation to maybe make it less fanservicey but still look really cool. No one would have had a problem with that, it would have just been another design change, as usually happens in video games. As it is now, it just looks really odd. So odd that people assumed it was a camera glitch.

    And I dunno, maybe make internal decisions like this before you actually put it out there. When you show off something and then change it, people generally won’t like it. Even if it isn’t “censorship” and is just some minor change.

  • BurntToShreds

    If in between the beta periods they had changed the animation entirely while ensuring that it still fit well with her character, I’m sure nobody would have taken issue. Instead, Capcom when the lazy route and shifted the camera angle, which got people asking questions leading to the current situation we have right now.

  • http://thewiredfishnetwork.com/ Steven T.

    You should check out Censored Gaming on Youtube. Usually when a game comes out over in Japan, they usually censor the blood and gore by shifting the camera angle instead just doing something different. They’re very lazy with the censorship. Looks like we’re getting a taste of that shit over here too, but with sex.

  • dathip

    GET OVER IT! I am still buying it! LOL. Go Get married and commit to your spouse you pathetic losers

  • Mighty No. 56008

    Oh this silly argument about gamers being losers. Look, it’s not just about the “fanservice” we’re losing here:

    – Something was taken out due to “potential backlash”
    – Said backlash would only come from people who most likely wouldn’t even play the game anyway
    – The change makes little sense and very minor considering what was left in
    – This minor change can set a dangerous precedent, with bigger changes or censorships
    – Game devs will feel safe to make games how they would like to

    – This can (and has) eventually convince publishers to simply not release games to the West at all

    And I know I know, don’t feed the troll

  • dathip

    LOL your image of “trolls” being “miserable.” I got too many games to play to even care about stuff being taken out. I am still buying it! If your mad, DON’T buy it. At least companies like Xseed and Atlus are taking a stand. Now if this game came out with some BS money grabbing $$ practice, then I would join your guys rally lol

  • Mighty No. 56008

    But you admit you’re a troll? Hahahahhahahaha fantastic!!

    Anywho thanks for your words of wisdom

  • dathip

    I didn’t admit anything. But goodluck with your boycott. Buying day one! XD

  • Mighty No. 56008

    MIss the joke that you tried to address the myth that all trolls are miserable, but nothing about denying being one.

    Anywho, not “my” boycott but yes, people will buy it if they truly want it. Cheers

  • dirtysteve

    Yeah! Then spend your time like this twat, trying to get a reaction on comment sections!

  • BurntToShreds

    They could have replaced the butt slap with an entirely different animation that fit with R. Mika’s character and everything would have probably been fine. Instead they went the lazy route and shifted the camera upward, causing people to start questioning them and leading us to where we are right now.

  • Josh

    I hope you’re happy with these lost sales, Capcom. There’s probably a lot more where these came from.

    https://www.change.org/p/capcom-do-not-censor-street-fighter-v?recruiter=206300926&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

  • Mr Silvio

    From now on, I will never again trust a Capcom trailer if it doesn’t include an official statement assuring that the content shown will not be censored due to complaints from a couple of Tumblrinas. Heck, the whole game is looking like some unstable construction in danger of suffering even more censorship (it can be an “excessively violent” Critical Art, it can be an alt costume, it can be some “naughty” dialogue lines from Juri, you name it). Not something I would be inclined to economically support, honestly.

  • British_Otaku

    Unfortunately, outside of H-games, it is fairly rare to know whether something is uncut from the get go. You’ll have to wait for every game to come out first more or less.

  • Guest

    I’m getting really tired of all the people trying to redefine censorship, saying ‘this is just the choice they made as artists to change their own content, it’s not censorship’. They changed it out of fear of backlash, there is no other reason to change it. If you cover up your work out of fear that a third party will come down on you, how is that anything but censorship? What, because you did it yourself it’s okay, even if it was done to avoid the fucking axe someone was holding over your head?

    It’s really disappointing how fucking spineless Ono is being here. Between this and DoA, and Idea Factory I’m really getting the impression that people from the western gaming media are giving Japanese developers a hard time or something. Just out of the blue they’re scared of offending people, changing their games, not bringing them over all at once. Probably threatening bad press and internet mobs.

  • anon9370

    Legions of twatter hordes with pitch forks and torches.

  • sanic

    That’s shitty but I don’t expect much else from capcom, can’t not buy the game already harder than I currently am.

  • http://www.dailydpad.de HarisO

    So now neo-puritan American norms are seeping through to Japan. Because this act of censorship will be reflected in the Japanese version of SFV as well. We are inching closer and closer to the point where devs that are aiming primarily for the Japanese market aren’t going to bother localising their games anymore because they won’t be interested in compromising their integrity to appeal to the politically correct non-buyers. The golden years of almost boundless localisation of Japanese games might be over in a few years and we are only going to be left with “safe” and “unproblematic” games. Or butchered stuff.

  • Kiryu

    I’m more a KOF fan so i don’t give a shit about SFV but i’m saddened to see that more and more Japanese companies are being polluted by sjw ideology.

  • Badmojo7

    The thing is, the people they are trying to please do not buy their game and will STILL bitch about the game. So in the end they only pissed off their own fanbase.

  • Tempest

    I freaking called it since the first Niche article about the censorship. I freakin KNEW it was censored.

  • Thanatos2k

    Well I said before to give them the benefit of the doubt until someone from the company explained. Now that’s gone. Pathetic, Crapcom.

  • Mangowannabango

    Arent you guys over reacting? Its just a buttslap.

  • Mighty No. 56008

    Now it’s a buttslap. Next we’ll have companies not wanting to release games here at all (i.e. DOAX3).

  • SiliconNooB

    Starting from ZERO means finding a new audience.

  • Lea Pastillaroja

    You put it way to nicely, in my opinion, starting from ZERO means getting rid of your current audience

  • DariusQ

    Well yeah it was an internal decision, the game hasn’t even come out yet so there’s nothing for anyone to complain about yet. Ono basically admitted to caving in to imaginary external forces.

    Whatever. I’m still going to buy SFV but its eye opening to know that a demographic of people who will never play SF and will probably still blacklist the game can impact the developers & fans experience. And here I thought Capcom couldn’t possibly sink any further.

  • Uranus

    “We placate the lowest common denominator” said Capcom, deciding SF has to join CoD in the shit tier franchises.

    Thank god Guilty Gear Xrd is way too good.