Wow this is the worst kind of censorship, sounds like they’re fucking up the entire game. Was interested in this too beforehand, but now they can screw themselves.

You’re not responsible enough to determine what you should and should not consume. Let us do that for you.

I dont get this why would you bring over a game and change it away that will get the target audience mad

Supposedly it’s to get a wider audience. But if you take one look at the game, you’ll know immediately what audience this is even intended for.

That’s not the audience who would be offended that a sleezebag is being sleezy or that he gets forced into a life of heavy snu-snu instead of the meek waifu he was after.

BOYCOTT!

The game’s years old, it was already dated before it came out!

Funimation: We’re a professional localisation team!

Japanese version:
‘Don’t you know how to treat a senior?!’

Funimation version:
‘Oh you’re not one of those gamergate losers?!’

Seriously we need new studios to work in these fields.

I think Funimation gets some creative license on some of the animes they localize. Shinchan is a big example. While fantasy animes like Fairy Tail(MY FAVORITE) and Full Metal Alchemist dont feature any western references in the new dialogue, Ultimate Otaku teacher does.

The funimation dub for Shin-Chan is HILARIOUS. Much better than the straight translation, IMO- but a lot of that is because of the explicit addition of all the extremely non-PC jokes in that dub. Can’t even imagine them doing anything like that now. It’s sad how much can change in 10 years.

To them, cronyist takeover is considered a justified breach of ethical conduct “for the greater good” because they consider their political opposition “sub-human”.

Ever heard a leftist talk about middle america? If they had a choice they’d round up anyone outside a coastal city into concentration camps.

That’s my goal when I finish learning Japanese, though I don’t know if any of the big companies will hire someone without any connections.

Thanks for the advice.

Fansub groups aren’t sjw : )

Funimation version:
‘Oh you’re not one of those gamergate losers?!’

It was “GamerGate creepshows”, because all of Funimation’s writers were cryogenically frozen back in the 50s and were only recently thawed out.

I’ve heard that Bravely Second also has a lot of Japanese memes, will NoA compound on the issue or will they remove it and actually make the game better.

Exactly. If the original game has annoying shit in it, that’s fine. The game will be judged as a whole with that. That’s what’s supposed to happen.

The whole point of being outraged about this crap going on now is that we’re getting literal rewrites instead of translation and localization.

The memes, Jack!

Well Goons lost 10 dollars and the Gaming Authoritarian Force lost 1 year of their life waiting to post on a forum.

Plus GAF can handle anime better than Goons, who get triggered by anime tiddies.

The hilarious thing is I read that most, if not all, of the translation work was done. NCSoft hired this localization team to then fuck it all up. Not literally of course, but that’s clearly what’s happened.

That’s probably the most outrageous thing to me. Now you’re shitting on the work of TWO major groups of people. How fucked up of a person do you have to be to do that? What kind of delusional, insane power complex do you have to have to act like this?

They’re literally fucking cancer.

Where is this from? Is this his LinkedIn profile?

Nightgowns are culturally unacceptable as fuck.

I’ll link the others I found. You can just read their NCSoft portions, though you may find other goodies.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesbertonjones THIS fucker is the worst after Clay Murphy. He’s so proud of his “job.”
https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamindwagner
https://www.linkedin.com/in/herrerakayla

every western or western-localized MMO is full to bursting with pop culture references. blame blizzard & WoW for normalizing this. FFXIV cannot do anything without puns and memes everywhere, and they even re-write some of the story dialogue to reflect it

Ouch. Another game I won’t be getting, another company I won’t be supporting. So sad.

Probably too stupid to work around a DDOS.

Changing costumes? Whatever. I don’t like it, but I can deal with it, and doesn’t impact the game.

Totally changing characters and story elements? That’s where I draw the line. They’re putting their own view above the developers. I don’t know where localization teams get the idea that they should do this sort of crap, but it needs to stop.

Removing any kind of character flaw from the player character is just ridiculous. Not every good guy is 100% good. Everyone has flaws.

I could go on and on about this, but it makes me sad. Although I am more thankful for some of the localization folks out there that actually do a good job.

I mean – are you forced to do the quest? You can say No right? Then what’s the problem??

I think he’s saying “why change the quest because it makes you uncomfortable if you can refuse it.”

IE. He’s saying the localization team shouldn’t change it.

Also, this change seems kind of dumb.

The localization team is ok with violent quests, but spying on a woman makes them feel icky? Sounds like they have some issues.

“This isn’t “I’m mad because I can’t be a pervert in a video game”, I’m upset that someones artistic choices are being squashed because it made some people uncomfortable.”

I don’t see the difference here between a questline and a costume. A costume is just as much someone’s artistic vision as a quest’s storyline. I don’t see the logic or point in drawing a line in the sand between the two.

It does for me because they said there would be no censorship.

Ikr!It was the same and they didn’t care.This is so stupid.They made othe changes in the plot too and they don’t even have a reason for it.

It’s free to play though so you can technically never give them any money lol

Was just teasing ^_^

You clearly haven’t been following the game if you think you need to buy it xD

Am I back in the 90s when Nintendo censored every little thing in games? I thought we had already move over that phase. *sigh* all these assholes in charge of localizations are causing gaming to regress

Welp, that’s like the 10th game this year that I was curious about and not going to even touch anymore. Thanks NCSOFT!

this game isn’t Japanese….

The irony.

No~.

Aren’t we all~?

thanks for deciding what would be ofensive for me or not and pushing your shity agenda into my hobby once again!
makes me hate these social justice twats even more.

Seriously, they literally did it because the localization team didn’t like it. So basically all of the consumers are screwed if localization teams are filled with these kind of fragile people that get triggered by a fucking quest in a video game.

Yeah while that is stupid, at least that’s better than them removing actual content or censoring something.

I actually wanted to upgrade my founders pack to a Masters pack before release, but now after all this shit, I don’t even know what to feel :l

What gets me the most is the elimination of moral ambiguity. Are MMOs not allowed to touch on morally grey areas? Is that now solely the domain of AAA games and indie shit? At least there are MMOs like Star Wars: The Old Republic that let you go full evil….

Even the term “cartoonishly evil” is only anglosphere.

In anime, barring obvious and deliberate slapstick, villains have motivations which can be understood in terms of reason and which can even come across as sympathetic.

Glorious Nippon offers their elementary and middle-school aged progeny more moral agency in their media than Hollywood does American adults.

This. So much.

Yes, thanks for the headsup on this. I was starting to hear some positive buzz about this game, but now I too have zero interest. There are plenty of games I can play that aren’t being censored by localization teams. Sorry this happened to Blade & Soul.

I also laughed at the new empowered poses and costume changes in the screenshots. Haha. The lingerie poses are cheese, but so what? That’s what the game devs made, and it’s up to gamers, not localizers, about whether they want to play that or not.

And just like that, it’s off my radar.

Wow….the localization teams this days know how to trigger fans of the game to not only piss them off while removing forum posts about the “Questionable” material.

I agree, but the NCsoft CM has been locking and pruning threads on this and offering empty platitudes.

He’s been banning people speaking out against the localization moves while allowing a radical feminist to spew vitriol which would bring you up on hate speech charges if it referred to jews rather than men.

It’s obvious nothing more will happen without obvious external scrutiny from the enthusiast communities.

If you have to silence your critics then you know you’re in the wrong. People who believe in what they’re doing don’t need to hide.

Ho Ho it’s getting better & better the mind of the SJW crowd is overwhelming for me.

Very good Brandon some comedy right there…

“Blames the player for ruining his life” wow that the trigger right there for them oh noes a NPC shouting at me.

& making the player a decent man got all the hallmarks of SJW trigger happy titshead.

We can’t have NPC blaming sentiment SJWs can we or spy on women not lolis women so we went from lolis to women & still the SJW crowd got they FUCKING WAY.

Well guess what I won’t be getting the game even if it’s fucking free.

Because I think EU will be censored too because all other games NA & EU gets censored together.

I’m hope I’m wrong & it’s not censored NA could import EU version right.

I don’t get it. The original quest line has the bad person get some punishment for his offences. It doesn’t appear to be supporting the NPC’s viewpoints, but showing the dangers of such blind misogyny and attempts at romantic manipulation.

The game is already toast for being years late to the party, who do you think you’re enticing with these changes?

For those who are still curious if the team bringing B&S to the States did promised that the game will not be censored, here’s their video that proves them making claims on their now empty words at 1:11:50:

https://youtu.be/5Lsyj1W6LyA?t=1h11m50s

I think that guy is no longer on the team. He probably disagreed with their SJW ways.

Lol 😀

I got to play the closed beta. I didn’t even pay attention to the story. It was extremely generic, and this sidequest sounds like another old school kung-fu side story, which of course the localization team lacked any real understanding of, as usual. I guess that explains why it put me to sleep after a couple of hours. The combos are relatively fun with friends, but I found the controls way less flexible than Terra and very unintuitive. Attacks change depending on all kinds of things and you have to sit there and read the whole manual to understand why your character is doing one thing at one point and another thing at another point.

tl;dr let’s admit it, the storyline of an MMO is rarely remembered and usually skipped. The harm is done by the gameplay first on this one.

It’s not about whether the story is sub-par or not; it’s the fact that its subject matter is being altered to “be fit to a broader audience”.

At the end of the day, an MMO can have the shittiest storyline known to mankind. That’s fine, people can vote with their free time, but when you promise content will not be censored in a western release, and then you do a 180 and start censoring large swaths of it before said release, you haven’t just done an anti-consumer move and tarnished your game’s reputation before it’s even out, you’ve straight-up lied to your audience.

Make your story however you want. But don’t tone it down assuming we’re little kids who can’t take it.

Their official discussion on this has been condescending to say the least.

They put up a pinned thread saying “open discussion”, they then went around nuking page after page of people dissenting against their PC Policing.

My absolute favorite is where the head Localizer actually dismissed legitimate rasmussen polls showing NOBODY WANTS THE PC POLICE

(Waugriff)

(Last Writer Standing)

plasmacutter

Also, just for the sake of clarity since you’ve posted that link twice now: that poll mentions that it covers a national survey of 1,000 American adults, of which 71% responded they are against censorship in general. That’s a total of 710 people. The current approximate population of the USA, according to a quick check on Google, is 325,127,634. That’s a pretty small survey pool, all things considered. If your intention is to accurately present the opinions of the US population on a broad scale, you should probably find a source of information that uses a much larger sample size.

You clearly have no idea how polling works. A sample size of 1000 people (which is normal) leaves only a tiny percentage for margin of error. Rasmussen is also a very well respected polling company.

Your complaint is moot and all things considered, you should probably not comment on things you do not know about just so you can try and dismiss empirical data which disagrees with the decisions carried out by your team.

As for a question, will the ingame profanity filter be altered so that it doesn’t censor ridiculous words such as “Hitler” and “jihad” and “retarded”? Also is it yet known how much premium will cost on launch, as right now it is only 1 ncoin

Funny how they banned only the anti-censorship people from the threads

Into the trash

it’s more than those 2. you should probably look into it more if you want to comment

Not enough to really warrant all this crying.

Completely changing Jinsoyun’s personality and back-story to turn her until snidley whiplash would be another.

NOA seems to rubbing off of everyone lately.

True but that could be modded back in. I don’t know if a questline and dialogue can be in this case.

Are you talking about Tera or Blade and Soul? I modded Elins back to their original and nothing happened.

Wow! Seriously fuck them then! The hell is with all these localizations using memes?

Here’s a question did the team feel “uncomfortable” about this content naturally or because of propaganda that’s been beaten into their heads the past couple years?

You guys seriously have nothing else better to do. A few changes to some quests/Storyline and you guys scream like babies. They are quests….you do them once and their gone, usually fast. If it was something like my outfits/Character model, yes i would be mad but……quests…..

Damn, you’re like a fckin parasite.

So are you sheep.

Some more than others. I mean they removed actual story content and put outfits behind paywall. It’s disgusting.

I’m not sure what you was expecting to do with outfits in the game they don’t provide stats and for the most part are faction based or just for looks ofc they where going to put them in the cash shop. Not even sure why that is a complain because the other versions themselves do this and they could have just went full pay to win mode with the game like the china version.

I can get the story complaints because like i said all they did was just turn it into a disjointed mess but the last thing i thought i see is bitching about shit that doesn’t destroy the economy or break the game in a cash shop let alone in a f2p game no less.

Lol i already know. It’s all just “Minor” things, but alot of them. I understand why everyone is a little uneasy but no need to cause such an uproar about it. Everybody keeps asking “Why” and expect an answer immediately and when they don’t get it, this happens.

It’s how you represent your question to be answered. When you go onto the forums and start raging and demanding an answer, you might just get ignored. I mean, maybe some get bad service because they act like an ass?

That’s kinda fcked up. Although he did mention he would be deleting posts that don’t contribute to the discussion of him answering questions. So most likely the people who were banned got reported by other people? Lol.

because you let it slide once, you let it slide twice, eventually, it takes over.

that’s why people get upset

The story and characters are being changed. People aren’t getting the product they were promised, namely the same product as the rest of the world.

Wait… A quest?, not only the default outfit (which i must admit, it helps to create a character easier) but change story content, even if they are sidequest, is stupid, extremely stupid

I heard NCSoft localises movies for TV as well:

https://youtu.be/DuQP4d_r_Gs

And heres how NCSoft localised Akira:

https://youtu.be/jafd97yJFOI

Blade and Soul is SJW trash, got it.

Dododoro of MMOSite here, when asked about the localization and changes this was the answer I received and I was HIGHLY disappointed that they’ve taken that route (I’ll also be writing an article on the Westernization Conundrum)
https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/forums/index.php?/topic/139406-open-discussion-with-english-localization/?p=1418764

I’m afraid I can’t answer any questions about the history of the game simply because I’m unaware of it myself. The current run of NA/EU localization for Blade & Soul began at the end of 2014 and we’ve been working from the ground up localizing/translating from the core Korean source and EN1 translations sent over by the Devs. To the best of my knowledge, we haven’t used any content featured prior to 2014. The primary direction given to us when it came to localizing content was not to make things easier or dumb things down, but to make sure the content would be accessible to a broader audience. Ideally, Blade & Soul can be enjoyed by everyone, even those who have no prior knowledge of the Wuxia genre, the game itself, or its fan-made translations. We were asked to ensure that the content would be welcoming to all players and readily understood in different regions with as low an immediate learning curve as possible

with as low an immediate learning curve as possible.

as low an immediate learning curve as possible.

low

learning

curve

https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/forums/index.php?/topic/139406-open-discussion-with-english-localization/?p=1419537

As of the recent CBT3 update one of the characters has been changed as well as her dialogue (Due to people being offended by her southern accent)
https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/forums/index.php?/topic/142364-closed-beta-3-change-notes/

It baffles me when companies do this.
Censorship to appeal to a broader audiences.

People who are not into anime aesthetics aren’t going to say “Well, they blurred out the boobs, so now i’m totally interested in this”.

Just like adding anime characters to football helmets isn’t going to get me interested in sports.

They claimed that it was “Just a placeholder” voice actress after threads kept popping up about her voice.

They removed a stretching animation from female PC’s in Guild Wars 2, they also altered their running animation to make it more manly for reasons I cannot comprehend, I guess nobody in the studio has seen how a woman runs.

So I’m not surprised, the company has its fair share of SJWs.

There was a pretty good chance I was gonna play this…but holy fucking shit these progressive libtards are everywhere now. There’s no way I’m touching the NA release of this with a 10 foot pole. I don’t suppose there are fan-made english patches for the Japanese version of the game or some such thing like PSO2 does?

I hear the TW version is understandable. I’d get a gaming VPN to drop the ping.

These people go on and on about “diversity” and “respect for other cultures” only to engage in “cultural erasure” when they don’t like what they see.

The faq has a quick-link to the refund request.

I’ve already put mine in. I’ll donate that 125 bucks to #freedomoftweets instead.

In case it wasn’t obvious, why this new* ‘wave’ of censorship has hit gaming lately, is mostly because of two reasons.

1. Bad press. Especially evident in Nintendo’s case. Though is true that most people that would raise a fuss, about, let’s say the underwear in Project Zero/Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water were in all likelihood people that would not buy the game anyway, thus their disapproval of such content (which would most likely be appealing or at least neutral to most actual customers) would not directly affect sales. Nintendo’s family friendly image would be dragged through the mud by the media and that could have an adverse effect on the company as a whole, given how they choose to market themselves (whether Nintendo should market itself differently or not is another discussion).

Keep in mind, when I say media, I don’t mean the games media as much as the mainstream media. Tomodachi Life got a lot of attention from the usual progressive media based on its exclusion of gay marriage, since then Nintendo has been extra careful not to offend SJW types.

2. Localization teams being co-opted by progressive ideologists. Evident by Tweets and other ideologically driven comments made by members of said teams on occasion and the result of their work. Even if a word wasn’t given from above, many of them will try to inject their ideology and censor or alter things to make them more ‘inclusive’ and ‘progressive’, which would not be a hard sell to corporate, since who likes to be called a racist, homophobic, misogynist?

All of that sentiment is driven by a more general social climate and authoritarian/libertarian ideological battle that is going on right now, that unfortunately unless it resolves things are only going to get worse before they get better.

And remember, for every Japanese game you hear is getting censored, there’s many western games, that get self censored at the cradle before you even hear about them, as developers and marketers are walking on eggshells right now, trying not to upset the giant progressive boogieman that will smear and slander their work as the slight hint of impropriety.

What you can do about it? Well nothing really, vote with your wallet where you can and if you are really dedicated learn Japanese and import. But this is a result of something bigger and the change will be reflected in gaming when the dust settles, in whatever direction it may go.

*New in the sense that it has intensified. Video games were always subject to censorship, and have always basically censored by the merit of their existence (in the sense of what you can get away with and market compared to other media).

Let’s not forget that Japan is also censoring foreign games and making similar decisions in some of their animations and having ridiculous porn material restrictions.
The Tomodachi Life stuff was a game breaking bug and was possible only with a game that didn’t come out here, it was incredibly disingenuous. I think the boards may have gotten stricter.

The best solution is to contact the companies with your issues and support on an case by case basis, there’s no reason to miss out on a good game because of some jackass publisher unless they do go to far.

There is a lot of things the author is missing regarding this, note I do not fault the author as these were buried.

It’s a gross exaggeration, and many quests were flagged and put into question, this one was the only one changed. To be honest it was a cringe quest that literally had 4 if not less dialogue interactions.

-There is no translation team. The team making these changes are a “writing” team.

https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/forums/index.php?/topic/139406-open-discussion-with-english-localization/page-3#entry1417807

https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/forums/index.php?/topic/139406-open-discussion-with-english-localization/page-4#entry1418390

-They didn’t translate anything. Korea translated it and sent it over to them fully in English (EN1).

https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/forums/index.php?/topic/139406-open-discussion-with-english-localization/?p=1416651

-Blue quests, like the ones mentioned in this thread, aren’t under as strict regulations as yellow quests.
https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/forums/index.php?/topic/139406-open-discussion-with-english-localization/page-3#entry1418316

Uh, no, I suggest you do some research between them if you honestly believe a single blue quest edit (Most likely encouraged by the Korean team) overrides the pay to win concept China, for example has incorporated.

This is a melodramatic reaction, plain and simple.

Where? There literally has been no quest changes since Alpha, the entire purpose of closed beta is to exercise the translations that have already happened. The ‘censorship” wave kind of already took off

“Most likely encouraged by the Korean team”

If it was, they’d have said so. They instead said they changed it because THEY wanted to.

Please don’t defend garbage behavior.

Nice. No, don’t give the game to another studio that will do a proper localization. Take the money and fuck it up. Terrific!

Indeed!

Why are we riding a wave of censorship and can it please stop?

“No, this is the world you chose to live in, now choke on it!”
~God

The original version of that quest sounds completely awful and i’d have felt like a reprehensible piece of shit had I done it, but that’s hardly any excuse to change it

Knowing about the game I (and many others) could easily just make the choice not to play it

Yes, happens all the time. Have you never played Tactics Ogre? Undertale? Plenty of games that make you do sketchy shit and I always feel like a bastard for doing it

Although those examples are kinda different since the things you do in them tend to be more violence oriented than just being grossly and creepily sexual like this

I have a higher tolerance for violence than sexual deviancy so in those cases I just let myself feel like a dick whereas with this i’d just avoid it either by skipping the quest or not playing the game at all

I still need to play Spec Ops, I’ve heard good things about how much i’ll hate myself by the end of it. lol

I think for me it’s really just a matter of context. Like I can handle some pretty graphic sexual stuff it I think it’s presence in the story is valid (e.g I read the Berserk manga completely fine), but if it comes across as creepy or I get the impression that it’s just there to give people a boner it makes me pretty uncomfortable

Similar thing applies to violence. Like, Tactics Ogre was a good example. You can do some awful stuff in that game but it’s all plot justified. However things like Mortal Kombat or GTA just make me cringe and I don’t play them

But of course I don’t advocate for any of it being changed or banned. If I don’t like something then obviously it just wasn’t made for me

yea the original quest makes me cringe, personally

but that’s a personal discomfort and not grounds for me to ban shit.

shit, adam sandler films make me cringe with admittedly transphobic jokes, but i’m not telling anyone to stop watching or to ban all sandler films. like… that’s my fucking deal.

they arnt just censoring it cus theyre sjw’s
they are making MORE money the longer it takes to “localise” the product
that means changing shit which shouldnt be changed
aka CENSORING
they want as much cash as possible this is a case of abject GREED

Why can’t people just make two different scripts and have them selectable in the options instead of being totally candy asses about it?

Oh shit, I didn’t expect this thread to end up on Nichegamer o.o. Nice to see you guys reporting on this!

“My feelings are facts.”

These people deserve to lose their jobs.

Hopefully, but if the majority of gamers are still getting their news from the big mainstream sites, then stories like this will only be downplayed. That’s why its more important to promote niche blogs sites like this and let people know that there are alternatives!

“The best part? The localization team is also deleting posts on their
forums which are criticizing their choices, instead of forwarding said
posts to actual developers working on the team.”

My goodness, this is pretty much equal to Mighty No 9 level of bullcrap!

it sucks that the states have to deal with shit localization teams like this I mean what can we do? nothing because any complaints we have about the changes made never gets to the developers so we are just stuck with whatever changes these people make they abuse their power. they arent our parents and they arent the fucking moral authority either. theres really nothing we can do about this shit and thats what pisses me off the most.

Tree of Savior just let their fans translate it and it worked out so much better. these localization companies are worthless.

Refund that shit! Or refund then buy a cheaper pack. They’re asking for it. Lol

Got a link to promises of no censorship? Looks like we got another Payday 2 dev on our hands.

Blatant lies. How pathetic.

Be sure to read this thread: https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/forums/index.php?/topic/139206-what-did-you-do-to-the-story-spoilers/
It details some more unneeded story changes that this writing team did, that just added a ton more plotholes and general inconsistencies to the games plot…Be wary though, spoilers obviously.

“the staffer goes on to mention that in its original form the questline “made pretty much everyone on the team really uncomfortable.””

Because, naturally, everything is all about them, and not the people who would be buying the damn game. FFS, why would anyone hire people like them? I really just can’t understand how they have jobs.

People play MMORPG’s for story? I thought it was all about the dress-up. That’s what players end up paying for in the end, right?

Changing the entire story of the game to please feminists? Really?

Are private servers still a thing? I know with Aion I used to play on a private server, not because of story but because I couldn’t afford it at the time. I would assume that with private servers perhaps they get a hold of the original source rather than some poorly adapter version of it.

First SF5 and now this? I’m sick of games I want to play being ruined because some ethnocentric dipshit on the localization staff is offended by it and labels everything he doesn’t like with the “M” word. I am legitimately pissed off by this, I was going to try the beta this weekend and now it looks like I’ll be passing on this game.

Stop trying to “protect” people from being offended you idiots. By doing this you’re making the executive decision to choose for us, to assume that we, the playing and paying customers, would also be offended by it. We wouldn’t. We’re adults and we know what we’re getting into you fucking morons. We don’t need you tarnishing things we want to enjoy.

Really disappointed that we’re seing more and more games being censored but I’ll still have a look at it.

I’m surprised the Japanese developers don’t have a problem with some localizers changing their games… Sure, the western market probably isn’t their focus, but wouldn’t they as artists have a problem with someone censoring/changing their stuff?

Only the executives get a say I imagine, and the only things they’ll hear is what their western counterparts tell them which is that the changes are necessary to increasing sales and totally won’t piss anyone off.

Asian studios (both for games and anime) generally have no idea and rarely care about what goes on in the west, including even Nintendo with NOA. It’s usually a hands-off “Uhhh…you guys handle everything”, they see themselves as too separated to really understand a north american or european market well enough to handle it themselves.

So why is it that a potential M rated game gets censored? I’m sorry aren’t adults supposed to be playing this game?!

So a localisation team thinks that their retarded opinions are important enough to warrant changing the content of a game to their own comfort level. And these are the people that want games to be art, by trying to become fig leaf censors.

Honestly I’m okay with the first quest they changed. Censorship is one thing, but when the designers themselves are uncomfortable with the story they found themselves telling, changing it is just editing. That happens a lot in storytelling, no problem.

It’s the other changes that bother me. Sterilizing villains? Stripping out moral ambiguity? Why? To what point and purpose? How does this enrich the story?

Yeah, I derped and didn’t notice it was a post-release localization team. Looking for a delete button…

I already requested a refund.

Fuck this noise.

Got my refund without any problems <3

There’s a reason why I’ve been studying Japanese for the last 5-6 years, censorship is getting out of control 😣

Here’s an idea. Let the audience decide with their wallets.

Since when a “localization team” has a decision-making word in anything ? They do what they are told to do.

At first I felt like this would be one of the few MMOs I’d be willing to give a chance to, but now that the localization is literally raping the script and denying the artistic vision of the developers with this Sock Juice bullshit, I guess that I will have to give it a pass, too.

smh… already had to wait for this game to release here for so long and then they say all this no Censoring and they lied lol

they are already making things bad for the game

once again another game brought over just to be changed and things taking out and Censored for dumb or no reason at all smh…. its really getting annoying

That’s assuming that the offended parties grinded long enough to even get to that part of the game. As most people here have stated, adults should decide for themselves what they do and don’t find to be offensive. Vote with your wallets folks!

Hmph. Just like “Bravely” Default. Well, with the right people, all we need is to bring the JP Skins to the US, and mod the ROMs.

I got my SD Cards at the ready.

I think, I getting black desert at this point. So close to buy but SJWs once again ruin my games.

…and suddenly I’ve lost what little interest I might have had for this game

“It’s not a matter of censorship or anything like that. It’s more a question of whether or not we wanted to include some genuinely questionable and uncomfortable content when we had the ability to make it something more welcoming.

When I’m presented with the choice of writing a character and story line that is pretty reprehensible without it being critical commentary on his actions, or reworking it to a more positive direction that isn’t going to make me and others squirm, I’m not exactly going to hesitate to go for the latter.”

This is the golden line in all this. I don’t think ANYTHING counts as censorship anymore to these people.

SJW’s gotta make money though, and this kind of job lets them push their worldview. fuck videogames, social justice is more important
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Well, looking at everything in bigger perspective I think we’re barking the wrong tree. They were /specifically/ hired by NC to do what they did – make it socially/politically correct (so NA-ish), more simple with clean black and white hero/villian distinction (again, so NA-ish).

IMHO, the decision makers in NA are to blame. After all there was little-to-nothing to translate to begin with, besides grammar/interpunction/etc. They (bosses) specifically wanted to “appropriately” dumb it down.

What a Douchelord

https://plus.google.com/+BenjaminWagners/about

Here’s the asshole’s G+ account.

Woah. That was a bit much, no?

“NA…rest of the world”
Sure, EU will totally get the uncensored costume.

Hope the EU won’t get censored like this

From one of the localization team’s linkedin page:

“Transformed rough translations into polished English copy worthy of a native audience. Revised all textual content within the game for quality, including the renaming of items, locations, monsters and UI elements.”

“Re-envisioned plot elements, quests and dialogue to better suit and entertain a western audience, without straying from the original vision of the product narrative. Adapted and explained foreign cultural elements. Replaced insensitive and culturally inappropriate content. Provided QA services such as the identification of problematic materials and implementation testing of content specific to western release.”

This is not even censouring This is outright sabotage. did the devs contracted ISIS to localize their stuff?

They removed the lingerie so players could better see the bodies of their characters when in character customization.

Players were thankful to finally be able to better see the body of their characters as they worked with the body sliders. The NA community admitted they would miss the lingerie & requested that it be sold in IM since many liked them, and it was understandable why it was removed in the first place.

NCsoft did not lie or technically lie about them not censoring the costumes so relax people. No need to try to make things sound worse then they are.

The article says at the end: {It’s worrying when NCSOFT previously said they would never censor the western version of the game, only to now hear them say “Oh, we only meant costumes, we’ll never censor costumes.” They slightly lied in this case as well, with the removal of lingerie (as clothing), instead putting them behind a paywall}

I am saying no they didn’t technically lie about the clothes. Nothing has been censored for them.

I was just explaining that my 1st post was only pertaining to the outfits, not the actual quest. People have been complaining about the outfits as well and I am clearing up the situation of the outfits. That was all.

This is not what I meant when I say SJW should make their own games. This is not making their own games. This is changing other people’s games. WHY DO eastern developers employ SJW companies for localization. WHY? Right now I don’t even feel like buying the game anymore. (That original quest was pretty funny to me)

You do know that censorship applies to more than art assets right? as in storyline has been sanitized so that it doesn’t trigger some rando that will never play the game

In a nutshell the official statement was that there would be no censorship.

This changed when it came to light that their localizers would be pushing their political agendas while dumbing down the story for western audiences.

They lied.

While costumes are currently uncensored, NCsoft has a history of censoring their games in the west and potential spenders should be made aware when spending money on NCsoft games.

I am not going to play this if i see the dialogs changed.I will play the Japanese ver. and that wouldn’t be good for you Ncsoft.I don’t want my char to be a ”hero” or the bad npcs to be cartoonish evil type.

why are most professional localization teams such garbage? people like this are why i dont play as many Japanese games as i would like to.