Report: Nintendo Censors Outfits in Xenoblade Chronicles X

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We’ve learned (via NeoGAF) that it seems like Nintendo’s western localization arm is on a roll when it comes to protecting the eyes of the innocent from underage polygons wearing skimpy clothes, as we’ve learned that yet another game has potentially been censored.

Featured above as well as below, you can view some comparisons (via user Teikage) between the European and the Japanese versions of Lin, one of the main characters in Xenoblade Chronicles X.

The Japanese versions have the more revealing bikinis, while the European version has the more covered outfit. It’s worth mentioning the character is 13 years old in the Japanese version, and reportedly 15 years old in the western localization.

Xenoblade Chronicles X is launching on December 4th in both North America and Europe, for the Wii U.

Editor’s Note: The article originally presumed the character had her legs made shorter as well – this has been proven to be false.

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  • DrWawee

    #boycottNintendo.

  • NintendoNaut

    Oh for crying out loud.

  • DLMartin

    Fatal Frame’s costume removal was stupid, but this is warranted. They are undeaged girls, people.

  • Kiryu

    Ok i’ll have enough now,not that i’m surprised,was expecting this.Another game i want and Nintendo censors it,fuck you Nintendo and stick your Wii U where the sun doesnt shine.No money from me anymore.

  • Dakt

    >NeoGaf
    Salt at the ready

  • Kiryu

    No it is not,stop justifying this.These are fictional characters.

  • Mea K

    They’re just polygons, friend.

  • Raspberry

    welp looks like i’m buying XbCX used. Bought a danm wiiu for this game.

  • Mir Teiwaz

    This just seems silly. I can (kind of) understand changing her outfits…but you can’t call her 15 years old and then make her look like an elementary school kid.

    EDIT: This comment was made before the editor’s note went up.

  • Bix96

    What the hell happened? I know Nintendo has censored stuff in the past but it seems like all of a sudden every single game is being cut/changed in some way.
    I have great fear for Fire Emblem.

  • PSI Wind

    The proportions aren’t changed. It’s just a weird angle. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=183504851&postcount=166

  • Kiryu

    The social justice mob happened and since Nintendo is very concerned with their image they don’t want to be in the spotlight of these buffoons.

  • Eldhin Hellknight

    Nintendo just want people to sabe their money for other things… Because this is very stupid

  • evilmajikman

    15? Wtf was even the point? If you’re going to censor the costumes, there’s no reason to censor the age. I’d understand it if the costume was uncensored with the age being 18 but this makes no damn sense. Also the proportions and costume look terrible now. Whoever changed this shit needs to just leave the gaming industry.

  • blackice85

    I kinda assumed it’d happen at this point.

  • Mea K

    Can’t see that page (because NeoGAF), but I don’t believe slightly different angles can do that. It’s not just the legs either, the culturally localized (lol) version’s head is slightly larger too.

  • Kiryu

    They just saved me alot of money;was planning to buy a Wii U with this game among five and now i have lost all interest.

  • mekia

    Fuck Nintendo won’t throw any money at them anymore. This is just getting beyond silly.

  • Offendatron_5000

    FFFFFUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKK YYYYYOOOUUUUUUU NINTENDO!

    Cancelling my preorder right now. I am NOT funding this shit behavior, even if it means I miss supporting a great core game.

  • Zerotsu

    Is this just for the EU version, or is it US as well?

    I was fairly certain that NoA mentioned they wouldn’t be censoring stuff, too.

  • Kiryu

    Genei Ibun Roku FE to be censored next.

  • Kamen Rider Mike

    Guys, check the editor note before commenting.

  • Rational Human

    Voting with wallet. Purchase decision: No.

  • Trepie

    This was the one game that was going to push me to get a Wii U. Nintendo saved me some money because no way I’m purchasing it now.

  • BeholdMyPower

    Nintendo censors. What is new.

  • Offendatron_5000

    Have to say, the way Nintendo is keeping up with this, I’m considering boycotting the NX as well. Why should I spend $400 or more on a system that I won’t even want half the games I’m interested in due to Nintendo deciding what I can handle in my games. Fuck off Nintendo.

  • Kiryu

    I won’t buy any Nintendo console anymore,enough is enough,put up with enough crap from them.

  • NintendoNaut

    Okay, reality check. The censorship is dumb, but are people really going to boycott over it? I mean, get real–It’s an outfit.

  • Zerotsu

    It’s not so much the outfits themselves, but the implications of the censorship itself. If they censor this, who’s to say they haven’t censored other, more important elements of the game?

  • Offendatron_5000

    The only vote that matters to corporations is the vote you make with your wallet. If someone wants to show their disapproval, its the only real action to take. If it doesn’t bother you enough to affect you, feel free to buy it. Others will choose not to.

  • FlawedIntellect

    Uhg. It’d be nice if enough classical Nintendo fans were able to convince NoA to make a press release that says “Social Justice Warriors, fuck off. You don’t buy our games anyway, and we’re not censoring our games anymore.”

    That’d be the dream.

  • Kiryu

    Both,NOA localizes the Western version.

  • Zerotsu

    Fucking hell…

  • Zoopditto

    Are we sure that it’s the same outfit?
    The added shorts, boots and eyepatch look like a lot of work just for a censor, it even looks kind of cool.

  • Mr0303

    I wonder if the recent censorships indicate a new wave of SJWs at Nintendo. She is one:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJQTUp_sejg

  • SadamBober

    I’d join, but I’m already boycotting them because of the region lock…

  • Kiryu

    Considering Nintendo’s trackrecord with censoring it should not even be a question.

  • Kiryu

    >.< These people are an abomination for the genepool.

  • Anderino

    Can we please make a list of thr recent censorship of NoA in the past year or two so I can write to them about it? I know of Fatal Frame, this, FE:A (although that was 8-4), and Bravely Default (was the censorship Nintendo?). But are the other games where this happened? I don’t care if it’s useless writing to them, I just want to voice my opinion to them and let them know that every time they do this I won’t buy an American game.

  • buddyluv324

    *Shrugs* At this point we all knew this was coming giving Nintendo’s track record. Seems NeoGAF is happy about it though.

  • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

    That’s a bit too much, even though I think it’s dumb to pass on a game because of one character getting a makeover. But I’ll admit, the amount of work dumped into censoring [I mean, come on, a whole new wardrobe + accessories] is a bit too much. I guess Nintendo still hasn’t understood the mentality of gamers~.

  • Kiryu

    Yeah sadly.

  • Raspberry

    because NeoGAF is a ecochamber / circlejerk place for gaming SJWs.

  • Sarracenia

    Yes. Anything, even as simple as changing a costume will stop me from buying your game.
    Fuck off. I’m old enough to know what I want, and I don’t need their puritanical bullshit in my vidya.

  • froyton

    I’m still more turned off to this game by the way the character models are designed. They look like they’ve got some inbreeding going on or something.

  • Vizi István

    Does this change anything about the actual game though? It would be a different business if actual content like scenes or any of the sort would be altered, but this barely changes anything in the grand scheme of things. It’s way less hardcore of a change than say back in the NES/SNES days when games could have MUCH more differences between the JP and Western versions. I understand that some find N’s way of handling things conservative and whatnot, but boycotting, and putting it in a way like the game legit suffered because of this? Come on.

  • phagette

    I immensely regret every buying a Wii U, this was the game I was most looking forward to. Fuck Nintendo of America, they’ve lost me as customer.

  • Kiryu

    That’s a noble thinking but sadly not gona happen.These social fascists get more and more powerfull in gaming,we have to stop them.I will with the little means that i have by voting with my wallet.

  • Valwin Mediaz

    Another game i wont buy again if they did this here just imagine FE fates

  • Vizi István

    If Bayonetta 2 could get trough N without censoring anything content-related, I’m sure this game will get trough just as fine minus this costume altering.

  • Sarracenia

    That’s already too much.

  • Kiryu

    Yes it does,you can buy as much censored games as you want.

  • buddyluv324

    There is that too of course lol. At this point im just exhausted with dealing with Nintendo’s censoring. I think we all should of saw this coming more after the PR scare they’ve gotten with Tomagachi Life

  • Kiryu

    On the bright side and off topic it was also a nice day for me,play asia just told me DOAX3 will be released in Asia uncensored with english subs,preordered.

  • N/A

    So lemme get this straight. Nintendo is perfectly fine with Crossdressing Link as a gameplay mechanic, but women in women swimsuits? OH WE GOTTA CENSOR THAT!

  • Go D. Usopp

    Inb4 I get yelled at (again) for saying that I don’t care and am still buying it (again)

    Honestly the new outfit looks exponentially better anyway, and i’m not the type to boycott on principle (even though I am anti-censorship), if I personally view the changes as an improvement

  • Vizi István

    The interesting thing is that you may miss out on a potentially good game just because of a costume change. A good game remains a good game regardless of some costume changes, and it’s not like actual cutscenes or characters are taken out or rewritten entirely.

  • kate bate mate

    It’s mostly the principle of the thing.

    If changing this is okay, what else will be okay? Changing storylines? Changing gameplay? If localization teams are allowed to overhaul the game that version become less of the game of the game they wanted to buy.

    I want to play the game the devs made, not the game the localization team wish they’d made.

  • Dewey Defeats Truman

    honestly with both NoA and 8-4 involved on this did anyone expect anything else?

    Not defending it but seriously at this point NoA, with regards to any game with a rating over E10, may as well be guilty until proven innocent.

  • N/A

    and that probably won’t have BC making your Wii U purchase even more pointless.

  • Valwin Mediaz

    please Nintendo keep pooping on me

  • ben1192

    You miss the entire point. I’m paying money for what I expect to be the full game, if I don’t get it, what’s the point? I want ALL the content.

  • 22

    Fortunately emulation of the Wii U is in the process. Then we can get the game the developers made (and Fatal Frame as well – that was another one I was really considering).

  • Brimfyre

    I’m just happy I can put an eye patch on her to cover up her creepy looking eyes.

  • Kamen Rider Mike

    But i think the height does matter when the age is not even correct xD Like NoA character as 15 or 16 when japan’s character is 13, something is just not right :v

  • Dewey Defeats Truman

    I honestly do think the new outfits look better, but that doesn’t mean I like them because they’re replacing other content that I guess my precious eyes aren’t allowed to see. If it was just a new alternate costume added to the US version that’d be great.

  • Offendatron_5000

    There’s a happy medium for this though. Let’s say they censored the outfit because each outfit gives certain stats/perks and they want everyone to be able to use all outfits.

    Why not just build in an alternative version of any “racier” outfit? That way, people that want to play it as originally designed (or skimpy) can and those that don’t still get the same experience to the core game?

    Instead, the choice is made for us. Which sucks for those of us that want to just play the game as it was made (or in my case, I like well designed polygons).

  • 22

    Exactly. I want the game the developer made, not the game the localisers want me to play.

  • phagette

    I won’t miss out on it once homebrew or emulation get going. But I’m certainly not enabling this behavior right now or ever.

  • Nicholas Scovelle

    how about you grow up for a second befor start bitch the two cases of quot unquot Censorsip we are talking abut are fatile frame a horor game whare lets face it having thows sexy outfits in was a stupid money grab idea to begin with so removing them is a good thing my my books and now this whare might I say the pic on the left once again seems better bekinis are nice but it looks fucking stupid in a game like Xenoblade

  • N/A

    It’s treating human beings like they’re retarded and can’t deal with the fact a woman is dressed in a woman’s swimsuit. Most of Nintendo’s current fanbase are over 18, yet are being treated like 5 year olds.

  • kate bate mate

    If anyone shames you for buying a game you want, that’s dumb as hell. I hope you have a good time with it.

    I think both versions are pretty ugly. I wasn’t that hyped to get this game, outside just getting a JRPG for WiiU, I’m mostly upset at implications this could have for FExSMT censoring. I want to play a game the devs made, not the game the localization team WISH they’d made.

  • N/A

    and how about YOU learn the English language before trying to act tough over the internet?

  • FailDRE86

    It’s official 4kids have infiltrated Nintendo U.S.

  • zubaaaan

    13 or 15, it’s all in your head. She’s not real. Most games don’t actually make a point of telling you a characters age anyways.

  • apple

    and you want to see the tits of a 13/15 year old girl?

  • Valwin Mediaz

    is the principal

  • Vizi István

    But is this a *significant* content though to the point of missing out a game entirely? Don’t get me wrong, I get why this is frustrating to some, but I personally would be pissed if legit story content would be missing or severely rewritten, a mere costume change in comparison isn’t something I’d be losing sleep over. Again, this is still nothing compared to the stuff that was pulled in the NES days, where even the games’ entire identity could be different between regions.

  • Kiryu

    And how about you go back to school to learn English properly?

  • It’s pretty awesome that we get much better costume designs in EU/NA.

  • Go D. Usopp

    That comment is based entirely on the assumption that I enjoy having immersion breaking bikinis in the middle of serious settings, which I do not, and thus am not being “pooped on” by the loss of them

    If other people care more about a little skin than contextual logic then that’s their own business

  • kate bate mate

    But now instead of changing lesbians and gays to cousins and woman changing it for offended Christians parents it’s “oh nooo sexiness? no in my video gameees” and changing it for offended SJWs.

  • Zeredek

    she’s not a woman thoo

  • evilmajikman

    You do realize it was optional, right? If you didn’t like it, you didn’t have to use it. I hate Alex in Street Fighter because I think he’s one of the most boring characters ever, but you don’t see me whining about them possibly putting him in Street Fighter 5, do you? That said, there’s going to be fans of Alex, and they have the right to not support Street Fighter 5 if he doesn’t make it in. Same thing with this. They saw the original Japanese version and decided that’s what they wanted. This censored version of the costume just looks incredibly ugly to me. The orange scouter eye patch thing, the shorts, it all just clashes. At least the bikini knew what style it was going for. This censored version is just a mess.

  • iamarchaeus

    burn the down the tree house

  • Miragos

    I’m definitely going to boycott NoA and NoE now until they get their shit together or stop region-locking so that I can import Japanese games. I’m not going to buy the same console twice and importing a Japanese console is a hassle.

  • phagette

    She’s not human at all.

  • Kengofu

    *she’s not a human thoo

    Fixed that for you.

  • DrWawee

    Region lock, Treating Lets play videos like ATMs, Refusing to listen to what the fans want, trying to set trends with stupid ass controllers….

    Any other reasons to boycott Nintendo I skipped?

  • OverlordZetta

    Some games do still have the drastic (and genuine) change like that here and there. No matter who’s localized it, only a couple Neptunia games (maybe the first of NISA and IFI or so) got through alright, for example.

  • kate bate mate

    They’re both ugly tbh.

    But one of the costume designs was made by the people who actually made the game and the other was made by people trying to inflict their values onto someone else’s art. Localization is a god damn joke at this point.

  • zubaaaan

    I bet she’d look pretty sweet in a Zelda costume.

  • OverlordZetta

    Nintendo does actually have a history of rewriting some characters as well, actually. I don’t think they ever really stopped the whole “she’s too subservient, make her strong and independent” thing they did in Earthbound.

  • Kiryu

    Too long of a list of what’s wrong with Nintendo,they can continue flopping.

  • apple

    apparently everyone in the comment section wants to see a 13/15 year old girls tits.

  • Problematic Prinny

    Apparently it’s immature to vote with your wallet now. Money talks, retard. Enjoy supporting this while you can. One day it will be something less “stupid”. Because that’s how this has worked throughout all of goddamn history.

  • OverlordZetta

    Honestly, I agree with you, but on the flipside, others have a right to their priorities too, whatever they may be.

    Seeing as my Wii U was stolen before Smash came out, admittedly this is sort of a non-issue for me right now anyway though.

  • Aaron K Stone

    Nintendo is the developer. Nintendo is the localiser. It’s their game and their call to make.

  • djluke_1993

    Oh look Nintendo Censorship right there and to think. They said that nothing would be censored.

  • froyton

    Everything is subjective… I think the original skimpy outfits look fucking stupid myself. But I agree it was a stupid decision to take them out.

  • Domhnall

    For a lot of people, the issue is less the practicality and more the principle. If you say THIS is okay, it just makes Nintendo think it’s acceptable. And then next time, they change more. And then the next time, even more.

    The line has to be drawn, and the longer you wait, the further back you have to draw it. It’s precisely BECAUSE the change is insignificant that it has to be fought, else the precedent is set for bigger changes.

  • Kiryu

    They should have let the game as it was and everybody would be happy.Don’t like bikinis?Fine you don’t have to use it but don’t tell me what i should or should not like.

  • Problematic Prinny

    I’m honestly more concerned with the anatomy than less bikini. But it’s the precedent. No matter how big or small it should never be accepted.

  • OverlordZetta

    You know, while the Bravely Default ones felt like they didn’t do well and stemmed from the West’s not “getting” SD art, I’m not going to lie, the replacements don’t look awful. Redundant since they couldn’t do more than one apparently, but I wouldn’t mind that as a separate costume.

  • Longtooth

    This looks fake so I am not going to panic over it. It looks like somebody changed the main character to look like Lin and then put some stupid clothing on her so that they could claim it was censorship. Look at the legs, it gives it away.

  • Feniks

    Will there be a Asian version with English?

  • Lee Brocklebank

    So, are her proportions different in the EU version or is just a bad picture? I don’t really care about the bikini, I just hope the character doesn’t look fucking weird because of this arbitrary reason.

  • Mr. Snrub

    She looked more like an adult in the uncensored version! Jesus Christ, I’m not buy this shit now. I’ll stick to the core Nintendo titles that are shown respect and not butchered.

  • Kiryu

    You are absolutely right,and it’s my money they won’t get.

  • OverlordZetta

    Yes and no. International branches of a company suited to localization (or even development) aren’t quite the same thing. Given that Nintendo of Europe seems to have had different thoughts about this series when it wasn’t coming out in the US, and given how Europe and the US get different localizations even in games like Triforce Heroes, there’s definitely a difference.

    Sega’s a good example of it in action.

  • MusouTensei

    No Zero Suit Lin? Disappointed!

  • Go D. Usopp

    I didn’t tell you what you should or shouldn’t like. Nothing in my comment even comes close to passing for that. Merely an expression of my not caring

  • Mr. Snrub

    Really? Specifically on XCX? Maybe it’s a fake then?

  • Feniks

    No “she” is a fictional character in a videogame.

    Tumbler forgets but we shouldn’t.

  • Kiryu

    They also said they would bring back third partys and core gamers,Nintendo says alot of things.

  • kate bate mate

    …gotta protect those fictional polygons from people’s eyes.

  • Nagato

    Had to expect as much with 8-4 in charge of localization, and NoA/Treehouse above them. On note of the latter company, here are some examples of how they handled Triforce Heroes:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSTDndlUYAEKWjK.png

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSCTdt9UEAAM11w.png

    http://i.imgur.com/H5k5oW7.jpg

    And I assume everyone here still remembers Fatal Frame, of course, or the Fire Emblem Awakening dlc in the US (another NoA/8-4 joint). Can’t wait to see everything they’ll cut from and cover up in FE Fates as well…

  • MusouTensei

    I understand hat but all Nintendo will see is that people don’t want large JRPGs from them.

  • djluke_1993

    Actually Monolith Soft is the developer.

  • Kiryu

    Character looks like shit now and has weird proportions.Looks like some mutant from Fallout.

  • Kiryu

    And apparently you can’t make the difference between fiction and reality.

  • Vizi István

    That is true too. I never meant to imply they don’t have the right to even complain about this, but outright boycotting a potentially good game just sounds too much for me over something superficial like this.

    Not to mention the “vote with your wallet” mentality can send more messages to Nintendo than what people want to make that vote to signal. The majority here seems to want that vote to count against these sort of aesthetic changes, but for N, it may send the message that people in the West just aren’t interested in the game at all, and localizing Monolith games in the future just won’t going to worth it. Voting with your wallet is one thing, but that vote can have more, even unintended power over the game than some may like to believe.

  • djluke_1993

    There was a tweet from the localisers that said “nothing would be cesnored”

  • Brimfyre

    Just curious but do any of ya’ll go to Nintendo’s Facebook page or Twitter and let them know you aren’t happy. It’s always the first thing I do when I see these stories but I never see any one else putting in their two cents. They haven’t deleted my posts either. So instead of complaining on a site they will never read, go to them directly. I also post on their official forum page on their website. They even have to approve the messages before hand, and they did with my Fatal Frame censorship complaint.

  • Tyrannikos

    I see this argument a lot. It’s crap, man. If Nintendo misunderstands poor sales in an age where they can get on the internet and see why a game is selling poorly, but then say some shit like, “Oh, they just don’t want JRPGS!” then they’re retards.

    Don’t eat shit in hopes that you’ll get a better deal in the future. Chances are it’ll be more shit since they know they can sell it and you’ll bite.

  • Zerotsu

    Indeed. I’ll keep my hopes up.

  • Read the update. Character proportions haven’t been altered, it’s just an odd angle that makes her legs look shorter.

  • Barret Somerville

    fucking boycott not even happy; NoA can die in a fire.

  • kate bate mate

    I’m fairly okay with stuff like ‘adorbs’ and using casual language (the Europe translation seems a little stiff and mature for a kid’s game).

    Literal memes though…
    Like people posting pepes on work Facebook walls it’s just embarrassing.

  • Not really, people who don’t buy the game because of this will account for less than 0.01% of sales.

  • kate bate mate

    >Using Facebook
    But seriously you have a point. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t like to post about how much I love my hobbies on Facebook. With people from work and stuff on it. Facebook it really too professional for me to get involved there.

  • Tyrannikos

    I was so pissed about Fatal Frame that I actually wrote a physical letter. I live near NoA HQ, so this time I’m hand delivering a letter explaining why I’m selling my Wii U.

  • MusouTensei

    That’s disgusting and should be illegal, the original writers should have the right to sue whoever raped their script here.

  • kate bate mate

    Same. That would be the best outcome.

  • Kain Yusanagi

    As much as I can understand the people going “No censorship! Bad Nintendo!”… I actually LIKE this outfit change. It actually looks more practical for the situation. The bikini on the right she is wearing? That looks more fit for DoA Extreme Beach Volleyball (in fact I SWEAR I’ve seen one of them wearing that) or a game like Rumble Roses.

  • Tyrannikos

    This is what gets me as well. The outfit is look better and actually WOULDN’T shatter my immersion. This happens a lot with outfit censorship in games.

    I just fucking hate people deciding for me what I should and should not see.

  • MusouTensei

    Well thinking about how bad this game will sell regardless…

  • MusouTensei

    This is Nintendo we are talking about, they are deaf and blind, and only care about sales numbers.

  • kate bate mate

    They are optional costumes. (This is her main costume: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/xenoblade/images/6/63/Img_chara02-02.png/revision/latest?cb=20150115020342)

    I want to play the game the devs made, not the game the localization team wish they’d made.

  • Tyrannikos

    That isn’t really a good point that will make me want to support them.

    To be fair, you just described every large company. I have no reason to support any company with my money if I deem their product or practices to be anti-consumer in any way.

  • Don Tworry

    Hopefully, it is only a costume change. But Fatal Frame 5, which was supposedly just costumes, had an important flashback scene censored. It remains to be seen if the rest of the game is left untouched. It’s still too early discern but everyone should remain skeptical (Especially if it’s 8-4 doing the translation).

  • MusouTensei

    I don’t think that most people are upset about what got censored, but that something got censored in the 1st place.
    I don’t care if it’s violence, religious symbols or lewds, censorship is not acceptable and needs to be constantly and heavily criticised.

  • Brimfyre

    I don’t have anybody from work on Facebook. Even still, I keep it pretty light. I don’t say “Give me back sexy costumes Nintendo!” Just enough so Nintendo knows what I’m complaining about, and any friends and family who read it will just see that I’m bitching about something they don’t understand.

  • Kain Yusanagi

    Nintendo of America =/= Nintendo of Japan. Don’t make that mistake.

  • Derpy Kitty

    Buying anyway, because “a good game > boobs”

    Stop complaining and be happy we’re getting it in the first place…

  • Kiryu

    Have fun.

  • WB1c_Marathon

    Hate to say it, but anyone could see this coming a mile away. I think it’s time to sell my Wii U. I haven’t touched it in a year and every game that interests me gets hit with the censorship stick. I wouldn’t be so angry if they didn’t have the god damn region lock, but at this point it renders my Wii U totaly useless to me. I just wish SE would quit putting Dragon Quest on Nintendo systems so I could drop Nintendo with no regrets. Oh well not like those are coming anyway. This was fun to wake up and see.

  • Antoinant

    You sound desesperate to upvote yourself.

  • 22

    Monolift Studios is the developer.

    Even if Nintendo was I’m talking about the actual people. The developers aren’t the same people as the localisers.

  • 22

    Amiibos.

  • MusouTensei

    I don’t want to make you support them if you feel bad about supporting them, just saying that with this and Fatal Frame, it won’t matter much, such a boycott needs to happen with big games, like the next main Zelda.

  • 22

    It legitimately took me a minute to figure out what the fuck ‘adorbs’ was.

  • WB1c_Marathon

    I’m going for a job interview today because life is full of bills as an adult, I find it appropriate that today I am reminded that all the things I loved as a child have gone to shit.

  • Valwin Mediaz

    Here we go

  • Tyrannikos

    It’s not a matter of whether or not I will “feel bad.” This is where we have very different opinions. You believe we should only boycott certain games when censorship happens. I believe we should boycott every instance of censorship. EVERY instance of censorship is reprehensible in my book.

  • WB1c_Marathon

    I really don’t want to, besides the inevitable Zelda, that was the game I was super hyped for.

  • Mike Nieto

    You’ll start to see things other than costumes being censored in the future if you are OK by costumes being censored now. Is it that hard to understand¿

  • John Smith

    no buy

  • Tyrannikos

    Thank you Char for always fighting for what is right.

  • apple

    well i’m good without my children seeing that. and in what reality real or not is a bikini good Armour. you gotta remember Nintendo still has a large young demographic.

  • 2501

    I don’t give two shits about bikinis. As long as nothing significant gets cut or censored, l don’t care.

  • XxXGodXxX

    Fuck 8-4, fuck Nintendo, and fuck everyone who supports this. Those people don’t deserve to live.

  • Mike Nieto

    I’ll probably get the game used now, don’t want to miss on it but don’t feel like funding Nintendo’s behavior anymore.

  • Jack Ripper

    Goddamn Nintendo used to be retarded but now they’re just going full retard.

  • WB1c_Marathon

    That’s a reasonable idea, that’s what I was thinking in regards to games I really want, like if by a miracle of god we got DQ7. For myself I’m just gonna finish what games I have and probably sell my Wii U and maybe import a Japanese one if there’s something I can’t live without.

  • Vampok

    I did the same with Bravely Default. Just wait a week or 2 and there’ll be used copies for a bit cheaper anyways.

  • Didney Worl

    Hey, don’t be such a transphobe. Crossdressing Link is stunning and brave.

  • Maiq TheLiar

    Let’s admit, the new outfit does look markedly “cooler”, give that it has more ‘stuff’ and is much more detailed than a simple skinned-on bikini. At least have the new outfit as a separate one instead if ditching the developers’ original visions! Regardless, censorship is an awful, sales dampening practice that Nintendo just can’t seem to quit. This game wasn’t on my radar but I hope the voters will one day get through to Ninty.

  • Bananalint

    Nintendo is on a censoring spree. Now all that remains is Fire Emblem: Fates. Glad I stopped supporting this garbage company long ago.

  • Vizi István

    Nah, I understand it fine, except N hasn’t been doing censorship of any sort since yesterday: they did more back in the day than this, and they easily could have cut/change significant things about this game by now if they wanted, they were around long enough for that by now. So on a personal level this doesn’t even phase me in the slightest (especially when the new outfit looks better), and even if others aren’t fine with this sort of altering, boycotting the game and then not approaching N in a direct matter about this won’t amount to anything in particular. It’ll only make you lose out on a potentially good game, and N may not even know why the (already niche) game isn’t selling as much, so it pretty much amounts to a lose-lose situation. Obviously I can’t, and won’t tell people what they have to do or must do, but if people *really* want to confront this sort of censorship, at least do it in a way that N can notice without fail, like a few people already suggested.

  • Ryan Barrett

    Just in case you guys are wondering, there’s a chick in the treehouse who’s an openly anti-GG SJW. Just y’know, in case you’re wondering and curious why this keeps happening.

  • BladeRunner

    Not surprised in the least. I’m just waiting till we get closer to the release of the new Fire Emblem and Brandon starts posting articles about it being censored. Funny thing is, I know its coming but its still going to piss me off to no end.

  • chaoguy

    I agreed with everyone… Right up until you said she was 15.
    Yes, if it’s underage, I think you need to fix the clothes or change the age. (but not both). I know this’ll eventually lead to cutting stuff that is perfectly legal to be “progressive”, but this isn’t the place to fight against censorship IMO.

    Hell in Fatal Frame the graveur stuff was supposed to be creepy and unsettling due to that character’s dark past. It wasn’t for fan-service.

    However, what worries me is the proportion change. Is it sloppy modeling work, or are they making the character look even younger to shield themselves from criticism?

    NOA needs a kick up the ass for poor translations alone. Pic related.

  • Arenegeth

    This character really pisses me off, all child characters in JRPG’s really, she looks like I could break her with my little finger and she is supposed to be fighting huge alien beasts (with no super power explanation AFAIK). This shounen crap is my pet peeve with the genre these days. when are we gonna get more JRPG’s that are like Berserk or Vampire Hunter D god damn it!

    With that off my chest, censorship cannot be condoned whether I like the subject matter or not, since the original creators made the character this way, it should have remained this way in all versions of the game.

    It still doesn’t upset me as much as it does for Project Zero since I’d probably never see these bikinis in-game (not that I’d like to), I don’t like leaving my characters armorless, and I wouldn’t take this little *beep* with me unless the game forced me to, but that should be MY choice and not some (probably) progressive, puritan millennial in San Fran or whatever, deciding what is right or not for me, a freaking grown ass man (insert Key and Peele skit here) to consume.

    Like seriously, between the censorship and those awful Triforce Heroes US translations, and that arrogant ex-localizer that run his mouth on a podcast, until he got canned, Treehouse sounds like a purists worst nightmare since Working Designs, but at least they usually made things funny and not cringe inducing.

    I weep for Fire Emblem fans, Fates will get eviscerated in its localization.

    I do hope the localization mess ups stop with this character and her choice of underwear, I swear if I ever see a hint of a dodge meme in XCX I’ll go mental.

  • Figuratively Shaking

    If your entire problem with something is solved by changing a number in a fictional character’s bio then I don’t think you have a real problem.

    “I know this’ll eventually lead to cutting stuff that is perfectly legal
    to be “progressive”, but this isn’t the place to fight against
    censorship IMO.”

    You mean this exact situation? What law do you think this is breaking?

  • NuclearCherries

    Consider me picking this up used then.
    Fuck you Nintendo of America.

    Though in all seriousness, I don’t trust the source. The legs are definitely shorter, which seems like someone has made their own character in the game and slapped whatever gear on them, and cried censorship.
    Still, the costume will be censored. Just not to this silly extent where it looks too differ- ah who am I kidding. This is NoA. They replaced Bikinis with Zero Suits and Zelda’s Dress.
    Still though. I need more proof than two images. Blame my skeptical nature.

  • I’m pretty much done with Nintendo at this point. Not that I even play my N3DS much anymore anyway. It’s like they’re fucking trying to piss off all the fans. It’s like they forgot the majority of their fanbase is over 18 years old. For fuck’s sake.

    If it goes the way I want, the last Nintendo-related anything I’ll ever buy again is when they localize Monster Hunter X. And by god if they somehow manage to censore some of the sexier armors in that, I’m gonna fucking explode.

  • Michael Richardson

    Why do her legs look so much shorter?

  • John Tesh

    I don’t get what the fuss is about. Making it so that people can’t put a 15 year old RPG character in a bikini doesn’t sound unreasonable at all.

    If people want to run around in bikinis there’s always PC mods.

  • CirnoTheStrongest

    It’s not on the PC . . .

  • CirnoTheStrongest

    I don’t know if it’s just the screen, but that model looks absolutely borked

  • BaronKrause

    I don’t know about you, but I have a backlog enough to fill 5 lifetimes of game play, I don’t need to waste time with a censored game.

  • TheDVI

    Nintendo is only doing this to avoid controversy and thus threats to their sales. Its not really much of a moral outrage.

  • Sarracenia

    You can see the comparison photos as well as I can, and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen younger girls wearing less at the beaches in my city.
    “You just want it because you’re a dirty pedo” is a pretty weak argument, by the way.

    What I want, is to see the characters as they were designed. We don’t know anything about this game, but imagine if it’s similar to the recent censorship in FF:MBW where they “only changed a costume”, but that changed the feeling of the scene it was in, where the character felt like a worthless piece of meat because of her job, and how she knew that men only wanted her for her body, but after the change the entire scene just felt totally out of place.

    As much as it’s a slippery slope argument, the more we allow them to censor whatever they want, the less they’ll see wrong with it. I’d rather take no part in this joke and instead just stop paying NoA for anything.

  • BaronKrause

    I think you tripped and accidentally fell into the wrong site.

  • Bananalint

    Just wait till the Wii U emulator comes out. Then we can have it uncensored.

  • Bananalint

    Of course. Nintendo wants to be seen as a company for children.

  • Sarracenia

    Not gonna lie, I actually like Amiibo, because they’re cheapish, decentish quality figs. I might have like 8 of them….

  • Vizi István

    If that backlog happens to have games from the ’90s, chances are there is at least one censored game in it, especially if it’s a game on a Nintendo platform.

  • Kamen Rider Mike

    Do any of you read the news completely and the editor’s note? Because this might not be the same soo awaiting the release of it and see how it turns out.

  • shu24

    Oh boy, can’t wait to patch this game on my emulator 5-15 years from now.

  • BaronKrause

    Just because games like Totally Rad existed in the past (which actually made a pretty lame Japanese game at least funny) doesn’t mean we should accept this now.

    If it sends them the wrong message because they’re too stupid to realize that the internet exists (which might be, many Japanese developers still think PC gaming is for people who can’t afford a console) then so be it, they can keep them. I’ll invest my time and money with people who aren’t idiots.

  • Bananalint

    Yeah I highly doubt it will be anywhere near that long lol. If you look on their website, a lot of games are already playable.
    http://www.zeplin-emu.com/zeplin-wii-u-emulator-4-beta/

  • BaronKrause

    I haven’t read one comment that mentioned anything about height.

  • shu24

    This costume change is from the EU version, though.
    But it’s probably in the NA version too.

  • Offendatron_5000

    If this is true, I will GLADLY accept that I was once again wrong on the internet and remake my preorder.

  • H.S

    Yeah, I’d like to see it from another source as well. Those legs just look way too weird compared to the rest of the body.

  • Daniel Segovia

    What I’m planning to do is to keep learning japanese and import the console and its games.

  • Derek

    Of course. Nichegamer defends panty quests, fanservice all in the name of fightig sjws

  • Nintendo stupidity never stops. Do they really think a 6 years old kid’s gonna play such complex game? Not buying, though my decision was already made way before that. In my opinion, it’s not a rpg anymore, but an exploration game. When you know the whole story is just 12 missions, well… I sadly don’t have time to spend exploring places that won’t even change history…

  • TheDVI

    Its not for the children. Its because they’re afraid of being called pedophiles.

  • Zerotsu

    I sent a twitter thing, but I doubt it’ll be seen because I have no idea how twitter works.

  • Kain Yusanagi

    Which is why I said that I can understand those people criticizing Nintendo for making the change without making it optional (even if this was the default for NA, and the other something you had to opt into).

  • Kain Yusanagi

    Really? In that case yeah, it’s an optional costume not the default then this is needless censorship. (I’d rather have both costumes over either one, though)

  • Kain Yusanagi

    Completely agreed.

  • tamlin69

    Their entire history in the videogame industry has shown that they want to be 4kids.

  • John Tesh

    Nobody said it was.

  • tamlin69

    When Nintendo releases games uncensored, that’s the aberration. Censorship has always been their jam.

    It’s annoying when games like Bayonetta 2 are Ninty exclusives, because that’s a bad system for her to be on.

    There were a few years where it seemed they were loosening up, but usually that’s just them getting scared of being slaughtered by their competitors. The minute they get comfortable, it’s back to censorship again.

    Incidentally, it isn’t just Xenoblade and Fatal Frame. I can go back multiple years and find multiple incidents.

    It’s a pattern.

    If you love Nintendo games and you aren’t a little kid, just make sure they aren’t your only or your primary console.

  • Firion Hope

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSkg68fWUAAJYGf.png

    People really need to grow a spine and stop kissing the ground localizers walk on. They have a job and if they don’t do that job right they deserve shit. There’s no way ESRB made them do this, they did it on a whim because they know they can get away with it.

    I’m still hoping this is fake but I have zero faith in nintendo of america, and I’m just about to swear them off for good.

  • Sebastian Mikulec

    Nintendo – Making sure I never buy a piece of hardware from them ever gain, one facepalm moment at a time.

  • chocodino

    I couldn’t care less

  • Shippoyasha

    She looks like a midget.

    And can’t they have something like DLC options for nations that aren’t so paranoid about teenaged style characters in bikini?

    All this censorship makes it look more risqué than it really is.

    Also, I can’t make the judgment call for anyone else, but I cannot support these games when they do this.

  • Shippoyasha

    Buckle up, buckaroo!

  • doobie

    Make her “18” and keep the bikini. Everyone wins, right?

  • Shippoyasha

    That could work, though it is a shame gaming has to bend so much backwards for excessive societal fears and excessive laws some western nations have.

  • doobie

    Yeah, but that way the game just gets released pretty much as is with only a numerical change. I like the costume, I don’t care if she’s supposed to be 13 or 43 while she’s in it, and if it keeps dorks from ‘thinking of the children’ than great, let’s just do that.

  • NeoTechni

    They don’t get to decide what’s significant to us though, since they’ve already decided wrongly

  • Ah, welcome back oldschool Nintendo. Glad to see Howard Lincoln’s censorious spirit has reignited your passion for being prudes.

  • TheDVI

    Bingo images are the lowest form of argument. Listing off common arguments doesn’t refute them in any way.

    I don’t really care that much about this whole fiasco, I dislike self-censorship but I’m not totally outraged about it. I just fucking hate argumentation bingo.

  • Mike Nieto

    I’ve been discussing this with people on Twitter and other media all day and fail to see an intelligent argument in favor of this. In fact, most just end up calling the ones against censorship “creepy pedophiles” or whatever.

    Mankind is nearing a second dark ages like the christian one in medieval times.

  • Richard Miller

    If that is what it takes then so be it.

  • Firion Hope

    Not meant to be an argument, I just thought it was funny and illustrates how apologetic and excuse-giving people get every single time this happens.

  • snugdarkly

    You shouldn’t have been supporting Nintendo to begin with.

  • snugdarkly

    Sounds like their own damn fault. If they’re incapable of treating their consumers like adults then as far as I’m concerned the entire company is dead to me.

  • Richard Miller

    These news stories continue to remind me why I don’t support Nintendo anymore.

  • snugdarkly

    You’ve seen the light. Honestly Nintendo has always been like this.

  • TheDVI

    Why were you expecting intelligent arguments on Twitter?

  • blooblard

    1. They did not change proportions here is the an image recreated in the same conditions in the Japanese version. http://i.imgur.com/H1nKpcV.jpg?1

    2. They did not edit the costume they edited lin’s base model to add a breast plate. If you look closely the bikini goes over the top of it.

    3. She is 13 years old

  • snugdarkly

    It’s Nintendo. Anyone who didn’t see this coming must be living under a rock. Fuck Nintendo.

  • snugdarkly

    I’d like to see Nintendo dead.

  • Didney Worl

    My hero…

  • TheCynicalReaper

    OH HERE WE GO AGAIN! First Fatal Frame and now Xenoblade.
    And now all incentive to buy a WiiU is gone.

    I feel bad for the people who bought a WiiU. I mean, Sony is utter trash, like all these companies, but at least the JRPGs we get on PS4 and Vita aren’t censored (unless it’s from NISA or some other niche jerk publisher who aspires to be NoA+).

  • TheCynicalReaper

    Brutal but well said. They aren’t our friends and we aren’t children with infinite supplies of finances. We cannot possibly permit ourselves to put up with this garbage.

  • snugdarkly

    Seeing your name just reminds me that I wanted to be snugcynic. Shame that was taken. But yeah I saw this coming from a hundred light-years away. Nintendo has a long history of being the kiddie friendly company.

  • TheDVI

    Remember the Fire Emblem DLC?

  • snugdarkly

    >censorship has always been their jam

    Yeah we’re better off not supporting Nintendo at all.

  • Pico

    What could be so bad about neogaf?… opens link. Those comments

  • snugdarkly

    Sounds like you just shouldn’t play Japanese games. Personally I like the idea of a little girl kicking a monster’s ass. You on the other hand want a big strong man to beat up the big strong monster–which is also fine. Honestly if you want realism women aren’t well suited to combat anyway.

    But I agree with you regarding censorship.

  • snugdarkly

    Nintendo actually used to be worse. It’s about time they came back to their roots.

  • snugdarkly

    And people like this are exactly why companies can get away with censorship.

  • benzene

    Well, there goes my last fuck given to Nintendo.

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    As the Inklings rioted through the streets, tagging buildings to claim as their own, I a sleuth of 42 was enjoying a nice cold glass of [REDACTED] (replace with Apple Juice) when suddenly a fresh Idaho faced dame of obvious Idaho descent walks in, she had legs that went on for inches and the demeanor of a 13 yr old which made me question if she was lying about her age of 15….

    1)The fuck happened to her legs?!!
    2)Why are you replacing a swimsuit with one that has metal all over it,
    it’s like you want her to get Tetanus.
    3)Jokes on them, such clothing is more lewd to me.

  • RetroGamer

    Very similar to my thoughts. I’ve had the game pre-ordered for a while and will still get it so long as everything else remains intact. If any story/gameplay is removed, then I’m out.

  • ironexe

    There are alot of good games out there. If I miss out on one because I don’t like censorship I lose out on alot less than the company who’s game I’m not buying.

    Actually, I miss out on nothing, I can always watch a Let’s Play.

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    Next time in NoA!
    The Fire Emblem crowd will get stomped on while they’re down if their prayers aren’t answered by NoJ intervening.
    What may come of LoZ WiiU?!

  • Eggard Snark

    that’s their problem to figure out, don’t enable them.

  • TheDVI

    All you guys screaming boycott, this shit will keep happening unless you take active steps to make your voice heard. At the very least, write an email or letter to the company so they know that they lost a sale.

    My suggestion would be to form some sorta gamers against censorship website, which can act as a hub for various different boycotts to unify and ally with each-other. Have it post news about censorship in games so people can keep track, and have some sorta tally which keeps track of how many users are boycotting games. Does this sound like a decent idea, or is it just shit?

  • Eggard Snark

    Don’t purchase.

    It’s strategic marketing.

    If Nintendo is smart they will query their customers and solve the problem.

    If Nintendo is not smart they won’t.

    That’s their problem and no amount of enabling and making excuses for them will solve it.

  • ironexe

    This was also what was making me look at a WiiU seriously as well.

  • BurntToShreds

    Who the hell do they think is buying this game? From my understanding, Xenoblade’s fans are an especially devoted niche group of people that wouldn’t be bothered by fictional polygonal teenagers in bikinis, not God-fearing overbearing soccer-moms that think boobs are the devil.

  • Let’s call the party van then, because i suppose there are tons of editors waiting to be arrested. LOL.

  • zubaaaan

    Joining this club.

  • TheDVI

    My bet is so that they could prevent Polygon and its ilk from deducting points because it made them uncomfortable.

  • BurntToShreds

    Bayonetta 2 is sitting pretty at 91 on Metacritic despite Arthur Gies’ half-assed review. I’m pretty sure that X would have done fine.

  • Peter Popper

    Yeah, but odds are also if it’s a censored game from the 90s there’s an uncensor patch or, depending on the translation, a full blown retranslation patch.

  • Fient

    No sale
    Pirate day 1 as soon as wiiu emulation or piracy reaches that level

  • Fient

    BASED

    Censorship this dumb deserves a no sale

  • Fient

    Tweet them saying you’re not getting the game over the censorship, message sent, problem solved

  • Vizi István

    You know, I could spin the LP argument into a direction where I’d be wondering why you’d watch an LP of a censored game in the first place, but in the end, I still think missing out on a potentially good game just because of an insubstantial change is a lose situation either way, even for the developers themselves. I assume Monolith made this game with the intention to be played and enjoyed by as much people as possible (aside of obvious money-related reasons), so from a developer standpoint, it feels like this sort of approach is a gut-punch to those who worked on the game, even more so when attempt isn’t even made to directly contact Nintendo over this when it’s completely possible. Yes, I still get why people are upset over this, but as much as I understand the principle of the complaints, missing out entirely on a game just because of a costume alteration is an ass-backwards way of doing things when there are options where the game can be played *and* N can get the message at the same time.

  • Offendatron_5000

    Hold the phone on going that far. It’s not like this content doesn’t exist on a Nintendo system at all. The issue is the puritanical and out of touch leadership at NOA. They need to be slapped around or outright fired at this point. This type of stuff, where one region does what they want has the stink of SEGA all over it.

  • ironexe

    I didn’t say I would, I said I COULD. I probably won’t. Unless it’s a let’s play of the original game and the let’s player is translating the dialogue.

    Where are you getting this assumption that nobody is contacting Nintendo about this? I’ve seen ALOT of people telling Nintendo EXACTLY why they aren’t going to buy it. I myself was just about to contact them to tell them I wouldn’t be buying it and why.

  • Fient

    This is what it takes to send a message to NOA to start respecting its customers and stop censoring the games.
    They’re not our mom, our nanny or our morals supervisor so stop ruining the games japan makes.

  • Vizi István

    But XCX (so far) doesn’t even have alteration to the level a patch would be needed for a full enjoyment. I seriously doubt a single piece of altered costume (that IMO actually looks better now) affects the game so much that the entire game’s value is taking a hit because of it. That’s why I brought up ’90s games, those could have the sort of changes where a game could be substantially different, more different than what XCX is having right now. I’m still not saying people cannot complain about this, but boycotting *and* not telling N about these complaints directly feels kind of an overreaction over something insignificant.

  • Bananalint

    I don’t think we will have to wait long as Cemu has updates every two weeks I think.

  • Vizi István

    “Where are you getting this assumption that nobody is contacting Nintendo
    about this? I’ve seen ALOT of people telling Nintendo EXACTLY why they
    aren’t going to buy it.”

    Bit of an unintended generalization on my end I admit, but it *is* coming from the impression that simply saying “vote with your wallet” and then doing nothing to notify the affected party about the complaint (and then pirating/LP-watching the censored game all the same when it isn’t even suffering noticeable censoring in this case in scope of the overall game) is the laziest and more frequent way of doing these sort of things. Respect towards the exception of course.

  • Fient

    Real talk moment here, is it time we come to discuss the problem that is NOA? And to some degree, NOE too of course.
    Nintendo does great games, they do a good job all around, and then their tiny, pathetic and annoying western branches come in and butcher their games and give whatever remains to the fans.

    That’s not a good way to treat their fans and it is time Nintendo realizes that people are tired of it.

    Nintendo is the boss of NOA/NOE.
    If a worker is doing a terrible job you bring it to the supervisor.

  • sanic

    I wish they tried to make a cool outfit at least if they had to do this, that looks like crap.

  • Kiryu

    They are completely out of touch with gamers,no wonder the Wii U flops even worse then the Vita.

  • Kiryu

    Fuck Polygon.

  • The second one is a big sportsbra thing that still has a bikini top over it.
    What?

  • Kiryu

    Remember the dlc apologists?You don’t have to buy if you don’t want dlc.Now look at the mess it created.

  • Go D. Usopp

    Given that the majority of those are valid points or merely down to personal judgment it comes off as quite petty and defensive. Though petty and defensive is what I expect in these circumstances

  • TheCynicalReaper

    “snugdarkly” has an adorable yet foreboding quality to it. It’s better.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    Nicely done, mate.
    Nicely done.

  • Tsundere Vader


    The legal status of cartoon pornography depicting minors varies from country to country and concerns simulated pornography and child pornography.Some analysts have argued whether such cartoon depiction is a “victimless crime”. Laws have been enacted to criminalize “obscene images of children, no matter how they are made”, for inciting abuse. An argument is the claim that obscene fictional images portray children as sex objects, thereby contributing to child sexual abuse. This argument has been disputed by the fact that there is no scientific basis for that connection, and that restricting sexual expression in drawings or animated games and videos might actually increase the rate of sexual crime by eliminating an outlet for desires that could motivate crime.Currently, countries that have made it illegal to possess (as well as create and distribute) sexual images of fictional characters who are described as or appear to be under eighteen years old include Canada, South Africa, South Korea, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the Philippines. At the upper edge, this encapsulates pornographic depictions of even seventeen-year-olds together, or adults where the predominant impression conveyed is of a person under the age of 18 (such as small-breasted women).” http://dbpedia.org/page/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m completely against this sort of censorship as well, but with Nintendo being a company and all, they’d probably never risk someone going completely ballistic over the costumes, especially in countries such as these.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    They censored the ages to 18, though, apparently so that doesn’t apply.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    No, the lowest form of argument is not actually having an argument, which are all the defenses listed in that image.

    Just like those listed in this image:

  • TheCynicalReaper

    Man, this makes me feel silly for being mad at them for this. I mean, it’s like being angry at a public serial killer who’s just killed his 80th victim, and only now do I say “Hey! You! Quit killing!”

  • Fenrir007

    And all we will see is an undub iso down the road.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    Fucking NeoGAF…

  • Koroma

    death to censorship

  • Doesn’t hurt to remind the guy once in a while

    ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • Mr. Snrub

    Maybe America will get lucky. I doubt it, but there’s hope I guess.

  • ignacio falcato

    I have to admit that I don’t see the issue. Yeah, censorship is bullocks, but let’s put something in position: Sex is a great taboo in USA, specially underage sexual themes. Yeah, you can critizise that USA is a country of freedom, yadda yadda yadda, but Nintendo is not only a family buissness, but a mayor enterpise, that needs not to screw with cultural codes. You most may say you won’t buy Nintendo products (which I think is an overreaction), but I think Nintendo would prefer loose some people in cause of avoiding a scandal.
    Also, is just an outfit, is not that the impact or the story is going to be changed. Take the case of Until Dawn in Japan, where the excecutions are completly blacked out because the wanted to sel to younger audiences (which is not a great impact, but changes the experience a lot, being an interactive movie). Is like the fatal frame underwear scandal, which in retribution NoA gave the Samus zero suite and Princess Zelda outfits, which I think are a lot better (I was never onto the underwear in fatal frame)

  • Tsundere Vader

    “or adults where the predominant impression conveyed is of a person under the age of 18 (such as small-breasted women).” Unless Nintendo feels ballsy and wants to risk the chance of someone in one of these countries having the impression these characters are under 18, then they can go right ahead and do so, but everyone who has followed the Fatal Frame story can probably already tell you, they aren’t willing to.

    Yeah it’s stupid as shit, and honestly I think some people should be going after these laws, as these laws seem to only be based off of speculation that it contributes to child sexual abuse, and not by research and studying. But until these laws are repealed, Nintendo is just going to keep censoring them.

  • Bananalint

    Doesn’t matter. A lot of people like having games in their original form regardless how small the censorship seems. I highly doubt there would be a huge scandal either. Nintendo needs to grow up. Unfortunately they never will…

  • ignacio falcato

    I bluntly disagree. Yes, most nintendo followers are over 18, but the game is an ESRB T game. Even if it was M or even AO, this could be intepretated as pedophilia ofr every wannabe moral activist, and create a scandal that could punch really low to nintendo. You only think of your own case and not the reality that implies that USA (main consumer of NoA) has some issues with sex, specially with underage people, being human or not.
    Nintendo is not treating nobody as a retarded, they just take precautions.

  • WB1c_Marathon

    This hurts me, because no matter what shit gets pulled in the western release I can always import the real thing with my Vita, yet it’s the dying handheld.

  • Tsundere Vader

    Console hardware being shit and under powered?

  • ignacio falcato

    You are telling me, that changing a swimsuite from an apparent 13 year old girl (Ok, is not a human, but yet is resemblant) is “not growing up”?
    I would see valid the case if they decided to avoid same gender relationships or even censoring kisses, things that really changes the gamer experience. This, for me, that I like original visions, are on a admisible change, like it happened on bravely default.
    Also, you underestimate the hunger of the mass media or some people for this type of scandal, specially on videogames. Just look the hot coffe scandal (that it wasn’t even on the final cut, just code lurking arround, and didn’t had any explicit content) and any resemblance of pedophilia or underage sex would be a BIG NONO.
    I understand, people like to have things their way, but yet, this is not a matter of “growing up”, is a matter that moral codes are different on every part of the planet, and any brand with influence have to be really careful not to mess arround with it. Or you are telling me that a 13 year old could use a swimsuite showing underboob without being aprehended? Geez, man are fined if they use a trikini on a Beach, or woman for slipping a nipple! Yet, showing graphic violence is OK, while in japan, is a BIG NONO to teenagers. Moral codes, people (which I don’t like either, yet they are there)

  • Bananalint

    Hot coffee was porn, this is FAR from that lmao. Yes Nintendo needs to grow up and stop constantly cater towards children. The only people that would make a big stink about it would be SJWs and the like. No one else would care.

  • Firion Hope

    But there have been plenty of things like this released and they’ve been fine. Hell imouto paradise got a physical release. And it’s just a bikini, not enough to be pornography.

  • Firion Hope

    Yeah and I expect people making up any excuse as to why it’s okay despite it being completely fucking pointless, and also hypocritical if there ever is censorship that bothers them.

  • Firion Hope

    Exactly, great point.

  • Trepie

    Link will crossdress some more. NoA will put more dank memes into the localization.

  • SiliconNooB

    I was already on the fence about Xenoblade X due to Monolith’s decision to structure it like a Monster Hunter type game. This censorship just makes my decision really easy – I’m not going to support practices that I find deleterious to the video game industry.

    I’m not doing this to punish Nintendo or Monolith – but I am not going to support bad precedents.

  • SiliconNooB

    That’s on them.

  • SiliconNooB

    Well said. This isn’t about punishing Nintendo – it is about not being part of the problem!

  • TiamatNM

    No bikini unless you are over 18! That’s the rules!!!! Thats why Senran Kagura Burst was rated AO

  • SiliconNooB

    This isn’t cartoon pornography – it is a fifteen year old girl in a bikini.

  • ignacio falcato

    In hot coffe, there was not explicit penetration, so it wasn’t porn. They weren’t even naked, and CJ even hadn’t a dick, so is not even erotic, only suggestive (but strongly suggestive). This, in the other hand, showing sideboob, underboob, asscrack, groin, nipple or whatever, could be erotic for some, and suggestive for some. The thing is, as Sharla in the first XC had some suggestive outfits, it was portrayed as a grown up woman, while this is not only under 21, is under 18, anf I repeat, is not Nintendo’s fault, but the moral code NoA has to follow because USA.
    And is not a matter of the scandal per se, but how investors could react. A scandal is a way to make an enterpise to loose money on media and in stocks.

    And, tell me, how should nintendo “grow up”? I understand that people has needs and have their likes, yet, if I have to be realistic, I don’t play games like this because provocative characters, but because story, gameplay, narration and a ton of factors more. Provocative characters, in my perspective, is a tactic game developers use to attract teen and pre adults, and not adult people per se (despite it hook some too). Not defending Nintendo per se, but with the same case, tell me a case that any game on a console rated T with an underage “nonhuman” girl in swimsuite showing underboob are in the recent years. If not, then is not a Nintendo problem, but an industry issue with your logic.

  • FailedSurgery

    The shorts look really awkward. They should be worn higher, unless what they wanted to go for was a girl with stubby looking legs

  • Bananalint

    Ever hear of softcore porn? Like I said there would be only a small amount of people that would make a fuss about these outfits. Regardless of the USA moral code, games are still being released uncensored. Look at Mirai from Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus. She looks clearly underage however you can dress her up in thong bikinis. Don’t even get me started with Bon Appetite which again was uncensored. Was it a big deal? No it wasn’t. A small group of people was offended and this it. As I said before Nintendo needs to grow up, stop caring about what some people think and treat their fans like adults who can make their own decisions.

  • ignacio falcato

    Is not that the bikini is wrong, but that is underage. Why is so hard to understand that Nintendo is doing this just to avoid possible issues, specially on a big title like this? Senren Sakura wasn’t first party, so is not nintendo’s concern.
    Is not that I agree or not, yet most put it like this is day and night, and in my perspective, is an overreaction. When somebody tells me that the cut of part of the story, like it happened on persona 4 on USA, then I would agree.

    PS: using socratic irony defending sexualised underage people in bikinis just doesn’t fit.

  • FailedSurgery

    I’m just offended how awkward the shorts look. They should be worn higher like in the picture, unless what they wanted to go for was a girl with stubby looking legs

  • Audie Bakerson

    3 major titles censored right next to eachother? This isn’t a coincidence, something has gone horribly wrong in the happy go lucky world of Nintendo.

  • Audie Bakerson

    Funny how the people who say “cultural difference” are the same who will complain about “cultural imperialism”.

  • TiamatNM

    Why not? Underage girls aren’t allowed to wear bikinis? Why is it so hard to understand that Nintendo could have just released it without censorship if they didn’t suck?

  • Tyrannikos

    That bingo card was made for NeoGAF, wasn’t it? It screams NeoGAF.

  • Zombie_Barioth

    You do know how the carrot & stick method of discipline works, don’t you? To reinforce good behavior you have to actually reward it, not just punish mistakes.

    For a company that means buying what you approve of and not what you don’t. Be vocal about it. They’ll either follow the numbers and criticism and swim or fail to and sink.

  • Esuna

    Pointless Censorship? No buy.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    Fair enough and very true, and yet XSEED manages to accomplish this with Senran Kagura. Maybe the very stylized anime aesthetics help? No wait, there’s a couple very clearly young girls despite their ages being taken out of the game (the only source of censorship in it).

    Why can XSEED do it but Nintendo can’t? Or I guess that fits with the fact that Nintendo doesn’t want to follow it through. Funny as this character here is clearly older than SK’s Mirai.

  • ignacio falcato

    Softcore needs to be at least erotic, not sugestive, and also requires genitalia to be exposed, which is not the case, but this is only a legal matter, not that I matter for a swimsiut or not (which I dont care if it is one way or another).
    What you don’t see, is that Senran kagura burst is not first party (and is kinda niche), and that’s why they allowed it. Yet, this is a mayor launch from Nintendo, which is not a great moment, and is a mayor focus for the media for any mistake to make it viral for it’s benefit, and make Nintendo stock values plumet.
    I repeat, is not “protecting” childs, is clear that is only a preventive measure to avoid any conflict and make everything smooth. Because, in and year or two, I bet you that nobody will say “Nintendo screwed so bad with the missing swimsuit on Xenoblade Chronicles X”, because if nobody posted this, probably nobody would notice.
    And their fans are not limited to adults who can make desitions which game to buy, and that is the whole gaming reality, not only nintendo’s. For example, Until Dawn censorwhip on Japan was ridiculos to lower the ZERO rating, ot the fatalitys on Mortal Kombat vs DC. Companies make desitions to avoid any type of conflict possible.
    You may repeat that they “treat you like a child”, yet is only a limited vision of what you think, and not a general panorama. Is more complex than that, they have investors to protect and morals to follow just to sell more getting to more audience with a T rating (which is arguable, because Bayonetta 2 did well, but nintendo seems that want to make more than 1 million copies, that´s for shure)

  • Kiryu

    Thank goodness Sony doesnt regionlock their consoles.

  • Bananalint

    Unless you have proof that this would actually hurt thier image or whatever, you are just blindly defending Nintendo. This conversation has gone stale.

  • Thanatos2k

    When this came up months ago, people were sure the costumes were going to get censored, and predictably they did.

    http://nichegamer.com/2015/04/xenoblade-chronicles-x-stream-reveals-cute-loli-triggers-outrage/

    Why is anyone surprised? Underage looking stuff does. not. fly. Period.

    And I’m going to happily buy it anyways, because I don’t care about this specific kind of censorship.

  • ignacio falcato

    Because US moral codes doesn’t like to sexualise a 13 (or 15 in this case) year “nonhuman” girl. This is not only a swimsiute, one of the outfits shows underboob even, and if I recall, even for a grown up on public that would be exibitionism. In a game, sexualising an adult wouldn’t be an issue, but and underage “nonhuman” girl could be an issue (because, you know, pedophilia is more taboo than gutting people in the US). The reality is that underage girls are sexualised, yet everyone turns the blind eye in the US. In Japan, though, is a different story.
    I don’t bat an eye about it, because I don’t care for an outfit (would like the reason others could bat, aside to wank off), yet making a no go, seems too much.

  • Thanatos2k

    It’s all based on risk. Either company could get called out on it by the authorities of whoever. XSeed is willing to risk it, Nintendo is not.

  • Thanatos2k

    It’s not a bad argument though, because it’s exactly what happens.

    “in an age where they can get on the internet and see why a game is selling poorly”

    Nintendo is the most internet averse old fashioned company in video games, you’re giving them FAR too much credit here. Do you imagine Nintendo project managers trolling forums?

  • Thanatos2k

    Remember people, if you boycott every company that censors products, you shouldn’t be buying a single video game ever again.

  • Thanatos2k

    Asisine digital distribution policies.

  • Thanatos2k

    They’re DLC. PHYSICAL DLC.

  • Tsundere Vader

    “XSEED does what Nintendon’t!”

  • WB1c_Marathon

    Implying I can’t import games from Japan.

  • Thanatos2k

    http://www.gamespot.com/articles/goldeneye-007-originally-more-violent-miyamoto-sug/1100-6431708/

    You really just got to wonder what if they had listened to Miyamoto and ruined their game? Would we have considered it the classic that it was?

  • Tsundere Vader

    That isn’t going to stop people from complaining that the bikini is there for sexualization.

  • Thanatos2k

    Mature reaction right here folks.

  • Thanatos2k

    “we have had proof that they didn’t even consult them and in fact could have gotten away with what was done.”

    You have no proof whatsoever that you know they could have gotten away with it.

    “you rarely see Xseed get this hate despite some minor censorship because they are honest and upfront about it”

    No, you rarely see it because censorship nutjobs are hypocrites when it comes to XSeed because XSeed takes anti-censorship positions on most things *even while censoring their own games regardless.* I love XSeed too, but if you’re swearing “Boycott Nintendo, they censored a thing!” XSeed should be on your list too.

  • WB1c_Marathon

    I’ll give you that first point as I was typing faster than processing, and probably just read that second hand somewhere, but on your second point one could argue that that’s your opinion in regards to those who like Xseed, in fact labeling them nutjobs is counter productive.

    In regards to my “list”, I never stated my reason for boycotting Nintendo. I was talking about reasons to be frustrated with the situation. The reason I boycott Nintendo is because of region locking. It denies consumers access to the product they want and makes the annoyance of censorship that much worse. I’m sure you can see how Xseed is not even in the same class in that regard. They’re just the publisher, if I don’t like their work I can import the Japanese version. Nintendo not only censors their works, but denies the consumer the option to get the uncensored version by locking down their console.

  • Figuratively Shaking

    “if you boycott every company that has censored a product”
    Nice strawman.

    Point to a single person that has said “Do not buy anything from anyone who has ever censored anything.”

    People don’t like this censorship and don’t want to see it continue. Give one reason why such a person should still buy this game.

  • snugdarkly

    How did I know you’d be the one supporting censorship?

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    EVERYONE JUST SHUT UP AND LISTEN: You’re all a bunch of horny perverts. Regardless of the fact they’re a fictional character, Saying you don’t want the game because of this censoring, Implies you want to game to look at A 15 YEAR OLD IN A FUCKING BIKINI. That’s messed up. Is it really that big of a deal? Is it really to ruin the game? Do you sit there playing every game thinking “Oh wow I wish she would get them out”? Do you play super mario and get dissappointed you don’t see peach wearing a frickin bikini showing 99% of the goods off? If Nintendo released this game in any region outside of Japan without the censorship, it would either get 18 rating, or just not be allowed. I mean, even though they look older, the game is claiming that it’s normal for a 15 year old girld to be wearing that little clothes for everyone to see. That would get banned instantly. So, Take your pick: Play the game, or don’t play the game but have one low res picture to get your mangled up motor running

  • snugdarkly

    It’s Nintendo. They’ve been censorship happy since the very beginning. You can try saving them if you want, but I know a lost cause when I see one.

  • snugdarkly

    Yes I do. I do want to look at a cute fictional character in a bikini.

  • snugdarkly

    And how the hell would that get banned anyway? Have you ever watched a fanservice anime?

  • ignacio falcato

    Tell me how many 15 year olds showing underboobs you see in gaming in the US and mass media (except satires). Tell me why Janet Jackspon had to apology for less than 1 second of nipple on TV. Tell me why was a scandal that subtle nudity un PG-13 films where an alarm for parents. Is so taboo that anyone will avoid the issue.

    You are wanting this to be an Nintendo problem, but is not. Is an US idiosyncrasy issue, that Nintendo will follow to their own benetfits (obviously, they aren’t saints, all is for the money), despite the rage they could get from “die hard” fans, all to avoid any clash. For me is blantly obvious.

    Yet, I have the impression that you will deny all that. This is just Nintendo being mean to adults, because, you know, they love to be hated.

  • snugdarkly

    Not really. This is actually pretty normal for Nintendo. Did you know the pokemon games are censored too? Probably not, but honestly Nintendo is known as the company for the kids for a good reason.

  • snugdarkly

    There are no nipples, and underboob is nothing. Your average fanservice anime is far worse.

  • Firion Hope

    Not sure, wouldn’t surprise me though.

  • ignacio falcato

    Then tell me why is so taboo! Why 15 year girs are wearing a swimsuit like that on the streets. Nintendo is only making this to cover up their ass and not “for children protection”, that is blantly obvious. I’m ok with it, because I don’t think it will change anything (Never understood why women characters in JRPG are sometimes so sexualised) and not stripping gameplay, or story, or cutscenes.
    You may not be ok with it, and I couldn’t understand why. Yet, blaming is just nintendo’s falut because treat us like inoperant adults, is just a hateful thing to say, when is clearly a move to avoid not only conflict, and sell more copies (everything is for the money, that’s the first rule. No company is your friend)

  • WB1c_Marathon

    I blame Nintendo for locking down their console to where I couldn’t just get the Japanese version if I wanted. I don’t care about the sexy costumes, it’s that they shaft the customers who do that angers me. If they want to avoid conflict then whatever, but don’t put anti consumer practices such as those in. It’s that they fuck over fans who don’t want to be treated as children, this and I can’t get the games I want that don’t get localized like DQ games.

  • BattlerArisato

    >mfw
    and back to the topic, I don’t want my games censored, I wouldn’t even care about the clothes, but this is just a step to other shit that NoA will pull out of their ass because they must take the “moral” choices.
    I don’t care if the girl has a bikini or is nude or whatever the fuck she has, they’re CENSORING the fucking game for no reason. Remember, soon NoA will start censoring scenes and parts of the story, hell, imagine if this game had some critiques to religion and shit, NoA would pull them off because is “not okay” for kids even if it’s part of the plot.
    And what’s wrong with a fictional character? IS A FUCKING FICTIONAL CHARACTER, THERE’S NO HARM WHATSOEVER, IT’S NOT GONNA MAKE ME A PEDO OR WHATEVER.

  • Thanatos2k

    How did I know someone was going to accuse me of “supporting censorship” when I don’t care about them censoring underage stuff, and never have?

  • Thanatos2k

    “Nice strawman.”

    Is it? Look at the comments under this article, you’ll see many comments of the like.

  • Thanatos2k

    Anyone who refuses to play a great game because they censored sexual outfits of underage characters is a nut job.

  • Figuratively Shaking

    Well, it’s a good thing censorship doesn’t have “thing Thanatos2k cares about” as a prerequisite then.

  • Figuratively Shaking

    Then it should be very easy to fulfill my request.

    Point to ONE person that is saying “Do not buy anything from anyone who has ever censored anything.”

  • ignacio falcato

    That’s something I really agree. That practice didn’t had any sense, for example, like happened on the 3DS, when their handhelds where region free, and other companies, like Sony, nowadays, most are region free, except some peculiar cases. In that case, I can relate that Nintendo doesn’t respect the customer. A 12 year old is not remotely going to import a game by it’s own means, because a lot of facts.
    Now, what I say, is that regulation (or localization) on their on regions is something expectable. Some can ruin the experience, others just to fit. But if you buy an imported game, you are aware that you are playing a game with other morals and other stuff (just put a screen that you have to be over 18 and nintendo doesn’t take resposabilities when loading it and you are aware).

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    A lot of people on Neogaf and here are scoring big on this game.

  • WB1c_Marathon

    Everything NoA did would be a non issue to me if I had the choice, I’m learning the language anyway, it’d be a good time to practice.

  • WB1c_Marathon

    Plenty of posters here have already expressed a viable solution. They’ll just buy used and avoid giving NoA money at all, but their is nothing wrong about standing on principles when there is no other choice, as in region locking. They’re essentially holding the game hostage, saying you either play it this way or not at all, now can you justify that? I mean sure, buying a Japanese Wii U is also an option, but can you justify that practice at all?

  • snugdarkly

    Underage? What in the world are you on about? I had no idea age was a prerequisite for a bikini.

  • snugdarkly

    Lol thanks m8. I’ll stick with it then.

  • TiamatNM

    Your stupidity is astounding

  • SiliconNooB

    Well, no. the bikini is obviously there for sexualisation – but it’s still not pornography.

  • snugdarkly

    Absolutely.

  • snugdarkly

    No it’s the truth. If Nintendo thinks I can’t deal with a girl in a bikini then I simply won’t deal with Nintendo.

  • West

    This is pathetic on Nintendo’s part.

  • snugdarkly

    Westerners are so bad they often see petite girls as underage solely because they’re not accustomed to older women that aren’t land whales.

  • snugdarkly

    Uh no they couldn’t. They’ve done nothing illegal at all. You’re some kind of special m8.

  • snugdarkly

    It’s still pretty typical. Nintendo censors games like I get off to anime girls.

  • WB1c_Marathon

    That’s not healthy m8, you need to hydrate in between.

  • Tyrannikos

    I am giving them far too much credit, you’re right, but it’s still what I expect of them. I don’t expect them to hit up every game community on the net, but it’s easy to connect with and understand their fanbase through other means. It’s not my fault is they choose the route of willing ignorance.

  • DariusQ

    I’m still going to play this because frankly a T rated game doesn’t really require bikinis. That doesn’t excuse the wildly inconsistent standards Nintendo is setting though. Even Xenoblade Chronicles had bikinis which didn’t get censored in the 3DS re-release and still made it’s T rating.

  • DrWawee

    Militant fanbase.

  • Mr. Snrub

    The new Fire Emblem will probably be hit as well.

  • FailedSurgery

    Are you projecting?

  • Mr. Snrub

    http://8ch.net/gamergatehq/res/293597.html – Some people on the GGHQ board posted some info showing where to contact showing your displeasure over the censorship.

  • Malcolm_Ecks

    It never stopped Senran Kagura from hitting North America. Especially Canada which has a law that clearly states sex with underaged cartoon characters as illegal. This effectively makes most anime/manga with a love story or nudity (due to Japan’s culturally lower age of consent laws) and nearly all high school hentai, child porn in Canada. Yet nothing is done about it.

    I get Nintendo is covering their toes but so many other Japanese companies don’t seem to have fucks to give and release their stuff here uncensored anyways.

    Its probably because Canadian authorities don’t want to come across as prejudiced towards the Japanese market tbh. Nintendo needs to wake the fuck up.

    Also, lack of region locking would solve this problem so damn well.

  • Malcolm_Ecks

    Public beaches, not sandy smut palaces due to women’s swimwear.

  • Zombie_Barioth

    What I said has nothing to do with “saving” anything.

    You can’t expect change if you don’t put your money where your mouth is. Its common sense.

    Or don’t. Doesn’t mean you need to go dragging people down into the anti-Nintendo bandwagon with you though.

  • dsadsada

    She was actually also 13 prior to the age boost so that’s a double right there.

  • dsadsada

    While I agree, the physical collectible nature makes it better than DLC. By maybe a quarter of a point better.

  • It’s pointless Nintendo doesn’t care for the feedback of any of their social medias, except for Miiverse, and even then they just delete the more bothersome ones they don’t want to deal with.

  • For the people who really want to play this game, don’t boycott it, just buy it used; that sends a loud and strong message.

  • Shippoyasha

    The thing is, basically every male and female in this game already have bikinis. Also JRPGs are known to have cheesecake optional costumes. So this just feels arbitrary.

  • Thanatos2k

    No, their physical nature makes them worse than DLC. Because now they’re DLC that can sell out. Oh look, that’s EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

  • Thanatos2k

    The authorities in this case are the ESRB, not the police. That’s…obvious.

  • Thanatos2k

    Sexualizing characters is what a bikini does. You know that’s their purpose, right?

  • Thanatos2k

    “but it’s easy to connect with and understand their fanbase”

    Is it? Because their fanbase has been telling them to stop the motion control gimmicks for almost a decade now, and they haven’t understood.

    Nintendo’s only engagement with their fanbase at this point is stealing their youtube ad revenue.

  • Thanatos2k

    Region locking is important, because it prevents you from playing a game. I fully support circumventing it.

  • Thanatos2k

    First comment of the article. Are you even reading them? You can also see many of them under the Kiryu reply thread.

  • Thanatos2k

    It’s possible to say “This isn’t ok” while also buying and playing the game anyways.

    Playing the game is NOT supporting censorship, any more than paying your taxes is supporting taxes.

  • Thanatos2k

    You’re completely right dude. I’ll never understand these insane people who refuse to play good games because a costume was censored.

  • Tyrannikos

    Yes, it is easy to understand the fanbase. It’s just that Nintendo is full of retards and/or disingenuous assholes. I no longer feel like supporting that with my money in hopes they miraculously get better.

  • Alistair

    Oh dear ninty Needs to go back to business school & learn how to spot a difference between games.

    Example take this censored product, the censored fate game put them both together right next to senran burst & senran-2 & see the difference.

    The difference being is both senran is uncensored both have semi naked girls closest of really being naked ninty alright with that stuff.

    But a adult horror game & this J-RPG is a no-no, no I see what ninty did the same tricked that SJWs always like to pulled is to cherry pick games which games is alright or which games is not alright & need to be censored.

  • Stilzkin

    I’m totally in the “I’ll buy it anyway” camp.

    I’m weak.

  • Stilzkin

    No this is the worst kind:

  • anon9370

    Damn those SJWs. If Lin was stated to be a 13 year old transwomyn, everyone would hail it as ‘brave’ and ‘progressive’.

  • Figuratively Shaking

    You don’t see any difference between “I won’t support or accept a censored product” and “boycott every company that has censored a product”? These are directly equivalent in your mind?

  • Thanatos2k

    “A company censored a product – boycott them” is directly equivalent to “boycott every company that has censored a product”

  • dsadsada

    Ahh, right. Forgot about that. I was just thinking of them in terms of toys and forgot about the DLC part even though I typed it.

  • anon9370

    She’s an imaginary vidya character, but still a human. Even if she only exists as a concept, or is she actually non-human within the framework of the game’s storyline?

  • Alistair

    Never believe what that link said.

    If any of that is true then the senran games, Echhi films, HENTAI games bought from manga gamer, steam censored games turn uncensored via a patch. & this photo below would be illegal too.

    As she is look young small breasted & not wearing any thing on no PANTIES.

    because if any of above is illegal then we would be in a sticky mess. Why manga gamer would be at fault for pushing out qustionable content like HENTAI not the buyer.

    Sony would be at fault for allowing questionable echhi stuff on their platforms if it censored or not.

    Monpiece was censored but yet some very questionable content left untouched of questionable of age of characters.

    Steam would be at fault for allowing patch to make HENTAI stuff uncensored.

    So no UK should not be in that list.

  • anon9370

    8-4 is tumblr tier shit. It’s gonna be a horrible localization, with xe xem xo…

  • anon9370

    lol DOGE meme in the translation!

  • Minohoro

    Has Nintendo gone 15 years back in the past when we weren’t looking or something? Were they this censor happy two gens ago?

  • anon9370

    The new Fire Emblem will be butchered for sure.

  • anon9370

    Sexiness is fine though, as long as it isn’t fanservice targeting cis straight men, who ought to have their privilege checked.

  • Carl_Ed

    I’m curious if you have ever actually gone to the beach? Because if you do you’ll find a lot of children actually wear bikinis and the like in real life. You could try going all red in the face and waving arms, yelling at the parents that letting their child wear something like that makes them pedophiles, but I’d caution that the one getting the visit from the police would end up being you, not them.

  • Carl_Ed

    Par the course with Nintendo. Their attempts to fiddle with the content of Body Harvest was the main reason Grand Theft Auto 3 moved over to Sony.

  • Alistair

    As I said below I question what that linked had said.

    Most of content in games are not cartoon pornograpic lewd yes pornograpic no can’t be said about HENTAI as it’s clearly pornograpic.

    Now about that HENTAI question is it legal or not what PEGI thoughts on that matter 1 of my many emails response from PEGI was mind blowing.

    1 about senran being “erotic” or “sexual nudity” whatever the cartoon girls ages are it still slapped a PEGI-16 on it.

    PEGI thoughts on criminal girls didn’t know the game was censored despite NISA said they talked to the rating boards & had to censored the game instead.

    & here the punchline its true PEGI does not foces on “what if” meaning if the game not be seen yet by them. But went on “HENTAI” games “could” be rated but never seen then.

    WHAT!!! PEGI would rate a cartoon HENTAI if they was given to them.

    Intreasting I thought it was illegal to do so by the naysayers.

    Here another thing suppose PEGI did the unforgivable & refuse the rating making it a BANNED product it would be illegal to be sold & illegal to pirate it. But not illegal to import a Japanese version of game as it was already rated by that region rating board.

    The import is useless if you can’t understand Japanese but the thing is now play-Asia are setting a trend that English & Chinese subtitles in Asia games “uncensored” Ho Ho SJWs nightmares come true.

    So all this point about cartoon persons being treated as real, they underage as they have no legal age in a real sense, it is what it is Art is Art so the SJWs argument is MUTED.

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    But it’s just weird. SHE’S 15! Doesn’t matter how fictional those polygons are, that’s just weird and if you like 15 year olds wearing nearly no clothes that makes you practically a pedo.

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    Says a man who likes the breasts of 15 year olds. *Cough*Pedo*COugh*GetAFuckingRealLifeGirlfriend*COugh*

  • Alistair

    Yes that maybe true coming from feminist & high moral ground SJWs but then you could say that GTA & COD are murderders guidebook if ecchi & HENTAI is for what pedophhilia is.

    Then GTA & fallout, COD etc etc is for what murderders & terrorist is right.

    But of course the later extreme violence always outset the sexual ones each time maybe extremely violence against a minor cartoon fictional with-out the sexual overtones be the answer No they still bitch about it.

    If you given the SJWs crowd what they wanted weak men being as sex objects tropes, strong woman in lead roles they still find a way to bitch about it.

    Call they bluff then let them set up Kickstarter of they own. ?

  • Kiryu

    Wow,you get the idiot of the week award.

  • Alistair

    Anyways I wasn’t going to mention this but I may as well I didn’t want to join neogaf unless I liked to be banned or worse shadow-banned & being called a pedofile on the way out.

    They all hate gamers a true SJWs website filled to the gills with white-Knights. ?

  • Alistair

    I can provide minor fictional girl tits if you want see below & still be fucking legal why because of context what happens next. Want to find out why don’t you watch it then.

    That scene is uncensored & passed by UK BBFC lewd it is, illegal it is not.

    Bart little penis rated PG by BBFC

    Loli girl small tits rated 15 by BBFC

    So any fucking game can have titys in them fully expose but most Echhi games don’t have fully expose breasts anyways & funny as its sounds Japanese has the toughest censorship laws there FACT.

  • snugdarkly

    Liking teenagers doesn’t make anyone a pedo dumbass. This just goes to show how worthless your education was. Are you honestly saying the minute you turn 18 all the girls beneath you stop being attractive? No dipshit, god you’re so stupid it’s unbelievable. There’s nothing special about age 18 at all.

  • snugdarkly

    Koneko is so ace brah. Dat petite body.

  • snugdarkly

    Did you play the Pokemon games?

  • snugdarkly

    Really? A kid like you telling other people to get a girlfriend? Are you trying to get him to end up like Robin Williams? Bled and literally hung out to dry by his ex wives? Divorce, alimony, and child support are rather expensive, but probability suggests there’s a good chance you already know that.

  • snugdarkly

    You say that like it’s a good excuse for censorship. It’s not.

  • snugdarkly

    What message? It just tells them you’ll wait a week or two before buying it. You’re just clearing out used copies so that someone else has to buy it new.

  • snugdarkly

    HA! One of the main reasons they pull stuff like this is to lower a game’s esrb ratings. You can’t use them to justify censorship.

  • snugdarkly

    You are damn it. Show some willpower!

  • snugdarkly

    And the ESRB have let far far far worse get by. You’re gonna have to try again.

  • Firion Hope

    Nah nothing against people who still want the game or aren’t personally bothered, it’s just people who think it’s totally okay or complain about people who are bothered.

  • You do realize that Nintendo doesn’t make any money off of used sales right?

  • FalseTragedian

    Most parents would not allow a 13-15 year old to wear a bikini like that in their backyard, much less to the beach.

  • FalseTragedian

    In Australia, porn featuring real adult women with A-cups is illegal because it *looks* like they’re underage.

  • FalseTragedian

    I’m trying hard to give a shit… but I can’t. Dragon Warrior had crosses removed, Final Fantasy Legend 2 had banana smugglers and jonesing banana addicts, Super Mario Bros. 2 had Birdo changed from a transgender to a bio-female, they were all still good games.
    I’m far less upset about this than about the fact that they renamed the “Dolls” to “Skells.”

  • snugdarkly

    No but they do make money off of the guys who bought new games because there were no used ones available.

  • snugdarkly

    People not giving a shit is exactly why they can get away with it. Just know that if you accept it now that’s what you’ll be getting in the future too.

  • Which is why its best to wait it out, theres always people who don’t read the news, and are just Wii U owners that have nothing to play.

  • Mysterious Stranger

    I hope Fates does get censored to hell, while I could care less about Xenoblade. The Fates costumes aren’t optional. Every female cav/paladin/great knight/general wears no pants. It’s retarded.

  • Mysterious Stranger

    I don’t think many people bought them for DLC. A lot of them don’t do anything outside of smash, and their use in smash is hardly required. I don’t feel bad about not being able to take advantage of the amiibo features because I don’t have one. (So far…)

  • Mysterious Stranger

    Thank God.

  • FalseTragedian

    I accepted it in the past, and I’ll accept it in the future. There is a line that I draw but this is not it.

  • Vizi István

    That’s exactly the same reason why I’m not phased by this costume alteration at all, N has been around WAY too long at this point to this not being surprising in the slightest. That isn’t to say I still don’t get the complaints, but the “if you accept it now, that’s what you’ll get in the future” sentiment doesn’t really have much power at this point when the “what you’ll get in the future” part has been around for two decades at the bare minimum, and if N wanted to change more things about XCX, they would have done it multiple times by now.

    And speaking of lines being drawn, I’m personally more bothered with one of the Triforce Heroes localizations having meme-y and “hip” lines than something in XCX that’s relegated to a single costume and literally doesn’t change anything substantial. Actual lines being phrased in a questionable way in localization has an entirely different weight than a single optional costume getting changed.

  • ThatGuy

    >I hope Fates does get censored to hell

    Fuck you fuck you and fuck you!

    If i’m paying for a translated, and a full price game, i want the full experience the creators intended for that audience, not some watered down version!

  • snugdarkly

    What a shame.

  • snugdarkly

    Even still. Can’t you just wait and eventually pirate it? One less used game on the market is hardly helping anything.

  • Thanatos2k

    And that’s why they’re so despicable. There’s no reason for DLC to be tied to the Amiibos. Make collectible figurines, and sell DLC. THEY SHOULD NOT BE TIED TOGETHER.

  • Thanatos2k

    And they have let less worse things not get by. The ESRB is inconsistent and incompetent. So companies are rightfully scared of what they might do or not do, and some companies are more risk averse than others.

    This isn’t complicated.

  • Thanatos2k

    Who said anything about excusing censorship. This is exposing hypocrisy.

  • Thanatos2k

    Worse, Nintendo made them intentionally scarce to drive up demand by not manufacturing enough of them on purpose. Utterly, completely despicable.

  • phagette

    She is actually nonhuman within the storyline. ~~~BIG SPOILER~~~ none of the human looking playable characters are, they’re machines meant to babysit humanity.

  • Mysterious Stranger

    My biggest complaint is the armor for female knights. It’s stupid. It’s full metal armor everywhere except their butt. It looks dumb as hell. I wouldn’t even care if it was a class that didn’t wear armor anyway. Gameplay is great, but they went full weeb. It just feels wrong. I won’t spoil anything else for you.

  • snugdarkly

    Hypocrisy? You support companies when they’re not censoring games, and don’t support them when they are. Is that supposed to be too complicated or something?

  • snugdarkly

    You damn right they’re incompetent, so no one should care what they think. Companies should stand up for their products. Companies like Xseed. I guess everyone else is just a spineless coward.

  • snugdarkly

    Btw the fact that something is weird doesn’t mean jack shit. That’s the same reasoning people used to damn gays, and it’s still the reasoning my father uses.

  • snugdarkly

    And isn’t that off topic anyway? If you’re here to defend censorship I get it. Girls are icky, but seriously it’s hypocritical to not support a company for censoring a product? What are you on?

  • snugdarkly

    That’s strange. I thought bikinis were meant for swimming. So you’re saying–if people think the wrong things, then girls can’t wear bikinis?

  • snugdarkly

    Sure it does. Nintendo has ALWAYS been like this. They’re the company for the kiddies and the soccer moms, and when they drag down games I was hoping to play into censorship hell–it’s unforgivable.

  • snugdarkly

    I don’t think anything is flopping harder than the Vita. I think the Vita is a cool system but I’m just saying.

  • snugdarkly

    Yeah maybe it would be fine if they didn’t REGION LOCK THE BLOODY THING. They’re not innocent by any means.

  • Lee Brocklebank

    I’ve been riding on the hype train since it was announced, I bought a new 3DS XL and xenoblade 3d in anticipation, I’m still gonna buy it. But it’s a worrying trend at Nintendo, first Fatal frame, now this. I can see why people won’t buy it.

  • Kiryu

    Don’t get me wrong,i love the Vita but it obviously is not a success for Sony.

  • Firion Hope

    That’s very reasonable, I hope you enjoy it.

  • haku67

    They need to add “its been censored” option for reason its been canceled.

  • No_Good_Names_Ever

    Pantie shots are like war paint, it helps puts the opposition off their game.

  • Zombie_Barioth

    Right, cause holding such a deep, not so seething grudge is healthy?

    I get personally disliking a company, but going the extra mile to convince others to follow suit is just petty imo.

    Especially when people are already advocating to vote with your wallet and not buy. They already agree with you on the ends, just not the means, but evidently that’s not good enough.

  • snugdarkly

    Grudge? That’s just a fact m8. That’s who they are. It’s not a matter of grudge or no grudge, but what Nintendo does and doesn’t do. Chill out brah.

  • snugdarkly

    Like what?

  • Sarracenia

    It’s multi-game, multi-platform, multi-purpose, physical DLC.
    I only use one for Smash, and one other for MK. The others I have I brought because they’re cheap figma of my favourite characters from various games, and they’re on a shelf.

    Physical DLC means you’re actually getting something at the very least, which is infinitely better than literally paying for different coloured pixels.

  • Minohoro

    Nope, has it gotten really bad there or something?

  • Etherblaze

    Fucking hate you NoA.

  • Antoinant

    “GetAFuckingRealLifeGirlfriend”
    How is alimony doing for you?
    2D waifus/women > 3DPD women

  • dsadsada

    Used or pirated, the end result is still the same; the companies doesn’t get your money. Another used copy will appear on the used games market as well eventually. Specifically, the used copy you got when you too are done with it.

  • Feniks

    Ar nosurge for one got a teen rating.

  • snugdarkly

    Pokemon games have always been censored. The dialogue has always been changed, and the sprites have been altered too. Usually it’s fairly minor but censorship is normal for Nintendo. It’s not something new, it’s something they’ve always done.

  • snugdarkly

    Ar No Surge sounds great.

  • Thanatos2k

    Swimsuits are for swimming. Bikinis are for displaying sexual assets while swimming.

  • Thanatos2k

    Sounds like you’re lashing out at anyone you think might be “defending censorship” even when they aren’t. And maybe calm down and reply to me once instead of spamming replies at me?

    What sickens me is the hypocritical attitude by most here.

  • Thanatos2k

    “You support companies when they’re not censoring games, and don’t support them when they are.”

    Ah the old “you’re with us or against us” fallacious terrible argument. I shouldn’t even need to explain why this argument is trash.

  • Zombie_Barioth

    When you start calling things unforgivable, yeah, that’s a grudge. A chip on your shoulder. Declaring your viewpoint “fact” just solidifies it. No offense, but its a rather close-minded viewpoint.

    But hey, I’m just calling a duck a duck.:P

  • EroBotan

    protecting the right & innocence of imaginary character is stupid

  • DrWawee

    BOYCOTT NINTENDO!

  • snugdarkly

    Nah I’m just being dramatic.

  • snugdarkly

    But that’s not what I said at all.

  • snugdarkly

    Except you are brah. Deo with it.

  • snugdarkly

    Maybe in your mind.

  • dexterweapon

    The Nintendrones did this.

  • dexterweapon

    Shut up faggot.

  • dexterweapon

    I’ll censor your mom.

  • dexterweapon

    You know who else can die in a fire? Your mom.

  • snugdarkly

    But wait, what would it matter if I had a grudge? The fact still remains that this is what Nintendo does whether I have one or not.

  • Thanatos2k

    …..Deny reality at your own peril.

  • Thanatos2k

    Continue to misrepresent my position, it’s not winning you any points.

  • Thanatos2k

    Look at the mature responses, they’re just pouring in! And you wonder why companies don’t take these people seriously.

  • Thanatos2k

    “You support companies when they’re not censoring games, and don’t support them when they are”

    That’s exactly what you said.

  • Zombie_Barioth

    Like I said, its more about going around spreading it.

    But if you’re just being dramatic, fair enough. You should know how that translated through text.:P

  • 22

    The figures themselves are fine – a neat little collectable and if that
    was all they were I would have no problem with them – but it’s the
    limited DLC attached that I have issue with. It’s worse than regular DLC
    because standard DLC will be available (in the foreseeable future) and
    the price is dictated by the publisher/developer, not by the second hand
    market and it might simply not be possible to find the amiibo you need.
    If somebody decides to buy Splatoon in a couple of years and they want
    the content that was ripped out of the game and turned into Day One DLC,
    how much it will cost will depend on how much the amiibos sell on sites
    like eBay.

    Same with the cards that you need to buy in the house
    decorating Animal Crossing game. Bought the game? Now buy the card
    scanner and the cards for the rest of it.

  • Alistair

    This off topic but it would effect how people view the Internet & more ways to censorship it & a other tool for SJWs to attacked others.

    I’m talking about the snooper charter being discussed in House of Commons tomorrow the powers at be want to KNOW what sites you visited.

    I vist this site a lot. & BBC NEWS online a lot too. & hmm some other game sites plus YouTube for my comedy by the community & infor let’s play.

    If I have time left I watch some Porn by Why God do authorities want to know what porn site you visited, game fucking sites or BBC NEWS ONLINE if I’m no where near the Telly.

    In fact I may change my way of life & not visited any fucking sites because if I visit this site then people would know I’m anti-censorship but you know that because I said it & said it again somewhere esle.

    In short people would be more mindful that the authorities are looking at your browser history. & another thing to consider should I go here is site safe. What you think that sites are safe the authorities may see it differently.

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    No it’s not. There’s nothing wrong with being Gay. There is something with only playing a game to see an underaged 13/15 year olds breasts

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    Yeah. Fuck love and real people. We should all Jack off to what is effectively child porn. I know it’s nowhere near as bad since they’re not real characters, but playing a game just for this almost implies you like child porn

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    Why are you not buying it? Because they decided to stop marketing off horny loners and give c ostumes that fit the game? Idiots.

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    Are you seriously suggesting one change to a costume is going to make the game not enjoyable? It’s a good change in my opinion because the costume fits the rest of the game

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    You buy games for the sex appeal of polygons? Get a life

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    *Sarcasmincoming* But we have no life and exect Nintendo to produce polygons to makes us think we have a girlfriend.

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    Why? Because they decided that looking at the breasts of a 13 year old is a creepy concept? I dunno about you, but if that’s what yer into, you need help

  • phagette

    I am sick of Nintendo of America arbitrarily changing anything they want in their loc process, this is just the straw that breaks the camel’s back. I’m more assblasted about “Skell” than I am of the censored outfits.

  • Richard Miller

    No kid. I don’t support Nintendo because they are foolish old men who don’t know anything about gaming anymore. They think video games are only for babies. And the NX and Nintendo Mobile is a big bitch slap to the face. Just like how the Wii and Wii U was a big bitch slap to the face. It you want to continue to be a baby then that’s your problem.

  • Richard Miller

    Wow you are a huge Nintendo fanboy.

  • Richard Miller

    You really think Nintendo is perfect don’t ya son?

  • Richard Miller

    You came to Niche just to troll.

  • Richard Miller

    Are you even old enough to date?

  • Richard Miller

    If you Nintendo fanboys continue to allow Nintendo to censor when will it end?

  • Richard Miller

    If you Nintendo fanboys continue to allow Nintendo to censor your games when will it end?

  • Go D. Usopp

    I’m actually not a Nintendo fanboy in the slightest. In fact I only even started liking them 2 years ago and have barely grown any more fond of them than I was when I didn’t buy anything from them

    I just don’t care about this and never will

  • Thanatos2k

    I’m about as far from a Nintendo fanboy as you can get. Stop this retardation that anyone not condemning this must be a fanboy who supports censorship.

    This is the number one way to alienate anyone and everyone.

  • Richard Miller

    Alienating people that hurt gaming is good.

  • Thanatos2k

    The people who demand everyone boycott good games are the ones hurting gaming.

  • Miguel Vidal

    Welp, I actually prefer the censored version.

  • Miguel Vidal

    Not all DLCs are that important to a game, and yes, I’m looking at you, colour variations and alternative textures.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    Your utter lack of self awareness amazes me.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    Just because you’re okay with censorship doesn’t mean everyone else is apologist.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    I’ll cross my fingers.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    Don’t know why it’s so hard for you to understand. Not all of us are going to ban the entire company because of a fuck up. I am boycotting the one product not the entire company.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    Maybe Freedom of expression perhaps? The slippery slope fallacy? Maybe because adults are getting sick of games being censored whether it be major or minor? Stuff that an apologist like you fails to understand. And I am betting once again you don’t care cause it doesn’t affect you.

  • Firion Hope

    Right and I don’t. If they really want to be good localizers they should add the new costume as a bonus option, not force it on people over another one.

  • Miguel Vidal

    Dunno, I find that original costume quite… unadequate…
    Maybe it would be wiser to have the censored one as the “canon” and the original as a kinda “funny costume” one, and that way there would probably be zero controversy.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    So you’re okay with censorship when it doesn’t affect you.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    So since I didn’t buy the MGS2 HD collection cause of Japan censoring the blood that implies deep down that I am psychopathic murderer? Do you not see how ridiculous that logic is?

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    I am surprised this comment hasn’t gotten more up votes well said!

  • snugdarkly

    Most of these chicks just look like skinny college girls. The arbitrary number by a fictional character doesn’t mean anything at all. For crying out loud m8, fictional girls don’t have an age of consent, nor do they have a vagina for me to fuck in the first place lol. But I imagine these fictional character appreciate your concerns nonetheless. Ya fucking idiot.

  • snugdarkly

    Wow. You really are an idiot. So let’s say I’m an artist and I write an 18 beside her instead of a 13 or 15. There you go, problem solved. It. Is. Not. Real.

    But as for real girls, do you honestly think it’s impossible for a teenager to be attractive? Like your dick just doesn’t work until they turn 18? Is that how this goes?

  • Giordan

    shut up

  • Giordan

    but Nintendo has always been kind of kid-friendly

  • Giordan

    ass

  • Giordan

    It’s one or two outfits. Why should it matter? Not to mention they gotta keep it at a T rating for the ESRB. Nintendo isn’t taking any chances.

  • Giordan

    should I mention SHE’S 13 YEARS OLD?! THAT is child pornography.

  • Giordan

    she’s 13, though

  • Giordan

    but she’s 13, dude

  • Giordan

    so you’re gonna complain about a 13 year old’s skimpy outfit isn’t being localized?
    Dude, that’s creepy. Call yourself IRRATIONAL Human

  • Giordan

    she’s 13, idiot

  • Muscle Wizard

    Uhh…Yeah they would.

  • Giordan

    SHE’S 13 YOU FUCKTARD

  • Giordan

    NX isn’t coming till 2017.

  • Giordan

    no they wouldn’t

  • Thanatos2k

    Oh look, there’s that TERRIBLE argument again! “If you buy it, you’re ok with censorship”

    Stop it with that bullshit.

  • Thanatos2k

    Your utter lack of basic logic disgusts me.

  • Thanatos2k

    Exactly, the slippery slope FALLACY. “If we don’t boycott it every time, every game will be censored!” is a FALLACY.

  • Firion Hope

    I’m pretty sure the censored one was a completely optional bonus costume to begin with

  • Firion Hope

    constructive

  • Firion Hope

    No it’s not, not near enough to be pornography. And you know, the fact it isn’t real and fictional age is arbitrary and ultimately pointless.

  • Kiryu

    She’s not real you fucktard.

  • Giordan

    doesn’t matter if she’s real or not. It’s still creepy

  • Kiryu

    Wow,you are an idiot.

  • Giordan

    how so? Because I don’t share your sick obsession?

  • Valwin Mediaz

    Salty

  • Kiryu

    No,because you can’t differentiate between fiction and reality.I suggest you get mental help,for your own good.

  • Bobby Jennings/Godless

    Bayonetta

  • MusouTensei

    Will you at least buy it used?

  • Zanard Bell

    Did they make her shorter, too?

    Remember, though: censorship isn’t also an SJW thing, it’s also a religious puritan thing as well.

  • Tyrannikos

    Nope! I already sold my Wii U! There were no longer enough games to justify me keeping it. Can’t support Nintendo anymore. Luckily I was never a big fan in the first place.

  • AsatorPrime

    As much as I hate censorship I’m strangely ok with this, in the same way I liked the age change in Bravely Default. I’d rather not play a 13 year old in a skimpy bikini, also why does Japan always have teenagers as main characters in their games. Kids are useless shits who cant do anything, I’d rather play characters over 18 who I can imagine having enough maturity to undertake *insert any game objective here*.

  • Giordan

    one exception.

  • Giordan

    Go back to jerking off to 13 year old anime girls, will ya?

  • Giordan

    You must love those underage beauty pageants, right?

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    No, but it does imply you have some sort of liking for blood or the idea of killing of injuring things

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    I am always okay with censorship if it’s neccessary, and in this case it was. I agree they could’ve just changed the age of her, and made look at bit older and that would have the same effect and that would also keep me happy, but tbh what they did is better because when she’s running around in a shiny fucking bikini it doesn’t suit the tone of the game and is just oversexualised because they can and not cause it improves the game

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    I don’t think I can take anyone seriously when their argument includes baby twice and bitch slap twice. That’s your opinion, but to be perfectly honest, I don’t see how they think it’s for babies. What, because they don’t have blood and guts and hyper realistic graphics? They’re just making happy games. Video games don’t have to be death simulators you know? You can have fun in a video game, even when it has stylised graphics. I KNOW, INSANE RIGHT? By your argument, any film that innovated, or isn’t generic action, is shit. Jurrassic park? piece of shit. Harry potter, dreadful. Lord of the rings? What were they thinking?!

    Go home

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    why? Its one word. The game is the exact same.

  • Valwin Mediaz

    Fuck no those thing are disgusting i fail to see what does things have to do with a fictional character ?

  • Valwin Mediaz

    Sick wtf is wrong with you

  • Kiryu

    And you go back to Neogaf you waste of space.

  • TeLin特林

    That’s Fuc/ing insane….

  • Richard Miller

    But you are wrong again kid as Nintendo is not innovative or fun anymore.

  • Giordan

    the fact that she’s, I don’t know, 13 years old?

  • Valwin Mediaz

    friend i think you need help if you can not tell the difference between a fictional character and a real person you are pretty twisted

  • Rogob // 113 Days

    Yeah. The ability to have 3D without glasses that tracks your face so you never break the effect is not innovative at all and you see it on everything. Go away you moron

  • Richard Miller

    3D gaming was just a fad that the foolish Nintendo fans fell for just like the motion controls.

  • Giordan

    Again, I don’t give a shit if she’s real or not.
    The character is 13 years old and she’s wearing a very revealing bikini. Hating that kind of censorship is creepy and makes you look like a pedophile

  • Valwin Mediaz

    Is not creepy are you calling the japanese nation creepy ? why remove OPTIONAL oufit ? i want the same game the japs got i dont care how disgusting it is i am not less than then

  • snugdarkly

    Senran Kagura is rated teen numb nuts.

  • Giordan

    Uh… no.
    Last time I checked Senran Kagura Burst is M.

  • Giordan

    bullshit.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    While I disagree with your position I do appreciate your honesty. There are 2 problems I have with your immersion argument.

    1. The costume is optional, you don’t have to wear it so it’s presence in the game shouldn’t make any difference.

    2. I find it funny you’re willing to suspend your disbelief of a 13 year old girl participating in a war against monsters that would’ve killed her easily. But a bikini is the tipping point for you.

  • Bobby Jennings/Godless

    The only exception. :(

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    Correlation =/= causation

  • ignacio falcato

    Tell me how many COD or GTA like games Nintendo have. This is not a general rule, but from the company image. Rockstar would have no issues, because they want to make controversy, but Nintendo is not.

    I just don’t nderstand why ALL people relate automaticly with “high morals” or “feminists”, while this is not a moral thing or a political one, but a matter of image (Nintendo being family-friendly in US, and avoid ANY kind of conflict with a feminist activis sueing Nintendo for “blunt sexism” or other stuff, because, people can be assholes and find some type of twisted buissness in this kind of situations). Less that this is a dealbraker, just because censorship. You know how many games are censored? Probably most of thouse you played it and even liked it, like Bravely Default, or even FF7

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    MadWorld, Oneechanbara Revolution, Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor’s Edge, Devils 3rd, Resident Evil 4, and The Twin Snakes. Try again.

  • Alistair

    Femmists to sue ninty for blunt sexism well they’ve missed the trick with senran kagura games.

    Senran kagura bust & senran kagura 2 that game is properly be called sexism too as you able to prop at the girls boobs in dressing room to they objections.

    The cooking one Bon-appetite if done properly will reward you with a sexy time the girls naked whipped in cream. So that trigger the femmists wouldn’t it.

    The trigger being seeing women/girls as sex objects as rewards Bon appetite does just that.

    & Yes senran kagura is on ninty platform the 3ds I brought it because ninty was going to let ecchi on they’re platform themselves won’t want to join ecchi market by making ecchi games.

    Also ninty is family friendly I thought they’re though that out by releasing adult games & ninty fought bent over backwards for bayonette-2, the extremely controversial mad world.

    To be blunt if ninty fears that being sue by femmists then they’re should go back being family friendly Devs & make safe games.

    If anybody is interested ninty are third in the market what does that tells you?

  • Alistair

    Here the scary thought imagine princess toadstool in a thong with senran style clothes destroyed gimmick. Approved by ninty.

    I can hear the outbursts from here as it be so loud.

  • ignacio falcato

    Third party, third party, third party, third party, third party, third party, third party, third party aaaand third party. Even Bayonetta wasn’t first party despite the invesment Nintendo made. Aaalso, Bayonetta 2 which was heavly promoted by Nintendo, is still a well grown woman (in xenobaldes, the outfits from other woman are still the same as in japan), so it wouldn’t enter as a underage case.

    Is clear to me that Nintendo isn’t against sexy woman, but they wouldn’t risk it with underage characters in a first party game. If it’s third party, they still have to pass “Nintendo standards of quality” which is arbitrary sometimes, letting Sengen Kagura uncensored (yet there is mot much to censor, per se) and censoring the outfits on fatal frame. Yet is not a Ninty problem, is a third party issue.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    Makes sense I guess. I mean how else are you gonna explain why Saki from Oneechanbara and Mirai from Senran Kagura get past Nintendo censors but Lyn Lee did not. I guess with my list I was under the impression that maybe Nintendo grew up but I guess not.

  • Sam Malik

    Fatal Frame, Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor’s Edge, Devils 3rd and MGS Twin Snakes were all published by Nintendo. Hell, Nintendo even co-owns FatalFrame and fully owns Eternal Darkness. Anyways, everything else was published by 3rd parties such as SEGA and Midway. Also, the original Xenoblade was untouched. So why touch this is beyond me.

  • Sam Malik

    Isn’t Mirai 14?

  • ignacio falcato

    The thing is, this is al PR to avoid any issues with the launch and avoid a parent rage that US is well known for (despite being not that prolific for thouse who shout, Nintendo doesn’t like bad press at all).Any of the previous games published by Nintendo had an underage using a slutty bikini, and they got afraid, like it happened with Bravely default (ther outfits where more revealing on Japan, and most of the characters where underage).
    Nintendo wants to sell, and that’s the point. If someone didn’t like the modifications, like most say, vote with your wallet.

  • ignacio falcato

    Then vote with your wallet. Don’t buy Nintendo stuff until they grew up. If this is so an issue for a lot of people, Nintendo doesn’t deserve to make any games until they tries to satisfy our demands.
    Is simple as that. Case closed.

  • snugdarkly
  • snugdarkly

    People are stupid. It’s par for the course.

  • Giordan

    several of those weren’t even published by Nintendo

  • Kaihaku

    And yet here you are, apparently over the age of 18, but still using a medical condition as an insult.

  • British_Otaku

    15 in the first game, but as Burst spans a long time over the whole story for Hebijo. She may be younger.

    TheCynicalReaper’s point is that in the Japanese version you can find all of the ages, right there in the game profiles and read them mention their ages in the voiced dialogue. Much like Dead or Alive with characters who are under 18, they just hide all references.

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  • Consti2tion

    You Forgot No More Heroes! GOTTA RECHARGE MY LIGHT SABER!

  • Temmie

    I feel the same about this.

  • Sandman83

    Personally I think all censorship is horrible. Especially in gaming. Games are our times greatest work of art. There is no other medium that better captures our times best music, artwork, storytelling etc. and simply put you in the middle of it all. To censor this is as horrible as if one would paint over a painting because it was consider to violent, or to sexy or whatever. And really, Xenoblade Chronicles X is especially bad as that game from my point of view is the best game ever created and truly is breathtaking in every way.
    Not a single censorship in that game even makes any sense (you’ll understand if you played the game).
    Still great game worth to pick up on but it’s just sad that it would be censored in the aspects:
    * Lin was censored because she introduces her self as 13 years old if you ask for her age (*Spoiler* she might be alot older).
    * Breast sliders was removed, woman can in other words not create an avatar that looks like themself in this aspect. This is a little sad as one of the fun aspect of the game is to create an avatar that looks like yourself and thereby putting yourself in the game as one of the last survivors of mankind.
    This is also pretty stupid as even kids game like the sims have this now addays. It’s like a standard feature and just on of like 30 other things you can customize about you’re character.
    * The creator is the mastermind behind final fantasy 4 – 8, Chrono trigger, Secret of mana, Xenogears. Some references to Xenogears was removed for some reason witch from my point of view would have been cool as it’s the same person that created them (not same company).
    In other cases the censorshop actually managed to even change the story (Xenogears, Final fantasy 6, project Zero 5 for example).
    That we do this is as stup as the times trough history when we decided to burn every book of something for whatever the reason or executed great cientists just because we didn’t agree whit them.

  • Galbador

    So what? Back in the 80s, kids were wearing those in public pools and nowadays it is perverted all of a sudden? Heck, my older sister had such a bikini when she was a kid and no one said a word. This world just got insane and oversensitive.

  • Giordan

    so what’s it like being a pedophile?

  • Galbador

    Dunno, never had this problem before, because virtual characters don’t turn me on and neither does real people (it is complicate).

    But it really wonders me quite a bit, why a piece of cloth is so bad. I mean, as I said in my last post, back in the days, no one complained about this in REAL LIFE and even when the kids at my class used them in class. It was kind of normal, but somehow in the modern world of today, it is bad to see a non-realistic character in a game that wears a bikini and if people say they have no problems, they are called pedophiles; people who want to have sex with children. That makes no sense to me, because, as a person who has no problem with the matter of a non-realistic character wearing a bikini, is not turned on by it. It is true that the world I suppost to know, changed so dramatically or just went dumbshit as possible. But then again, people use to vote republican politicians for the White House after all the crap the last republic president did, so… yeah, that may explain a lot.

    tl;dr : Stop taking drugs. There are baaad for you ;)

  • Giordan

    do you not realize how much skin she’s showing?

  • Galbador

    Seriously, this bikini is just made like other bikinis and if you google teen or kid bikini, it is just the same. You can legally buy them for your kids and teens, it is nothing bad or perverted as you try to promulgate it as some kind of a dogma.

    This is not Dead or Alive Beachvolley Ball but Xenoblade, a game that lives from its story; something that bothers us fans of this series a lot. But that is not the real problem. This kind of censorship is only the begin and who knows where it will eventually end?

    This is why I say that the game should stay as it is, even if this means the bikini stays, even though it is not important for me, because Lin could wear a clown suit for crying out loud, but this only shows that companies are too afraid of people outside Japan, who sees things that are not there or overreacting about things, that are not worth the trouble.

  • Giordan

    it’s also trying to get a T rating

  • Galbador
  • Giordan

    yeah cause they took out that costume