Nintendo Censored Story Content in Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water

While our previous report covered Nintendo removing the lewd costumes in Koei Tecmo’s Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water, it seems like the publisher has actually modified (read: censored) the game more than we previously thought.

Featured above, a French user on YouTube has recorded a comparison of both the original Japanese version of the game, as well as the European version.

The key thing of note here is the flashback sequence has the one protagonist Miu Hinasaki wearing her gravure bikini in the Japanese version (as that is literally her profession prior to the events of the game). The European version sees this outfit entirely swapped out for something more tame.

While this isn’t seeing content removed entirely, the context of the flashback is completely lost now that she’s not wearing her gravure bikini – something that she would be doing as part of her career as an idol.

We’ve had a few people asking how the context of this is lost – in this cutscene Miu is saying things like “I’m nothing. Nothing but an empty shell,” as well as “I do whatever I am told. I know all too well what you want… how dumb.” With her wearing less risque clothes, the dark, adult tone behind this scene is lost.

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  • Loli-Nox-Tan

    Oh well …….

  • ivanchu77

    Fucking Puritans

  • Nagato

    And this kind of puritanism, Nintendo, is one of the many reasons why the Western market won’t ever take you seriously again.

  • Imouto Desu

    Welp, not gonna support censorship.
    More money for other games!

  • Valwin Mediaz

    Just imagine how they will censor Fire emblem

  • Ceraii

    Nintendo censored lewd content? That has never happened before! /sarcasm

    Dear Nintendo when people say they want it to be like the good ole days with you, you can leave out censoring naughty content and curse words. It’s ok. We will survive such content.

  • Blood-SX

    Theres no going back, theres no way this can be salvaged

  • Into the trash it goes.

  • Dakt

    Think you guys could attempt to get in touch with NoA regarding this…? Couldn’t hurt to try.

    I’m seeing a lot of moaning about it, but Nintendo in their blissful little world are unlikely to even look at comments, although they recently deleted and reuploaded the new trailer when its like/dislike ratio shifted towards a 1:2

  • blackice85

    Oh they’re aware I’m sure. They likely don’t want to address it because that would give more weight to the issue, but maybe they’ll prove me wrong and speak up for once.

  • Dakt

    It just seems so counterproductive to sit here moaning about it when there’s such an uproar about it, you know? If we don’t attempt to display our anger at this, I can see them assuming that anyone that cares about this stuff is just a vocal minority.

  • I contacted the head of their PR (I have his contact from a previous engagement).

    Still nothing. I’ll ping him again soonish

  • Dakt

    And that’s why you guys are on the up and Polygon is taking blogs from entitled devs

  • blackice85

    Oh I agree that they should be contacted, I didn’t mean that we shouldn’t. I’m just saying they’re not going to be surprised by the reaction, they’re pushing an agenda. It took effort to alter things already in the game, and they don’t make changes without discussing them.

  • deadeye

    Sigh.

    It kinda sucks the actual developers at Nintendo are pretty great, but then you have all of this going on and it’s just “why”.

    I still really want the game so I can support the developers and hopefully get more of it over here, but fuck, man.

    And I STILL don’t understand why they were so enthusiastic in their support of Bayonetta 2, but then they do this. I do not understand Nintendo.

  • Master Bating

    An then they will complain how the game didnt sell enough copies and speculate that it was due to the content that was left instead of the content they removed.

    Either way we get shafted.

  • Lorne

    I don’t understand what Nintendo is trying to do here. This game is rated M so it’s not like they’re “protecting” anyone with this move. We have movies and TV shows where we depict people having sex under sheets for audiences 14+ but we have to censor an M game?

    Fatal Frame is a niche audience and it’s not like Nintendo tried their best to advertise this game. Most of the people that now about Fatal Frame are the hardcore audience. A move like this is just distasteful to Nintendo’s consumers.

  • Mighty No. 56008

    How? It’s digital only ;)

  • Azure

    Well done Nintendo you lost your customers.

    How come Bayonnetta has not been censored?

  • Dewey Defeats Truman

    Why even bother localizing it.

    Seriously, this is fucking embarrassing.

  • Domhnall

    Ah, you can use mine. I gotcha covered.

  • Dewey Defeats Truman

    They didn’t have any problem at all with Bayonetta 2 last year so what they’re doing right now is just downright hypocritical as well.

  • Eldhin Hellknight

    Is Nintendo of America a bunch of idiots or something?

  • Domhnall

    Fuck Treehouse. They’re agenda pushers who care more about their politics than they do about faithfully and fairly localizing content. I’m never touching a Treehouse game (I’ll import Fates, thank you very much) and as long as the people staffed in that department still have jobs the whole of Nintendo can fuck off too.

  • Fenrir007

    CFW can’t come any sooner. An undub is direly needed.

  • What’s CFW?

  • Fenrir007

    Custom firmware. Allows you to run unsigned code or modified games on a console.

  • Looks like there’s still no getting a Wii U.

  • Mighty No. 56008

    “But again like I said, most people are angry and worried that this will
    set an unwanted precedent that will lead to more unnecessary censorship
    that would eventually lead cut content that actually does matter.”

    Perhaps not completely immersion or mood breaking, it shouldn’t have happened at all. And it wouldn’t have if they left all the original content.

  • nine_ball

    Googling should be the first thing you do when you have a question like that.

  • Ah, cool. That stuff is needed.

  • Ceraii

    That is true. I wouldn’t say so much hypocritical as I would say confusing. But that was when Iwata was president now we have the same guy that ran NOA back in the 90’s so maybe that’s why. Changes like that, as the article says, really mess with the context of the story. I really do want to a see a censpring revert back to the 90’s.

  • Mighty No. 56008

    Well played good sir (or ma’am)

  • Bianca Ann Saracino

    Unfortunately it seems like Bayo 2 is the exception to the rule when you think about it, a shame too as I really thought it was them changing =/

  • eltonBorges

    What I asked in the last post? Boom, not gonna get anything form Nintendo anymore. The Wii U was the first time i got a Nintendo console in my whole life. IT’s bad, not terrible but bad. But, after I’ve seen how the Big N treats their games, I’m happe this was all the money I’ve spent on them. It’s a mature game, it’s for adults! Why cut, nothing is usually cut from movies, nothing is cut from comics and books, so why games have to receive this treatment?!?!

  • Tsundere Vader

    Let’s be honest. Is ANYONE surprised at this point? The “super spoopy” trailer, STILL digital download only for NoA release, getting rid of harmless bikini alt. costumes, and now this? It seems NoA’s and NoE’s priorities have been to censor this game little by little so that parent’s don’t get upset if they find their child downloaded a game *gasp* WITH SIDEBOOB.

  • blackice85

    I wish I was fluent in Japanese, importation isn’t practical for many people.

  • blackice85

    I’d understand it more if it were heavily advertised like you said, that would at least make some sense.

  • PenguinPlayer

    They know Kamiya would block them if they did.

  • Domhnall

    Depending on the firmware on your 3DS you could get one of the region-free hacks. Some folks over at 4chan or 8chan, can’t remember which, are translating the game directly themselves, and when they’re done you’ll be able to play the game in a faithful English translation.

  • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

    Well, there are no absolutes but it’s true that with actions like this, is very hard for them to ever shake off the stigmata of being a company who only makes games for kids. Let’s not forget that the Wii U was made to “bring back the hardcore”. Kinda hard to do that when you pull stunts like this~.

  • Ninjagai

    This is very strange considering Nintendo was actually asking for more risque clothing in Bayonetta 2.

  • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

    Probably sexy times will be replaced with interior design or some similar cookie cute bullshit~.

  • TheCheeseMan

    Yes

  • Offendatron_5000

    Word has also come out that Nintendo has removed ghost from the game, as their ability to move through solid matter may offend those that are confined by third dimensional physics or specterkin.

  • Tsundere Vader

    Damn right, those dimensional shitlords need to learn their spoopy privilege!!11!

  • landlock

    Nintendo Japan supported the development of Bayonetta 2

  • deadeye

    Honestly? I’d prefer interior design. That would be great.

  • landlock

    I don’t like it but I’m still going to get it. I need Project Zero and old school survival horror. There is no alternative.

  • Bianca Ann Saracino

    Definitely hoping for region free and english patch for FF5 one day, just like the japan only FF4 had one ^_^

  • NuclearCherries

    My trust in Nintendo just keeps on falling. They are destroying trust with the western niche market, which could decrease the sales of the next handheld.

    Maybe it’s finally time to learn Japanese, and rev up those imports. It’s for the greater good of the industry.
    I expect the blowout to be bigger once Fire Emblem Fates comes out. That game is going to be censored to hell and back. Content will be removed entirely, characters will be changed, all for that T rating. If Fates is censored, trust in NoA will fall even more than it already has.
    They can choose between Heaven and Hell, and it all lies with if they learn from this.

  • Raziel Barkrai

    Kamiya sets out to achieve whatever vision he has and doesn’t take shit from anyone, not even little kids.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    AND NOW IT’S RUINED! I TOLD YOU! YOU INCREDIBLY NINTENDO FANBOYS NEED TO CUT THIS BLINDNESS OUT

    “BUT NO” they screamed, “IT’LL BE OKAY EVEN THOUGH NINTENDO LABELED THE TRAILER AS ‘SUPER SPOOPY’! YOU’RE OVERREACTING TO SWIMSUITS BEING CUT!”

  • TheCynicalReaper

    I’M SICK OF NINTENDO! I WILL NEVER GET A western WiiU!
    This is a game for adults! The context is incredibly eerie and ADULT, it’s very much a horrible aspect of REAL LIFE for Japanese idols (like all Hollywood starlets being at the mercy of perverts and pedophiles).

    Just… JUST

  • evilmajikman

    Idk about “great”. All they do is rehash done ideas. Mario Kart 8 is just Mario Kart 7 HD, Zelda A Link Between Worlds was just a rehash of A Link To The Past, Smash 4 is just a slightly faster Brawl without Single Player value. If anything, the term highly overrated is more fitting.

  • Offendatron_5000

    Why are you complaining about being skinny or fat… I DON’T EVEN HAVE A PHYSICAL FORM!

  • TheCynicalReaper

    Also, I figured that was the problem with the censorship here, Orselli, but thanks for stating it outright.

    Funny how this comes at the heels of an article regarding XSEED’s VP and censorship.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    Hahaha! nicely done

  • Audie Bakerson

    It just keeps getting worse…

  • TheCynicalReaper

    Yeah, actually.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    It’s rather spoopy, isn’t it?

  • Richard Miller

    Nintendo needs to grow up.

  • tetrisdork

    And, the complaints about the lack of leud costumes is justified. Too bad some “journalists” will be happy because the smut ruins their chances of “trying to justify the medium as a mature platform”. (CoughDamienMcFerranCough)

  • tetrisdork

    Hell, Kill LA Kill exists. And yet this gets censored. Fuck puritan hipsters. They have denied me a chance to buy the game.

  • Jack Ripper

    No wonder I haven’t touched a Nintendo console in a fucking decade.

  • Tsundere Vader

    You choose to be represented by a skinny spirit, therefore THIN PRIVILEGE CNFRMD!!11!!!!1!!!

  • Reon

    Yeah, this is NOA the Nintendo of America’s fault, they’re th ones responsible for the terrible track record of butchering the games their japanese devs do.

    Sometimes they pull of good moves like their treehouse events at E3.
    But other times they do terrible nonsense like this.

  • Offendatron_5000

    OHMUHGERD!

  • Reon

    Nintendo is just a mystery of arbitrary nonsensical actions that are impossible to piece together into any coherent sense.

  • Reon

    Surprised, nope.
    But disappointed perhaps.
    Deep deep inside some of us wanted to have hope in them not messing up again.

  • Tsundere Vader

    You know that means don’t you… PATRIARCHY

  • Reon

    Oh yeah.

  • Reon

    Nintenyearolds jokes are justified.

  • Reon

    Is there any point in caring about nintendo games anymore when they all get censored?

    This, censored.
    Fire emblem, censored for sure.
    Xenoblade, censored probably.

  • Tsundere Vader

    It’s strange as well, it seemed as if they were AGAINST this sort of censorship back in 2014 with Bayonetta and all, but now they seem to want to get rid of anything that can be dubbed “inappropriate”. Though I suppose this game is gonna join the list of Nintendo fuck-ups.

  • tccboss

    Nintendo ya blew it.

  • Offendatron_5000

    ..

  • Tsundere Vader

    ………………….

  • DLMartin

    I don’t know what people are getting mad at Nintendo in general since this is, once again, NOA’s fault. NCL treats their fans in their region just fine. NOE treats their audience like kings and queens. But here in America, NOA treats us like fuckin children. While this is trivial at best, I don’t appreciate censorship of a damn M rated title. I hope Kimishima restructues NOA, but it’s managed by a bunch of monkeys (Bowser and Bill are cool. They should stay though.)

  • Lucian

    The last time I bought a game that had this kind of censorship was Bravely Default. The game’s localization also had around 10 abilities in the game that had misleading descriptions, some even with the opposite effect the tooltip explains.

    This is a survivor horror that you’ll have to solve puzzles to progress. imagine if the game’s dialogues delivered misinformation, therefore making it impossible to progress unless there’s trial and error, or because of a translation mistake the puzzle is completely unsolvable?

    If the localization team is more bothered to censor the game instead of making sure the game is properly playable, I see no reason to buy this. It’s quite possible the game could have a something improperly translated and making it impossible to progress, as it’s a game that demands a lot of reading, and we can quite clearly see they are paying no mind to quality of translations, otherwise they would consider this is a adult game for paying adults, which know what they are buying and playing.

  • BurntToShreds

    Why not go further and rename the game “Doom Frame” while you’re at it?

  • British_Otaku

    I picked up the Japanese version of Bravely Default to avoid censorship but still played with the English options… I didn’t notice the faulty descriptions but had a lot more to dislike.

    I agree that edits like this can reflect badly on how they translate puzzle or diary information.

  • Thesimpleway

    So wait, is the bikini removed completely in the european version or only in this cut-scene?

  • British_Otaku

    Lucky enough, the Japanese Wii U’s major games are largely light on language, support dual audio + more aside from not being censored. Devil’s Third in Japan is the only exception I remember.

  • British_Otaku

    Completely removed from the game. America and Europe have the same game.

  • Megamatics

    I often wonder how Conkers Bad Fur Day made it to the Nintendo 64. Is Nintendo Confused about what M Rated means? I would like to inform them that it doesn’t mean straight up porn like A Rating; but content that Mature audience could experience like bikinis, killing, and other more sacrilegious things you find in the adult world.

  • British_Otaku

    The Wonderful 101 is also an exception then and Devil’s Third.

    Not a long list but games directly funded by them perhaps with development input in the T and M ranges.

  • Eleven Fold

    So no physical copy, removed extra costumes, and censored story content.

    Region locked console, no Ethernet port, shitty controller, need different types of controllers to play certain games, and not that many games for the console.

    So why do people still deal with Nintendo again?

  • InfectedAI

    Has not edited the registry to change its name. What a pleb.

  • Not a penny of my money for this Nintendo, you can keep it.

  • Yabloko Molloco San

    Nintendo owed Rare a really, really big one back then so I guess they had special treatment.

  • Joel Leonheart

    Just gonna say that if developers of any games (or other entertainment) let’s their vision to be censored/altered without some sort of resistance by other’s (especially if it’s already M rated)

    Just maybe they might not deserve support from their fan’s??

    And I mean developers that self censor their work before hand or by pressure from people who don’t even get those product’s regardless

    Thankfully on these cases you can get the original work in this case from Japan mostly unaltered right?? :3 (Though the language barrier might be in the way of enjoying the work but it’s minor obstacle heh)

  • Experiment #626

    well fuck you too nintendo

  • Phil F.

    In Fire emblem’s case it’d be an improvement, since they’re just going to get rid of that waifusona pokamie cancer

  • InfectedAI

    As far as I’m aware 101 didn’t have any objectionable content.

  • InfectedAI

    Maybe I missed some sarcasm as it’s easy to do on the internet, but the language barrier is an enormous obstacle. It sucks when fan translators constantly outdo official localizations. I hope they bring us a proper translation of this some day. With the original content and a Japanese audio option.

  • InfectedAI

    Not to mention this game alone will take up half your storage space and Nintendo doesn’t allow you to change the internal space. They only allow external drives.

  • InfectedAI

    Why did they owe them?

  • British_Otaku

    And you would be mostly right, my point is more about how they pressured Kamiya away from using their characters and an earlier visual style but welcomed him to have Vijounne, a healthy range of gags even sexual ones, all of the characters though small (you can view it later) in only undergarments when beaten up with only one trailer being notable cuts to how it is edited.

    It seems to have had a good time coming together and being localised as a T rated new IP for Nintendo.

  • InfectedAI

    Are bikinis even considered mature content? Kids seem them at the beach all the time. The puritanism in this industry is disheartening.

  • InfectedAI

    Sorry ‘Doom’ is too foreboding. Can you tone it down a bit for the kids?

  • British_Otaku

    Misfortune Frame confirmed.

  • InfectedAI

    It’s not like Nintendo shares no blame in this. They’re the main bosses. They could overrule NOA and tell them to stop this nonsense. They’re obviously fine with this.

  • British_Otaku

    Those two games are still clean. I respect your right to choose what not to buy but honestly would buy games from Ubisoft if they just happened to be good (not having trash DRM helps too).

  • InfectedAI

    Actually censorship in comics and film happens quite a bit. Books are more ignored nowadays in most places.

  • InfectedAI

    This was the game I was going to buy a Wii U for. I’m not going to spend hundreds of dollars to be treated like a child. I’ll just upgrade my PC and play games that treat me like an adult and allow me to choose what content to consume. It’s a bikini! How puritanical can you get?

  • TiamatNM

    Senran Kagura Burst had bikinis and that got a T rating after all…

  • InfectedAI

    Source on deleting the trailer? That’s hilariously sad.

  • British_Otaku

    I have a suggestion that we attempt to band onto the #NintendoIndirect hashtag to raise our concerns and draw them towards Nintendo. It seems to have the recent purpose to nod at the lack of Nintendo Directs recently (I can’t blame them since Iwata sold that experience to us), but it seems like a good place to send our concerns while aiming them at Nintendo’s various branches.

    You can speak about how Nintendo are being Indirect (very clever I know) or numerous games which you are disappointed in whether it comes down to censorship or other fractions – ideally all of it being constructive. It is a good deal better than us mostly agreeing here and on Operation Rainfall. So far, I’m not convinced that Brandon has made a step towards looking for answers not that I expect anything or even what FUNimation gave us for Prison School.

  • Thanatos2k

    Nintendo proving that developers need to keep all mature games off their platforms. And they wonder why their consoles fail with no third party support?

  • Thanatos2k

    Europe too, it seems.

  • Thanatos2k

    What’s the problem, everything he said there is correct. Especially about Danganronpa.

  • Thanatos2k

    And they sold a console where the day one patch took up >70% of the hard drive space.

  • Softclocks

    comics are censored all day everybody buddy.

  • Valwin Mediaz

    Not really

  • TWE

    I think they are hoping that with the release of Triforce Heroes they can sweep this title under the rug and pretend western folk aren’t interested in it.
    I wish it was never in NOA’s hands. They seem to destroy everything they touch.

  • ShitBiscuits

    As someone who is a massive Fatal Frame fan and has been since the first one came out, the sad reality is that I’m more than likely going to end up buying this anyway.

    Frankly, I don’t really WANT to support this kind of shit. There is absolutely zero reasons why this should have been censored.
    But I now have a choice to make, as a fan of the series. Do I:
    A) Buy the game anyway and, unfortunately, support this stupid censoring.
    ~or~
    B) Join the people boycotting the game now and refuse to buy the game on principal, essentially dooming the series to never come back to America shores.

    I hate to say this, but the very unfortunate bottom line for me is that, in all honesty, this isn’t that bad of a censorship job(assuming nothing else was changed) to warrant me not supporting one of my favorite games series. And I’ll most likely end up buying eventually. I will, however, probably wait a good while to make sure nothing major was changed.

  • MusouTensei

    I would no one tell to boycott it and I for sure will get the Limited Edition (and let’s face it, it will sell like shit regardless), but we Need to ask Nintendo of America (as I’m sure it’s their fault) and force an official Statement out of them, over and over again, making it absolutely clear that this is not acceptable.

  • MusouTensei

    That’s a Publisher decision, Xseed, who publishes Senran Kagura, would have never done this to Fatal Frame, worst Thing they do is hiding the ages of the characters.

  • H.S

    Heck, Nintendo of America should have gone all the way with the bikini -> Nintendo outfit switch.

    Change Miu’s profession to professional cosplayer, and make it so she was doing a cosplay shoot in the Samus outfit in that scene. The narration in the scene would be talking about how she hates that people always objectify her while she’s cosplaying.

  • MusouTensei

    Nintendo Japan did, NoA would have never, but Bayo 2 was a Prestige Project so NoA had to accept it how it is, this time tho it’s a niche game they don’t think will sell much.

  • DrWawee

    Nintendo obviously doesn’t want our money.

  • Bianca Ann Saracino

    At least NISA had the courage to explain why they did it (100% not defending NISA) Nintendo will probably never have the courage to come out.

  • ShitBiscuits

    We both know that’s not going to happen.
    Nintendo has a long history of making what they consider “good business decisions”, sticking to them, and refusing to comment on why they made those decisions. It’s a very Japanese way of conducting business.
    They’ll do with this like they’ve done countless times over the last 25 years and simply ignore this small bit of controversy until it disappears. It might get brought up from time to time in interviews with Reggie, and he’ll laugh it off and make up some corporate speak excuse to deflect the issue. Same as they’ve done for things like Mother 3 and region locking for years now.

    And really, how many people beyond the handful here in the comments and the few on 8chan will give a damn about a few cut outfits and a wardrobe change in a single short scene? Not many. The vast majority won’t care, because removing or modifying those few minor things will not make the game unplayable to most fans of the series. To them, it will be a non-issue. Because this is the first real Fatal Frame we’ve seen in America since Fatal Frame 3 came out. They’re happy to get anything at all at this point.

  • Leftoverlunch

    1GB = 70% of 32GB…………….. Fk me schoolings getting bad.

  • Yabloko Molloco San

    Goldeneye, Donkey Kong Country and other best sellers that became killer aps

  • Zombie_Barioth

    Considering their ridiculous corporate structure, I wouldn’t be surprised if the reason they flip-flop so much on things like this is they vote on wether or not to change or censor things.

    Sadly, that’s probably more logical than any excuse they’ll ever conjure up.

  • Dakt

    I just noticed on my YouTube feed for Nintendos WiiUk page it was at the top again yesterday, despite me leaving a comment on it on tuesday. It was reuploaded and had a quarter of the views/likes

  • Tyrannikos

    I’ve been feeling like selling my Wii U lately. I just feel kind of grossed out whenever I support Nintendo these days.

  • Antoinant

    “So why do people still deal with Nintendo again?”

    Loyalist retards. Don’t forget the amiboo bullshit too.

  • Matt

    Nintendo sucks and deserves to lose money on this flopping.
    Strike 1: No Disc release.
    Strike 2: Swapped costumes for Nintendo characters that have no business in a horror game and ruins the mood/artistic integrity.
    Strike 3: Now they decided to alter cut scenes.

    I hope this game fails, or severely under performs. If they decided not to bring anymore over, oh well. Their loss. I have news for you Nintendo, I’m not 5 anymore. XSEED has my business just on principle alone. Don’t fuck with my games.

  • Matt

    And for that, I respect him. Stay true to your form and tell the story you want told with no limitations.

  • Matt

    Yes. They make Amiibo’s just not enough. They want to be taken seriously, but censor what few mature games actually come out. They want their system to sell, but they put hardcore region locking on so fans cant import the games they want. They cant even see the global economy in the year 2015 sitting right before their eyes.

  • Matt

    Then they need to do better parenting, or Nintendo needs to offer a separate marketplace for mature titles. I am sick of hearing the parent thing. If people suck as parents and expect a video game system to be a babysitter, rather than sit down and get to know their children, they get what they deserve. Why should everyone else suffer because lazy people cant take up basic responsibilities to be a part of their children’s lives and monitor what they do?

  • Matt

    How did Conkers Bad Fur Day ever make it to the public?!

  • Matt

    Wanna know why? Because there WAS NO REASON except Nintendo gets its kicks by controlling everything and telling us what we should want rather than treat us as mature adults who can decide for ourselves.

  • Antoinant

    Welcome to the modern world. Effort, honesty & responsability is no longer rewarded.

  • Phil F.

    Well of course you’d say that waifufag

  • Kiryu

    And every time you have the Nintoddlers justifying this by saying it”s no big deal.

  • Kiryu

    I was considering buying a Wii U for this game,Bayonetta,Xenoblade and FE crossover but now they really turned me off with this shit.

  • Carl_Ed

    Nintendo have two ways of going about things. They’ll either get out the knives or not mention something exists or advertise and try to bury it. Conker is the latter, like Devil’s Third has been recently. Just about every recent Fire Emblem has been the former.

  • evilmajikman

    Key word supported. Platinum Games developed it though.

  • Kiryu

    Muh soggy knees.

  • Siveon

    Dungeon Keeper meets Fighter Emblem.

    I’d buy that for a(40) dollar(s)!

  • Carl_Ed

    The N64’s game library wasn’t actually that good, and it was pretty much ignored by all the big Japanese publishers. The big American publishers (excluding Midway, I guess) just threw the standard sports titles its way and called its quits. Nintendo was at the top of its game at the time, some of the best games they ever made, but they were their usual slow selves and only made something like ten 1st party games for it.

    Into that stepped Rare, who were also at their creative peak. They made about the same number of games for it as Nintendo, but the overall quality of them was more consistently good than Nintendo themselves. In effect, they single handedly nearly doubled the number of high quality games in the N64’s library and helped turn the console’s legacy from what would have in effect been a failure into something of a conditional success. Nintendo had better third party support with the Gamecube, but I’d suggest a lot of people would regard the N64 as having the better library, most of that comes down to Rare.

  • Carl_Ed

    Feeling a bit peaky frame.

  • Carl_Ed

    There’s been a leadership vacuum at NOJ, to be fair. The inmates have probably been left in charge of the asylum while that gets sorted.

  • They shouldn’t have done this. The level of censorship in America is disgusting.

  • InkViper

    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t, on one side if you leave the content in your game you’ll get it from both the far right and now the far left press outlets, censor yourself and you get it in the neck from the gamers. I mean it’s all well and good bitching and moaning and calling NOA a bunch of idiots but after all they are just a glorified marketing department, so in stead of complaining all the time, do some think. you want the content return to the game, so what to do, write an email, start a petition and get it circulating, but don’t sit there and do nothing. You want this game in its full original entirety, make it happen. Afterall don’t forget operation rainfall, because it did happen and did help, getting those three games stateside.

  • koksuckaahh

    What was the point of this?, they’re just alienating the main audience who were interested in buying this game!, the way nintendo handled this title is just all wrong…

  • eltonBorges

    Not exactly. See, if you look at the big names, they are censored, maybe censored is the wrong word, since they don’t even publish a version and then change it, so, it’s hard to say its censorship.
    But you can see many comics coming from outside the huge names that have everything. You can have sex, violence as much as you want, rape, whatever the artist wants to add. But the thing is, you can find platforms to sell you comic a bit easier than games. And, let’s be honest, do you think that what we see in games are usually censored in comics? Look at this specifc example from Fatal Frame. Do you think this would be censored in, for example, a Constantine comic?

  • Bianca Ann Saracino

    I can’t believe I’m saying this but I trust NISA more with not censoring content then I do NoA =/ lol

  • 2501

    Why Nintendo? :(

  • glasssoldier

    1 800-255-3700 I called NOA customer service yesterday and complained about the game, both being digital only and the censorship. I urge anyone else inclined to do so and let your opinion be heard by the people making these decisions. Hilariously the woman i spoke to, while very nice, didnt even know what game i was talking about. what should be a major game releasing tomorrow and she wasnt even aware of its existence.

  • Brimfyre

    And you have blue haired Goku as your avatar.

  • Nintendo never ceases to amaze me… the wrong way. Heavy censor, DLC removed and replaced with useless Samus costumes, gameplay with gamepad only, guess i’m gonna save 50€ by not buying the game. At least, i need to thank them for that.

  • Same here. I’ve no reason to buy a Wii U.

  • djluke_1993

    Oh man insults on the Internet. You must be a tough one..
    Though unless you intend on buying the game I don’t see how that would affect you at all.

  • HoubleDelix

    Last time I checked, I thought they were supposed to make the games for the people who buy and play them…. Unless I’m wrong.

    I mean, c’mon. Why not ignore the game’s intended audience and cater to people who shouldn’t, or won’t even play the game? It’s genius!

  • Ryan Barrett

    Of course, this is all to avoid the one, single complaint letter from an equally God-fearing, puritanical, overprotective parent that wasn’t responsible enough to actually pay attention to the content that their children are getting access to.

  • Stilzkin

    B-but it’s supposed to be the americans who are prude..

  • Stilzkin

    le 4chan army is here

  • Valwin Mediaz

    leave

  • Phil F.

    yes i see you decided to join the thread, moot.

  • Phil F.

    No

  • Travis Touchdown

    She was underage at the time.

    People complaining about this are literally whining about an underage girl not showing enough skin.

  • Tromboner

    It’s rated M, Nintendo, come on. We’re adults; treat us like adults.

  • Titangamecube

    Next thing they’ll be complaining about rice balls being changed to sandwiches….Im not lying, that exact situation happened once. I almost had a stroke because of it.

  • Joel Leonheart

    I meant that it’s relatively easy to learn other language’s (Depending of course on the quality of the learning material’s/teacher’s)

    But as you stated fan’s really do far better at translating work’s than these so called “official” localization companies which is really sad :/

  • Badmojo7

    This just reaffirms my opinion that Nintendo is nothing but a kids platform.

  • rBeowulf

    Yeah, I don’t say this very often… but… Fuck you, Nintendo.

  • Softclocks

    Good point.

    Once it’s been published there’s rarely a subsequent censoring.

  • InkViper

    Thanks for the reply, however I do not see any relevance to your statement in regards to my post!

  • HoubleDelix

    I was simply making a remark about your comment on censorship. Games are for the people who play them… The “Gamers” you mentioned. The far left and the far right shouldn’t matter very much to the developers.

  • Sean Sharpe

    The existence of Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2 give Nintendo enough “hardcore” cred to override whatever shit they get from removing fan service moments from what was always second rate horror franchise.

    But hey. folks like their skin.

  • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

    It takes more than one game [Bayonetta 2] to override the kiddie-oriented image that the company has and insists on keeping with their outdated, somewhat illogical, rules on censhorship. The support they got from consumers shows this~.

  • InkViper

    Thank you for your clarification, it wasn’t particularly apparent that’s what you meant in your first post to me, but let me be specific, in regards to the left and right arms of the media having an effect on this corporate decision which led to the removal of the bikinis, the fact of the matter is I do in fact agree with you 100% that the far right and far left do not factor in on any decisions made by the development team, which I believe was KOEI TECMO and a team from NCL, but this is where the however comes into it, Nintendo of America the people responsible for this decision are not a developer, they are a marketing, PR and localization branch of Nintendo, with at least a small amount of autonomy, and they will be concerned with what the press have to say, and considering that there isn’t a lot of real estate for the middle ground between the left and the right of the media anymore, they didn’t exactly have a lot of ground to maneuver on, because of this I understand why the decision was made, but I completely disagree with it, nothing should’ve been cut from the game at all, but it was on this knowledge that I have advocated that people should appeal to NOA for the return of the missing content, not simply for people to do nothing and to tell Nintendo as a whole to take a running jump.

  • Mewshuji

    Am I the only one confused as to how anything is lost here?
    Why is changing the bikini to something else somehow something that ruins the whole game? Or the story? It doesn’t make sense to me.

  • Mewshuji

    Also has anyone considered it’s because the character is a little girl and not an adult? Just an idea. I don’t think Nintendo wants to promote the sexualization of the youth.

  • Annie

    Meh, that cutscene was less than one minute long and it’s not like gravure idols only take photos in bikinis, they mostly appear wearing bikinis but they also take photos using regular japanese street fashion so the context is the same, just less skin because underage girls can’t pose for erotic magazines and stuff over here unlike Japan where girls as young as 14 years old can be gravure models

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  • Sean Sharpe

    Here’s the thing. Nintendo has tried to shake the kiddie image for years.

    GameCube? You could pretty much play the entire Resident Evil series on in, including two games that for the longest time were Nintendo exclusive. It also had Eternal Darkness, Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes and was the only console to have an uncensored version of BMX XXX.

    The Wii? It had what is arguably the best port of Resident Evil 4, Madworld, the No More Hero games…

    Still, the systems are “kiddie” since most of Nintendo’s first party games are colorful and family friendly and so-called “hardcore gamers” seem worried about their image.

    The fact that you just dismissed Wonderful 101 is pretty telling. That game is one of the most genuinely “hardcore” games to come out on any platform in a long time. A game with an actual learning curve, a high skill ceiling, and a good difficulty even on “normal” settings? That’s more “hardcore” than the vast majority of M-rated games released in recent years.

  • Leftoverlunch

    Lol I got the 32GB day 1 I thought it was a 1 GB patch XP I stand corrected

  • TWE

    Sounds like the average tumblrina’s wet dream.

  • Aentik Sparda Ten-no

    and this is why this jewel of a game shouldnt be downloadable and just physical , being a disc you can buy in a store not all can dowload it nor the sellers cant let you take it if u are underage!!! well done american workers you have to release a retail edition!!!!!!! the demo is amazing and the game really needs to stay here and more follow up titles and a Fatal frame HD collection for lots of system starting by Nintendo first up ofc, i just say damn kids ¬¬ not really useful in this case at all.

  • Aentik Sparda Ten-no

    indeed im going out on a limb here but i think they are triying to get the game to All audiences possible = more income but still kids cant buy so much more games as persons who works and invest not just play but still not sure why they pull things like that also this awesome game they prefered to overshadow fatal frame for the damn Star fox i love it as well but its nowhere compared to fatal frame so does Fast racing neo in their previous ND they left it like a rotten thing and what ive seen its one of the best racing futuristic games of this year and it sonly a digital release!! i do will buy my hdd but gee they really need to either force devs to make retail editions or something, i dont see this wokring really well starting by FF.

  • InfectedAI

    I’m going to have to massively disagree with you. Learning a language is not an easy feat at all. It’s incredibly difficult for most people. Especially a language like Japanese.

  • InfectedAI

    This isn’t something new though. This has been on going for years.

  • Joel Leonheart

    Relatively I used relatively “easy” the writing might be very hard to learn (take even year’s) & maybe for some the speech might be very hard aswell

    But that’s enough for that okay??

  • Optimist

    “WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE FAKE CHILDREN!!”
    Fuck off, this is about censorship, if the costumes weren’t apart of the original content none us us would be complaining.

  • alex9234

    Because the game would have gotten an Adults Only rating if they didn’t take out the costumes. And don’t play that “Nintendo is being greedy” card. Sony and Microsoft make them look like Mother Teresa by comparison. So you don’t care if this game gets banned from certain countries, Nintendo getting potentially SUED, and the game getting an AO rating if they kept the costumes in?

  • Lorne

    I’m not going to say much, since I’m not too knowledgeable about cultures outside of the U.S., but I fail to see how those costumes would warrant an Adults Only rating. Witcher 3 and Dragon Age Inquisition feature sex scenes in their games and have M ratings. And please don’t put words in my mouth by saying that I think Nintendo is being greedy or that I want the game banned from other countries. If there is an issue with other countries, than change the game accordingly for them.

  • alex9234

    Because the character is 14 years old, and her wearing those costumes would be considered taboo in another culture. Also, it’s because the US is very sue happy and there’s always that risk of Nintendo getting sued if they kept the costumes in -especially when you consider that they’re a company that rarely publishes mature titles. Just because one form of culture is acceptable in one country, doesn’t mean it’s acceptable in another.

    I apologize if I did try to put words in your mouth, but I’m just sick and tired of all the double standards being thrown at Nintendo and their fans these days, and how people are comparing this “incident” to how China and North Korea handle censorship – which is debatable at best and stupid at worst. It’s a real headache.

  • dsadsada

    Never stopped Onechanbara. That one has an actual 14 year old wearing nothing but a banana covering her crotch and its been sold just fine in the US and Europe.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    LOL We actually agree on something. Guess there’s a first for everything.

    And yes. Yes they are.

  • TsukuyomiMagi99

    LOL Your name and “shafting”

  • leingod

    This is bullshit. As much as I love Fatal Frame as a series, I can’t support stupid decisions like these. It’s not about the bikinis themselves, it’s about NOA tampering and censoring material at their leisure.

  • Eden Sama

    aww shit again more censor? As if Xenoblade chronicles X wasn’t censored enough /sigh fuck life fuck me its our prerogative to play the games how it was created unedited.

  • Eden Sama

    Its despicable these days to get any censoring in any game, movie or TV series of any kind on the market. It’s ridiculous in fact. They censored a bust breast slider in a cool rpg xenoblade chronicles X that would make the female characters look cooler in all outfits that are skin tight, than they would with medium size jugs lol, fucking hell it doesn’t matter what we say Nintendo will never change, even if we approach and talk to them with mature calm manor, they have to understand we are human and humans need to fap to stay sane lol let them die then if that’s what they want.

  • Dimitri Theodosakis

    Resident Evil Series became Grade D Horror Once Resident Evil 4 Released.
    Fatal Frame Series is Grade B Horror.