Niche Gamer is Effectively Blacklisted from XSEED Games by One PR


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So file this one under crazy, as I definitely can’t understand the reasoning behind it. Niche Gamer is now effectively blacklisted from communicating/dealing with XSEED Games, the studio that localizes Senran Kagura, Falcom RPGs, and so on.

When I pressed both XSEED and One PR, the PR firm that handles XSEED Games, I got the following email from a One PR representative:

[…] On behalf of our client, XSEED Games, I regret to inform you that we are not able to service your requests – and you have been removed from their mailing list. Please do not attempt to communicate with anyone from XSEED Games directly for PR matters, as we serve as their agency of record for all media relations.

This is the culmination of months of phone calls and emails going unanswered. The only discernible explanation I received in the reply was that One PR was migrating servers. I don’t buy this as I’ve sent many emails and made several phone calls, only to have them fall on blind eyes or deaf ears.

So what gives? My correspondences have always been polite and respectful, and yet I got nothing from them; we have stopped receiving review copies from them as well. I want to be clear here: this is not about review copies. This is about us being able to communicate with a developer whose games make up a good portion of our coverage and fanbase.

If we’re unable to get their press releases, we’re at a disadvantage for covering them quickly and accurately, as not all of the press releases are made public. This means we’re forced to rely on other sources for XSEED Games coverage, while other outlets, for reasons unbeknown to me, are considered okay to be in communication with the publisher.

XSEED Games have consistently put out great releases (check out our backlog of reviews) and we respect them as a studio—this seems to be One PR blacklisting us. I don’t have an explanation. When I pressed a developer that I know at XSEED Games, he refused to comment on the situation, so this is seemingly out of their hands.

The strangest thing in this ordeal is that we were given the okay with Koei Tecmo, another developer that One PR manages. I want to reiterate that while review copies of games certainly help us cover costs, they are by no means the main reason for me developing press contacts. As you all know, there are lots of games and there are lots of developers.

My goal was to get as many developers, publishers, and PR companies sending me press releases as possible. Review copies were secondary, if that, and always considered a perk that we here at Niche Gamer don’t take for granted. This would, in turn, help me greatly in keeping on top of news across various developers, publishers, and so on.

I also want to make it clear that this is not GamerGate-related. “Rest assured we don’t consider #GamerGate into our PR planning for reviews,” another One PR representative said to me via email. This followed an email where I asked why Niche Gamer didn’t get a review copy of Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus, despite our extensive coverage of the game. Perhaps things changed?

Lastly, I want to let you all know that because of this, we’ll no longer be able to review XSEED-published games prior to release. We will, however, purchase review copies with either advertising revenue or Patreon money, which we’ll disclose. While this is the first time it seems we’re blacklisted by someone, it’s probably not the last.

Ultimately, I want us to eventually be able to purchase every game that we review, to remove any lingering concerns of ethics with receiving free review copies, but for now we unfortunately can’t afford that. Keep supporting us, we’ll keep doing our thing, regardless of whether developers, publishers, and or PR companies want to talk with us. We’ve always existed here for you, the reader, the gamer, the consumer, first and foremost—not the other way around.

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  • Sergio Nacher Fernández

    Wow, dick move!

    I think I’m no longer going to support XSEED. It was nice while it lasted, but if you’re going to be like this, blacklisting journalists that try to put their own bit of work to solve the issue of ethics in gaming journalism, then goodbye, you will not be missed by me.

  • Macavity

    Methinks something is INCREDIBLY fishy here, and the smell is wafting over from OnePR/XSEED.

  • An Honest Opinion

    This is really a shame man. It doesn’t make sense for this to happen for no discernible reason.

    If this is the company you’re talking about, it does appear that they’re working on things behind the scenes somehow:

    http://onepr-management.com/#/id/i8351936

    Still, that sucks man. I hope this is a rare instance and not the beginning of something else. You and your team do solid work.

  • Game Guy

    yeah jus blacklist the only people giving you good press. fuck you OnePr

  • HashibaIsen

    That is not very nice of them.
    Then again, I’m willing to wait for the good stuff.

  • Em

    Do OnePR think it’s a good idea to limit a portion of consumers off for some reason? Like, what the fuck? XSEED isn’t at fault here so I’m not going to stop buying from them but then again how the fuck am I when I don’t know what they’re planning since I can’t read about it on a website that reports on this stuff? What the hell are they thinking?

  • Kiujazi

    Well once you guys make it big then just think about all the copies they’ll be wanting to send. You can just remind them of this. Still though, that sucks to hear and if anything, it’s a bit confusing as to why the ‘PR’ agency black listed you so suddenly instead of trying to talk it out. I mean, what several times your requests have been flat out ignored only for this to be the outcome, Something stinks here.

  • poofin

    Ocean Marketing renamed itself One PR, eh?

  • http://artificialskies.wordpress.com/ Jay Embee

    That just makes no sense. Why would they do that to a gaming news site that’s specifically meant for niche games like the ones XSEED puts out? It seems like a bullet in the foot they don’t need, so to be honest, it’s more likely that something’s fishy right now with One PR regarding Niche Gamer and they chose to blacklist Niche Gamer for whatever reason. I know you said it’s not #GamerGate-related, but I can’t think of anything else it could be, not unless some people at One PR has a thing against other people on Niche Gamer.

  • Domhnall

    It’s not XSEED here, it’s One PR, the public relations company that XSEED uses. I’m not really familiar with the set-up here, but my assumption is that XSEED tells One PR that they have a new game coming out and One PR sends that press release to a list of companies that One PR has on a mailing list. From the sounds of how Brandon reported on this, XSEED isn’t at fault here (beyond using a PR company that would blacklist a new site), it’s the fault of One PR.
    So…I don’t think it would help to stop buying XSEED games. However, you might want to consider getting in touch with XSEED’s customer service department and complaining about this.

  • 33

    “I want us to eventually be able to purchase every game that we review,
    to remove any lingering concerns of ethics with receiving free review
    copies”
    I think this is a bit much. There’s nothing wrong with review copies as long as it’s disclosed. It means you get the games early to review them and the audience isn’t left waiting for you to play a full-length game after it’s released and everybody else has put out reviews and videos.

  • An Honest Opinion

    Another reviewer complained about this on Twitter. I’ll leave his name out of it since he’s got his account set to private, but I know the guy and he’s not someone who deserves to be blacklisted. Don’t know Brandon but he doesn’t seem like someone who deserves it either. I wonder who else is having problems with One PR.

  • Macavity

    This assumes that such complaints aren’t routed to OnePR as well (which the article seems to imply happens).

    Still, it’s worth a shot.

  • Sergio Nacher Fernández

    I guess it’s worth giving it a try.

  • Macavity

    They wwebsite ere on the internet, etc etc and so forth.

  • http://www.esterior.net/ Endless History

    It depends on the route you take for contact, I think. I don’t get PR emails from XSEED, but I do reach out directly for things as I need to for my website and usually speak to people directly with them.

  • Em

    http://www.oneprstudio.com/contact.html

    OnePR’s contact for anyone wishing to put in a word.

  • http://thewiredfishnetwork.com/ Steven T.

    Why is it always San Francisco!?

  • ChazDragoon

    This doesn’t make sense. No sane company, PR or Otherwise, BLACKLISTS another company they’ve had a sterling relationship with…and while they say it’s not #GamerGate related…I can’t help but think it is in some fashion.

    But then, taking into account Koei-Tecmo is given the OK to deal with you…yet XSEED isnt? I dunno, that just smells off to me.

    And why wasnt the XSEED contact allowed to discuss what’s going on with this? If it’s a OnePR issue, then wouldn’t that alleviate them the burden of whether they can say anything on it? Did XSEED change any key positions on their staff recently..?

    I dunno, I’m getting real bad vibes around this…something is up and it ain’t good.

  • João Carlos Honório Pedro

    This is entirely bizarre and that’s about as much as it’s possible to say without One PR actually elaborating on why they’re blacklisting you.

  • Reggie Anderson

    So, correct me if I’m mistaking something here but in your correspondence with them was there any mention of GamerGate from either yourself or the P.R. agency?

    I would like to know as I feel it would help flesh out the story that’s playing out here a little better. It would also help with the research I’ve been doing trying to keep track of this whole scandal.

  • pixel

    wtf

  • DoombotBL

    PR companies I tell ya, they’re full of it.

  • inquisitormcsagington

    One PR-based in San Francisco.
    Not #GG related…uh-huh

    I sure as shit won’t buy any XSeed games-maybe a hit in the wallet will make them question their PR team. I’ve told them as much via twitter

  • Domhnall
  • Sergio Nacher Fernández

    No idea! Maybe it is where all the conservatives take home?

  • secretarychan

    On the one hand, I follow XSEED everywhere. They have my undying love. It’s not such a huge blow, since I’m eager to see their news. But on the other I guess this means no cute interviews and such on my favorite gaymen website.

    Yeah this is really weird. I hope it gets sorted out, at least for a proper answer and not this vague ass BS that only serves to hurt their public image. Blacklisting your own die hard fans? That’s low.

    (also fuck disqus pls get something better)

  • Fenrir007

    Before the final solution, I urge you to let XSEED know about what is happening, preferably in an e-mail. It is what I intend to do.

    They could very well be unaware of this possibly rogue move by their PR agents. Don’t forget that XSEED catched a LOT of grief in the past by SJWs, so I really, really doubt they would be irked to work with nichegamer just because they are sympathetic to gamergate.

    The fact that the PR company is based in San Francisco also sends all kjinds of red flags.

  • Fenrir007

    Instead of OnePR, contact XSEED (or contact both).

  • poofin

    “If you guys don’t like the games media, why don’t you start your own?”

    Here’s your answer.

  • Keinart

    >Not GamerGate related

    Yeah, wait, I’m gonna listen and believe that, sure that’s not the reason

  • tccboss

    Seeing this makes me sad. I just hope they’ll come around soon if not oh well

  • HouseOfBrick

    Your reviews and support for the series were convincing me to buy Senran Kagura games, but after this I’m not so sure anymore. It’s not necessarily the dev’s fault, but if they continue to work with this One PR then I’ll know whether or not they need my business.

  • Fenrir007

    Be sure to let the devs know what is happening. Remember – you can’t act on what you don’t know.

  • Kraken

    you guys are one of the few places i go for gaming news since i washed my hands of those socjus sites. if xseed dosnt want to to give you the news i guess that means they dont want me to be informed and/or care about their games

  • BattlerArisato

    I don’t believe it’s something known by XSEED, I think this is something made by One PR and leaving XSEED aside, I can’t see a reason from them to do this.
    I guess we need to contact them, from twitter or via e-mail, at least I will do that =|

  • Gristle

    Completely baffling.

  • Noritama

    What the hell? I’m going to email Xseed. I encourage you all to do this as well. Without NG I wouldn’t of given a second look their titles.

  • Ninjagai

    I guess it’s not XSeed’s fault. I’m still going to buy the new Senran Kagura game. Blame the shitty PR company.

    It seems so strange, since I don’t think Senran Kagura would get much press anywhere else.

  • Tyrannikos

    What in the world? I’m emailing Tom at XSEED. He’s always a voice of reason who is loyal to those who show loyalty to XSEED. Hell, I’m going to email everyone I can get an email for to find out just what is going on. If XSEED understands the situation here, then maybe they can talk some sense into OnePR.
    Niche Gamer is THE site I go to for news about games like Senran Kagura. Anything else I hear on XSEED games is likely second-hand stuff and really late into the game. It’s important that this site receives press releases.

    Jesus, if anybody blacklisted Niche Gamer, I thought it would be NISA, and that’s just because we talk so much shit about them in NG’s comment section.

  • Obbliglol

    Gotta be honest – I don;t really buy XSEED games (nothing against ’em, just don’t make the types of game I fancy), but surely they rely on sites like this one for good word of mouth? It’s “niche” gamer, after all. Won’t sales decrease a little? And a PR company – not the actual dev – can call this shot? Suspicious…

  • Noritama

    Alright, Sent a email to them and I’m going to urge the people who ask me about these games *Quite a few where I live* to do the same since my information comes from you guys.

  • Bananalint

    I tweeted them. May also send an email as well.

  • guyman

    There’s a third crowd behind this, I’m sure. Someone pressed on them and as per usual they don’t even know who their consumers are around here so they just complied.

  • Some furf

    “Please do not attempt to communicate
    with anyone from XSEED Games directly for PR matters, as we serve as
    their agency of record for all media relations.”

    Wow, eat shit One PR. That could not have sounded any more totalitarian if they tried.

  • courier69

    Yes, keep in mind that this is technically a 3rd party from xseed themselves. The devs themselves come into forums and they seem very level headed. And I’m sure they what it means to come across random outrage from the whole “trap” fiasco.

    Just be wary.

  • guyman

    XSEED clearly knows about this since NG said they tried asking one of their employees who was acting dodgy about it. That means they knew something but weren’t allowed to say jack.

  • Badmojo7

    “One PR-based in San Francisco.” – SF? Oh, this is definitely GG related. Xseedneeds to be contacted to let them know that a PR company is using their personal political bias interfere with their job.

  • http://www.nichegamer.net Brandon Orselli

    No I totally agree with you. Having games early is what gives us more exposure, and gives you guys, the fans, the advantage to come to our site as we’ll have the first word. Ultimately I want to always think of you, the fans and gamers, with any decision I make with the site.

    I dunno what will come of this, but we will get other games before release as other PR folk and or PR firms see the value in our burgeoning audience.

  • Ncrdrg

    This makes no sense whatsoever. Why would you blacklist a site dedicated to covering niche genres that XSEED caters to?

    There’s got to be something else to it, this is just crazy.

  • Badmojo7

    Contact both, Xseed especially, onePR might just have one bad apple doing this. Either way, contact both.

  • Tyrannikos

    Email: [email protected]
    Twitter: @XSEEDGames

    Whether or not XSEED knows and/or endorses this happening, they need to know that many of us get our news about their games here. I urge everyone to politely email XSEED to let them know that we need Niche Gamer to be on the mailing list – we need Niche Gamer to be allowed to post information about XSEED’s games in a timely manner so we can all stay informed.

    Whether it’s XSEED or One PR or both companies that made this decision, we need to convince them that Niche Gamer is a reliable source of information for many of us. They have to know Niche Gamer handles press releases and game info with care. If we convince XSEED, they can convince One PR to overturn this decision, surely.

    If we want to see better video game journalism, we need to support the sites we love during times like these.

  • NorthernBarbarian

    Now, this is only my personal speculation but i think that that decision could be related to the fact that your site covers alot of ecchi/hentai and other _niche_ games. Those PR guys must have decided that they do not want to be accociated with the “dark side of the gaming undergound”. They probably want to get coverage only on the “serious and respected” portals like kotaku.

    You may think that such a thought process coming from the managers of the company working with the ecchi titles like Senran Kagura is absurd and impossible, but belive me from my personal expirience – this is quite possible. Corporate managers thought process becomes very strange and twisted, as soon as there is a bit of eros involved.

    Also – do not apologise for the review copies. Only a complite moron would blame a journalist for getting a free copy. This is your right as a journalist to recive them, otherwice how the hell we will get coverage on the freshly backed games?

  • daggot

    If this is how it has to be we I don’t have to give a fuck about onepr or the companies they represent, including xseed

    i’ll be importing me shit from now on

  • http://hanamuranodoka.tumblr.com Nodoka Hanamura

    That’s a bad move, One PR and XSEED. These guys shill their asses off for you (with ethics intact might i add) and you go and stab them in the back? have you not a single properly working brain cell in your collective bodies?

    …God people can be stupid when it comes to business decisions.

  • Fenrir007

    Calm down and think. The PR company could have done this behind XSEED’s backs. E-mail and confirm this directly with XSEED, they may not be aware they are being played.

  • Fenrir007

    XSEED is a very small company AFAIK, it doesn’t a board of corporate suits ruling over it to make stupid decisions like that.

  • Fenrir007

    We don’t know if XSEED knows about this. E-mail and confirm with THEM first before writing them off. The fact that the PR company is based in San Francisco should already set off red flags for you for foul play.

  • Tyrannikos

    This. As consumers (Consumers of both XSEED and Niche Gamer’s content), there is nobody better suited to try and fix this scenario than us. Request info from XSEED. Express your desire to see this decision reversed. Don’t just throw the chips in yet.

  • Mochaccino

    I’m dropping support of XSEED. I will NOT buy Senran Kagura or any title that comes from them.

  • Tyrannikos

    Please don’t do that! XSEED may not be behind this! Even if they are, for now we should just be trying to find out why this has happened. We should take the time to email XSEED looking for answers and expressing our desire to see this fixed. Politely contact XSEED to show that we support them and Niche Gamer working together!

    Email: [email protected]
    Twitter: @XSEEDGames

  • http://hanamuranodoka.tumblr.com Nodoka Hanamura

    Ah, San Francisco. Might as well let ADOLF HITLER run your PR company.

  • RoyalGreenTea

    Damnit I’m so dissapointed in that PR guy.

  • Tyrannikos
  • http://www.connorlinning.com ConnorORT

    > blacklisting the best video game site on the Web
    This is some shenanigans.

  • MaidKillua

    Doesnt really affect me, Falcom games rarely come West and I couldnt care less about Senran Kagura

  • Bananalint

    C’mon now, can you really go without playing Senran Kagura? I know I can’t.

  • sanic

    Alright folks here’s the game plan

    Contact:

    [email protected] -Asking if there’s anything you should know before contacting Xseed directly about blocking a site that positively advertises their content

    [email protected] -Asking if they are aware of why Niche Gamer is blocked from receiving press releases and if they’ll continue to use One PR considering Niche Gamer is one of the few that gives games like the senran series a fair chance (maybe mention there’s 2 articles on the series right now

    [email protected] – Same as prAxseed above

    Understand that at this point there’s is absolutely no reason to think Xseed made this choice, focus on understanding why One PR made this choice, don’t be jackasses.

  • Fenrir007

    Don’t worry, Brandon, we got this. We’ll ask them to set the record straight to us, their actual fans, and revert this.

    I could understand blacklisting you if your site was, to use current buzzwords, “toxic” like, I don’t know, Gawker, but all you do is celebrate gaming culture and provide great coverage to games that usually get the short end of the stick on the old guard of gaming media. Not only that, but your site is especially focused on exactly the kind of games XSEED localizes.

    I smell foul play from their SanFran based PR.

  • Satori

    This seems dumb because it should be obvious that xseed doesn’t target the “SJW” audience

  • Akumanoid

    XSeed gets blasted by press for “Trap.”
    XSeed PRrs up.
    PR blocks the only site on the web that caters to the people that didn’t give a shit about that.

    This would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad.

  • Fenrir007

    THIS. And please, contain yourselves. BE CIVIL, even to OnePR.

  • Carl B.

    I’m glad you posted this Brandon. Even if it burns bridges, it has to be said.

    Now, as someone who has reviewed XSEED games here, and will undoubtedly do so in the future, I won’t let my disappointment in them color any opinions I have about their games.

    Shame though. I always thought XSEED were cool folks. We even stuck up for them in the “Trap” controversy.

  • Canopus Walf

    Email sent. Let’s hope XSeed realizes what a stupid decision this would be. Despite One PR saying it’s not #GG related I’m somehow skeptical about that.

  • Dewey Defeats Truman

    Well that’s super lame. I’m not gonna stop buying Xseed games or anything (They’re pretty much the anti-NISA in my eyes, and that’s not just about how they handle localizations. They actually bring over stuff I’m interested in and don’t ruin it in the process) but I do hope they (or their PR guys, I’m not 100% sure what’s going on here) change their mind/get this sorted out.

  • Kaijuu

    GamerGate aside, the only other things that I think a PR agency might find unacceptable for a news media outlet to cover would be the eroge that Niche Gamer occasionally covers. Even though they are now age gated, that was not the case just a little while ago.

  • Dewey Defeats Truman

    “They probably want to get coverage only on the “serious and respected” portals like kotaku.”

    I know you put that in quotations for a reason but still, that’s rich.

  • Wolfe

    Well, this is still my primary gaming site, so I’m not going anywhere as a reader.

  • Zanard Bell

    Can XSEED intervene on this? Like, can we email them, too, apart from One PR?

    This is just really unfair, and while I don’t want to think this is issue is colored by GG, stranger things have happened in the warp.

  • Fenrir007

    Not only we can, we SHOULD. E-mailing XSEED is more important than the PR company.

  • realgamer07

    We got your back guys, you’re one of my few gaming sites, and thats not gonna stop now. Love U guys, keep doing your thing. <3

  • Fenrir007

    The plot thickens.

    Apparently Techraptor is not banned, which is weird because they have shitloads of very pro-GG articles all the time:

    https://twitter.com/Theswweet/status/561316149296513028

    Techraptor also covers VNs, so this is kind of baffling.

    It COULD be a misunderstanding in the end.

  • Fenrir007

    Techraptor also covers eroge and they still get keys from XSEED.

  • Tyrannikos

    To be frank, the PR company is nothing without their client’s business. Politely email XSEED to request information and to let them know that Niche Gamer is a very smart partner to work with in regards to niche games.

  • SeedzChick69

    Disappointing…

  • Ben (Broken)

    Seems counterproductive for X-SEED considering they’re a small niche company thus any site that caters to their kinds of games can only be good for them from an advertising perspective. X-SEED should invest in smarter PR.

  • Zizal

    One less customer if Xseed doesn’t do something also don’t fall under the pressure and don’t stop writing about about AO games or anything you want.

  • http://www.nichegamer.net Brandon Orselli

    To be fair – we are definitely more focused on the releases from XSEED than TR. I respect those guys, but it doesn’t make sense for them to lampoon us. I just don’t understand it.

  • Jim

    I’ve sent an email to Xseed, I am prepared to adjust future purchasing decisions if this isn’t adequately addressed.

  • Fenrir007

    Someone said on h8chan that it might be possible OnePR wants to sever its contract with XSEED, and is using nichegamer as the catalyst to prompt XSEED to initiate this (XSEED would consider this a dumb move and wish to no longer do business with them). Maybe they have to do it this way because they have ongoing campaigns and would need to pay a fine for jumping in the middle of it? I don’t know. Possibilities. Just throwing it out there.

  • JackDandy

    Huh. This seems odd.

  • 7-D Sensei

    Wrong move OnePR

  • Nonscpo

    Im not sure if beginning a boycott is a smart move, until Xseed is given a chance to perform their rebuttal. Im pissed off too simply on the principal of blacklisting, however there’s not enough information to really go on.

  • Joel Nova

    Easy solution.

    1. Hire a Japanese speaker.
    2. Get the games in Japanese from the Parent company, and then review them months before NA release.
    3. ???
    4. PROFIT.

  • Ncrdrg

    Email sent. Also let them know I intend to hold off on any purchase until this matter is clarified.

  • Alcatraz

    There has to be something or someone behind this. There is absolutely nothing to gain from putting Niche Gamer out of the loop.

  • Nonscpo

    I agree with Fenrir007 you need to let the devs know too, cause eventually the devs will have to speak to MARVELOUS. For some reason Im under the impression that as a publisher, MARVELOUS wont take bad PR well.

  • Landale

    They were always intended to be age gated. The first article or two that went up it was bugged and not actually occurring for everyone.

  • http://attackongaming.com/ Gaming Admiral

    This sucks peeps. We hope this goes well for you all.

    ~Attack On Gaming team.

  • wundermula

    Who are all these people?

  • Jack Ripper

    Man this is fucked up.

    Well you don’t need to make sense to be dicks I suppose.

  • DanTheMan

    Someone already mentioned this in the comment section but I’m going to repeat it for the sake of clarity – PLEASE be civil with your emails.

    No swearing or negative implications of any sort or else your email will be blacklisted and it will reflect poorly on others, as well !!

  • Nonscpo

    To anybody who is advocating for a boycott or discussing about starting a boycott on Xseed games, I ask that you think things thru rationally. Like most of you Im upset about this turn of events as much as the rest of you. However as things stand right now there just isn’t enough information to go on at this time. I strongly advice that we follow Sanic’s example and focus on contacting and tweeting Xseed for answers:

    [email protected] -Asking if they are aware of why Niche Gamer is blocked from receiving press releases and if they’ll continue to use One PR considering Niche Gamer is one of the few that gives games like the senran series a fair chance (maybe mention there’s 2 articles on the series right now

    [email protected] – Same as prAxseed above

    I do not recommend or encourage anyone from contacting OnePR as it should be clear from Brandon’s example that these people mean business and could care less for our opinion. We should prioritize and focus our efforts on Xseed as we are ultimately there customers and they will have a greater interest in what we think or have to say.

  • Anon

    One PR has another, newish person covering XSEED, Not Jeane or Sonia. Maybe you nagged her too much.

  • OneOkRock

    I sympathize with you guys for being blacklisted, but you’re doing more than just presenting the facts. Hell, you don’t even know why you’re blacklisted. Judging by the comments, people are already villainizing XSEED and the PR company for it. Is that what you were hoping for? I would guess not, but that’s how the internet works. Good journalism doesn’t mean posting everything that goes through your head. Some things, no matter how unjust, are better left unsaid.

  • OneOkRock

    Nothing against you, but this is a fine example of what I don’t need to know. If you want to boycott certain games based purely on the company behind it, so be it. To me it makes no sense, and you haven’t even done it yet, let alone received a reply from them. Making your intentions known this early on makes you sound like you’re throwing a tantrum.

  • Tyrannikos

    I would hardly say XSEED is being made out to be a villain. Yeah, there are a few people letting their emotions get out of check, but many people here are mostly questioning the motives at play with this PR firm. It’s a confusing situation that is difficult for any side to handle.

    For all the people freaking out and immediately suggesting and “XSEED BOYCOTT!” there are many more people advocating polite inquiries into the whole ordeal. Many of us are trying to show XSEED that Niche Gamer belongs on their mailing list.

    Niche Gamer is a site we’ve come to love. The staff does a lot of work on our behalf. For how many articles they pump out compared to how many people are on staff, I’d say they’re working their asses off. They need our help now. I don’t see this article as an attempt to incite or misrepresent anyone. I think NG has displayed all the facts they know and are just making us aware of the situation. As Brandon said, XSEED comprises a large portion of their news. It’s not a poor assumption that many readers come here for XSEED related news. Rather than let this go quietly, we’ve been informed that as it stands, there will be no more XSEED news on NG. It’s us, the NG fans that have taken it upon ourselves to find out what is happening and what we can do to fix it.

    We need to help NG maintain a healthy, respectful relationship with XSEED.

  • dsadsada

    This isn’t the kind of news I wanted to wake up to. One my favorite gaming news sites being unable to contact one my favorite localization companies? That’s stupid. What’s more, this site is one of the few that gives them fair and almost entirely positive coverage.

    The hell is OnePR thinking by doing this? I don’t want to blame XSeed either but did they really agree to this? Hopefully we can find out the whys at some point, sooner better than later.

  • Tyrannikos

    Unfortunately, we’re unsure of who exactly made the decision. All we can do is be polite and ask what’s up. Hopefully XSEED or One PR will have details soon.

  • OneOkRock

    Did you see what XSEED localizing the next HM game turned into? Despite what you believe, there are plenty of people who are content with fabricating drama that isn’t there. My point is that this article didn’t need to be published now, when they’re just as confused as you. Since the staff seems to be contacting XSEED directly without regard for the middleman now, the professional thing would have been to wait for an official response from them first.

  • Jim

    I haven’t acted on any of it, I sent an email but if I don’t receive any type of reply and simply get shrugged off I am prepared to make the best possible decisions for myself that I feel comfortable with. I haven’t started any boycott and certainly not advocating for anyone to join me. If they pretend this never happened and just carry on I will certainly be more inclined to not purchase future titles. If they address my concerns in the email I will probably be content. If you are worried about seeing commentary that falls into something you don’t want to hear maybe an internet comment section isn’t for you.

  • d0x360

    Saying its out of the developers hands is incredibly disingenuous. PR companies work for the developer or publisher. Period. If PR cuts you off its with agreement from the developer. So xseed cut you off.

    Also to say it has nothing to do with GG is probably false as it would appear to be the only reason they would have to do this.

    Sometimes being too civil is harmful. Playing the nice guy while they tell you to piss off will get you nowhere. You have to call them out, which you did in the article but you sugar coated it with the ass kissing.

  • Nonscpo

    I disagree, while its true that it isn’t business smart for Brandon and company to publicize this, the fact remains that only public pressure will get Xseed to even comment on this. Plus it doesn’t bode well for their future as a publisher if they are partnered with a bad PR company that is distancing them from their audience.

  • Dancouga
  • Koroma

    Xseed is one of my fav companies, this is quite shocking.

  • d0x360

    Bad idea. Flooding them with emails from users will probably piss them off more than help this site. You would have been better off starting a petition then personally sending it to them.

    Put yourself in their shoes. They are mad for a reason. If you were them and you suddenly got a ton of emails from users asking a question they absolutely will not answer would you be happy?

  • Fenrir007

    The frirst thing you should do is to find out the truth, and you don’t do that by screaming like a madmen over people.

    Reach out first. Ask politely. Based on the answer, you choose how to act.

  • Fenrir007

    I also disagree, as this is a good opportunity to show every other dev that might wish to make business with this PR firm how they work, and that includes how they clarify this “mistake” and how quickly if that is the case.

  • Fenrir007

    Every user has the right to individually e-mail them with their concerns. If they don’t wanna answer them all, they can simply send a copy-pasted e-mail to everyone pointing them towards an official statement made on the issue.

  • Meittimies

    Theres plenty of gaming magazines out there who are still very much alive and well, even after they get released monthly and have no hope of covering games immediatly. Now when you also take a look at Totalbiscuit’s WTF-videos, when they come out does not affect the view count at all. People are willing to wait to hear his opinion about it.

    So just keep producing quality content and reviews and you should be good. Youtube and Twitch both have already won the competition with preview coverage anyway, since people can see actual footage of the game being played rather than reading about it.

    Its a shame you wont probably book many interviews anymore though.

  • OneOkRock

    That’s purely an assumption, no? XSEED seems like a pretty cool company, and I have a hard time buying that they’d ignore it because there wasn’t enough public pressure. As far as I’m concerned, adding the public pressure this early on isn’t a smart move because it shows the staff here doesn’t trust XSEED to correct whatever has gone wrong without making it known to the internet first. I stand by the fact that it’s unprofessional.

  • I P

    he specifically stated that there’s no issues with another company – Tecmo Koei – that’s represented by One PR.

    this issue is coming from someone at XSEED itself.

  • Wonderkarp

    my reaction to this is the crying anime picture up top

  • Nonscpo

    So there are currently two threads on this issue over at Marvelous USA, in case anybody wants to chime in:

    http://forum.marvelous-usa.com/index.php?showtopic=28014&pid=879724&st=0&#entry879724

    http://forum.marvelous-usa.com/index.php?showtopic=28013

  • ReaperX30

    Really sad how things turned out. Really weird considering you’re the only site where I’ve seen coverage about most XSEED games. I hope things will be resolved soon.

  • WTF Magazine

    What the fuck is this?
    This stinks to high heaven
    I don’t like this situation one bit

  • Tyrannikos

    I don’t buy into the thought that the consumer needs to tiptoe around the person who wants the consumer’s money. If a lot of people email XSEED/One PR, I think that is the consumer showing genuine interest in their product.

    if they get angry from a ton of polite emails expressing concern about their product, then they would have some very dire issues in need of addressing.

  • Game Guy

    I certainly hope this is only like when Hatred was taken off of steam greenlight and it’s just some ass that doesnt represent the company abusing his power

  • C G Saturation

    I guess XSEED wasn’t satisfied with the ridiculous boycotting of Akiba’s Trip and wanted to try their own hand at alienating fans and consumers.

  • Eduardo Pereira

    Don’t worry friend.

    No matter how harder anyone makes your job, keep doing the right thing and you will build a audience that is here not because you are the first site with a review out the window, but because we trust you.

  • Tyrannikos

    Maybe you’re right. I really can’t tell. The “damage” is done though and the consumers have the right to show concern over the issue.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    I don’t understand this. We need to get through to Tom, dude’s PR, community and translation magnificence at XSEED. He’s an open book. I’m sure he’d be able to explain this to us.

    We’ll stick with you guys either way, and we appreciate you telling us this isn’t GamerGate related. We’re wary of that but we’ll trust it unless other info comes to light.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    We know XSEED is neutral on the GG thing so I doubt it’s to do with them anyway.

  • Gyr0Man

    This is kinda a dick move. I actually want to play Senran because I heard about it from here, or at least saw a lot of coverage here that made me interested. So what the fug? :(

  • Zizal

    I’m sure most xseed audience don’t care or didn’t boycott and if someone didn’t buy the game that because they didn’t want the game in first place also we don’t know the sales number for the game and we can’t know if the game successful or not unless Xseed makes a statement about it.

  • heero01

    I like this site a lot but even if i didn’t they seem to give a fair shake .Would XSeed prefer the kotaku dragon crown approach where the game is taken apart the creator insulted just because the game doesn’t fit their narrative. The best a company can ask is a fair shake this site does it to blacklist them seems so ass backwards .

  • Zizal

    We need to hear Xseed’s part of the story before we judge. The have a good worker called Tom and he is anti-censorship and let’s hope that he will comment soon to stop all this drama.

  • Obbliglol

    It’s so strange. This site would review the game properly, not give it a 3/10 and call it “japanese tat” (I can almost see the EG review now…). This literally has no positives, I can’t think of one at all. XSEED lose out in the end, so do we.

  • Thanatos2k

    This is bizarre. XSeed can ill afford to cut off sites that provide the crucial coverage they need to niche markets.

    And not even telling you the reason? Pathetically unprofessional.

  • Barret Somerville

    Brandon Orselli, you along with the editors and journalist on your site are truly based. I hope that this XSEED thing gets sorted out, keep doing what you do.

  • Tromboner

    This is completely unacceptable behavior. Just when I thought I had found a permanent home for my niche title news coverage, too.

  • Tyrannikos

    This can still be your permanent home. You clearly care about Niche Gamer like the rest of us, so struggle to make it a stable place that has healthy relationships with niche companies.

    Politely express to XSEED that you are confused why this is happening and that you’d like Niche Gamer to be included on their mailing list. It only takes a minute: [email protected]

  • Tromboner

    I’m sending them an email right now. I’ll definitely stay on NicheGamer for the forseeable future, it just hurts to see one of my favorite sites being blacklisted from covering titles from one of my favorite publishers.

  • Mr0303

    As someone mentioned above the PR company is based in San Fransisco and we all know what that means.

  • MRAlias

    I’d like to politely disagree Niche Gamer. Blacklisting is a Gamergate matter. Whether anyone likes it or not.

  • Javier Vega

    That sucks.

  • Kitsunetsuki

    One PR is San Fran based and it’s founder has “causes she cares about” as “Civil Rights and Social Action” on her linkedin. Haha.

  • Kitsunetsuki

    Does xseed even want western exposure? Maybe they are trying to amputate the limb with the socjus infection before it kills the entire host?

  • http://www.gamerslive.fr/ Akuma

    This is weird. The only reason for blackilisting is writing bad reviews about games from the publisher, especially when they expect lot of money from them. (while knowing they’re basically not very good)
    Xseed has always been good, their CM’s even replay on twitter, etc… Not really nice hearing that :(

  • landlock

    You must have at least the slightest idea what my have made this happen?

  • Zombie_Barioth

    It must be an issue specifically with XSEED, either a mistake that nobody notices and they’re assuming its legit, or somebody somewhere has a problem with something Niche Gamer said or did. I can’t imagine what though. As for the XSEED contact, One PR probably advised them not to discuss it, whatever it is.

    I can’t help but wonder if it wasn’t somebody on the inside who’s against #Ggamergate or something, except XSEED is one of the companies who’s games are being blasted for “ruining the industry”.

    I don’t know what, but something’s fishy.

  • Tabitha Dickerson

    Also, they were giving positive coverage of XSEED games. This is crap.

  • Phelan

    Game companies don’t like people asking questions… even more when it is hard to answear those.

    Well… but that’s nothing compared to how they hate when people point out things they are doing wrong.

    (banned from Marvelous Europe)

  • Max Headroom

    “Now, as someone who has reviewed XSEED games here, and will undoubtedly do so in the future, I won’t let my disappointment in them color any opinions I have about their games.”

    That’s fucking stupid, and you know it.

    This is more important than your fanboyism, Carl B.

  • Max Headroom

    Yes, XSEED is very much at fault, here.

    Please stop pretending otherwise, to nourish your fanboyism.

  • Max Headroom

    “It’s not XSEED here, it’s One PR, the public relations company that XSEED uses.”

    No.

  • Max Headroom

    “If you want to boycott certain games based purely on the company behind it, so be it.”

    You must be fucking joking.

    What better reason to boycott a game *is* there, than to get at the developer behind it?

  • Max Headroom

    “I guess it’s not XSeed’s fault. I’m still going to buy the new Senran Kagura game. Blame the shitty PR company.”

    Wow.

    Well; whatever strokes your dysfunctional fanboyism, I guess.

  • Max Headroom

    That says a lot, right there. SJW cunt.

  • Siveon

    Opposite, I think. Mostly lefties, or so I’ve heard.

  • raven772

    I just sent an email as well. I like this site. I hope it can keep as wide and up to date coverage as possible on all the games we enjoy.

  • MrAndrewJ

    I’m going to continue supporting NicheGamer. This is really my first gaming news stop these days.
    Assuming I do write to XSeed, it would be just to drop a positive line about both their company and NicheGamer.
    There is too much unknown to get angry.

  • Fenrir7

    If anyone should be blacklisted by Xseed it’s the ‘tards at kotaku – they have done nothing but shit on the Senran Kagura series. Meanwhile, NG does nothing but praise it. What gives?

  • buddyluv324

    I hope no one is freaking out too much over this. We still havent heard the other side from either XSeed or the OnePR as to their reason behind this. Its too early to quickly jump the gun. Let’s just hope this isnt GG related with the reason behind the blacklisting.

  • http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/ Billy

    I’m totally late to the part here, but you can always sign up with GamesPress.com and still gain access to XSEED’s press releases. Not ideal, but it’s better than being late to the party.

  • jobo

    That’s a great idea Xseed, cutting yourselves off from a gaming site that appeals directly to fans of your games.

    Is it really that hard for game companies of any sort to not be dicks to their fanbase?

  • OneOkRock

    This is exactly what I was afraid would happen. Did you even read the article? XSEED has nothing to do with this, there’s a middleman involved in the communication between Niche Gamer and XSEED called One PR, and they’re the ones who blacklisted Niche Gamer for reasons unknown. One PR MAY be the dicks, or maybe they had a legitimate reason for doing so, but at this point in time, no one knows what’s going on, so let’s refrain from jumping to conclusions, kay?

  • Javier Vega

    You need to convince them your one of many sites that give fair and balance coverage of Japanese Games coming to the west.Even if your a small community you can build on your website it make a difference.Because market maybe small for XSeed they need websites like yours to cover niche games XSeed is making a huge mistake which would hurt them in the long run.

  • OneOkRock

    Once again, it’s not XSEED. With the information we have, it’s their PR company that did the blacklisting. Please read carefully before jumping to conclusions.

  • D2theP

    This isn’t right at all. Why single out Niche Gamer for blacklisting?

  • Bananalint

    Please don’t blame Xseed. I’m sure it’s not their fault. They just don’t seem to be the sort to do something like this. We just have to wait and see what they say.

  • GEhotpants101 .

    It must not be GG related…I mean, if techraptor is allowed, but nichegamer isn’t…I don’t get it…

  • Javier Vega

    This PR company job supposed help the company improve relations not screw over XSeed.They are paying you money to do your job so do this is terrible PR.

  • The_Last_Ride

    Jesus… So you try to start something new and you get rewarded by being blacklisted just by not being corrupt

  • King of Bros

    Ridiculous of XSeeD of all people to blacklist Nichegamer,they’re a fucking company which makes niche games

  • OneOkRock

    Once again, you’re jumping to conclusions. When the PR company speaks up, you can make your judgments then. We don’t know what’s happening, so you can’t go saying things like this company is trying to screw over that, because that may not be the case! This is just like when XSEED took over the Harvest Moon series and everyone jumped to conclusions saying there’s bad blood between XSEED and Marvelous, and Marvelous making their own Harvest Moon was a spiteful move. So much unnecessary drama and hate towards Marvelous boiled down to a complete misunderstanding as both companies were on good terms after all.

  • OneOkRock

    You do realize XSEED isn’t a company that develops games, right? They localize. People boycott games for all sorts of reasons. You may not like the content, in which case you’re trying to send a message to the developer. You may not like that the localization company censored things. The translation may be half-assed. And so on. Generalizing all those reasons as “to get at the developer behind it” is deceiving because you’re ignoring the *why”, as in what the developer did in the first place.

  • OneOkRock

    The comment section of an article is no different than a topic on a board. I make no distinction when being critical of people’s thoughts. If you make it public and you have the crazy expectation that everyone will just agree with you, then perhaps the internet comment section isn’t for you.

    The thing is, it’s the weekend. No one knows what’s going on. This article exists only to create unnecessary drama because of the lack of information, and comments like yours add fuel to the fire.

  • OneOkRock

    1. XSEED’s PR company, a completely separate entity, blacklisted Nichegamer, not XSEED themselves. We don’t know why, so there’s no reason to point fingers yet. The only playing the blame game are the ones believing in baseless speculation.

    2. XSEED doesn’t develop niche games, they localize them.

  • OneOkRock

    Nichegamer is p great overall, but the fact is there’s at least two instances (including this one) where one of the staff posted an article about something prematurely, and that could be justification enough for blacklisting, whether or not XSEED themselves agree. Nichegamer may be new and different, but in this instance especially, their inexperience shows.

  • The_Last_Ride

    There’s still no freaking reason to blacklist them…

  • Max Headroom

    Localizing, developing – whatever. Don’t buy their shit. If that harms the developer as well, perhaps that clues them in as to find someone else to localize for them.

  • greaterdivinity

    Oakland isn’t SF, yo.

  • Jim

    You are just too busy shouting from a soapbox to realize no one is nearly as “angry” and “unreasonable” as you have built in your mind.

  • OneOkRock

    Any reasonable person will agree that this article was published because the author took One PR’s actions personally. He didn’t have enough information and it was an unprofessional thing to do. A proper following wouldn’t be afraid to criticize the staff when they’ve done wrong, and all I see here are people blindly agreeing with Nichegamer, some not even reading the article and pointing the finger at XSEED. It’s so obvious that there are misunderstandings here. I don’t frequent this site too much, and if this comment section is
    indicative of the community this site has fostered, then I honestly don’t want anything to do with it.

    I don’t think I ever called anyone angry or unreasonable, but you seem to be bent on calling me out rather than trying to see the points I’m making. And if your next response is yet another jab or something that tries to paint me as delusional, don’t bother.

  • http://tildeathdowestart.blogspot.com Devoinz The Mighty

    This makes no sense what so ever….if any gaming website should have a relationship with XSeed, it’s Niche Gamer. Sounds like someone has an axe to grind. Hopefully someone with sense catches wind of this at the developer

  • Phasmatis75

    Revving up the emails.

  • Brian Hall

    Any news?

  • Leonardo Cornejo Bernal

    This is so suspicious. I would not be surprised if thee was someone from one of the corrupt gaming media or GJP tied to this.

  • Morningstar

    If it is someone against Gamergate and allied with SOS-JUS, then its possible that they are trying a double Knock-out; or at least make it harder for two of their enemies (Japanese games that do not give a flip about Political Correctness and Ethical behavior) to get the exposure they need to thrive.

    Divide and Conquer. It’s possible, but There might be less tinfoil-worthy reasons

  • Jim

    I’m not interested in circling the wagon on most of this again, I just don’t think we are making any real progress. I don’t usually think it’s productive to treat this comment section like a message board, they are different beasts and not particularly suitable for an endless back and forth. Anyways, I hear everything you are saying, but it may just be that we will both have to accept that we have disagreements on this topic. I thank you for your perspective and wish you the very best.

  • Zombie_Barioth

    Yea, thats a good point. The problem is though, is its just XSEED Niche Gamer is unableto communicate with, Koei Tecmo use PR One too an theres no prolem there. Plus there’s the dev who refused to even coment on it, so it must go pretty deep.

    Maybe outside pressure from the anti-Gamergate side? We’ve gotten support pulled, and they know we’re behind it, so it could be them returing the favor. What better way to ‘hurt’ us than get companies like XSEED to quite doing business with sites like this? All they’d have to do is convince them its bad for PR.

  • 2501

    I like Xseed so l am not going to witch-hunt them over this but it does seem odd that their PR decided to blacklist a site that caters to their demographic, you would think they would appreciate more western exposure.

    I do hope this is just some form of miss-communication or something.

  • Guest

    Consider that blacklisting is most effective when done covertly. If contacts are removed one-by-one for seemingly unrelated (yet weak) reasons over a long period of time, it is still possible that it could be a targeted blacklisting. I fear this is a subtle attempt to exclude, and eventually contain, NG by those who decry GG.

    Just because NG still has access to Koei-Tecmo, and TechRaptor has access to XSEED, does not absolve either OnePR or XSEED for walling off NG.

  • ScumbagSoldier

    It is in their best interests to answer, because we want answers. They are a PR company, after all.

  • d0x360

    Yes but a PR company doesn’t always technically deal with the public. Dont get hung up on the name.

  • ScumbagSoldier

    It’s their job to manage the image and impressions of the companies they represent.

    Again, it would be in their best interest.

    More to the point, there is a very clear consumer concern in regards to XSEED as a company, which is a big deal no matter who you are. I’m surprised there hasn’t been an official response already.

  • d0x360

    I understand what you are saying. I’m not going to argue with you. All I’ll say is I have 10 years experience working with gaming and media PR companies. Take my advice or leave it. Won’t effect me I couldnt care less about XSEED.

  • Donwel

    That is very unusual, especially from XSEED. I would suggest trying to get in touch with the guy who used to run their twitter (Tom I think his name was) a top geezer by all accounts and this is something that would piss him off to no end. I don’t think he’s one of their higher ups but he might at least be able to get you an answer.

  • a qt fedora

    Any news on this?